Re: [NTG-context] Strange result with 2 columns and textbackground

2005-02-28 Thread VnPenguin
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:26:34 +0100, h h extern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 no, you uncovered a secret: these backgrounds are only supported on one column
 mode and column sets; i did a quick hackery test and it is possible to add
 support for multi-columns, but the complication is that it currently 
 interferes
 with mixed one/multi columns (it only takes a few lines of code, but then you
 have half a solution.
 
 i need to separate the multi column sub-output routine first as well as to add
 an otr state tracking system in order to get this working robustly; remind in
 half a year or so
 
 ntw, if you want just backgrounds behind columns:
 
 \setupcolors[state=start]
 
 \setupcolumns[option=background,background=color,backgroundcolor=red]
 
 \starttext
 
 \chapter{Chapter TEST}
 
 \input tufte
 
 \startcolumns
\section{tufte.tex} \input tufte
\section{knuth.tex} \input knuth
 \stopcolumns
 
 \input tufte
 
 \stoptext
 

Thank you.
Q.
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[NTG-context] shortcut to TOC page from any page

2005-02-28 Thread VnPenguin
Hi,
I would like to make a shortcut to TOC page in my document. The idea
is from any page of the doc when I do this shortcut (keyboard or
mouse) I return to the TOC.

Anyone know if there is a way to do this in ConTeXt ?

Thank you,
Q.
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Re: [NTG-context] lettrine.sty, but not LaTeX

2005-02-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Mats Broberg wrote:
- I tested with the inital H and
[Lines=4,Hang=.1,Nindent=20pt,Findent=20pt]. This makes the H itself be
indented too (see enclosed dump). It seems that Findent adds space both
before and after the dropcap, when it only should add after the dropcap.
That was a bug, so, although I promised I wouldn't do this ... here is
version four. ;-)
- The text font seems to be defaulted to small capitals. However, this
is merely one of the conventions how text after a dropcap is set. Other
conventions include e.g. roman or italic caps, roman or italic lower
case etc.
You can set the 'TextFont' parameter to something else.
- Regarding the slope one should be able to set indentation separately
for each line. This depends on the fact that some characters call for a
different type of intendation of the lines - e.g. the character L.
I will keep this in mind for a future extension
- Sometimes there is a need to indent the dropcap slightly itself, e.g.
if one uses a quotation mark before the dropcap. So a parameter to
control that would be great.
You can set the 'Hang' parameter to a negative value.
Greetings, Taco


t-lettri.tex
Description: TeX document
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[NTG-context] Problem with \placefigure before \startcolumns

2005-02-28 Thread Michael Gährken
Hi,
I have a problem, when I place a graphic on a page, start columns, 
and use a \chapter in that column. The following code demonstrates 
it. I get the space needed for the graphic in the column, but the 
graphic is already placed above the \startcolumns. Without the 
\chapter the space vanishs.

\starttext
\placefigure[left]{}{\framed[height=2cm]{graphic}}
\input tufte \par
\startcolumns[n=2]
\chapter{}
\dorecurse{4}{\input tufte \par}
\stopcolumns
\stoptext
I use ConTeXt ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2005.2.7 from TeTeX 3.0.
Michael
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Re: [NTG-context] shortcut to TOC page from any page

2005-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
VnPenguin wrote:
Hi,
I would like to make a shortcut to TOC page in my document. The idea
is from any page of the doc when I do this shortcut (keyboard or
mouse) I return to the TOC.
Anyone know if there is a way to do this in ConTeXt ?
all lists automatically generate a reference, so
\goto {contents} [contents]
should work
Hans
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[NTG-context] TeX run : 8 (vs. 2 ?)

2005-02-28 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,
a ConTeXt document that is typeset under WinXP needs 2 runs.
The same document (and the same typescript, map files, font files) 
when typeset under OSX (Gerbens i-installer used) needs 8 runs!!! 
Each time it is typeset!

For the result looks the same I assume it's a kind of bug.
Anybody knows what to do?
Thank you,
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] TeX run : 8 (vs. 2 ?)

