Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup
Am 18.03.2012 um 23:10 schrieb Alan Braslau: On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:59:17 +0100 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2. Many of the \define… and \setup… commands are now auto generated from \installcommandhandler which generates only one setup-command which can be used for global (i.e. \setup…[..,..=..,..]) and local (i.e. \setup…[…][..,..=..,..]) settings. Thank you Wolfgang for this explanation. Do you mean: global (i.e. \define…[..,..=..,..] and local (i.e. \setup…[…][..,..=..,..]) settings? No, I meant with \setupheads[style=bold] you can change the font of each heading and with \setuphead[section][style=italic] you change only the font for section. As you can see we have a plural and a singular form of the command. With the new system to generate the setup commands we have only \setuphead which handles bot cases. For backward compatibility you can find things like this: \let\setupnotes\setupnote OK, but is this a good idea? I thought that mkii is kept around for backward compatibility and that mkiv takes the liberty to rationalize the syntax, sometimes sacrificing backwards compatibility in order not to be encumbered with inconsistent syntax, whenever possible. Indeed, this sometimes generates much discussion on the mailing list when we discover that our favorite command has been removed or renamed - a good way of testing to see if we are active and alert. :) It’s better to promote the new commands but we should take time until the old variants vanish because we have to get used to them. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup
Am 17.03.2012 um 20:38 schrieb Honza Hejzl:
Hi,
I have installed the last standalone version from contextgarden and oops, my
(few days) old file does not work properly. My old setup of footnotes was
like:
\setupfootnotedefinition[loaction=page...]
\setupfootnotes[bodyfontsize=8pt, style=\ss...]
Now the context does not understand to that. So I am trying to set up
footnotes with \setupnote[footnote] but it seems nothing works. I am not able
to use location=serried, location=page, style and so on... Is it connected
with some general update? :o(
The command \setupnotedefinition (where \setupfootnotedefinition is a shortcut
for \setupnotedefinition[footnote]) is now \setupnotation and
“location=serried” is now “alternative=serried”. The \setupnote command
(\setupfootnotes is \setupnote[footnote]) has only a “bodyfont” key which
accepts “{8pt,sans}” as argument but not “bodyfontsize” key and style is only
available for \setupnotation (but as you saw you can add it to bodyfont).
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:56:30 +0100
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 17.03.2012 um 20:38 schrieb Honza Hejzl:
Hi,
I have installed the last standalone version from contextgarden and
oops, my (few days) old file does not work properly. My old setup
of footnotes was like:
\setupfootnotedefinition[loaction=page...]
\setupfootnotes[bodyfontsize=8pt, style=\ss...]
Now the context does not understand to that. So I am trying to set
up footnotes with \setupnote[footnote] but it seems nothing works.
I am not able to use location=serried, location=page, style and so
on... Is it connected with some general update? :o(
The command \setupnotedefinition (where \setupfootnotedefinition is a
shortcut for \setupnotedefinition[footnote]) is now \setupnotation
and “location=serried” is now “alternative=serried”. The \setupnote
command (\setupfootnotes is \setupnote[footnote]) has only a
“bodyfont” key which accepts “{8pt,sans}” as argument but not
“bodyfontsize” key and style is only available for \setupnotation
(but as you saw you can add it to bodyfont).
Wolfgang
Looking at strc-not.mkvi and from your explanations above
it is still not clear to me how to use the new footnote definitions.
We have \setupnotedefinition
(with \setupfootnotedefinition=\setupnotedefinition[footnote]),
\setupnote (with \setupfootnotes=\setupnote[footnote]),
also \setupnotes (=\setupnote ?)
Is there any difference between the singular and the plural forms?
Also, what parameters are accepted? (I see % not all make sense here
in strc-not.mkvi)
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Footnotes seems confused (ToDo).
In particular, I am still trying to get
next=\autoinsertnextspace
to make \startfootnote\stopfootnote work correctly...
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup
Am 18.03.2012 um 13:14 schrieb Alan Braslau:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:56:30 +0100
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 17.03.2012 um 20:38 schrieb Honza Hejzl:
Hi,
I have installed the last standalone version from contextgarden and
oops, my (few days) old file does not work properly. My old setup
of footnotes was like:
\setupfootnotedefinition[loaction=page...]
\setupfootnotes[bodyfontsize=8pt, style=\ss...]
Now the context does not understand to that. So I am trying to set
up footnotes with \setupnote[footnote] but it seems nothing works.
I am not able to use location=serried, location=page, style and so
on... Is it connected with some general update? :o(
The command \setupnotedefinition (where \setupfootnotedefinition is a
shortcut for \setupnotedefinition[footnote]) is now \setupnotation
and “location=serried” is now “alternative=serried”. The \setupnote
command (\setupfootnotes is \setupnote[footnote]) has only a
“bodyfont” key which accepts “{8pt,sans}” as argument but not
“bodyfontsize” key and style is only available for \setupnotation
(but as you saw you can add it to bodyfont).
