date:20131209

I didn't see this go to Cayugabirds so I am resending. This is great news and I 
am proud of us all!!  

Linda Orkin 
Ithaca, NY

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On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Christina Wilkinson  wrote:

> Looks like the activism worked:
>  
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> December 9, 2013
> 
> CONTACT: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
> 212-435-
> 
> STATEMENT FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY ON SNOWY OWLS
> 
> “The Port Authority is working with the New York State Department of 
> Environmental Conservation to move immediately toward implementing a program 
> to trap and relocate snowy owls that pose a threat to aircraft at JFK and 
> LaGuardia airports. The Port Authority’s goal is to strike a balance in 
> humanely controlling bird populations at and around the agency’s airports to 
> safeguard passengers on thousands of aircrafts each day. Over the past two 
> weeks, five planes at JFK, Newark Liberty and LaGuardia airports were struck 
> by snowy owls that have been migrating to our region in far higher than 
> typical numbers this year.” 
> 
> Great work, everyone!
>  
> Christina
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[nysbirds-l] Port Authority backs off Snowy Owl killings

Looks like the activism worked:

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 9, 2013

CONTACT: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
212-435-

STATEMENT FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY ON SNOWY OWLS

"The Port Authority is working with the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation to move immediately toward implementing a program
to trap and relocate snowy owls that pose a threat to aircraft at JFK and
LaGuardia airports. The Port Authority's goal is to strike a balance in
humanely controlling bird populations at and around the agency's airports to
safeguard passengers on thousands of aircrafts each day. Over the past two
weeks, five planes at JFK, Newark Liberty and LaGuardia airports were struck
by snowy owls that have been migrating to our region in far higher than
typical numbers this year." 



Great work, everyone!

 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...

Andrew,

Here is the letter that Audubon NY and NYC Audubon jointly sent to the Port 
Authority.

Stella Miller
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon


 



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 From: Andrew Baksh 
To: nysbirds-l  
Cc: Nyc ebirds ; "jerse...@lists.princeton.edu" 
 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and 
elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...
 


I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of 
Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The list 
can be accessed here 
http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html

This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers phone 
numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other resources to add, 
please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.

Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be 
willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This will 
help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.


Keep up the pressure y'all!

Cheers!

Andrew Baksh
Queens, NY
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

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Audubon Letter to PANYNJ and JFK 12-9-13.pdf
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[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society's Monthly Program Wednesday December 11



Plum Island: The Good, the Bad and the Beautiful
with John Turner
Wednesday, December 11, 2013
7:00pm
Cold Spring Harbor Library

What's with the hoopla over Plum Island lately?  
There has been much focus and effort over the past several years to 
"save" Plum Island, situated off the North Fork of Long Island, with 
efforts really heating up recently.   With over 200 bird species (204 as of 
December 6th's survey!) recorded using the island for breeding, wintering or 
migratory stopover 
purposes, and playing host as the largest seal haul-out site in southern New 
England, over 80% of  Plum Island is critical wildlife habitat.  
This program will cover the major cultural and natural features of the 
Island that so many environmentalists, through the Preserve Plum Island 
Coalition, are working to protect through the creation of a National 
Wildlife Refuge or an equivalent conservation outcome. 

>From the old rumors of two headed cows to the new rumors of "The 
Donald" wanting to build a golf course on the island, Plum Island has 
always been shrouded in controversy.  Join us tonight as we hear the 
truth about this beautiful island, and why conservationists are putting their 
hearts and souls into saving it!  

For more details and to see our other upcoming programs, field trips and 
activities please visit our website.

Stella Miller
President
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon 

Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon works to protect birds and other wildlife, and 
the habitats upon which they depend through education, public 
advocacy and conservation action.
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[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owl on runway almost gets walked on.

2013-12-09 Thread Peter Colen

http://www.petercolenphotography.com/Snowy-Owl-on-Runway/i-brpH4tJ

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[nysbirds-l] Pressure = results...1st step...

Results from the pressure.  Birder Mike Shanley just posted a press release
from Port Authority to Facebook.

December 9, 2013

CONTACT: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
212-435-

STATEMENT FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY ON SNOWY OWLS

“The Port Authority is working with the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation to move immediately toward implementing a
program to trap and relocate snowy owls that pose a threat to aircraft at
JFK and LaGuardia airports. The Port Authority’s goal is to strike a
balance in humanely controlling bird populations at and around the agency’s
airports to safeguard passengers on thousands of aircrafts each day. Over
the past two weeks, five planes at JFK, Newark Liberty and LaGuardia
airports were struck by snowy owls that have been migrating to our region
in far higher than typical numbers this year.”

