Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-20 Thread Christopher Barker
David Cournapeau wrote:
 Christopher, would you mind trying the following binary ?
 
 http://www.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp/members/david/archives/numpy/scipy-0.7.0-py2.5-macosx10.5.mpkg.tar

That binary seems to be working OK on my  PPC 10.4 mac, with no gfortran 
installed.

Is it up on the main site yet?

Thanks for all  your work on this,

-CHB


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Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-14 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote:


 ATM, I am dealing with a third one: scipy.test() crashes right away
 when importing scipy.cluster

Ok, ended up being a problem with incompatible matplotlib imported by
scipy.cluster, and specific to my machine. Anyway, problem solved.

Christopher, would you mind trying the following binary ?

http://www.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp/members/david/archives/numpy/scipy-0.7.0-py2.5-macosx10.5.mpkg.tar

It should solve both universal build and statically linking gfortran issues,

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[Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-10 Thread John Seales

Intel mac.
Python 2.6.

I'm trying to start using numpy and scipy, and am having trouble.

I'm trying to install numpy following the instructions on 
http://scipy.org/Installing_SciPy/Mac_OS_X .

when I give the python setup.py build command, it doesn't work. Here's my 
interaction at the terminal:

john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy
 johnseales$ python setup.py build

This is the wrong setup.py file to run
john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy
 

Anybody have any ideas how I can get up and runnng?



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Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-10 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:30 AM, John Seales praxbaf...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Intel mac.
 Python 2.6.

 I'm trying to start using numpy and scipy, and am having trouble.

 I'm trying to install numpy following the instructions on
 http://scipy.org/Installing_SciPy/Mac_OS_X .

 when I give the python setup.py build command, it doesn't work. Here's my
 interaction at the terminal:

 john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy
 johnseales$ python setup.py build

 This is the wrong setup.py file to run
 john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy

 Anybody have any ideas how I can get up and runnng?

nothing :) It looks like you have already installed numpy
(site-packages is the directory where all python packages like numpy
get installed by default).

You just have to run the python interpreter, and import numpy. That
is, if you can do:

python -c import numpy

It means you have numpy installed.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-10 Thread Zachary Pincus
Hi John,

First, did you build your own Python 2.6 or install from a binary?  
When you type python at the command prompt, which python runs? (You  
can find this out by running which python from the command line.)

Second, it appears that numpy is *already installed* for a non-apple  
python 2.5 on your computer. (Either you manually built that python,  
or installed it from an installer, and then you built or installed  
numpy for that python?) I can tell this because you have a directory:

/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site- 
packages/numpy

which normally gets created during the process of installing numpy for  
Python 2.5. Unless you manually created this directory yourself  
somehow? Anyhow, that directory is *not* the source-code directory  
that you should be running numpy's setup.py from; it is the directory  
that the installation process for numpy copies all of the necessary  
files into!

Anyhow, how did you come to be executing commands from that directory?  
The numpy install instructions definitely don't have a cd /Library/ 
Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/ 
numpy step...

So, if you want to use numpy with python 2.5, you should be all set  
already. If you need to use it with 2.6, then you will want to  
download the source code into a directory somewhere -- say in your  
home folder. Then execute python setup.py install from *this*  
directory. (Note: if typing python does not run python 2.6, but  
instead runs python 2.5, you will want to do python2.6 setup.py  
install...

Feel free to ask any more questions -- I'm heading out the door, so  
this might be a bit terse.

Zach


On Apr 10, 2009, at 1:30 PM, John Seales wrote:

 Intel mac.
 Python 2.6.

 I'm trying to start using numpy and scipy, and am having trouble.

 I'm trying to install numpy following the instructions on 
 http://scipy.org/Installing_SciPy/Mac_OS_X 
  .

 when I give the python setup.py build command, it doesn't work.  
 Here's my interaction at the terminal:

 john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/ 
 2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy johnseales$ python setup.py  
 build

 This is the wrong setup.py file to run
 john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/ 
 2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy

 Anybody have any ideas how I can get up and runnng?



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Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-10 Thread John Seales

loading the numpy or scipy module doesn't work, whether I do it at the terminal 
command line or at the python interpreter.

Anyone know what else might be wrong?


 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:10:07 +0900
 From: courn...@gmail.com
 To: numpy-discussion@scipy.org
 Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started
 
 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:30 AM, John Seales praxbaf...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Intel mac.
  Python 2.6.
 
  I'm trying to start using numpy and scipy, and am having trouble.
 
  I'm trying to install numpy following the instructions on
  http://scipy.org/Installing_SciPy/Mac_OS_X .
 
  when I give the python setup.py build command, it doesn't work. Here's my
  interaction at the terminal:
 
  john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy
  johnseales$ python setup.py build
 
  This is the wrong setup.py file to run
  john-seales-computer:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/numpy
 
  Anybody have any ideas how I can get up and runnng?
 
 nothing :) It looks like you have already installed numpy
 (site-packages is the directory where all python packages like numpy
 get installed by default).
 
 You just have to run the python interpreter, and import numpy. That
 is, if you can do:
 
 python -c import numpy
 
 It means you have numpy installed.
 
 David
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-10 Thread Christopher Barker
John Seales wrote:
 loading the numpy or scipy module doesn't work, whether I do it at the 
 terminal command line or at the python interpreter.
 
 Anyone know what else might be wrong?

we're going to have to know a lot more about what you've done so far, but;

a) unless you have a strong reason to use Python2.6, I'd use 2.5:
   - install the python 2.5 form the python,org web site (it looks like 
you have done this
   - install the binary for numpy for python 2.5:
 
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1369package_id=175103

You're done.

b) if you really need 2.6, you'll have to build numpy yourself:

   - Install the binary of Python2.6 from the python web site
   - make sure that's the one you get when you type python:
  . which python may help here
  .  If it's not, edit your .bash_profile to get it on your PATH.
   - download the source tarball for numpy
  . unpack it into somewhere in your home directory
   - Make sure you have the Apple development tools: XCodeTools
   - cd into the numpy dir, and type:
 $ python setup.py build
 $ python setup.py install

   - run python, and type import numpy

Last I checked, the binary for ScipPy was broken, you'll need to get 
gfortran and compile it yourself, as the page tells you.

-Chris


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Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-10 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Christopher Barker
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:


 Last I checked, the binary for ScipPy was broken, you'll need to get
 gfortran and compile it yourself, as the page tells you.

This should really be fixed, it is not acceptable to have a broken
binary. I will generate a new one,

David
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] help getting started

2009-04-10 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Christopher Barker
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
 David Cournapeau wrote:
 chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
 Last I checked, the binary for ScipPy was broken, you'll need to get
 gfortran and compile it yourself, as the page tells you.

 This should really be fixed, it is not acceptable to have a broken
 binary. I will generate a new one,

 That would be great. IIRC, there were two issues: one was intel-only
 binaries generated by gfortran, and the other was libgfortran missing.

ATM, I am dealing with a third one: scipy.test() crashes right away
when importing scipy.cluster :(


 By the way, how id you end up building the new numpy binary? Any good
 ideas on the virtualenv issues?

I solved it the most expedient way for now: hardcoding the python
interpreter to use, and building from scratch,

David
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