Re: [nycwireless] Nation: Google's Wi-Fi Privacy Ploy

2006-03-28 Thread Michael Lenczner
at ISF in montreal we have 15,000 users.  each has given us a username
+ password.  and we're doing much more than having just a dumb pipe.

On 3/27/06, Rob Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0325-23.htm
>
> >From the good folks at Common Dreams here's some difficult stuff to
> chew on...
>
> In San Francisco, Google may be "bargain[ing] away users' privacy for a
> trickle of Internet connectivity," according to a speaker for the
> Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC). "Individuals' privacy is
> worth more than a 300K download speed."   Sascha also gets quoted.
>
> I'm not sure what to think.  Users should be able to be anonymous and
> pseudonymous.  I don't like the idea of being distracted by marketing
> everywhere I go.
>
> But at the same time, separate from commerce, building community ALSO
> requires the user to give us some information.  How does a hotspot
> owner know if a user has been to his hotspot before?  How can he
> personalize a portal if he can't identify the user?  Should a hotspot
> be just a dumb pipe?  I think there's far more potential in a Dodgeball
> or LinkedIn type network.
>
> Hmmm, what is the proper, progressive, "do no evil" way to proceed?
>
> Rob
>
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[nycwireless] Nation: Google's Wi-Fi Privacy Ploy

2006-03-27 Thread Rob Kelley
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0325-23.htm

>From the good folks at Common Dreams here's some difficult stuff to
chew on...

In San Francisco, Google may be "bargain[ing] away users' privacy for a
trickle of Internet connectivity," according to a speaker for the
Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC). "Individuals' privacy is
worth more than a 300K download speed."   Sascha also gets quoted.

I'm not sure what to think.  Users should be able to be anonymous and
pseudonymous.  I don't like the idea of being distracted by marketing
everywhere I go.

But at the same time, separate from commerce, building community ALSO
requires the user to give us some information.  How does a hotspot
owner know if a user has been to his hotspot before?  How can he
personalize a portal if he can't identify the user?  Should a hotspot
be just a dumb pipe?  I think there's far more potential in a Dodgeball
or LinkedIn type network.

Hmmm, what is the proper, progressive, "do no evil" way to proceed?

Rob

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