Re: [Numpy-discussion] Numpy SVN frozen; move to Git

2010-09-18 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote:


 Numpy SVN repository is now frozen, and does not accept new commits.
 Future development should end up in the Git repository:

    http://github.com/numpy/numpy

Joining my voice to the collective thank you, I figured I'd pass along
something I stumbled upon just now as I was reading on github's new
(massively improved) pull requests; a nice description of branch
management using git for a real-world scenario with
release/development branches, etc:

http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/

None of it is a new idea, but it's very nicely and concisely explained.

Regards,

f
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[Numpy-discussion] Financial TS models

2010-09-18 Thread Virgil Stokes
  I am considering the development of an all Python package (with numpy and 
matplotlib) for the modeling and analysis of financial time series.

This is a rather ambitious and could take sometime before I can have something 
that is useful.  Thus, any suggestions, pointers, etc. to related work would be 
appreciated.

Thank you,
--V
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Financial TS models

2010-09-18 Thread josef . pktd
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Virgil Stokes v...@it.uu.se wrote:
  I am considering the development of an all Python package (with numpy and
 matplotlib) for the modeling and analysis of financial time series.

 This is a rather ambitious and could take sometime before I can have something
 that is useful.  Thus, any suggestions, pointers, etc. to related work would 
 be
 appreciated.

Depends on what you want to do, but I would join or build on top of an
existing package.

I just got distracted with an extended internet search after finding

http://github.com/quantmind/dynts

(They use Redis as an in-memory and persistent storage. After reading
up a bit, I think this might be useful if you have a web front end
http://github.com/lsbardel/jflow in mind, but maybe not as good as
hdf5 for desktop work. Just guessing since I used neither, and I
always worry about installation problems on Windows.)
They just started public development but all packages are in BSD from
what I have seen.

Otherwise, I would build on top of pandas, scikits.timeseries or larry
or tabular if you want to handle your own time variable.

For specific financial time series, e.g. stocks, exchange rates,
options, I have seen only bits and pieces, or only partially
implemented code (with a BSD compatible license), outside of quantlib
and it's python bindings.

Maybe someone knows more about what's available.

For the econometrics/statistical analysis I haven't seen much outside
of pandas and statsmodels in this area (besides isolated examples and
recipes). I started to write on this in the statsmodels sandbox
(including simulators).

 modeling and analysis of financial time series is a big project,
and to get any results within a reasonable amount of time (unless you
are part of a large team) is to specialize on some pieces.

This is just my impression, since I thought of doing the same thing,
but didn't see any way to get very far.

(I just spend some weekends just to get the data from the Federal
Reserve and wrap the API for the economics data base (Fred) of the
Federal Reserve Saint Louis, the boring storage backend is zipped
csv-files)

Josef


 Thank you,
 --V
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Financial TS models

2010-09-18 Thread josef . pktd
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:13 AM,  josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Virgil Stokes v...@it.uu.se wrote:
  I am considering the development of an all Python package (with numpy and
 matplotlib) for the modeling and analysis of financial time series.

 This is a rather ambitious and could take sometime before I can have 
 something
 that is useful.  Thus, any suggestions, pointers, etc. to related work would 
 be
 appreciated.

I should have just asked you:   What do you have in mind?
instead of writing my notes from the readings I just did into the email.

I think any open source contributions in this area will be very useful
with the increased popularity of python in Finance.

Josef



 Depends on what you want to do, but I would join or build on top of an
 existing package.

 I just got distracted with an extended internet search after finding

 http://github.com/quantmind/dynts

 (They use Redis as an in-memory and persistent storage. After reading
 up a bit, I think this might be useful if you have a web front end
 http://github.com/lsbardel/jflow in mind, but maybe not as good as
 hdf5 for desktop work. Just guessing since I used neither, and I
 always worry about installation problems on Windows.)
 They just started public development but all packages are in BSD from
 what I have seen.

 Otherwise, I would build on top of pandas, scikits.timeseries or larry
 or tabular if you want to handle your own time variable.

 For specific financial time series, e.g. stocks, exchange rates,
 options, I have seen only bits and pieces, or only partially
 implemented code (with a BSD compatible license), outside of quantlib
 and it's python bindings.

