Re: [NTG-context] registered function call [1160]:...live/2023/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-sandbox.lua:87: cannot open /.: Permission denied - Alpine Linux
On Sun, Apr 02, 2023 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 4/1/2023 11:21 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 10:22:49PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> > > On 3/31/2023 10:08 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
> > >
> > > > > sure, why should it, you want lucida so better quit with an error than
> > > > > kicking in some font; actually cmr math fonts have been obsoleted for
> > > > > way
> > > > > over a decade by latin modern math fonts in 32 bit font engines
> > >
> > > Font loading and processing time can be mosty neglected so these 16
> > > seconds
> > > come from something else, maybe there are ways to trace file access.
> > > Another
> > > possibility is that your fonts are not cached in which case every run will
> > > involve parsing the otf / ttf and producing whatever resources needed
> > > (normally cached).
> >
> > interesting. Earlier as the output was showing
> >
> > > mkiv lua stats > loaded patterns: en::1, load time: 0.000
> > > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: lucidabrightregular.otf,
> > > lucidasansregular.otf, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf
> >
> > you asked
> >
> > > so why not use lucida math fonts?
> >
> > which is a valid question but nevertheless unsettling in that
> > lmodern-regular may nat have been called out. I fully understand the
> > inclusion of a latinmodern-math in it as a lucidamath was not previously
> > available but I ponder at the idea and involuntary implementation of
> > having lmroman along the pack. Why? If this is TeX doings, or misdoings
> > (depending how one looks at it), it clearly shows to me that TeX also
> > restricts my freedom to use whatever font I may deem necessary. Don't you
> > think? You can probably disagree with me here, or anyone from the TeX
> > community can, but the roman last was imposed deliberately upon. Someoe may
> > also give a lengthy explanation but that would be just hogwash in thee very
> > end .
>
> The fact that a file is loaded doesn't mean that it is used. In fact there
> is some fallback loading going on because explaining when nothing gets
> typeset or why \nullfont is used which results in missing chars messages is
> a waste of time.
>
> It has nothing to do with restrictions: tex will load any font you want it.
> But for instance when you turn on some tracing the macro package can load a
> font it needs. Indirectly you get what you ask for.
>
You're right about that. My mistake. Somehow monospaced had been previously
defined and I hadn't even noticed it .
I think I got it (sort of) figured for what I want it so far.
The latest stats are
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 5 files: latinmodern-math.otf,
lucidabrightdemiitalic.otf, lucidabrightitalic.otf, lucidabrightregular.otf,
lucidasansregular.otf
mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 17 instances,
10 shared in backend, 3 common vectors, 7 common hashes, load time 0.413
seconds
mkiv lua stats > math tweaking time: 0.162 seconds, 24 math goodie tables
which is pretty much what I was looking for, except the math font issue. Thank
you!
While I was trying to play with it a bit, I noticed a problem with the tfb and
tfc resizing in math mode
The only mention of anything similar happened back in 2009 (but then again this
was with mkii). There may be more similar issues in the list. I just didn't
have the time to look for it.
https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg40224.html
But anyhow, the following did the trick , which I found it convenient really.
But I don't use math mode, although someone else might, it's intuitive, and
does the job
\startmidaligned
$\tfc a + \overbracket{b + c} + \underbracket{d + e} + \doublebracket{f + g} +
h$
\stopmidaligned
\startformula
\int_{\infty}
\stopformula
> I bet you didn't explicitly ask for e.g. english hyphentation patterns
> either but still got them, but tex will happily let you use polish ones
> instead.
>
> Of course the best remedy against any automatism is to just start with
> initex and implement from scratch.
>
> In the above case: just add \type {foo} and you might see another font you
> didn't ask for / set up.
>
> > > > I was actually thinking to ask you about that, and by falling back to
> > > > cmr math font that perhaps would expedite loading time along the way.
> > >
> > > These fonts are small (only huge cjk fonts with tens of thousands of
> > > glyphs
> > > or fonts with hundreds of accumulated features might have some impact but
> > > even then not in the final embedding stage).
> >
> > Yeah. I guess.