# # #

Founded in 1921, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey builds,
operates, and maintains many of the most important transportation and trade
infrastructure assets in the country. The agency’s network of aviation,
ground, rail, and seaport facilities is among the busiest in the country,
supports more than 550,000 regional jobs, and generates more than $23
billion in annual wages and $80 billion in annual economic activity. The
Port Authority also owns and manages the 16-acre World Trade Center site,
where construction crews are building the iconic One World Trade Center,
which is now the tallest skyscraper in the Western Hemisphere. The Port
Authority receives no tax revenue from either the State of New York or New
Jersey or from the City of New York. The agency raises the necessary funds
for the improvement, construction or acquisition of its facilities
primarily on its own credit. For more information, please visit
http://www.panynj.gov
.

Port Authority of New York & New Jersey
www.panynj.gov

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:

> I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of
> Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The
> list can be accessed here
> http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html
>
> This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers
> phone numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other
> resources to add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.
>
> Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be
> willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This
> will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.
>
> Keep up the pressure y'all!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Andrew Baksh
> Queens, NY
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
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[nysbirds-l] Upcoming QCBC Meeting


Pardon for the second email

Our meeting will be THIS Wednesday. not our usual third wednesday.

Apologies for any confusion.


Arie Gilbert
President - Queens County Bird Club, Inc
http://www.qcbirdclub.org




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Re: [nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls

Another email to use. Let's increase the pressure and stop this insane 
solution. 

See Rick Kefenburg's email below. 

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, ny

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On Dec 9, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rick & Linda Kedenburg  
wrote:

> Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get more 
> done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the regular 
> contact protocol on their website.
> Rick
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg 
>> Date: December 9, 2013 5:24:31 PM EST
>> To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov
>> Subject: Wasting taxpayers money
>> 
>> Dear Inspector General,
>> 
>> This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are 
>> misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when they 
>> migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are no threat to 
>> aircraft!
>> 
>> Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like stealing money 
>> from the taxpayers while violating common decency.
>> 
> Rick Kedenburg
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Port Authority 'wildlife specialists' hunt snowy owls at New York City's 
> airports
> 
> Whooodunit? Snowy owls, apparently. After one was sucked into an airplane 
> turbine, the species has been added to a list of birds that 'wildlife 
> specialists' kill to protect planes from bird strikes.
> 
> Comments (32)
> BY THOMAS TRACY , EDGAR SANDOVAL AND TINA MOORE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
> 
> MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2013, 2:25 AM
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[nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls

2013-12-09 Thread Rick & Linda Kedenburg

Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get  
more done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the  
regular contact protocol on their website.
Rick

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Rick & Linda Kedenburg 
> Date: December 9, 2013 5:24:31 PM EST
> To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov
> Subject: Wasting taxpayers money
>
> Dear Inspector General,
>
> This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are  
> misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when  
> they migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are  
> no threat to aircraft!
>
> Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like  
> stealing money from the taxpayers while violating common decency.
>
Rick Kedenburg

>
>
>
Port Authority 'wildlife specialists' hunt snowy owls at New York  
City's airports

Whooodunit? Snowy owls, apparently. After one was sucked into an  
airplane turbine, the species has been added to a list of birds that  
'wildlife specialists' kill to protect planes from bird strikes.

Comments (32)
BY THOMAS TRACY , EDGAR SANDOVAL AND TINA MOORE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2013, 2:25 AM
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...

Thanks Andrew. I have sent this to Cayuga birds also. 

All see below. 

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, ny

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:

> I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of 
> Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The 
> list can be accessed here 
> http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html
> 
> This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers phone 
> numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other resources to 
> add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.
> 
> Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be 
> willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This 
> will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.
> 
> Keep up the pressure y'all!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> Queens, NY
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
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[nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...

I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of
Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The
list can be accessed here
http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html

This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers phone
numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other resources to
add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.

Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be
willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This
will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.

Keep up the pressure y'all!

Cheers!

