Re: [NTG-context] undefined guillemots

2005-04-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Steve Peter wrote:
On Apr 11, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Hi there!
AFAIK this should work:
\setuplanguage[de][
  leftquote=\guilsinglleft,
  rightquote=\guilsinglright,
  leftquotation=\guillemotleft,
  rightquotation=\guillemotright
]

setuplanguage[de][
  leftquote=\guilsingleleft,
  rightquote=\guilsingleright,
  leftquotation=\leftguillemot,
  rightquotation=\rightguillemot
]
However, this brings up a more general issue (for Hans, especially). The 
symbol is called a guillemet, a diminutive of Guillaume (Le Be), the 
typographer. It has nothing to do with the French word for word, mot. :-)
we already have (in enco-def):
\ifx\greeklamda\undefined \def\greeklamda{\greeklambda} \fi
\ifx\greekLamda\undefined \def\greekLamda{\greekLambda} \fi
and i've added:
\ifx\leftguillemet \undefined \def\leftguillemet {\leftguillemot } \fi
\ifx\rightguillemet\undefined \def\rightguillemet{\rightguillemot} \fi
Hans
-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
 tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context


[NTG-context] undefined guillemots

2005-04-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Hi there!
AFAIK this should work:
\setuplanguage[de][
  leftquote=\guilsinglleft,
  rightquote=\guilsinglright,
  leftquotation=\guillemotleft,
  rightquotation=\guillemotright
]
%\mainlanguage[de]
\language[de]
\setupencoding  [default=ec]
\quotation{Doppelte Anführungszeichen}
\quote{Einfache Anführungszeichen}
But none of the guillemots seems to be defined:
! Undefined control sequence.
\@@ladeleftquotation -\guillemotleft
\leftboundarycharacter #1#2-\languageparameter #1
  \nobreak \hskip 
\hspaceamo...
\dodosymbol ...bol \csname \??ss :#1:#2\endcsname
  \relax }\relax
\dosymbol ...fnosymbol \redosymbol \currentsymbol
  \fi \fi
to be read again
   \penalty
\dohandlequotation ...\strut \symbol [#1]\penalty
  \!!tenthousand \hskip 
\quo...
...
l.12 \quotation
   {Doppelte Anführungszeichen}
?
! Emergency stop.

What can I do?
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
http://contextgarden.net
___
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context


Re: [NTG-context] undefined guillemots

2005-04-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 11.04.2005 um 20:58 schrieb Steve Peter:
\setuplanguage[de][
  leftquote=\guilsinglleft,
  rightquote=\guilsinglright,
  leftquotation=\guillemotleft,
  rightquotation=\guillemotright
]
setuplanguage[de][
  leftquote=\guilsingleleft,
  rightquote=\guilsingleright,
  leftquotation=\leftguillemot,
  rightquotation=\rightguillemot
]
Thank you!
But I'm confused - why there are two different names (I tried the names 
from the encodings)?

However, this brings up a more general issue (for Hans, especially). 
The symbol is called a guillemet, a diminutive of Guillaume (Le Be), 
the typographer. It has nothing to do with the French word for word, 
mot. :-)
Ask Google ;-)
guillemet: 63200 hits
guillemot: 155 hits
guillemets: 353000
guillemots: 52900
You are right that e is correct, but o is very usual, perhaps since 
centuries...

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
http://contextgarden.net
___
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context


Re: [NTG-context] undefined guillemots

2005-04-11 Thread Steve Peter
On Apr 11, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
I guess you are right, but the Postscript Name for this glyph is
eg. guillemotleft, the unicode name (U+00AB) is 'Left Pointing
Guillemet', so guillemot is a slightly reasonable name for that glyph,
even if it is wrong ...
I realize I will never be able to stamp out the incorrect word, but 
ConTeXt should at least allow the correct word to be used and resolve 
into the incorrect one :-) That much I do think should be added. 
Nothing will break and everyone should be happy.

Steve
___
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context