Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
Le 08/04/2015 21:19, Yuxiang Wang a écrit : I think spyder supports code highlighting in C and that's all... There's no way to compile in Spyder, is there? Well, you could write a compilation script using Scons and run it from spyder ! :) But no, spyder is very python-oriented and there is no way to compile C in spyder. For information the next version should have a better support for plugins so it could be done as a third-party extension. Joseph ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
Spyder supports C. Thanks for correcting this. I wasn't aware of it. How was your experience with it? Best, -m ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
I think spyder supports code highlighting in C and that's all... There's no way to compile in Spyder, is there? Shawn On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Suzen, Mehmet msu...@gmail.com wrote: Spyder supports C. Thanks for correcting this. I wasn't aware of it. How was your experience with it? Best, -m ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion -- Yuxiang Shawn Wang Gerling Research Lab University of Virginia yw...@virginia.edu +1 (434) 284-0836 https://sites.google.com/a/virginia.edu/yw5aj/ ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
Hi Chuck, Spider is good. If you are coming from Matlab world. http://spyder-ide.blogspot.co.uk/ I don't think it supports C. But Maybe you are after Eclipse. Best, -m ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
On 06/04/15 20:33, Suzen, Mehmet wrote: Hi Chuck, Spider is good. If you are coming from Matlab world. http://spyder-ide.blogspot.co.uk/ I don't think it supports C. But Maybe you are after Eclipse. Spyder supports C. Sturla ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:46 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote: Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? I guess we could include project files for Visual Studio (and perhaps Eclipse?), like Python does. But then we would need to make sure the different build systems are kept in sync, and it will be a PITA for those who do not use Windows and Visual Studio. It is already bad enough with Distutils and Bento. I, for one, would really prefer if there only was one build process to care about. One should also note that a Visual Studio project is the only supported build process for Python on Windows. So they are not using this in addition to something else. Eclipse is better than Visual Studio for mixed Python and C development. It is also cross-platform. cmake needs to be mentioned too. It is not fully integrated with Visual Studio, but better than having multiple build processes. Mark chose cmake for DyND because it supported Visual Studio projects. OTOH, he said it was a PITA to program. I concur on that: For the 350+ packages we support at Enthought, cmake has been a higher pain point than any other build tool (that is including custom ones). And we only support mainstream platforms. But the real question for me is what does visual studio support mean ? Does it really mean solution files ? I have no useful experience with Visual Studio, so don't really know, but solution files sounds like a step in the right direction. What do solution files provide? Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote: Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? I guess we could include project files for Visual Studio (and perhaps Eclipse?), like Python does. But then we would need to make sure the different build systems are kept in sync, and it will be a PITA for those who do not use Windows and Visual Studio. It is already bad enough with Distutils and Bento. I, for one, would really prefer if there only was one build process to care about. One should also note that a Visual Studio project is the only supported build process for Python on Windows. So they are not using this in addition to something else. Eclipse is better than Visual Studio for mixed Python and C development. It is also cross-platform. cmake needs to be mentioned too. It is not fully integrated with Visual Studio, but better than having multiple build processes. Mark chose cmake for DyND because it supported Visual Studio projects. OTOH, he said it was a PITA to program. I concur on that: For the 350+ packages we support at Enthought, cmake has been a higher pain point than any other build tool (that is including custom ones). And we only support mainstream platforms. But the real question for me is what does visual studio support mean ? Does it really mean solution files ? David ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
[Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
Hi All, In a recent exchange Mark Wiebe suggested that the lack of support for numpy development in Visual Studio might limit the number of developers attracted to the project. I'm a vim/console developer myself and make no claim of familiarity with modern development tools, but I wonder if such tools might now be available for Numpy. A quick google search turns up a beta plugin for Visual Studio, https://pytools.codeplex.com/, and there is an xcode IDE for the mac that apparently offers some Python support. The two things that I think are required are: 1) support for mixed C, python developement and 2) support for building and testing numpy. I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
mixed C and python development? I would just wait for the Jupyter folks to create IC and maybe even IC++! On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, In a recent exchange Mark Wiebe suggested that the lack of support for numpy development in Visual Studio might limit the number of developers attracted to the project. I'm a vim/console developer myself and make no claim of familiarity with modern development tools, but I wonder if such tools might now be available for Numpy. A quick google search turns up a beta plugin for Visual Studio, https://pytools.codeplex.com/, and there is an xcode IDE for the mac that apparently offers some Python support. The two things that I think are required are: 1) support for mixed C, python developement and 2) support for building and testing numpy. I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