2005-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
Hi,
a ConTeXt document that is typeset under WinXP needs 2 runs.
The same document (and the same typescript, map files, font files) when 
typeset under OSX (Gerbens i-installer used) needs 8 runs!!! Each time 
it is typeset!

For the result looks the same I assume it's a kind of bug.
Anybody knows what to do?
weird, is the tui/tuo file changing/writable/etc?
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] shortcut to TOC page from any page

2005-02-28 Thread VnPenguin
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:36:29 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 VnPenguin wrote:
 
  I would like have, if possible, a shortcut keyboard (Ctl-x ?) or mouse
  (double click ?) in order to return to TOC page without additional
  link in every pages.
 
 that's not possible in pdf

oh,
 
So could I use the page number for this link  \goto {contents} [contents] ?
Could you show me how one can add the link into the page number please.

Thank you,
Q.
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[NTG-context] bleeding background

2005-02-28 Thread Piotr Kopszak
Hello, 

What   is  the   most  simple   way  to   obtain  a   bleeding  colour
background?

Thanks in advance

Piotr


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Re: [NTG-context] bleeding background

2005-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Piotr Kopszak wrote:
What   is  the   most  simple   way  to   obtain  a   bleeding  colour
background?
[,backgroundoffset=-3pt]
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Re: [NTG-context] shortcut to TOC page from any page

2005-02-28 Thread VnPenguin
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:17:33 +, VnPenguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:36:29 +0100, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  VnPenguin wrote:
 
   I would like have, if possible, a shortcut keyboard (Ctl-x ?) or mouse
   (double click ?) in order to return to TOC page without additional
   link in every pages.
 
  that's not possible in pdf
 
 oh,
 
 So could I use the page number for this link  \goto {contents} [contents] ?
 Could you show me how one can add the link into the page number please.
 

Found myself :

\def\mypagenum#1{\goto{#1}[tocrefpage]}
\setuppagenumbering
[left={--~},right={~--},command=\mypagenum]

So I'm happy with this solution :)

Thanks Hans  all,

Q.
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RE: [NTG-context] Additional steps taken since the first e-mail

2005-02-28 Thread Mats Broberg
Hans,

OK, and what should I do to remedy this? I am using ConTeXt out of the
box, as it is when you install MikTeX. 

Should I download something else from your site? A more recent
distribution?

My log says: ConTeXt  ver: 2005.01.24

Best regards,
Mats Broberg

On Behalf Of h h extern

  However, when I run the test file, I still get the unknown 
 file type: 
  texmfscripts as the first entry, but the test file seem to be 
  processed anyway. Does this mean I can forget about this warning?
 
 seesm like your tex binaries and context scripts are not in sync;

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Re: [NTG-context] setting up even and odd pages

2005-02-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mari Voipio wrote:
Paul Tremblay wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 10:56:55AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
There are several methods, like:
\setuplayout[left] []
\setuplayout[right][]
this only sets them up (\definelayout is normally used for new ones)
these layouts are set automatically when in doublesided mode
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Re: [NTG-context] Additional steps taken since the first e-mail

2005-02-28 Thread h h extern
Mats Broberg wrote:
Hans,
OK, and what should I do to remedy this? I am using ConTeXt out of the
box, as it is when you install MikTeX. 

Should I download something else from your site? A more recent
distribution?
if things run fine, you can just ignore the message; normally more methods are 
used to locate files

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-28 Thread Mikael Persson
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:54:07 +0100, Mats Broberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear listmembers,
 
 I would say that the risk of getting rivers in text typeset using TeX 
 children is minimum, as long as you choose sensible values for typesize
 and column width. And much, much less than in MS Word, InDesign,
 QuarkXPress etc.
 
 Btw, here are a few 'Typographical Dreams' of mine, regarding ConTeXt:
 
 - Penalty if consecutive lines have the same words typeset exactly above
 each other - e.g. in the beginning of a line, in the middle of the line
 etc. Catches your eye.
 
 - Penalty for a hyphenated word as the last word on a page. And not
 putting it in an \mbox.
 