Andrew Baksh
Queens, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2013-12-09 Thread Joseph Brin

RBA
 
*  New York
*  Syracuse
* December 09, 2013
*  NYSY  12. 09. 13
 
Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert
Dates(s):

December 02, 2013 - December 09, 2013
to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com
covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge
and Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC) (just outside Cayuga County),
Onondaga, Oswego, Lewis, Jefferson, Oneida, Herkimer,  Madison & Cortland
compiled:December 09 AT 4:00 p.m. (EST)
compiler: Joseph Brin
Onondaga Audubon Homepage: www.onondagaaudubon.org
 
 
#372 Monday December 09, 2013
 
Greetings. This is the Syracuse Area Rare Bird Alert for the week of 
December 02, 2013
 
Highlights:
---
CACKLING GOOSE
BRANT
ROSS’S GOOSE
RED-SHOULDERED HAWK
SANDHILL CRANE
ICELAND GULL
GLAUCOUS GULL
LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL
SNOWY OWL
SAW-WHET OWL
RUFOUS HUMMINGBIRD
NORTHERN SHRIKE
HERMIT THRUSH
GRAY CATBIRD
LAPLAND LONGSPUR




Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge (MNWR) and Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC)


     12/6: 4 SNOWY OWLS were seen on the south side of Rt. 31 opposite the 
potato building. also seen were 1 ROSS’S GOOSE and 4 SANDHILL CRANES.
     12/7: The 4 SNOWY OWLS were again seen at the previously mentioned Area in 
the mucklands. Also seen were a LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL, an ICELAND GULL and 
20+ SANDHILL CRANES. Yet another SNOWY OWL was found on VanDyne Spoor Road.
     12/8: 3 of the SNOWY OWLS were refound at the Rt. 31 location opposite the 
potato building.


Extralimital


     12/3: This was the last sighting of the RUFOUS HUMMINGBIRD on Mynderse 
Street  in Seneca Falls.


Onondaga County


     SNOWY OWLS continue their presence at Hancock Airport. Anywhere from three 
to seven have been reported daily.
     12/6: A SAW-WHET OWL has returned to it’s area at Beaver Lake Nature 
Center on the Bog Trail. It was relocated on the 7th. but has not been found 
since.
     12/7: ABRANT was seen along the Creekwalk on Onondaga Creek near Carousel 
Center in Syracuse.
     12/8: A PEREGRINE FALCON was seen hunting at the intersection of Rt. 31 
and 57 in the town of Clay. A NORTHERN SHRIKE was seen at Three Rivers WMA 
north of Baldwinsville. A late HERMIT THRUSH was again seen along the Creekwalk


Oneida County


     12/5: A NORTHERN SHRIKE was seen on Dunbar Road near Camden.
     12/7: A GLAUCOUS GULL was seen on Oneida Lake at South Bay.


Oswego County


     12/8: A late GRAY CATBIRD and a CACKLING GOOSE were seen at Mexico Point 
State Park. Three SNOWY OWLS were seen on the break walls at Oswego Harbor.


Herkimer County
-

     A LAPLAND LONGSPUR was found on Peck Road north of Little Falls.


Madison County


     12/3: A GLAUCOUS GULL was seen at the Madison County Landfill.
     12/8: an ICELAND GULL was seen at the Sav-alot gas station in Canastota.

    

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Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes

Forwarding with permission of Betsy.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

Begin forwarded message:

From: Betsy Russell mailto:betsywruss...@aol.com>>
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Date: December 9, 2013 12:30:46 PM EST
To: mailto:caven...@gmail.com>>, 
mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Reply-To: Betsy Russell mailto:betsywruss...@aol.com>>

I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if you want to.

I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany 
it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all 
letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely 
address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will 
enter a big black hole.  For what it's worththis is 
the address I was given.

New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
1 Commerce Plaza
99 Washington Ave.
Albany, NY 12231

Betsy Russell

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Wilson mailto:caven...@gmail.com>>
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - 
Border Collies are now the fastest-growing
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition 
to Prevent the Destruction of Canada
Geese

I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Audubon New York and NYC Audubon’s Executive Directors “sent  a letter to the 
Port Authority Executive Director (Pat Foye) and JFK’s General Manager. We have 
also alerted Governor Cuomo’s Office (the PA is jointly controlled by NY and 
NJ) and the DEC as to our position.”

Our chapter network’s leaders have been alerted as well.

Thx everyone. Let’s keep the pressure on!

