Re: [NTG-context] Help with LaTeX - ConTeXt book typesetting
Ulrich Dirr wrote:
That's great. Can I combine this setup with another one for left even
right odd numbered pages? E.g.,
((PAGE 2))
King 1 The King
((PAGE 3))
1 The King Queen
So that I can combine, say \setupheadertexts[][\KHead Queen][\KHead King][]
-- which actually are just two different ornaments -- with your definition
above for 'something'?
sure, you can combine whatever you want
you can also set up different header/footers for margins and edged
and there are also top and bottom areas as well as a text area
My log file tells me
bodyfont : bodyfont 6.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 6.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 4.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 4.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 7.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 7.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 5.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 5.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 11.3pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 11.3pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 9.5pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 9.5pt is defined (can better be done global)
Given my definitions for HelveticaNeue -- and assuming they are alright --
where do I setup sizes, and especially in didot or big points?
you need to set up bodyfont environments for that (see font manual); the
complicating factor in fonts is that math needs to be set up.
Here:
\setupoutput [pdftex]
\input pdftexconfig
\enableregime[il1]
\mainlanguage[de]
\starttext
\showstruts
{\em Mhsal der Besten}
Woran arbeiten Sie? wurde Herr K. gefragt. Herr K. antwortete:
Ich habe viel Mhe, ich bereite meinen nchsten Irrtum vor. (B.
Brecht) Aber Hallo! \quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
\stoptext
hm, what do other german users experience/think?
(BTW I've already produced all expanded version with fontinst)
wait for the new pdftex (or grab a test versions soemwhere): it has auto
expansion included, and there i sno need any more to create the
instances yourself (doen within pdftex)!
If ConTeXt is using the new german spelling hyphenation rules then:
*108* If ss stands for , then it will be hyphenated s-s. E.g., Grs-se
(instead of Gr-e), heis-sen (instead of hei-en).
*109* The connection of consonants ch, ck, and sch, and also in foreign
words with ph, rh, sh, and th will not be hyphenated in between if they
stands for a single sound. E.g., B-cher, Zu-cker, ba-cken, Fla-sche,
Ma-che-te, Pro-phet, Myr-rhe, Ca-shew-nuss, ka-tho-lisch.
so .. what are the proposed changes to the german language specifics in enco-fde.tex?
Hans
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RE: [NTG-context] Help with LaTeX - ConTeXt book typesetting
Hans Hagen wrote:
(BTW I've already produced all expanded version with fontinst)
wait for the new pdftex (or grab a test versions soemwhere): it has auto
expansion included, and there i sno need any more to create the
instances yourself (doen within pdftex)!
Yes, I know. Of course this is an improvement. But I've already set it up
-- so why not use it?
Nevertheless it seems to me that there're several problems still. I'm using
now:
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-rc7.2-2.2
ConTeXt ver: 2004.8.15 fmt: 2004.9.12 int: english mes: english
Sometimes the hyphen is not protruded at all. BTW where do I define in
ConTeXt my font specific microtypographic values? In LaTeX I wrote
\input{protcode-helvetica}
\input{efcode-helvetica}
\pdfprotrudechars=2
\pdfadjustspacing=2
\def\setupfont{\setprotcode\font}
\def\setupEFfont{
\setprotcode\font
\resetefcode\font
\pdffontexpand\font 20 20 5}
...
If ConTeXt is using the new german spelling hyphenation rules then:
*108* If ss stands for , then it will be hyphenated s-s. E.g., Grs-se
(instead of Gr-e), heis-sen (instead of hei-en).
*109* The connection of consonants ch, ck, and sch, and also in foreign
words with ph, rh, sh, and th will not be hyphenated in between if they
stands for a single sound. E.g., B-cher, Zu-cker, ba-cken, Fla-sche,
Ma-che-te, Pro-phet, Myr-rhe, Ca-shew-nuss, ka-tho-lisch.
so .. what are the proposed changes to the german language specifics in
enco-fde.tex?
Mmh, I'm that familiar with ConTeXt ;-) Hopefully the patterns will do
most.
But of course
\installcompoundcharacter ck {\discretionary {k-}{k}{ck}}
should be changed to
\installcompoundcharacter ck {\discretionary {-}{ck}{ck}}
((ck should always stay as it is; maybe one even don't need this def
anymore))
Ulrich
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RE: [NTG-context] Help with LaTeX - ConTeXt book typesetting
Hi,
first, thank you very much for your help!
