Re: [NTG-context] standard focus with interaction is not working

2009-08-24 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:29:57PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Khaled Hosny wrote:
>> \setupinteraction[focus=standard] has no effect, I get the usual "fit
>> page" mode instead. Works fine with MkII.
>>
>> Example:
>> \setupinteraction[state=start,focus=standard]
>> \starttext
>> \goto{Knuth}[knuth]
>> \page
>> \input knuth \textreference[knuth]{}
>> \stoptext
>
> in mkiv hypherlinks (annotations in general) are implemented rather  
> different thamn in mkii
>
> in mkii the mechanism evolved from dvi based hyperlinks (dviwindo) and  
> had a couple of features not supported by pdftex by default
>
> in mkiv all is handled by lua code (no pdf annotation primitives are  
> used); thsi means that we can do some more tricks than before; i  
> implemented support for views for lists but not for all other components  
> yet; after all, some of the view (focus) features make no sense for  
> references like the one in your example (future mkiv releases will  
> provide control over references areas)
>
> i added support for that key but keep in mind that this is rather viewer  
> dependent (an di have no time now to figure out viewer details)

Thanks.

>> A side note, I'm just wondering why "standard" isn't the default mode,
>> "fit page" is very annoying and distracts me while reading and I wonder
>> why anyone would need that in regular documents?
>
> because it always was that defaukt and because it's the way i like it (i  
> always have/had high res screens, 1600x1200 or 1920x1200, which is nice  
> for viewing whole pages

Not that common setup :) but as long as we have a way to use normal
focus for our poor setups it should be fine.


Regards,
 Khaled


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 Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
 Free font developer


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Re: [NTG-context] standard focus with interaction is not working

2009-08-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Khaled Hosny wrote:

\setupinteraction[focus=standard] has no effect, I get the usual "fit
page" mode instead. Works fine with MkII.

Example:
\setupinteraction[state=start,focus=standard]
\starttext
\goto{Knuth}[knuth]
\page
\input knuth \textreference[knuth]{}
\stoptext


in mkiv hypherlinks (annotations in general) are implemented rather 
different thamn in mkii


in mkii the mechanism evolved from dvi based hyperlinks (dviwindo) and 
had a couple of features not supported by pdftex by default


in mkiv all is handled by lua code (no pdf annotation primitives are 
used); thsi means that we can do some more tricks than before; i 
implemented support for views for lists but not for all other components 
yet; after all, some of the view (focus) features make no sense for 
references like the one in your example (future mkiv releases will 
provide control over references areas)


i added support for that key but keep in mind that this is rather viewer 
dependent (an di have no time now to figure out viewer details)



A side note, I'm just wondering why "standard" isn't the default mode,
"fit page" is very annoying and distracts me while reading and I wonder
why anyone would need that in regular documents?


because it always was that defaukt and because it's the way i like it (i 
always have/had high res screens, 1600x1200 or 1920x1200, which is nice 
for viewing whole pages


Hans

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