Re: [Numpy-discussion] (Late) summary of PEP-225 discussion at Scipy

2008-10-27 Thread James Philbin
One operator which could be used is '%'. We could keep the current
behaviour for ARRAY%SCALAR but have ARRAY%ARRAY as being matrix
multiplication. It has the same precedence as *,/.

James
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[Numpy-discussion] How to do: y[yT] = y+T

2008-10-27 Thread Nicolas ROUX
Hello,

I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
  if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold


I would like to translate it as:
 y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold

To benefit from the Numpy speed.
But this doesn't work, any idea ?

Thanks,
Cheers,
Nicolas.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] How to do: y[yT] = y+T

2008-10-27 Thread Gabriel Gellner
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:41:06PM +0100, Nicolas ROUX wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
 I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
   if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold
 
 
 I would like to translate it as:
  y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold
 
You are close, you just need to have the right hand side also use vector
indexing (since otherwise you are trying to add something of length y to a
subset of y):

y[y  Threshold] = y[y  Threshold] + Threshold

Gabriel
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] [mailinglist] How to do: y[yT] = y+T

2008-10-27 Thread Uwe Schmitt
Nicolas ROUX schrieb:
 Hello,

 I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
 I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
   if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold


 I would like to translate it as:
  y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold
   
Hi,

your solution does not work, becaus the arrays on both
side do not have the same size in generall.

You can do it in place:

y[yT] += T

or explicitely (slower/more memory):

y[yT] = y[yT] + T

Greetings, Uwe
 To benefit from the Numpy speed.
 But this doesn't work, any idea ?

 Thanks,
 Cheers,
 Nicolas.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] [mailinglist] How to do: y[yT] = y+T

2008-10-27 Thread Gabriel Gellner
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:45:44PM +0100, Uwe Schmitt wrote:
 Nicolas ROUX schrieb:
  Hello,
 
  I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
  I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold
 
 
  I would like to translate it as:
   y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold

 Hi,
 
 your solution does not work, becaus the arrays on both
 side do not have the same size in generall.
 
 You can do it in place:
 
 y[yT] += T
 
Nice, I didn't know this :-) Thanks.

Gabriel
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] How to do: y[yT] = y+T

2008-10-27 Thread David Douard
Le Monday 27 October 2008 12:41:06 Nicolas ROUX, vous avez écrit :
 Hello,

 I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
 I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
   if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold


 I would like to translate it as:
  y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold

let's see :

y[yT] += T

Is it what you want ?


 To benefit from the Numpy speed.
 But this doesn't work, any idea ?

 Thanks,
 Cheers,
 Nicolas.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] How to do: y[yT] = y+T

2008-10-27 Thread Nicolas ROUX
Thanks for all of you,
for this fast and good reply ;-)


Nicolas.

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Le Monday 27 October 2008 12:41:06 Nicolas ROUX, vous avez écrit :
 Hello,

 I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
 I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
   if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold


 I would like to translate it as:
  y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold

let's see :

y[yT] += T

Is it what you want ?


 To benefit from the Numpy speed.
 But this doesn't work, any idea ?

 Thanks,
 Cheers,
 Nicolas.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] (Late) summary of PEP-225 discussion at Scipy

2008-10-27 Thread David Warde-Farley
On 27-Oct-08, at 7:22 AM, James Philbin wrote:

 One operator which could be used is '%'. We could keep the current
 behaviour for ARRAY%SCALAR but have ARRAY%ARRAY as being matrix
 multiplication. It has the same precedence as *,/.

The problem is that it would monkey with existing semantics for  
broadcasting, and break with all the other arithmetic operators in  
this regard. I can't see it ever being accepted for that reason.


Example:

In [514]: x
Out[514]:
array([[0, 1, 2],
[3, 4, 5],
[6, 7, 8]])

In [515]: y
Out[515]: array([0, 1, 2])

In [516]: x % y
Out[516]:
array([[0, 0, 0],
[0, 0, 1],
[0, 0, 0]])


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Re: [Numpy-discussion] How to do: y[yT] = y+T

2008-10-27 Thread Anne Archibald
If what you are trying to do is actually ensure all data is within the
range [a,b], you may be interested to know that python's % operator
works on floating-point numbers:

In [1]: -0.1 % 1
Out[1]: 0.90002

So if you want all samples in the range (0,1) you can just do y%=1.

Anne

2008/10/27 Nicolas ROUX [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks for all of you,
 for this fast and good reply ;-)


 Nicolas.

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 Le Monday 27 October 2008 12:41:06 Nicolas ROUX, vous avez écrit :
 Hello,

 I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
 I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
   if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold


 I would like to translate it as:
  y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold

 let's see :

 y[yT] += T

 Is it what you want ?


 To benefit from the Numpy speed.
 But this doesn't work, any idea ?

 Thanks,
 Cheers,
 Nicolas.

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[Numpy-discussion] How to do : x[i,j] = y[k, j] with k = i+sj

2008-10-27 Thread Nicolas ROUX
Hi,

Me again ;-)
I have now a new question to ask (I hope not too silly).