> >
> > I can also have
> >
> > mkiv lua stats > loaded patterns: en::1, load time: 0.000
> > mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 3 files: lucidabrightmathsymbol.ttf,
> > lucidanewmathitalic.ttf, lucidabrightregular.otf
> > mkiv lua stats > font engine: otf 3.133, afm 1.513, tfm 1.000, 6
> > instances, 3 shared in backend, 1 common
Re: [NTG-context] How to use noto sans math font?
Hi,
No intend to be complete or so (not by computer either, so could not look
into it), it was just for a test a while back. But it could serve as a
start.
/Mikael
Den ons 5 apr. 2023 12:07Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context
skrev:
> Hi,
>
> I try to use the Noto Sans Math fnt which can be downloaded from
> https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Sans+Math
>
> But I use it like the following
>
> \definefontfamily[myfonts][rm][latin modern roman]
> \definefontfamily[myfonts][mm][noto sans math]
> \setupbodyfont[myfonts,rm,12pt]
> \starttext
> Test Noto Sasn Math Fonts
> \startformula
> a^2 \quad \sqrt{a}
> \stopformula
> \stoptext
>
> I get the errors `Math error: parameter 'supshiftup' with id 51 in style 0
> is not set'.
>
> Is there some method to solve it?
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Li Yanrui
>
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[NTG-context] How to use noto sans math font?
Hi,
I try to use the Noto Sans Math fnt which can be downloaded from
https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Sans+Math
But I use it like the following
\definefontfamily[myfonts][rm][latin modern roman]
\definefontfamily[myfonts][mm][noto sans math]
\setupbodyfont[myfonts,rm,12pt]
\starttext
Test Noto Sasn Math Fonts
\startformula
a^2 \quad \sqrt{a}
\stopformula
\stoptext
I get the errors `Math error: parameter 'supshiftup' with id 51 in style 0
is not set'.
Is there some method to solve it?
--
Best regards,
Li Yanrui
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Re: [NTG-context] How to use noto sans math font?
Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context 于2023年4月5日周三 18:26写道： > Hi, > > No intend to be complete or so (not by computer either, so could not look > into it), it was just for a test a while back. But it could serve as a > start. > > /Mikael > Hi Mikael, Thanks for your reply. I used the typescript you provided but still get the error as below Math error: parameter 'supshiftup' with id 51 in style 2 is not set -- Best regards, Li Yanrui ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to use noto sans math font?
Hi, On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 2:56 AM Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context wrote: > > > > Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context 于2023年4月5日周三 18:26写道： >> >> Hi, >> >> No intend to be complete or so (not by computer either, so could not look >> into it), it was just for a test a while back. But it could serve as a start. >> >> /Mikael > > > Hi Mikael, > > Thanks for your reply. I used the typescript you provided but still get the > error as below > > Math error: parameter 'supshiftup' with id 51 in style 2 is not set OK. I see the link to google fonts above. I am not sure they have the latest version. There were lots of fixes in this font recently (in particular I think a math table was added, so that the font really is identified as a math font, but I might be wrong about that). The one I used was downloaded from https://github.com/notofonts/math/releases/tag/NotoSansMath-v2.539 and that still seems to be the latest. I now compiled my file again, and still no error here. /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to use noto sans math font?
Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context 于2023年4月6日周四 13:00写道： > Hi, > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 2:56 AM Li Yanrui (李延瑞) via ntg-context > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context 于2023年4月5日周三 > 18:26写道： > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> No intend to be complete or so (not by computer either, so could not > look into it), it was just for a test a while back. But it could serve as a > start. > >> > >> /Mikael > > > > > > Hi Mikael, > > > > Thanks for your reply. I used the typescript you provided but still get > the error as below > > > > Math error: parameter 'supshiftup' with id 51 in style 2 is not set > > OK. I see the link to google fonts above. I am not sure they have the > latest version. There were lots of fixes in this font recently (in > particular I think a math table was added, so that the font really is > identified as a math font, but I might be wrong about that). The one I > used was downloaded from > That font is indeed not the latest. I use the font you provided and no problem now. Thank you very much! -- Best regards, Li Yanrui ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
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