Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-10-02 Thread gnwiii 
On 10/1/06, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/29/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
  Steve Peter wrote:
   There is now a MikTeX package manager for Linux.
 
  And it is best not to use it since it ships a context that
  believes it is running on windows...

ConTeXt should adjust to the differences (see ruby/tex.rb), but
someone may need to
search out the bugs and report them.

 But then it has to be fixed, not thrown away ... I bet that the main
 reason is one of the many if (MikTeX) switches in the source code
 assuming that MikTeX is running on windows. Are there any MikTeX/Lunux
 users around? (I work on windows 99% of time, but if I manage to
 install MikTeX on the linux partition, I'll give it a try.)

 The other thing is: I have no idea how the executables are created. I
 sent quite a few requests, so that now finally the ruby scripts are
 used instead of the old perl-based ones. But I don't have the
 slightest idea how they work under Linux.

I have ConTeXt under MikTeX and also on Fedora Core 5 both using the
Aug. 8 release from a separate texmf-cont tree, so I didn't install
the MikTeX version at all (I did steal
texmfstart.exe from W32tex).

There were some problems in the MikTeX-2.5 betas due to different
command-line switches in linux (and W32TeX) versions of pdftex, but I
thought that had been fixed in the
final version.  There are some system specific flags set in
base/tex.rb to deal with any lingering differences, so if there are
problems I'd compare the options for pdftex and see if they are
reflected in tex.rb.

-- 
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Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-10-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec 
On 9/29/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Steve Peter wrote:
  There is now a MikTeX package manager for Linux.

 And it is best not to use it since it ships a context that
 believes it is running on windows...

But then it has to be fixed, not thrown away ... I bet that the main
reason is one of the many if (MikTeX) switches in the source code
assuming that MikTeX is running on windows. Are there any MikTeX/Lunux
users around? (I work on windows 99% of time, but if I manage to
install MikTeX on the linux partition, I'll give it a try.)

The other thing is: I have no idea how the executables are created. I
sent quite a few requests, so that now finally the ruby scripts are
used instead of the old perl-based ones. But I don't have the
slightest idea how they work under Linux.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-30 Thread Taco Hoekwater 

Hi,

Looks like your update went fine excep that you have an old format
file still on your disk:

 
 FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

Context source version used to generate cont-en.fmt:

 FormatVersion   : 2006.07.14 12:08

Current (runtime) source version:

 FilesVersion: 2006.09.28 22:43

Search the stale cont-en.fmt and delete it.

Greetings, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-30 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan 
 Search for the stale cont-en.fmt and delete it.

Right -- most likely produced by fmtutil before you commented out the
automatic regeneration of context formats.  Same problem happens with
other Unix installations, e.g. I got bit a few times on Debian and
Ubuntu.  Here's one way to find the cont-en.fmt that you are using:

  $ kpsewhich -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt
  /home/sanjoy/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt

(when pdfetex finishes turning into pdftex, as in the latest pdftex
releases, the engine line should I guess change to pdftex)

Then you can look at it's date and make sure it's the one you just
generated.

kpsewhere does a more general tex path search, which looks in each
TEXMF tree (kpsewhich tells you only the first one it finds):

  $ kpsewhere -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt
  /home/sanjoy/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt

-Sanjoy

`Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.'
 --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1.
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-30 Thread Jeremy Johnson 
On Saturday 30 September 2006 09:55, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote:
  Search for the stale cont-en.fmt and delete it.

 Right -- most likely produced by fmtutil before you commented out the
 automatic regeneration of context formats.  Same problem happens with
 other Unix installations, e.g. I got bit a few times on Debian and
 Ubuntu.  Here's one way to find the cont-en.fmt that you are using:

   $ kpsewhich -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt
   /home/sanjoy/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt

 (when pdfetex finishes turning into pdftex, as in the latest pdftex
 releases, the engine line should I guess change to pdftex)

 Then you can look at it's date and make sure it's the one you just
 generated.

 kpsewhere does a more general tex path search, which looks in each
 TEXMF tree (kpsewhich tells you only the first one it finds):

   $ kpsewhere -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt
   /home/sanjoy/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt

 -Sanjoy

 `Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.'
  --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1.


OK, I regenerated texexec --make en de nl; texexec --make metafun
and checked to see what was created:
# for f in `kpsewhere -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt`; do ls -l ${f}; done
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6642152 Sep 30 
16:04 /root/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6562550 Sep 29 15:21 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/cont-en.fmt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6562550 Sep 29 15:21 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/cont-en.fmt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6562550 Sep 29 15:21 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/cont-en.fmt


So, today (Sept 30) /root/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt was created.
So I simply copied /root/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/* /var/lib/texmf/web2c/

texexec new.tex seems to run OK now, without error.
I'll investigate further.

THANKS.


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-30 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan 
 So I simply copied /root/.texmf-var/web2c/pdfetex/* /var/lib/texmf/web2c/
 texexec new.tex seems to run OK now, without error.
 I'll investigate further.

You run texexec as root, I'm guessing, so that the formats will be
visible to all users.  However, that means they go into root's
.texmf-var/ directory because the TEXFORMATS kpse variable contains
the home-directory .texmf-var before /var/lib/texmf.  Here's how to
check:

$ kpsewhich --expand-path='$TEXFORMATS'
.:/home/sanjoy/.texmf-var/web2c:/home/sanjoy/texmf/web2c:/var/lib/texmf/web2c:/usr/local/share/texmf/web2c:/usr/share/texmf/web2c:/usr/share/texmf-tetex/web2c

Yup, ~/.texmf-var/web2c comes first.

