Re: [nycwireless] App Idea: A Web-based NetStumbler?

2004-03-19 Thread Ophir Tanz
Rob,
	
	Check out http://cmusky.net.cmu.edu - specifically the Maps section.  Some 
slight modifications to the code in the way of extracting a users MAC 
address and matching it up with the associated dot on the map would produce 
the desired effect, thus showing how far a given user is from the source 
AP.  The maps on the page show user locations and AP locations on separate 
maps, but these, of course, can easily be combined.
	One issue to keep in mind is privacy.  What you are suggesting presupposes 
clear-text access to MAC addresses at some level.  When developing cmuSKY 
we were sure not to provide any identifying information and to run MAC 
addresses through strong encryption (and not use them when not completely 
necessary).

Does this help answer your question?

Ophir

--On Friday, March 19, 2004 11:40 AM -0800 Rob Kelley 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In line with providing apps that helps wireless users, I was wondering:
is it possible to create some type of web-based widget that would show
you the strength of the signal given your location?  The idea is that
when a user hit the portal, the portal webpage would show up and they
could immediately see how far they were from the source.
First thought was a standalone web app.  But I don't know how this
browser-based app would get its information (packet speed?).  Does a
browser have access to enough information to deduce signal strength?
Would it be possible to get information from the card itself?
What if there was a web-based plug-in to NetStumbler.  If the user has
NetStumbler installed, they can click the image and the view pulls in a
simple dynamic graph.  NetStumbler would feed info to the web app.
Would that work?
Are either of these feasible?  What are the issues?

Thanks for the help

Rob



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[nycwireless] App Idea: A Web-based NetStumbler?

2004-03-19 Thread Rob Kelley
In line with providing apps that helps wireless users, I was wondering:
is it possible to create some type of web-based widget that would show
you the strength of the signal given your location?  The idea is that
when a user hit the portal, the portal webpage would show up and they
could immediately see how far they were from the source. 

First thought was a standalone web app.  But I don't know how this
browser-based app would get its information (packet speed?).  Does a
browser have access to enough information to deduce signal strength? 
Would it be possible to get information from the card itself?  

What if there was a web-based plug-in to NetStumbler.  If the user has
NetStumbler installed, they can click the image and the view pulls in a
simple dynamic graph.  NetStumbler would feed info to the web app. 
Would that work?

Are either of these feasible?  What are the issues?

Thanks for the help

Rob
 


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[nycwireless] Re: nycwireless Digest, Vol 13, Issue 13

2004-03-19 Thread Rob Kelley
Cool.  I think there's an opportunity to put wireless access points in
laundromats (both public ones and apt building ones).  It'd be logical
if the ones in apt buildings could read the same card.

Though it'd be better if it were free...

Rob

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Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:10:58 -0500
From: "jon baer" 
Subject: [nycwireless] Co-Op WiFi Access Point :-)
To: 
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Now if only Linksys made one for us poor folks, Id be in the street
panhandling WiFi :-)

http://www.com2000.com.hk/tt-1-wa.htm

-snip-
For wireless access point user usage charge.
User needs to insert coin(s) to enable the use of wireless access point
(AP).
For example, a user wishes to use the wireless facility for Internet
access.
He/She inserts coins to the specific amount and the unit will enable
the
network port of the wireless AP. He/She will be able to access the
Internet
for a specific time (controlled by the timer builtin the unit).
TT-1-WA(WF) integrated a Wireless 802.11b compliant Access Point with
the
coin controller. Also includes a Password display function for: Hidden
ESSID. For which a single password is required for the user to access
the
wireless AP. This password is pre-stored in the memory of the control
board
and will be displayed to the user when he/she inserts coins.
TT-1-WA(WG) - Integrated 802.11g (802.11b compliant) 54Mbps Wireless
Access
Point. Features included: 54Mbps High Speed Wireless, 64/128bit WEP,
WPA,
MAC filtering, SSID broadcast disable function, DHCP, PPPoE, PPTP,
Large
blue LCD display with backlight, one external Dipole antenna, 6-coins
programmable precision coin validator, WPA PSK/SSID/Password Display
Function, Web-based Configuration program for Access Point, RJ-45
network
connector disable function.
-snip-

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[nycwireless] pebble on new via boards?

2004-03-19 Thread jon baer
ok from a technical viewpoint ... there is probably no reason why a pebble
ap could not run on a new via EPIA N board correct? (provided the card runs
mini-pci)

ref:
http://www.viaembedded.com/product/reference_design_story.jsp?motherboardId=
221
http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_N_spec.jsp?motherboardId=221

- jon

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[nycwireless] Article of interest

2004-03-19 Thread Max Pyziur
Move Over 3G, Here Comes WiMAX
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=569&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20040319/tc_nm/tech_cebit_wimax_dc



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[nycwireless] WiFi Alliance: More interop problems

2004-03-19 Thread jon baer
WiFi Alliance says WLAN interoperability problems growing
The WiFi Alliance this week said that the number of interoperability
problems between WLAN networks and cards is growing. The association said
that increased WLAN security and the growing complexity of 802.11
technologies is increasing the number of WLAN products that do not work
together. Increased security procedures, such as VPNs, and new security
protocols make it difficult for enterprise users and other security
conscious people to access older WLAN networks and free hotspots, which
often lack detailed security protocols. Also, newer WLAN equipment and
proprietary enhancements to WLAN gear make it difficult for users with older
WLAN cards to access these newer networks. The WiFi Alliance said that 22
percent of WLAN devices -- such as networking cards, access points, and
printer servers -- submitted for testing at its four partner laboratories
failed to work on a WLAN network on the first test.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040318/ap_on_hi_te/europ
e_tech_show_wi_fi_1

- jon

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