Re: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
If you have an idea what what IP or IP range the CE machines will connect from, you can set IMS to deny relay to all but those adresses. I do this with my mobile OmniSky/PPC users so they don't have to send through the OmniSky SMTP server. --Colin > > > > > you can push outgoing mail to your ISP's relay > > > > mail..net > > > > instead of your exchange server. > > > > receive mail at exchange, send mail throu ISP. > > > > just a thought. (and that's what we do with outlook 2k on win2k) > > > > Dan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio > etc.) > > to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all > > on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other > words, > > this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. > > > > > > This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP > > authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change > > SMTP port# from default 25. > > > > Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that > there > > is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... > > > > Jay > > __ > > Jay Kulsh > > CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA > > > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > > This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not > > waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying > > of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended > > recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please > > advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > > > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not > waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying > of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended > recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please > advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
one thing we had problems with was keeping global address list updated. had to do an export ->download ->import and it's funky sometimes. I think that's a limitation of outlook internet mail version. Don't know about the CE version. Dan Words to live by: "If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking." - General George S. Patton "Change your thoughts and you change your world." - Norman Vincent Peale "Anyone who isn't thoroughly confused isn't thinking clearly." - Clare Booth Luce -Original Message- From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 5:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... Thanks Dan, We are going to try your suggestion and would let you know if it works. It might. BTW, I do not think it matters whether you are using POP3 or IMAP for this setting. Jay Jay Kulsh - Original Message - From: "Miley, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:03 AM Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... > > you can push outgoing mail to your ISP's relay > > mail..net > > instead of your exchange server. > > receive mail at exchange, send mail throu ISP. > > just a thought. (and that's what we do with outlook 2k on win2k) > > Dan > > -Original Message- > From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... > > > Hi folks, > > I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio etc.) > to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all > on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other words, > this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. > > > This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP > authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change > SMTP port# from default 25. > > Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that there > is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... > > Jay > __ > Jay Kulsh > CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not > waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying > of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended > recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please > advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
Tom, None of these things could work in our situation. Users use different ISP to connect to Internet so their assigned IPs do not fall in any set range. Dialup would be very expensive since users are all over the country. VPN is also not in the picture. Thanks for input. Jay ___ Jay Kulsh - Original Message - From: "Tom Cass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:13 AM Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... > There are other methods you can use restrict relaying without > authentication. You can allow by host IP. If using VPN or dialup to > internal RAS connections you can allow relaying from Only the internal > network. > > > Tom > > -Original Message- > From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... > > Hi folks, > > I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio etc.) > to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all > on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other words, > this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. > > > This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP > authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change > SMTP port# from default 25. > > Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that there > is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... > > Jay > __ > Jay Kulsh > CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
Thanks Dan, We are going to try your suggestion and would let you know if it works. It might. BTW, I do not think it matters whether you are using POP3 or IMAP for this setting. Jay Jay Kulsh - Original Message - From: "Miley, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:03 AM Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... > > you can push outgoing mail to your ISP's relay > > mail..net > > instead of your exchange server. > > receive mail at exchange, send mail throu ISP. > > just a thought. (and that's what we do with outlook 2k on win2k) > > Dan > > -Original Message- > From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... > > > Hi folks, > > I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio etc.) > to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all > on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other words, > this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. > > > This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP > authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change > SMTP port# from default 25. > > Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that there > is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... > > Jay > __ > Jay Kulsh > CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not > waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying > of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended > recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please > advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
What if you don't have an ISP relay? "Miley, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/21/2001 10:03:25 AM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: NT System Admin Issues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... you can push outgoing mail to your ISP's relay mail..net instead of your exchange server. receive mail at exchange, send mail throu ISP. just a thought. (and that's what we do with outlook 2k on win2k) Dan -Original Message- From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... Hi folks, I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio etc.) to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other words, this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change SMTP port# from default 25. Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that there is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... Jay __ Jay Kulsh CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
oh, man replying to my own e-mail :( we use IMAP to receive not pop3 sorry. Dan -Original Message- From: Miley, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... you can push outgoing mail to your ISP's relay mail..net instead of your exchange server. receive mail at exchange, send mail throu ISP. just a thought. (and that's what we do with outlook 2k on win2k) Dan -Original Message- From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... Hi folks, I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio etc.) to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other words, this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change SMTP port# from default 25. Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that there is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... Jay __ Jay Kulsh CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
There are other methods you can use restrict relaying without authentication. You can allow by host IP. If using VPN or dialup to internal RAS connections you can allow relaying from Only the internal network. Tom -Original Message- From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... Hi folks, I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio etc.) to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other words, this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change SMTP port# from default 25. Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that there is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... Jay __ Jay Kulsh CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong...
you can push outgoing mail to your ISP's relay mail..net instead of your exchange server. receive mail at exchange, send mail throu ISP. just a thought. (and that's what we do with outlook 2k on win2k) Dan -Original Message- From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows CE - Tell me I am wrong... Hi folks, I think if you use POP3 client on Windows CE machines (Tripad and Clio etc.) to connect to Exchange 5.5, you would have to leave SMTP relay open-to-all on Exchange server, otherwise users can not send out emails. In other words, this Exchange server is open to abuse by spammers. This is so because Windows CE does not have a settings for SMTP authentication on its POP3 client. It does not even have setting to change SMTP port# from default 25. Tell me I am wrong... tell me I am ignorant. Better yet, tell me that there is a workaround for this. If not, tell me I am right and make me sad... Jay __ Jay Kulsh CCNA, MCSE+I, CCA http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