 - In Swedish, if the last line in a column is the first line in a new
 paragraph, this last line is called simple child of a whore. If the
 first line on a new page is the last line of the preceding page's last
 paragraph, this line is called double child of a whore. Now, in
 InDesign and QuarkXPress you can set the software to move over the
 simple child of a whore to the next page, and, for double child of a
 whore, to move over a few extra lines to the new page. However, this
 leaves you with a page that is one or more lines short. When working in
 these software, you can then slightly, slightly increase the spacing
 between letters on the page (perhaps only a few thousands of an em). If
 you are lucky, one of the preceding paragraph expands just enough for
 its last line move over to a second line, and you're home free. However,
 for book projects hundreds of pages long, this is something you'd want
 to automate. Don't know if it is possible in ConTeXt to automate this,
 but it would be great if it was.
 
 Best regards,
 Mats Broberg
 
 

Hej Mats!

I would like to recommend the interesting document

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/style.pdf

Mvh, Micke P

PS
Fun to see another swede here on the list
DS
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Re: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-28 Thread h h extern
Mats Broberg wrote:
Btw, here are a few 'Typographical Dreams' of mine, regarding ConTeXt:
- Penalty if consecutive lines have the same words typeset exactly above
each other - e.g. in the beginning of a line, in the middle of the line
etc. Catches your eye.
since it has to do with extending tex ... that one is for patrick gundlach
- Penalty for a hyphenated word as the last word on a page. And not
putting it in an \mbox.
hm, the problem with such things is that when tex breaks the page, the paragraph 
is already set; you're looking for some breed between widow/club and 
hyphenpenalties

- In Swedish, if the last line in a column is the first line in a new
paragraph, this last line is called simple child of a whore. If the
first line on a new page is the last line of the preceding page's last
paragraph, this line is called double child of a whore. Now, in
InDesign and QuarkXPress you can set the software to move over the
simple child of a whore to the next page, and, for double child of a
whore, to move over a few extra lines to the new page. However, this
leaves you with a page that is one or more lines short. When working in
these software, you can then slightly, slightly increase the spacing
between letters on the page (perhaps only a few thousands of an em). If
you are lucky, one of the preceding paragraph expands just enough for
its last line move over to a second line, and you're home free. However,
for book projects hundreds of pages long, this is something you'd want
to automate. Don't know if it is possible in ConTeXt to automate this,
but it would be great if it was.
i did play with strategies and strategy passes long ago; strategies could be
- make inter-column spacing a bit bigger/smaller
- make page slightly larger/smaller
- increse/decrease bodyfont size
- etc
the problem is that one can end up in oscillating
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RE: [NTG-context] lack of hyphenation

2005-02-28 Thread Mats Broberg
 Hej Mats!
 
 I would like to recommend the interesting document
 
 http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/style.pdf
 
 Mvh, Micke P
 
 PS
 Fun to see another swede here on the list
 DS

Thanks - I knew about that manual already. 

Best regards,
Mats Broberg

P.S. Likewise...! D.S.

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[NTG-context] controlling blank pages at end of part

2005-02-28 Thread Paul Tremblay
How does one control headers and footers at the end of a part, such as a
chapter?

There are two scenarios I am trying to figure out, one in which the
the blank pages at the end of a part have headers, and one in which they
don't. 

I can't figure out how to do either. Instead, I am getting a mixture of
headers and non headers.

First page in first part.
\page
Second page in first part.
\page

Third page in first part. 

\page[quadruple]


\setuphead[part][header=high, page=right]
\part{}

This gives me two empty (no headers) pages, followed by a page with a
header, followed by the first page in the next part. 

If I replace \page[quadruple] with \page[blank], my last page in the
previous part loses its border.

I can do:

Third page in first part. 
\page

\page[blank]

But then the first page in the next part loses its headers. 

I suppose there is a way to turn the headings off for a page or two?

\page
\setupheader[state=stop]
\part{}
\setupheader[statue=normal]

% this code also does not work!


Thanks

Paul

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