Wolfgang
Looking at strc-not.mkvi and from your explanations above
it is still not clear to me how to use the new footnote definitions.
We have \setupnotedefinition
(with \setupfootnotedefinition=\setupnotedefinition[footnote]),
\setupnote (with \setupfootnotes=\setupnote[footnote]),
also \setupnotes (=\setupnote ?)
Is there any difference between the singular and the plural forms?
Also, what parameters are accepted? (I see % not all make sense here
in strc-not.mkvi)
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Footnotes seems confused (ToDo).
In particular, I am still trying to get
next=\autoinsertnextspace
to make \startfootnote\stopfootnote work correctly...
Footnotes are not yet fixed (due to Hans' flue ...)
So it is probably in vain trying to make sense of the current state of the
footnote mechanism.
Best wishes, Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup
On 18/03/12 07:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
The command \setupnotedefinition (where \setupfootnotedefinition is a
shortcut for \setupnotedefinition[footnote]) is now \setupnotation
and “location=serried” is now “alternative=serried”. The \setupnote
command (\setupfootnotes is \setupnote[footnote]) has only a
“bodyfont” key which accepts “{8pt,sans}” as argument but not
“bodyfontsize” key and style is only available for \setupnotation
(but as you saw you can add it to bodyfont).
Many thanks for the reply, Wolfgang.
I know you weren't replying a question of mine, but reading the code
itself I solved some issues I had with linenotes and I found a bug
(which I report on a different thread).
Reading the code seemed counterproductive to me, but it seems to be one
of the best methods to learn from ConTeXt.
Thanks again,
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup
Am 18.03.2012 um 13:14 schrieb Alan Braslau:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:56:30 +0100
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 17.03.2012 um 20:38 schrieb Honza Hejzl:
Hi,
I have installed the last standalone version from contextgarden and
oops, my (few days) old file does not work properly. My old setup
of footnotes was like:
\setupfootnotedefinition[loaction=page...]
\setupfootnotes[bodyfontsize=8pt, style=\ss...]
Now the context does not understand to that. So I am trying to set
up footnotes with \setupnote[footnote] but it seems nothing works.
I am not able to use location=serried, location=page, style and so
on... Is it connected with some general update? :o(
The command \setupnotedefinition (where \setupfootnotedefinition is a
shortcut for \setupnotedefinition[footnote]) is now \setupnotation
and “location=serried” is now “alternative=serried”. The \setupnote
command (\setupfootnotes is \setupnote[footnote]) has only a
“bodyfont” key which accepts “{8pt,sans}” as argument but not
“bodyfontsize” key and style is only available for \setupnotation
(but as you saw you can add it to bodyfont).
Wolfgang
Looking at strc-not.mkvi and from your explanations above
it is still not clear to me how to use the new footnote definitions.
We have \setupnotedefinition
(with \setupfootnotedefinition=\setupnotedefinition[footnote]),
\setupnote (with \setupfootnotes=\setupnote[footnote]),
also \setupnotes (=\setupnote ?)
Is there any difference between the singular and the plural forms?
Also, what parameters are accepted? (I see % not all make sense here
in strc-not.mkvi)
1. The \setupnotedefinition was replaced with \setupnotation
2. Many of the \define… and \setup… commands are now auto generated
from \installcommandhandler which generates only one setup-command
which can be used for global (i.e. \setup…[..,..=..,..]) and local
(i.e. \setup…[…][..,..=..,..]) settings. For backward compatibility you
can find things like this: \let\setupnotes\setupnote
3. The argument are same as before (with a few changes)
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Footnotes seems confused (ToDo).
In particular, I am still trying to get
next=\autoinsertnextspace
to make \startfootnote\stopfootnote work correctly…
Large parts of the code have been rewritten and the next key wasn’t added yet.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes setup
On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:59:17 +0100 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2. Many of the \define… and \setup… commands are now auto generated from \installcommandhandler which generates only one setup-command which can be used for global (i.e. \setup…[..,..=..,..]) and local (i.e. \setup…[…][..,..=..,..]) settings. Thank you Wolfgang for this explanation. Do you mean: global (i.e. \define…[..,..=..,..] and local (i.e. \setup…[…][..,..=..,..]) settings? For backward compatibility you can find things like this: \let\setupnotes\setupnote OK, but is this a good idea? I thought that mkii is kept around for backward compatibility and that mkiv takes the liberty to rationalize the syntax, sometimes sacrificing backwards compatibility in order not to be encumbered with inconsistent syntax, whenever possible. Indeed, this sometimes generates much discussion on the mailing list when we discover that our favorite command has been removed or renamed - a good way of testing to see if we are active and alert. :) Alan -- Alan Braslau CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC CNRS URA 2464 Orme des Merisiers 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15 fax: +33 1 69 08 87 86 mailto:alan.bras...@cea.fr ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