That would really be hilarious - and IFortran probably! :) Shawn On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote: mixed C and python development? I would just wait for the Jupyter folks to create IC and maybe even IC++! On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, In a recent exchange Mark Wiebe suggested that the lack of support for numpy development in Visual Studio might limit the number of developers attracted to the project. I'm a vim/console developer myself and make no claim of familiarity with modern development tools, but I wonder if such tools might now be available for Numpy. A quick google search turns up a beta plugin for Visual Studio,, and there is an xcode IDE for the mac that apparently offers some Python support. The two things that I think are required are: 1) support for mixed C, python developement and 2) support for building and testing numpy. I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion -- Yuxiang Shawn Wang Gerling Research Lab University of Virginia yw...@virginia.edu +1 (434) 284-0836 https://sites.google.com/a/virginia.edu/yw5aj/ ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, In a recent exchange Mark Wiebe suggested that the lack of support for numpy development in Visual Studio might limit the number of developers attracted to the project. I'm a vim/console developer myself and make no claim of familiarity with modern development tools, but I wonder if such tools might now be available for Numpy. A quick google search turns up a beta plugin for Visual Studio,, and there is an xcode IDE for the mac that apparently offers some Python support. The two things that I think are required are: 1) support for mixed C, python developement and 2) support for building and testing numpy. I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? I have no experience with the C/C++ part, but I'm using the C/C++ version of Eclipse with PyDev. It should have all the extra features available, but I don't use them and don't have compiler, debugger and so on for C/C++ connected to Eclipse. It looks like it supports Visual C++ and MingW GCC toolchain. (I'm not sure the same project can be a C/C++ and a PyDev project at the same time.) Josef Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
The PTVS can debug into native code. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:21 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, In a recent exchange Mark Wiebe suggested that the lack of support for numpy development in Visual Studio might limit the number of developers attracted to the project. I'm a vim/console developer myself and make no claim of familiarity with modern development tools, but I wonder if such tools might now be available for Numpy. A quick google search turns up a beta plugin for Visual Studio,, and there is an xcode IDE for the mac that apparently offers some Python support. The two things that I think are required are: 1) support for mixed C, python developement and 2) support for building and testing numpy. I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? I have no experience with the C/C++ part, but I'm using the C/C++ version of Eclipse with PyDev. It should have all the extra features available, but I don't use them and don't have compiler, debugger and so on for C/C++ connected to Eclipse. It looks like it supports Visual C++ and MingW GCC toolchain. (I'm not sure the same project can be a C/C++ and a PyDev project at the same time.) Josef Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? I guess we could include project files for Visual Studio (and perhaps Eclipse?), like Python does. But then we would need to make sure the different build systems are kept in sync, and it will be a PITA for those who do not use Windows and Visual Studio. It is already bad enough with Distutils and Bento. I, for one, would really prefer if there only was one build process to care about. One should also note that a Visual Studio project is the only supported build process for Python on Windows. So they are not using this in addition to something else. Eclipse is better than Visual Studio for mixed Python and C development. It is also cross-platform. cmake needs to be mentioned too. It is not fully integrated with Visual Studio, but better than having multiple build processes. But still, there is nothing that prevents the use of Visual Studio as a glorified text editor. Sturla ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
Sorry for the OT and top-posting but, It reminds me of ITex (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKaI78K_rgA) ... On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Yuxiang Wang yw...@virginia.edu wrote: That would really be hilarious - and IFortran probably! :) Shawn On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote: mixed C and python development? I would just wait for the Jupyter folks to create IC and maybe even IC++! On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, In a recent exchange Mark Wiebe suggested that the lack of support for numpy development in Visual Studio might limit the number of developers attracted to the project. I'm a vim/console developer myself and make no claim of familiarity with modern development tools, but I wonder if such tools might now be available for Numpy. A quick google search turns up a beta plugin for Visual Studio,, and there is an xcode IDE for the mac that apparently offers some Python support. The two things that I think are required are: 1) support for mixed C, python developement and 2) support for building and testing numpy. I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion -- Yuxiang Shawn Wang Gerling Research Lab University of Virginia yw...@virginia.edu +1 (434) 284-0836 https://sites.google.com/a/virginia.edu/yw5aj/ ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] IDE's for numpy development?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote: Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in information from anyone with experience in using such an IDE and ideas of how Numpy might make using some of the common IDEs easier. Thoughts? I guess we could include project files for Visual Studio (and perhaps Eclipse?), like Python does. But then we would need to make sure the different build systems are kept in sync, and it will be a PITA for those who do not use Windows and Visual Studio. It is already bad enough with Distutils and Bento. I, for one, would really prefer if there only was one build process to care about. One should also note that a Visual Studio project is the only supported build process for Python on Windows. So they are not using this in addition to something else. Eclipse is better than Visual Studio for mixed Python and C development. It is also cross-platform. cmake needs to be mentioned too. It is not fully integrated with Visual Studio, but better than having multiple build processes. Mark chose cmake for DyND because it supported Visual Studio projects. OTOH, he said it was a PITA to program. Chuck ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
