Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt

2021-07-29 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
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> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2021 15:08
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> Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) 
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt
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> On 7/29/2021 2:19 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
> > This question is still not resolved. Maybe someone has another hint?
> order matters ... first define the bodyfontenviromnent

Thanks. That was it.

Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt

2021-07-29 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 7/29/2021 2:19 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

This question is still not resolved. Maybe someone has another hint?

order matters ... first define the bodyfontenviromnent

Hans



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Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt

2021-07-29 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
This question is still not resolved. Maybe someone has another hint?

Best,
Denis

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> denis.ma...@unibe.ch
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Juli 2021 13:44
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> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt
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> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: ntg-context  Im Auftrag von Henning
> > Hraban Ramm
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Juli 2021 13:12
> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt
> >
> >
> >
> > > Am 20.07.2021 um 13:09 schrieb denis.ma...@unibe.ch:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have to reproduce a book layout that was done in Adobe Indesign,
> > > and I
> > don’t really manage to get the right fontsizes, i.e. according to
> > Acrobat Pro the fonts are consistently a bit smaller then expected.
> > > That may well be an Adobe problem, it’s just that I have to aim for
> > > rather
> > specific target values... As you can see below the deviation is not so
> > significant with the normal font size and bigger sizes, but more so with the
> smaller sizes.
> >
> > The TeX point is smaller than the PostScript/DTP point.
> > Use the unit "bp" to get the same sizes as in desktop apps.
> >
> > See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography)
> >
> > Hraban
> 
> Thanks for your help. That's already better. The base font size, and the 
> bigger
> sizes are correct now. But it still does not work with the smaller sizes:
> 
> % ---
> \setupbodyfont[10bp]
> \definebodyfontenvironment
>   [10bp]
>   [xx=7bp,
>   x=8.5bp,
>   a=11.75bp,
>   b=15bp,
>   ]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> 
> {\tfxx Smallest } % => expected 7pt, actual 6pt with LM Roman 7
> 
> {\tfx Small} % => expected 8.5pt, actual 8pt with LM Roman 9
> 
> {\tf Normal} % => expected 10pt, ok
> 
> {\tfa Larger} % => expected 11.75pt, ok
> 
> {\tfb Largest} % => expected 15pt, ok
> 
> \stoptext
> %---
> 
> Maybe that's an issue with optical sizes?
> 
> Best,
> Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt

2021-07-20 Thread denis.maier
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ntg-context  Im Auftrag von Henning
> Hraban Ramm
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Juli 2021 13:12
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt
> 
> 
> 
> > Am 20.07.2021 um 13:09 schrieb denis.ma...@unibe.ch:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have to reproduce a book layout that was done in Adobe Indesign, and I
> don’t really manage to get the right fontsizes, i.e. according to Acrobat Pro 
> the
> fonts are consistently a bit smaller then expected.
> > That may well be an Adobe problem, it’s just that I have to aim for rather
> specific target values... As you can see below the deviation is not so 
> significant
> with the normal font size and bigger sizes, but more so with the smaller 
> sizes.
> 
> The TeX point is smaller than the PostScript/DTP point.
> Use the unit "bp" to get the same sizes as in desktop apps.
> 
> See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography)
> 
> Hraban

Thanks for your help. That's already better. The base font size, and the bigger 
sizes are correct now. But it still does not work with the smaller sizes:

% ---
\setupbodyfont[10bp] 
\definebodyfontenvironment
[10bp]
[xx=7bp,
x=8.5bp,
a=11.75bp, 
b=15bp,
] 

\starttext


{\tfxx Smallest } % => expected 7pt, actual 6pt with LM Roman 7

{\tfx Small} % => expected 8.5pt, actual 8pt with LM Roman 9

{\tf Normal} % => expected 10pt, ok

{\tfa Larger} % => expected 11.75pt, ok

{\tfb Largest} % => expected 15pt, ok

\stoptext
%---

Maybe that's an issue with optical sizes?

Best,
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Fontsizes in Adobe Acrobat vs ConTeXt

2021-07-20 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm


> Am 20.07.2021 um 13:09 schrieb denis.ma...@unibe.ch:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have to reproduce a book layout that was done in Adobe Indesign, and I 
> don’t really manage to get the right fontsizes, i.e. according to Acrobat Pro 
> the fonts are consistently a bit smaller then expected.
> That may well be an Adobe problem, it’s just that I have to aim for rather 
> specific target values... As you can see below the deviation is not so 
> significant with the normal font size and bigger sizes, but more so with the 
> smaller sizes.

The TeX point is smaller than the PostScript/DTP point.
Use the unit "bp" to get the same sizes as in desktop apps.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography)

Hraban

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