Hans Hagen wrote:
Ulrich Dirr wrote:
Hi,
I'm recently trying to get ConTeXt typesetting my books like with LaTeX
before (or better). But I can't solve some problems ... Maybe someone
can
assist me?
o How do I get the chapter number into the heading? I've tried
\setupheader[before=\viii,style=normal]
\setupheadertexts[chapter]
but this only puts the chapter title into the heading
\setupheadertexts[chapter][chapternumber]
of
\setupheadertexts[{\getmarking[chapternumber] --
\getmarking[chapter]}]
etc etc
o How can I get something similar to LaTeX?
\fancyhead[C]{%
{\sffamily\footnotesize
\leftmark
\pdef\next{\rightmark}%
\ifx\next\empty\else\ \textbullet\ \rightmark\fi}%}
which will put the chapter mark centered in the headings, and if there
is a sectionmark then a bullet sectionmark too.
something like: (setups are just a convenience)
\setupheadertexts [\setups{something}]
\startsetups something
\getmarking[chapter]
\doiftext{\getmarking[section]}{\enspace\symbol[1]\enspace}
\getmarking[section]
\stopsetups
That's great. Can I combine this setup with another one for left even
right odd numbered pages? E.g.,
((PAGE 2))
King 1 The King
((PAGE 3))
1 The King Queen
So that I can combine, say \setupheadertexts[][\KHead Queen][\KHead King][]
-- which actually are just two different ornaments -- with your definition
above for 'something'?
o How can I typeset the chapter title across both columns in a
two-column
setup?
hm
\chapter{xxx}
\startcolumns ... \stopcolumns
\chapter{yyy}
etc
Sorry I got confused; I was too much influenced by the LaTeX multicol
package where I have to say \begin{multicols}{2}[Spanning title] ...
o Is it possible to setup a project using only didot (or bp) point
measurements? How? Especially I want a interline space in dd or bp
which
is flexible like \setupinterlinespace[line=1.25\bodyfontsize] but uses
dd or bp.
\starttext
\input ward
\setupinterlinespace[line=4.25\dimexpr(\bodyfontfactor dd)]
\input ward
\stoptext
My log file tells me
bodyfont : bodyfont 6.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 6.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 4.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 4.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 7.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 7.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 5.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 5.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 11.3pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 11.3pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 9.5pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont : bodyfont 9.5pt is defined (can better be done global)
Given my definitions for HelveticaNeue -- and assuming they are alright --
where do I setup sizes, and especially in didot or big points?
o I've tried to setup the typographical correct quotation marks for
german in the file cont-sys.tex \setuplanguage
[de]
[leftquote=\rightsubguillemot,
leftquotation=\rightguillemot,
rightquote=\leftsubguillemot,
rightquotation=\leftguillemot]
When using it, e.g.,
\quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
and using
\showstruts
I got marks at strange places
|all right |there| we go|
Should this be corrected somewhere?
dunny, can you make a small test file (so that other german users can
test
along?)
Here:
\setupoutput [pdftex]
\input pdftexconfig
\enableregime[il1]
\mainlanguage[de]
\starttext
\showstruts
{\em Mhsal der Besten}
Woran arbeiten Sie? wurde Herr K. gefragt. Herr K. antwortete:
Ich habe viel Mhe, ich bereite meinen nchsten Irrtum vor. (B.
Brecht) Aber Hallo! \quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
\stoptext
o How do I get character protruding and font expansion? (I didn't find
the latter in the manual)
[...]
so, associate a handling (see hand-* files) with a font (before it's
used! else pdftex does ignore it)
but ... be prepared ... context is set up for the latest pdftex and
there are some bugs in hz an desp when used with protruding (thanh is
working on them and the previous code is used for testing)
you need a recent context in order to get the auto expansion done
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-rc4-2.1
ConTeXt ver: 2004.8.15 fmt: 2004.9.8
(BTW I've already produced all expanded version with fontinst)
But this really produces super ugly results! The expanded fonts are in the
pdf but the line breaking is horrible. Probably I need at least rc7 or the
standalone version of fptex of Sept,
Re: [NTG-context] Help with LaTeX - ConTeXt book typesetting
Ulrich Dirr wrote:
Hi,
I'm recently trying to get ConTeXt typesetting my books like with LaTeX
before (or better). But I can't solve some problems ... Maybe someone can
assist me?
o How do I get the chapter number into the heading? I've tried
\setupheader[before=\viii,style=normal]
\setupheadertexts[chapter]
but this only puts the chapter title into the heading
\setupheadertexts[chapter][chapternumber]
of
\setupheadertexts[{\getmarking[chapternumber] -- \getmarking[chapter]}]
etc etc
o How can I get something similar to LaTeX?