How to do :

for j in range(yHeight):
   for i in range(xWidth):
  x[j,i] = y[k,i] with k = numpy.mod(i+sj,yHeight)

With efficient numpy code, without the double for ?

Thanks, 


Cheers,
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Nicolas ROUX schrieb:
 Hello,

 I hope this is not a silly question ;-)
 I have a Numpy array, and I want to process it with :
   if the value is lower than Threshold, then increase by Threshold


 I would like to translate it as:
  y[yTreshold] = y + Treshold
   
Hi,

your solution does not work, becaus the arrays on both
side do not have the same size in generall.

You can do it in place:

y[yT] += T

or explicitely (slower/more memory):

y[yT] = y[yT] + T

Greetings, Uwe
 To benefit from the Numpy speed.
 But this doesn't work, any idea ?

 Thanks,
 Cheers,
 Nicolas.

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[Numpy-discussion] any interest in including a second-order gradient?

2008-10-27 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
We wrote a simple variation on the gradient() function to calculate the
second derivatives. Would there be any interest in including a
gradient2() in numpy?

Andrew



def gradient2(f, *varargs):
Calculate the second-order gradient of an N-dimensional scalar
function.

Uses central differences on the interior and first differences on
boundaries
to give the same shape.

Inputs:

  f -- An N-dimensional array giving samples of a scalar function

  varargs -- 0, 1, or N scalars giving the sample distances in each
direction

Outputs:

  N arrays of the same shape as f giving the derivative of f with
respect
  to each dimension.


N = len(f.shape)  # number of dimensions
n = len(varargs)
if n == 0:
dx = [1.0]*N
elif n == 1:
dx = [varargs[0]]*N
elif n == N:
dx = list(varargs)
else:
raise SyntaxError, invalid number of arguments

# use central differences on interior and first differences on
endpoints

outvals = []

# create slice objects --- initially all are [:, :, ..., :]
slice1 = [slice(None)]*N
slice2 = [slice(None)]*N
slice3 = [slice(None)]*N


otype = f.dtype.char
if otype not in ['f', 'd', 'F', 'D']:
otype = 'd'

for axis in range(N):
# select out appropriate parts for this dimension
out = zeros(f.shape, f.dtype.char)
slice1[axis] = slice(1, -1)
slice2[axis] = slice(2, None)
slice3[axis] = slice(None, -2)
# 1D equivalent -- out[1:-1] = (f[2:] - 2*f[1:-1] + f[:-2])
out[slice1] = (f[slice2] - 2*f[slice1] + f[slice3])
slice1[axis] = 0
slice2[axis] = 1
slice3[axis] = 2
# 1D equivalent -- out[0] = (f[2] - 2*f[1] + f[0])
out[slice1] = (f[slice3] - 2*f[slice2] + f[slice1])
slice1[axis] = -1
slice2[axis] = -2
slice3[axis] = -3
# 1D equivalent -- out[-1] = (f[-1] - 2*f{-2] + f[-3])
out[slice1] = (f[slice1] - 2*f[slice2] + f[slice3])

# divide by the squared step size
outvals.append(out / dx[axis] / dx[axis])

# reset the slice object in this dimension to :
slice1[axis] = slice(None)
slice2[axis] = slice(None)
slice3[axis] = slice(None)

if N == 1:
return outvals[0]
else:
return outvals
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] (Late) summary of PEP-225 discussion at Scipy

2008-10-27 Thread Eric Firing
James Philbin wrote:
 One operator which could be used is '%'. We could keep the current
 behaviour for ARRAY%SCALAR but have ARRAY%ARRAY as being matrix
 multiplication. It has the same precedence as *,/.
 

No, having completely unrelated meanings for the same operator symbol 
sounds like a recipe for chaos.  The whole point is to make the code 
more readable, not less.

Eric
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] (Late) summary of PEP-225 discussion at Scipy

2008-10-27 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Eric Firing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James Philbin wrote:
 One operator which could be used is '%'. We could keep the current
 behaviour for ARRAY%SCALAR but have ARRAY%ARRAY as being matrix
 multiplication. It has the same precedence as *,/.


 No, having completely unrelated meanings for the same operator symbol
 sounds like a recipe for chaos.  The whole point is to make the code
 more readable, not less.

Big -1 from me on this one too, for the same reasons Eric states.

I just got back from some travel and will try to update the doc later
this evening with all the feedback and will post again, so that we can
converge on a final doc, which I'll then pitch over the fence to the
python-dev list.

Thanks to all who have written, and keep it coming!

Cheers,

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[Numpy-discussion] ParallelProgramming wiki page

2008-10-27 Thread Robin
Hi,

I made some changes to the ParallelProgramming wiki page to outline
use of the (multi)processing module as well as the threading module.

I'm very much not an expert on this - just researched it for myself,
so please feel free to correct/ extend/ delete as appropriate.

