Re: [NTG-context] Why I needed \parbox and why does \framed not work here?
Hi Gerben and all,
A slow reaction from me. As the author of the bib module, I urge
everybody *not* to use the module for its side effect of defining
some LaTeX commands, because LaTeX support will almost certainly
be dropped in the near future.
Greetings, Taco
Gerben Wierda wrote:
I am trying to convert to ConTeXt and I have a text with a lot of truth
tables using a \ttable and \xttable command I defined. I ported these to
ConTeXt but I can't get the \parbox - \framed to work.
% Example document with truth tables starts here
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
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Re: [NTG-context] Why I needed \parbox and why does \framed not work here?
Hi Gerben
The problem is, that \starttable[|c|c|c|] is for oneliners only.
Replace the statement with
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p|p|p|]\HL %
Kind regards
Willi
Gerben Wierda wrote:
I am trying to convert to ConTeXt and I have a text with a lot of truth
tables using a \ttable and \xttable command I defined. I ported these to
ConTeXt but I can't get the \parbox - \framed to work.
% Example document with truth tables starts here
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|c|c|c|]\HL %
#1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \SR\HL
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \FR %
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \LR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work either:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort of longer
statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort of longer
statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Why I needed \parbox and why does \framed not work here?
Here is the example again, now with p columns. Never mind the
non-working third example (ConTeXt wraps three elements in the third
column now but not inside the \framed), but it seems that ConTeXt does
not wrap the first column at all. As a result, the other two are very
small.
G
PS. The ConTeXT manual does not have \starttable documentation, not
does the wiki (how does 'p' work etc).
% Try with 'p' columns
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p|p|p|]\HL %
#1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \SR\HL
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \FR %
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \LR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer
statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work either:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Why I needed \parbox and why does \framed not work here?
Hi Gerben,
There is no worry about the mentioned chaos. You might be lucky, that
your definition is giving a result at all.
If you consult the manual or read the article in the MAPS22 on
tabulating, you will see, that you missed a correct setup of the tabulation.
I attach my version and it works.
KR
Willi
Gerben Wierda wrote:
Here is the example again, now with p columns. Never mind the
non-working third example (ConTeXt wraps three elements in the third
column now but not inside the \framed), but it seems that ConTeXt does
not wrap the first column at all. As a result, the other two are very
small.
G
PS. The ConTeXT manual does not have \starttable documentation, not does
the wiki (how does 'p' work etc).
% Try with 'p' columns
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p|p|p|]\HL %
#1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \SR\HL
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \FR %
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \LR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work either:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
\stoptext
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% Truthtables Gerben Wierda
% C0ntext file
% filename: truthtable-Wierda.tex
% Gerben Wierda
% W. Egger
% 13-03-2005
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setupbodyfont[ss,12pt]
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p(2cm)|p(5cm)|p(3cm)|]
\HL %
\NC #1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \NC\NR
\HL
\NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \NC\NR %
\NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \NC\NR %
\NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \NC \NR %
\NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \NC\NR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
% This doesn't work either:\blank
% \midaligned{%
% \xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort of longer
% statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort of longer
% statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
% {unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
% }
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Why I needed \parbox and why does \framed not work here?
Indeed, there is no \starttable info in the manuals. You might have a
look into the sources:core-tab.tex. But what I can see, is, that you do
not use vertical lines. If all tables are such, then I would suggest to
use \starttabulate instead.
KR
Willi
Gerben Wierda wrote:
Here is the example again, now with p columns. Never mind the
non-working third example (ConTeXt wraps three elements in the third
column now but not inside the \framed), but it seems that ConTeXt does
not wrap the first column at all. As a result, the other two are very
small.
G
PS. The ConTeXT manual does not have \starttable documentation, not does
the wiki (how does 'p' work etc).
% Try with 'p' columns
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p|p|p|]\HL %
#1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \SR\HL
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \FR %
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \LR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work either:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Why I needed \parbox and why does \framed not work here?
Hi Willi,
Thanks.
If what you changed was the addition of the (2cm) stuff, I did try that
but it did not change anything at that time.
But now I notice that I need to start my rows with a \NC. I would have
thought that a \NC would be like a \crlf or a \page and that it would
have been implied in the \NR command. I find this counterintuitive.
Anyway, Having that (2cm) stuff in the \startabulate makes all tables
the same in column width. I used to be able to have one command
\xttable where the result depended on what I had in the main text.
So, yes, I can use p columns, but that means that all of my tables will
hae to have identical column widths. That is why I wanted to use c
columns and have that decision in the text. So I would still be
interested in a way of doing \parbox in ConTeXt.
(For non-LaTeX users \parbox{2cm}{text text text text etc} creates a
paragraph 2 cm wide and sets the text in it. The height of the box is
the result of that typesetting.)
G
On Mar 13, 2005, at 16:05, Willi Egger wrote:
Hi Gerben,
There is no worry about the mentioned chaos. You might be lucky, that
your definition is giving a result at all.
If you consult the manual or read the article in the MAPS22 on
tabulating, you will see, that you missed a correct setup of the
tabulation.
I attach my version and it works.
