Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-24 Thread Richard Hattersley
On 23 September 2013 18:03, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric
 packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now or
 never...


I know I always like to get feedback either way ... so +1 for removal.
Thanks.
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-24 Thread Peter Cock
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Charles R Harris
charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Charles R Harris wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Peter Cock wrote:

 Hi Chuck,

 Could you clarify how we'd know if this is a problem in a large package?
 i.e. Is it just Python imports I need to double check, or also C level?


 Just Python level unless you are calling python from C. The packages are
 not normally imported, so you should be able to just grep through. You could
 also apply the patch and see what happens. That might be the best test.

 I take that back. There is a _capi.c and include files for numarray.

 Chuck

Thanks - I just ran our test suite against numpy compiled from
that commit: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/3638

We seem to be OK, so I have no objection to removing this.

Peter
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-23 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Derek Homeier 
de...@astro.physik.uni-goettingen.de wrote:

 On 23.09.2013, at 7:03PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric
 packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now or
 never...

 The only thing I'd care about is the nd_image subpackage, but as far as I
 can see, that's already
 just a wrapper to import scipy.ndimage. I take it there are no pure numpy
 implementations for
 the likes of map_coordinates, right?


As far as I know, that is correct.

Chuck
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-23 Thread Derek Homeier
On 23.09.2013, at 7:03PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric 
 packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now or 
 never...

The only thing I'd care about is the nd_image subpackage, but as far as I can 
see, that's already
just a wrapper to import scipy.ndimage. I take it there are no pure numpy 
implementations for
the likes of map_coordinates, right?

Cheers,
Derek

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-23 Thread Perry Greenfield
We at STScI have no objection. If we have any residual dependencies, we'll then 
find out and fix them.

Perry

On Sep 23, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Charles R Harris wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric 
 packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now or 
 never...
 
 Chuck
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-23 Thread Peter Cock
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Charles R Harris
charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric
 packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now or
 never...

 Chuck

Hi Chuck,

Could you clarify how we'd know if this is a problem in a large package?
i.e. Is it just Python imports I need to double check, or also C level?

Thanks!

Peter
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-23 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Peter Cock p.j.a.c...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Charles R Harris
 charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric
  packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now or
  never...
 
  Chuck

 Hi Chuck,

 Could you clarify how we'd know if this is a problem in a large package?
 i.e. Is it just Python imports I need to double check, or also C level?


Just Python level unless you are calling python from C. The packages are
not normally imported, so you should be able to just grep through. You
could also apply the patch https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/3638 and
see what happens. That might be the best test.

Chuck
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-23 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com
 wrote:




 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Peter Cock p.j.a.c...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Charles R Harris
 charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric
  packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now
 or
  never...
 
  Chuck

 Hi Chuck,

 Could you clarify how we'd know if this is a problem in a large package?
 i.e. Is it just Python imports I need to double check, or also C level?


 Just Python level unless you are calling python from C. The packages are
 not normally imported, so you should be able to just grep through. You
 could also apply the patch https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/3638 and
 see what happens. That might be the best test.


Also, the 1.8 release, when it comes, should issue a
ModuleDeprecationWarning warning when the packages are imported.

Chuck
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removal of numarray and oldnumeric packages.

2013-09-23 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com
 wrote:




 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Peter Cock p.j.a.c...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Charles R Harris
 charlesr.har...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have gotten no feedback on the removal of the numarray and oldnumeric
  packages. Consequently the removal will take place on 9/28. Scream now
 or
  never...
 
  Chuck

 Hi Chuck,

 Could you clarify how we'd know if this is a problem in a large package?
 i.e. Is it just Python imports I need to double check, or also C level?


 Just Python level unless you are calling python from C. The packages are
 not normally imported, so you should be able to just grep through. You
 could also apply the patch https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/3638 and
 see what happens. That might be the best test.


I take that back. There is a _capi.c and include files for numarray.

Chuck
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