Robin
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[Numpy-discussion] problems multiplying poly1d with number from array

2008-10-27 Thread Mark Bakker
Hello list -

I can multiply a poly1d instance with a number, but when I multiply with a
number from an array, the order matters. That seems a bug:

 a = array([2])
 p = poly1d([1,2])
 print 2*p  # Works

2 x + 4
 print a[0]*p  # Doesn't work, returns an array
[2 4]
 print p*a[0]  # Works

2 x + 4
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] ParallelProgramming wiki page

2008-10-27 Thread Sebastien Binet
On Monday 27 October 2008 12:56:56 Robin wrote:
 Hi,

 I made some changes to the ParallelProgramming wiki page to outline
 use of the (multi)processing module as well as the threading module.

 I'm very much not an expert on this - just researched it for myself,
 so please feel free to correct/ extend/ delete as appropriate.

I would mention the backport of multiprocessing for python-2.{4,5}:
 http://code.google.com/p/python-multiprocessing
so the amount of editing when one switches from 2.{4,5} to 2.6 is minimal :)

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] ParallelProgramming wiki page

2008-10-27 Thread Robert Kern
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 15:20, Sebastien Binet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 27 October 2008 12:56:56 Robin wrote:
 Hi,

 I made some changes to the ParallelProgramming wiki page to outline
 use of the (multi)processing module as well as the threading module.

 I'm very much not an expert on this - just researched it for myself,
 so please feel free to correct/ extend/ delete as appropriate.

 I would mention the backport of multiprocessing for python-2.{4,5}:
  http://code.google.com/p/python-multiprocessing
 so the amount of editing when one switches from 2.{4,5} to 2.6 is minimal :)

Go for it. The wiki is open to editing.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] numpy array change notifier?

2008-10-27 Thread Pierre GM
On Monday 27 October 2008 16:54:09 Erik Tollerud wrote:
 Is there any straightforward way of notifying on change of a numpy
 array that leaves the numpy arrays still efficient?

Erik, may be you could try the trick presented here : 
http://www.scipy.org/Subclasses
in the __array_wrap__ section.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] numpy array change notifier?

2008-10-27 Thread Brent Pedersen
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 15:54, Erik Tollerud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any straightforward way of notifying on change of a numpy
 array that leaves the numpy arrays still efficient?

 Not currently, no.

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out of curiosity,
would something like this affect efficiency (and/or work):

class Notify(numpy.ndarray):
def __setitem__(self, *args):
self.notify(*args)
return super(Notify, self).__setitem__(*args)

def notify(self, *args):
print 'notify:', args


with also overriding setslice?
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] ParallelProgramming wiki page

2008-10-27 Thread dmitrey
Did you mean this one
http://www.netlib.org/scalapack/pblas_qref.html
?

As for the ParallelProgramming wiki page, there are some words in 
section Use parallel primitives about numpy.dot still I can't 
understand from the section: if I get numpy from sources and compile it 
(via python setup.py build) in my AMD X2, will numpy.dot use 2nd CPU 
or not?

Regards, D.

Frédéric Bastien wrote:
 Hi,

 Their exist open source version of parallel BLAS library. I modified
 the section Use parallel primitives to tell it. But my English is
 bad, so if someone can check it, it would be nice.

 Fred

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 15:20, Sebastien Binet
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Monday 27 October 2008 12:56:56 Robin wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I made some changes to the ParallelProgramming wiki page to outline
 use of the (multi)processing module as well as the threading module.

 I'm very much not an expert on this - just researched it for myself,
 so please feel free to correct/ extend/ delete as appropriate.
 
 I would mention the backport of multiprocessing for python-2.{4,5}:
  http://code.google.com/p/python-multiprocessing
 so the amount of editing when one switches from 2.{4,5} to 2.6 is minimal :)
   
 Go for it. The wiki is open to editing.

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Re: [Numpy-discussion] ParallelProgramming wiki page

2008-10-27 Thread Robin
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:17 PM, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As for the ParallelProgramming wiki page, there are some words in
 section Use parallel primitives about numpy.dot still I can't
 understand from the section: if I get numpy from sources and compile it
 (via python setup.py build) in my AMD X2, will numpy.dot use 2nd CPU
 or not?

Not unless you build numpy against a paralell enabled BLAS, for
example Intel MKL, ATLAS etc.

I think if you compile ATLAS with threading enabled, and then build
numpy using the appropriate ptlapack libraries (I forget the exact
name) then the dot should use the second CPU. As Frederic added to the
wiki - the number of threads to use can only be provided to atlas at
compile time.

With MKL I think you can choose this at run time (I think through an
environment variable but I'm not sure).

Similarly with the GOTO blas, but I'm not sure if numpy builds with
that, so maybe we should take that reference out.

Robin
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Re: [Numpy-discussion] numpy array change notifier?

2008-10-27 Thread Ryan May
Brent Pedersen wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Robert Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 15:54, Erik Tollerud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any straightforward way of notifying on change of a numpy
 array that leaves the numpy arrays still efficient?
 Not currently, no.

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 out of curiosity,
 would something like this affect efficiency (and/or work):
 
 class Notify(numpy.ndarray):
 def __setitem__(self, *args):
 self.notify(*args)
 return super(Notify, self).__setitem__(*args)
 
 def notify(self, *args):
 print 'notify:', args
 
 
 with also overriding setslice?

I haven't given this much thought, but you'd also likely need to do this
for the infix operators (+=, etc.).

Ryan

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