KR
Willi
Gerben Wierda wrote:
Here is the example again, now with p columns. Never mind the
non-working third example (ConTeXt wraps three elements in the third
column now but not inside the \framed), but it seems that ConTeXt
does not wrap the first column at all. As a result, the other two are
very small.
G
PS. The ConTeXT manual does not have \starttable documentation, not
does the wiki (how does 'p' work etc).
% Try with 'p' columns
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p|p|p|]\HL %
#1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \SR\HL
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \FR %
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \LR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer
statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work either:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort\par of
longer
statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
\stoptext
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% Truthtables Gerben Wierda
% C0ntext file
% filename: truthtable-Wierda.tex
% Gerben Wierda
% W. Egger
% 13-03-2005
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setupbodyfont[ss,12pt]
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p(2cm)|p(5cm)|p(3cm)|]
\HL %
\NC #1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \NC\NR
\HL
\NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \NC\NR %
\NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \NC\NR %
\NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \NC \NR %
\NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \NC\NR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer
statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
% This doesn't work either:\blank
% \midaligned{%
% \xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort of longer
% statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort of longer
% statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
% {unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
% }
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Why I needed \parbox and why does \framed not work here?
hi Gerben,
Gerben Wierda wrote:
Hi Willi,
Thanks.
If what you changed was the addition of the (2cm) stuff, I did try that
but it did not change anything at that time.
But now I notice that I need to start my rows with a \NC. I would have
thought that a \NC would be like a \crlf or a \page and that it would
have been implied in the \NR command. I find this counterintuitive.
No, the \NC means new column and in order to organize this I believe it
is natural to start with \NC and end with \NC\NR to indicate a new row
to be started.
Anyway, Having that (2cm) stuff in the \startabulate makes all tables
the same in column width. I used to be able to have one command \xttable
where the result depended on what I had in the main text.
What about extend your definition with another parameter?
\newcommand{\xttable}[8]{\starttable[|p(#8)|p(#8)|p(#8)|] ...
KR
Willi
So, yes, I can use p columns, but that means that all of my tables will
hae to have identical column widths. That is why I wanted to use c
columns and have that decision in the text. So I would still be
interested in a way of doing \parbox in ConTeXt.
(For non-LaTeX users \parbox{2cm}{text text text text etc} creates a
paragraph 2 cm wide and sets the text in it. The height of the box is
the result of that typesetting.)
G
On Mar 13, 2005, at 16:05, Willi Egger wrote:
Hi Gerben,
There is no worry about the mentioned chaos. You might be lucky, that
your definition is giving a result at all.
If you consult the manual or read the article in the MAPS22 on
tabulating, you will see, that you missed a correct setup of the
tabulation.
I attach my version and it works.
KR
Willi
Gerben Wierda wrote:
Here is the example again, now with p columns. Never mind the
non-working third example (ConTeXt wraps three elements in the third
column now but not inside the \framed), but it seems that ConTeXt
does not wrap the first column at all. As a result, the other two are
very small.
G
PS. The ConTeXT manual does not have \starttable documentation, not
does the wiki (how does 'p' work etc).
% Try with 'p' columns
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p|p|p|]\HL %
#1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \SR\HL
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \FR %
\ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \MR %
\ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \LR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer
statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work either:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort\par of longer
statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
\stoptext
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% C0ntext file
% filename: truthtable-Wierda.tex
% Gerben Wierda
% W. Egger
% 13-03-2005
\setupoutput[pdftex]
\setupbodyfont[ss,12pt]
\usemodule[bib] % defines \newcommand
\newcommand{\operand}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\ttvalue}[1]{{\sc #1}}
\newcommand{\xttable}[7]{\starttable[|p(2cm)|p(5cm)|p(3cm)|]
\HL %
\NC #1 \NC #2 \NC #1 \operand{#3} #2 \NC\NR
\HL
\NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#4} \NC\NR %
\NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#5} \NC\NR %
\NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{false} \NC \ttvalue{#6} \NC \NR %
\NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{true} \NC \ttvalue{#7} \NC\NR\HL %
\stoptable}
\newcommand{\ttable}[5]{\xttable{a}{b}{#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}}
\starttext
Looks fine:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Statement X}{Statement Y}{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
This doesn't work:\blank
\midaligned{%
\xttable{Some sort of longer statement}{Another sort of longer
statement}%
{$\Rightarrow$}%
{unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
}
% This doesn't work either:\blank
% \midaligned{%
% \xttable{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Some sort of longer
% statement\par}}{\framed[width=2cm,frame=off]{Another sort of longer
% statement\par}}{$\Rightarrow$}%
% {unknown}{unknown}{invalid (false)}{valid (true)}
% }
\stoptext
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Gerben Wierda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is the example again, now with p columns. Never mind the non-working third example (ConTeXt wraps three elements in the third column now but not inside the \framed), but it seems that ConTeXt does not wrap the first column at all. As a result, the other two are very small. G PS. The ConTeXT manual does not have \starttable documentation, not does the wiki (how does 'p' work etc). Have you read the documents .../general/uptodate/up-004 and up-008? I found them very helpful in learning how to control tables and tabulations. -- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
