[nycwireless] Fwd: A better idea for Net neutrality

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Henry
Here's a thought provoking article from CNET on the so-called net 
neutrality proposals.
Jim

 
 A better idea for Net neutrality
 By Randolph J. May
 
 Policy analyst Randolph J. May says the time is right for 
 advocates to step back from the precipice.
 
 http://news.com.com/A+better+idea+for+Net+neutrality/2010-1028_3-6048882.html?tag=sas.email
 
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Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: A better idea for Net neutrality

2006-03-15 Thread Rob Kelley
Ok, I'll call it.  Astroturf!

For those who don't know, Policy Analyst Randolph May is actually
with the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a well-known astroturf group
(looks like grassroots but really funded by the telcos):
[http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Progress_and_Freedom_Foundation
]

Jim, this is just more of the same disingenuous stuff we've seen
before.  Are you paid to post this stuff to the board?   Because the
articles neither align with NYCwireless's mission nor any savvy
person's common sense. 

Rob

--- Jim Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's a thought provoking article from CNET on the so-called net 
 neutrality proposals.
 Jim
 
  
  A better idea for Net neutrality
  By Randolph J. May
  
  Policy analyst Randolph J. May says the time is right for 
  advocates to step back from the precipice.
  
 

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Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: A better idea for Net neutrality

2006-03-15 Thread Ruben Safir
You may be right but I find this funny from someone using yahoo mail,
which will be one of the first casualties of a closed internet.

Ruben

On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 18:13, Rob Kelley wrote:
 Ok, I'll call it.  Astroturf!
 
 For those who don't know, Policy Analyst Randolph May is actually
 with the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a well-known astroturf group
 (looks like grassroots but really funded by the telcos):
 [http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Progress_and_Freedom_Foundation
 ]
 
 Jim, this is just more of the same disingenuous stuff we've seen
 before.  Are you paid to post this stuff to the board?   Because the
 articles neither align with NYCwireless's mission nor any savvy
 person's common sense. 
 
 Rob
 
 --- Jim Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Here's a thought provoking article from CNET on the so-called net 
  neutrality proposals.
  Jim
  
   
   A better idea for Net neutrality
   By Randolph J. May
   
   Policy analyst Randolph J. May says the time is right for 
   advocates to step back from the precipice.
   
  
 
 http://news.com.com/A+better+idea+for+Net+neutrality/2010-1028_3-6048882.html?tag=sas.email
   
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RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: A better idea for Net neutrality

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Henry
Rob,
   If you can post policy positions from one point of view, why can't you
tolerate me posting a position from another point of view? PFF is a
legitimate organization. Instead you imply it is disingenuous.  Why?
Check out PFF's web site and they are quite up front about their positions
and their constituency.  Anyone who understands how business works realizes
that the positions they espouse make good sense.
Respectfully,
Jim


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 Ok, I'll call it.  Astroturf!
 
 For those who don't know, Policy Analyst Randolph May is 
 actually with the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a 
 well-known astroturf group (looks like grassroots but really 
 funded by the telcos): 
 [http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Progress_and_Freed
 om_Foundation
 ]
 
 Jim, this is just more of the same disingenuous stuff we've seen
 before.  Are you paid to post this stuff to the board?   Because the
 articles neither align with NYCwireless's mission nor any 
 savvy person's common sense. 
 
 Rob
 
 --- Jim Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Here's a thought provoking article from CNET on the so-called net
  neutrality proposals.
  Jim
  
   
   A better idea for Net neutrality
   By Randolph J. May
   
   Policy analyst Randolph J. May says the time is right for
   advocates to step back from the precipice.
   
  
 
 http://news.com.com/A+better+idea+for+Net+neutrality/2010-1028
_3-6048882.html?tag=sas.email
  
  Read all technology news from this week: 
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Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: A better idea for Net neutrality

2006-03-15 Thread Dana Spiegel

Jim,

You are correct. They are upfront about their constituency.

Where the problem lies is in their insistence that they are  
representing the public. They are not. They are representing the  
people who fund them. In that respect, they are an illegitimate  
organization. The misrepresentation of the people they claim to  
represent makes them illegitimate.


And as for them making good sense, perhaps they do, if you are a  
large private organization trying to monopolize a marketplace. To  
many others, including most of the informed and uninformed public,  
they practice religious free market worship.



Dana Spiegel
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NYCwireless
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On Mar 15, 2006, at 7:13 PM, Jim Henry wrote:


Rob,
   If you can post policy positions from one point of view, why  
can't you

tolerate me posting a position from another point of view? PFF is a
legitimate organization. Instead you imply it is disingenuous.  Why?
Check out PFF's web site and they are quite up front about their  
positions
and their constituency.  Anyone who understands how business works  
realizes

that the positions they espouse make good sense.
Respectfully,
Jim



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Ok, I'll call it.  Astroturf!

For those who don't know, Policy Analyst Randolph May is
actually with the Progress and Freedom Foundation, a
well-known astroturf group (looks like grassroots but really
funded by the telcos):
[http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Progress_and_Freed
om_Foundation
]

Jim, this is just more of the same disingenuous stuff we've seen
before.  Are you paid to post this stuff to the board?   Because the
articles neither align with NYCwireless's mission nor any
savvy person's common sense.

Rob

--- Jim Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here's a thought provoking article from CNET on the so-called net
neutrality proposals.
Jim



A better idea for Net neutrality
By Randolph J. May

Policy analyst Randolph J. May says the time is right for
advocates to step back from the precipice.





http://news.com.com/A+better+idea+for+Net+neutrality/2010-1028

_3-6048882.html?tag=sas.email


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