Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
2010/12/17 Alan BRASLAU : > Which readers: do you refer to computer programs or to humans? Programs. You'll hit implementation limits in Adobe Reader. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
2010/12/17 Taco Hoekwater : > pdf due to its internal limits (luatex will happily create 10GB pdfs). The code allows ca. 1TB; that should be enough for everyone (I hope I don't live to see the day that it isn't :). Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
On Friday 17 December 2010 10:49:27 Martin Schröder wrote: > And you'll get problems with pdfs with millions of objects (i.e. pages), as readers can't cope with them. Which readers: do you refer to computer programs or to humans? (This is what Herbert Simon calls bounded rationality.) Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
On 17-12-2010 10:44, Vedran Miletić wrote: How high is the limit now? Just curious, since I saw LuaTeX building _a paragraph_ lasting few hundred pages without problems (on the other hand, pdfTeX couldn't do it). I've done tests with tens of thousands of pages with mkiv with no problem so there must be something special going on now. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
On 12/17/2010 10:44 AM, Vedran Miletić wrote: How high is the limit now? There is nothing hardcoded anywhere, but I suspect that after a few million pages some limit somewhere will be reached eventually: either the harddisk gets full, or your pdf reader will be unable to open the pdf due to its internal limits (luatex will happily create 10GB pdfs). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
2010/12/17 Vedran Miletić : > How high is the limit now? Just curious, since I saw LuaTeX building _a > paragraph_ lasting few hundred pages without problems (on the other hand, > pdfTeX couldn't do it). Which limit? For the simple knuth case most likely the size of your harddisk is the limit (iff luatex can generate PDFs >4GB :). And you'll get problems with pdfs with millions of objects (i.e. pages), as readers can't cope with them. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
2010/12/17 Taco Hoekwater > On 12/17/2010 07:52 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Jonas Stein wrote: >> >>> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000 pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) It's easily reproducible with a simple \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \input knuth } >>> \starttext >> \dorecurse{5}{ >> \input knuth >> }\stoptext >> also fails after page [1619.1619]) with >> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=1254582]. >> > > That is mkii, right? (I am not interested in that) > > > PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of >> stack space)) >> >> I think that is a bug, or not? >>> >> yes, I think so. >> > > Yes it was a bug, fixed in the luatex source repository now. > How high is the limit now? Just curious, since I saw LuaTeX building _a paragraph_ lasting few hundred pages without problems (on the other hand, pdfTeX couldn't do it). Regards, Vedran Miletić ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
On 12/17/2010 07:52 AM, luigi scarso wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Jonas Stein wrote: Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000 pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) It's easily reproducible with a simple \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \input knuth } \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \input knuth }\stoptext also fails after page [1619.1619]) with ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=1254582]. That is mkii, right? (I am not interested in that) PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) I think that is a bug, or not? yes, I think so. Yes it was a bug, fixed in the luatex source repository now. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
On 16-12-2010 8:31, luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Marco Pessotto wrote: Hello there. Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000 pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) It's easily reproducible with a simple \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \input knuth } Confirmed \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \input knuth }\stoptext die with pages> flushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987 PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) its hard to figure out where it happens so probably taco has to run a variant with debugging on; maybe a core luatex function is not cleaning up the stack Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Jonas Stein wrote: >> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000 >> pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a >> >> PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack >> space)) >> >> It's easily reproducible with a simple >> >> \starttext >> \dorecurse{5}{ >> \input knuth >> } \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \input knuth }\stoptext also fails after page [1619.1619]) with ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=1254582]. > i could run this > \starttext > \dorecurse{5}{narf \page} > \stoptext pdftex is ok luatex fails with pages > flushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987 PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) > I think that is a bug, or not? yes, I think so. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
> Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000 > pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a > > PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack > space)) > > It's easily reproducible with a simple > > \starttext > \dorecurse{5}{ > \input knuth > } > > Once it reaches page 4000 it will die. i could run this \starttext \dorecurse{5}{narf \page} \stoptext == pdfTeX warning: pdftex: no GlyphToUnicode entry has been inserted yet! Output written on test.pdf (5 pages, 10574005 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. TeXExec | runtime: 310.679998 == and got 5 pages in one pdf. Okular is quite slow in opening it and needs 200 MB RAM, but it works. But i could not use Ctrl-C to break the loop. I think that is a bug, or not? i use this context: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/context Kind regards, -- Jonas Stein ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 4000 pages limit?
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Marco Pessotto wrote: > > Hello there. > > Yesterday I was trying to typeset a very, very long document (about 3000 > pages in A4). Well, mkiv died with a > > PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack > space)) > > It's easily reproducible with a simple > > \starttext > \dorecurse{5}{ > \input knuth > } Confirmed \starttext \dorecurse{5}{ \input knuth }\stoptext die with pages > flushing realpage 3987, userpage 3987 PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow (out of stack space)) -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___