That's due to these lines in /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf, at least on my
Ubuntu (teTeX 3.0) system:

TEXMF = 
{$TEXMFCONFIG,$TEXMFVAR,$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFSYSCONFIG,!!$TEXMFSYSVAR,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFMAIN,!!$TEXMFDIST}

TEXFORMATS = .;$TEXMF/web2c/{$engine,}

The TEXMFVAR is short for $HOME/.texmf-var and is what means the
formats go in /root/.texmf-var/.  So, you need to change TEXFORMATS
for the texexec run, telling it to place them in /var/lib/texmf:

# TEXFORMATS='/var/lib/texmf/web2c/{$engine,}' texexec --make --all

Or slightly more general, in case TEXMFSYSVAR changes someday from
/var/lib/texmf (note all the horrid quoting):

# TEXFORMATS=`kpsewhich --expand-path='$TEXMFSYSVAR'`'/web2c/{$engine,}' \
  texexec --make --all

I just tried it as root, and it seemed to work -- I got brand-new
formats in /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfetex:

# ls /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfetex/*.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfetex/cont-nl.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfetex/mptopdf.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdfetex/cont-en.fmt

 # for f in `kpsewhere -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt`; do ls -l ${f}; done

Or slightly simpler (using -U to preserve the order produced by
kpsewhere):

# ls -lU `kpsewhere -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt`

or

# kpsewhere -engine=pdfetex cont-en.fmt | xargs ls -Ul

-Sanjoy

`Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.'
 --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1.
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-29 Thread John R. Culleton 
On Friday 29 September 2006 09:45, Jeremy Johnson wrote:
 I'm having problems starting ConTeXt with texexec
 on my Gentoo system.

 I've installed ConTeXt using the MikTeX Package Manager:

Miktex is for Windows, not Linux. Try another distro, such as TeX
Live or the the minimal distro at the Context site,
www.pragma-ade.nl
-- 
John Culleton
Able Indexing and Typesetting
Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost.
Satisfaction guaranteed. 
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Peter 

On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:35 PM, John R. Culleton wrote:

 On Friday 29 September 2006 09:45, Jeremy Johnson wrote:
 I'm having problems starting ConTeXt with texexec
 on my Gentoo system.

 I've installed ConTeXt using the MikTeX Package Manager:

 Miktex is for Windows, not Linux.

There is now a MikTeX package manager for Linux.

Steve

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-29 Thread Taco Hoekwater 
Steve Peter wrote:
 On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:35 PM, John R. Culleton wrote:
 
 
On Friday 29 September 2006 09:45, Jeremy Johnson wrote:

I'm having problems starting ConTeXt with texexec
on my Gentoo system.

I've installed ConTeXt using the MikTeX Package Manager:

Miktex is for Windows, not Linux.
 
 
 There is now a MikTeX package manager for Linux.

And it is best not to use it since it ships a context that
believes it is running on windows...

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with ConTeXt installation

2006-09-29 Thread Jeremy Johnson 
 And it is best not to use it since it ships a context that
 believes it is running on windows...

 Taco

OK,

I've uninstalled context: mpm --uninstall=context
as well as all other context packages installed through mpm:
for `f in mpm --list|grep context|grep ^i|tr -s [:space:]|cut -d ' ' -f 4`; \
do mpm --uninstall=${f}; done

Then I've downloaded
http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/current/cont-tmf.zip

and followed the instructions in:
http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/minstall.pdf

edit and activate context formats
# slocate fmtutil.cnf
/etc/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf
/etc/texmf/fmtutil.d/00fmtutil.cnf
#texexec --make

Regenerate formats
#cd /usr/local/share/texmf
#unzip ~/DOWNLOADS/cont-tmf.zip
#texexec --make en de nl
#texexec --make metafun

I've also update /etc/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf:
openaout_any = a
shell_escape = t
allow_multiple_suffixes = f
MPXCOMMAND=texexec --mptex

But I now get following error when I run:

$texexec new.tex

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

fixing engine variable : pdfetex
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : new
output : standard
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./new.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2006.07.14 12:08  fmt: 2006.9.29  int: english  mes: english

language: language en is active
protectionstate 0
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2006.07.14 12:08
FilesVersion: 2006.09.28 22:43


   return code : 0
  run time : 1 seconds
  sorting and checking : running texutil

 TeXUtil 9.0.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2006

action : processing commands, lists and registers
option : sorting IJ under Y
option : converting high ASCII values
 error : empty input file new

remark : 'texutil' is now part of 'texexec'
   warning : use 'texmfstart texutil' instead

total run time : 1 seconds

   warning : use 'texmfstart texexec' instead
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/Test$ texexec new.tex

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

fixing engine variable : pdfetex
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : new
output : standard
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./new.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2006.07.14 12:08  fmt: 2006.9.29  int: english  mes: english

language: language en is active
protectionstate 0
system  : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2006.07.14 12:08
FilesVersion: 2006.09.28 22:43


   return code : 0
  run time : 1 seconds
  sorting and checking : running texutil

 TeXUtil 9.0.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2006

action : processing commands, lists and registers
option : sorting IJ under Y
option : converting high ASCII values
 error : empty input file new

remark : 'texutil' is now part of 'texexec'
   warning : use 'texmfstart texutil' instead

total run time : 1 seconds

   warning : use 'texmfstart texexec' instead

_

What does this Fatal error message mean?

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!
FormatVersion   : 2006.07.14 12:08
FilesVersion: 2006.09.28 22:43
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