 Maybe someone knows more about what's available.

 For the econometrics/statistical analysis I haven't seen much outside
 of pandas and statsmodels in this area (besides isolated examples and
 recipes). I started to write on this in the statsmodels sandbox
 (including simulators).

  modeling and analysis of financial time series is a big project,
 and to get any results within a reasonable amount of time (unless you
 are part of a large team) is to specialize on some pieces.

 This is just my impression, since I thought of doing the same thing,
 but didn't see any way to get very far.

 (I just spend some weekends just to get the data from the Federal
 Reserve and wrap the API for the economics data base (Fred) of the
 Federal Reserve Saint Louis, the boring storage backend is zipped
 csv-files)

 Josef


 Thank you,
 --V
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Numpy SVN frozen; move to Git

2010-09-18 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Fernando Perez fperez@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote:
 
 
  Numpy SVN repository is now frozen, and does not accept new commits.
  Future development should end up in the Git repository:
 
 http://github.com/numpy/numpy

 Joining my voice to the collective thank you, I figured I'd pass along
 something I stumbled upon just now as I was reading on github's new
 (massively improved) pull requests; a nice description of branch
 management using git for a real-world scenario with
 release/development branches, etc:

 http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/

 None of it is a new idea, but it's very nicely and concisely explained.


But the vim post was the best thing at the site ;) I've now got pathogen and
snipmate in my .vim folder.

Chuck
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Financial TS models

2010-09-18 Thread Wes McKinney
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:33 AM,  josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:13 AM,  josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Virgil Stokes v...@it.uu.se wrote:
  I am considering the development of an all Python package (with numpy and
 matplotlib) for the modeling and analysis of financial time series.

 This is a rather ambitious and could take sometime before I can have 
 something
 that is useful.  Thus, any suggestions, pointers, etc. to related work 
 would be
 appreciated.

 I should have just asked you:   What do you have in mind?
 instead of writing my notes from the readings I just did into the email.

 I think any open source contributions in this area will be very useful
 with the increased popularity of python in Finance.

 Josef



 Depends on what you want to do, but I would join or build on top of an
 existing package.

 I just got distracted with an extended internet search after finding

 http://github.com/quantmind/dynts

 (They use Redis as an in-memory and persistent storage. After reading
 up a bit, I think this might be useful if you have a web front end
 http://github.com/lsbardel/jflow in mind, but maybe not as good as
 hdf5 for desktop work. Just guessing since I used neither, and I
 always worry about installation problems on Windows.)
 They just started public development but all packages are in BSD from
 what I have seen.

 Otherwise, I would build on top of pandas, scikits.timeseries or larry
 or tabular if you want to handle your own time variable.

 For specific financial time series, e.g. stocks, exchange rates,
 options, I have seen only bits and pieces, or only partially
 implemented code (with a BSD compatible license), outside of quantlib
 and it's python bindings.

 Maybe someone knows more about what's available.

 For the econometrics/statistical analysis I haven't seen much outside
 of pandas and statsmodels in this area (besides isolated examples and
 recipes). I started to write on this in the statsmodels sandbox
 (including simulators).

  modeling and analysis of financial time series is a big project,
 and to get any results within a reasonable amount of time (unless you
 are part of a large team) is to specialize on some pieces.

 This is just my impression, since I thought of doing the same thing,
 but didn't see any way to get very far.

 (I just spend some weekends just to get the data from the Federal
 Reserve and wrap the API for the economics data base (Fred) of the
 Federal Reserve Saint Louis, the boring storage backend is zipped
 csv-files)

 Josef


 Thank you,
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I'm also interested as well what you might have in mind. For
econometric models, the place to start (and perhaps contribute) would
definitely be statsmodels. For other models it depends. Over the next
year or so I plan to be working as often as I can on implementing time
series models either inside statsmodels (with a pandas interface so
you can carry around metadata) or inside pandas itself (which is not
necessarily intended for financial applications, but that's what I've
used it for). I'm interested in both standard econometric models (see
e.g. Lütkepohl's 2006 time series book) and Bayesian time series
models.

- Wes
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