Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt in texlive versus Minimal ConTeXt
Dnia Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 08:31:54AM +0100, Maurice Diamantini napisa#322;(a): Le 13 nov. 08 à 10:45, Hans Hagen a écrit : Fengnan Gao wrote: I have some problem when using ConTeXt in tl08, ... I don't exactly know what that means but clearly I cannot use ConTeXt. Can someone help me? just use the minimals ... then you have the latest binaries and sources Is there any advantage (for ConTeXt) of using the Texlive (other than being multi-platform!) or other full xTeX distribution? Yes. If you use _both_ ConTeXt and LaTeX (and some of us - including me - are kind of forced to use LaTeX, too, because of: * having a number of old LaTeX files which wuold be a trouble to convert; * sending papers to journals accepting LaTeX; * writing LaTeX stuff to order) Personally I'd find it inconvenient to have two TeX trees and having to change my environment to use one or another. (Possibly, I could arrange it so that I don't have to change any environment variables, but still, since I don't need the state-of-the-art MkIV, texlive is ok for me.) If the minimal ConTeXt is the only standard way of using a full ConTeXt, then it could be rename maximal ;-) or more seriously something lire standard, hot or independant (longish) Well, it is minimal in the sense of dependencies, I guess. -- Maurice Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) Wołałem Pana w moim udręczeniu; mego Boga, mego Boga przyzywałem! I usłyszał mój głos ze Swej świątyni, i dotarł do Jego ucha mój krzyk! I ziemia poruszyła się i zadrżała, i fundamenty świata się odsłoniły; I wyciągnął Swą rękę i mnie pochwycił, wydźwignął mnie z głębokości wód! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt in texlive versus Minimal ConTeXt
Marcin Borkowski wrote: Well, it is minimal in the sense of dependencies, I guess. and also in the sense that there is much left out that would never be used at all; once luatex/mkiv is stable and once we have open type math fonts, even more font stuff can go away (since xetex does not need it either) keep in mind that small trees run faster (when kpse is used) also, they archive better (think of running 10 projects on a machine where each needs a frozen tree) another feature of the minimals is that by default they support texmf-project and texmf-fonts which makes separation of project specific files (and fonts) as well as commercial fonts more convenient. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt in texlive versus Minimal ConTeXt
Maurice Diamantini wrote: Le 13 nov. 08 à 10:45, Hans Hagen a écrit : Fengnan Gao wrote: I have some problem when using ConTeXt in tl08, ... I don't exactly know what that means but clearly I cannot use ConTeXt. Can someone help me? just use the minimals ... then you have the latest binaries and sources Is there any advantage (for ConTeXt) of using the Texlive (other than being multi-platform!) or other full xTeX distribution? tex live is fine for mkii but for mkiv you need recent binaries and macros (tex live was frozen before the summer) If the minimal ConTeXt is the only standard way of using a full ConTeXt, then it could be rename maximal ;-) well, if you choose to install only one engine, then it's really much smaller -) (a full tex live installation is about 1.5 gig; i just run context dev on top of tex live but in projects and such i use minimals) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt in texlive versus Minimal ConTeXt
Le 13 nov. 08 à 10:45, Hans Hagen a écrit : Fengnan Gao wrote: I have some problem when using ConTeXt in tl08, ... I don't exactly know what that means but clearly I cannot use ConTeXt. Can someone help me? just use the minimals ... then you have the latest binaries and sources Is there any advantage (for ConTeXt) of using the Texlive (other than being multi-platform!) or other full xTeX distribution? If the minimal ConTeXt is the only standard way of using a full ConTeXt, then it could be rename maximal ;-) or more seriously something lire standard, hot or independant (longish) -- Maurice ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