\fancyhead[C]{%
{\sffamily\footnotesize
\leftmark
\pdef\next{\rightmark}%
\ifx\next\empty\else\ \textbullet\ \rightmark\fi}%
}
which will put the chapter mark centered in the headings, and if there is
a
sectionmark then a bullet sectionmark too.
something like: (setups are just a convenience)
\setupheadertexts [\setups{something}]
\startsetups something
\getmarking[chapter]
\doiftext{\getmarking[section]}{\enspace\symbol[1]\enspace}
\getmarking[section]
\stopsetups
o How can I typeset the chapter title across both columns in a two-column
setup?
hm
\chapter{xxx}
\startcolumns ... \stopcolumns
\chapter{yyy}
etc
o How can I tell ConTeXt the distance between columns? Or should I define
only the columnwidth? How? My first defintion looks like
\setuplayout[width=358dd,lines=46,topspace=11mm,backspace=17mm,
\setupcolumns[distance=123pt]
margin=0cm,marking=on,location=middle,grid=yes,header=12bp,
headerdistance=18bp,footer=12bp,footerdistance=11mm]
o How can I tell ConTeXt to balance the last page? I've tried something
like
\definecolumnset[two][n=2,tolerance=tolerant,distance=12bp]
\setupcolumnset [two][balance=yes]
but this doesn't work.
ah, column sets ... see an earlier mail
o Is it possible to setup a project using only didot (or bp) point
measurements? How?
Especially I want a interline space in dd or bp which is flexible like
\setupinterlinespace[line=1.25\bodyfontsize] but uses dd or bp.
\starttext
\input ward
\setupinterlinespace[line=4.25\dimexpr(\bodyfontfactor dd)]
\input ward
\stoptext
o I've tried to setup the typographical correct quotation marks for german
in the file cont-sys.tex
\setuplanguage
[de]
[leftquote=\rightsubguillemot,
leftquotation=\rightguillemot,
rightquote=\leftsubguillemot,
rightquotation=\leftguillemot]
When using it, e.g.,
\quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
and using
\showstruts
I got marks at strange places
|all right |there| we go|
Should this be corrected somewhere?
dunny, can you make a small test file (so that other german users can
test along?)
o How do I get character protruding and font expansion? (I didn't find the
latter in the manual)
\starttext
\setuppapersize[A4][A4]
\setuplayout[height=middle,topspace=1cm,header=0pt,footer=0pt]
\showframe
\setupfonthandling [hz] [min=80,max=80,step=5]
\setupfontsynonym [Serif] [handling=quality]
\setupfontsynonym [SerifBold] [handling=quality]
\setupfontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [handling=quality]
\setupfontsynonym [SerifItalic] [handling=quality]
\setupfontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [handling=quality]
\setupfontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [handling=quality]
% \setupalign[normal,hanging,hz]
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
\noheaderandfooterlines
\startbuffer
\dostepwiserecurse{200}{150}{-5}
{\expanded{\setuplayout[width=\recurselevel pt]}
\subject{palatino: no hz, ragged right}
\setupalign[right,hanging,nohz] \input tufte \endgraf
\subject{palatino: hz, ragged right}
\setupalign[right,hanging,hz]
\input tufte \endgraf
\subject{palatino: no hz, aligned}
\setupalign[normal,hanging,nohz] \input tufte \endgraf
\subject{palatino: hz, aligned}
\setupalign[normal,hanging,hz] \input tufte\endgraf
\page}
\stopbuffer
\getbuffer \page
\setuplayout[width=middle]
\typebuffer \page
\stoptext
so, associate a handling (see hand-* files) with a font (before it's
used! else pdftex does ignore it)
but ... be prepared ... context is set up for the latest pdftex and
there are some bugs in hz an desp when used with protruding (thanh is
working on them and the previous code is used for testing)
you need a recent context in order to get the auto expansion done
o Does there exist some support for RCS? In LaTeX I've used
\RequirePackage[nofancy]{rcsinfo}
and then I put in the page area of the crop marks:
on top
'Art \ Satz \raise.5pt\hbox{\textbullet} Ulrich Dirr\hfill Seite
\thepage \the\count1\ von \numpages'
and on bottom
project specific info\hfill \rcsInfoFile\ Rev.\rcsInfoRevision\hfill
\the\day.\the\month.\the\year\ \printtime
How can I put these information on the page? Should I use something you
called 'Logo types' in the manual or something like layers?
if you can give me specs (and an example) of what you need .. probably
trivial to write
(there is some info mechanism where i then can hook it into)