Larry Federman
Northern Catskills Audubon Society

From: Alan Baratz 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 4:19 PM
To: Larry Federman ; Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Hi,
I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office.
The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, 
she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem 
to pertain to our kind of concern.
The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of 
calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. 






From: Larry Federman 
To: Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; 
nysbirds-l  
Cc: caven...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at  212 
435-

PLease share with the other listserves!

Thx.
Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
From: Linda Orkin 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time 
sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day 
and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office 
with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390


Linda Orkin

Ithaca, NY




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell  wrote:

  I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if you want to.  

  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in 
Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then 
send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most 
likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints 
will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
worththis is the address I was given.

  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231

  Betsy Russell




  -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson 
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
Geese

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Alan Baratz

Hi,
I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office.
The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, 
she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem 
to pertain to our kind of concern.
The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of 
calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. 





 From: Larry Federman 
To: Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; 
nysbirds-l  
Cc: caven...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
 


Here’s another # to call: Port 
Authority’s Media Relations Office at  212 435-
 
PLease share with the other listserves!
 
Thx.
Larry 
Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
 
From: Linda Orkin 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot 
at JFK
 
Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a 
time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in 
this 
day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's 
office with phone calls.  (518) 
474-8390

Linda 
Orkin
Ithaca, 
NY




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell  wrote:

Idid call  the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re:  Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was  kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by  the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the  agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one  should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if  you want to.  
>
>I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way 
  the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into 
  their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the 
the 
  agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by 
  hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
  worththis is the address I was given.
>
>New 
  York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
>1 Commerce Plaza
>99 Washington 
  Ave.
>Albany, NY 12231
>
>Betsy Russell
> 
> 
> 
> 
>-Original  Message-
>From: Glenn Wilson 
>To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 
  12:09 pm
>Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being 
  shot at JFK
>
>
>Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) 
www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
 www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


  
  
All

I just contacted the number below and was told it is the 'media
relations' dept. They only field calls from Media organizations

The person there however gave me this alternate contact info; 

Ian Van Praagh, 212-435-6938

I called and left a message. 

Please do so as well, and please pass along to other listserves. 

Arie Gilbert
President - Queens County Bird Club, Inc
http://www.qcbirdclub.org


On 12/9/2013 4:07 PM, Larry Federman
  wrote:


  

  Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations
  Office at  212 435-
   
  PLease share with the other listserves!
   
  Thx.
  Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
  

  
From: Linda Orkin

Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell
  ; nysbirds-l

Cc: caven...@gmail.com
  ; CAYUGABIRDS-L

Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd:
  [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  

 
  
  

  
Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is
  horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive
  issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day
  and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all
  to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518)
474-8390

  
Linda Orkin

  Ithaca, NY
  

  
  On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM,
Betsy Russell 
wrote:
I did call the
  NYC phone # given this morning in order to
  register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot
  at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany where is
  was kindly and carefully explained to me that this
  issue needs to be addressed by the public in
  writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going
  to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely
  address it.  The woman said that one should also
  request a reply with contact info. so that you can
  follow up if you want to.  
  
  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way
  the system worked in Albany it should only be hard
  copy. They scan them into their system and then
  send all letters regarding a particular issue on
  the the agency that will most likely address it.
  She explained if it is not done by hard copy your
  complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what
  it's worththis is the
  address I was given.
  
  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231
  
  Betsy Russell


  
 
 
 
-Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson 
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l]
  Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  
  
Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at  212 
435-

PLease share with the other listserves!

Thx.
Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
From: Linda Orkin 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time 
sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day 
and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office 
with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390


Linda Orkin

Ithaca, NY




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell  wrote:

  I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if you want to.  

  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in 
Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then 
send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most 
likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints 
will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
worththis is the address I was given.

  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231

  Betsy Russell




  -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson 
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
Geese

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[nysbirds-l] Queens County Bird Club Inc. - Upcoming Meeting Info-


  
  
The Queens County Bird Club Inc. will be meeting 
at the Alley Pond Environmental Center
228-06
Northern



  Blvd Douglaston, NY 11362-1906
http://www.alleypond.com/directions.htm

at 8pm on Wednesday December 11  { the third
Wednesday of the month} 

Our Speakers will be Bob Dieterich doing a presentation on "80 years
of the QCBC CBC"

Members and others, we will also be coordinating our CBC at this
meeting so be sure to attend so your efforts can best be put to use.

Non members and guests are invited to join us for our meetings
featuring noted guest speakers and to join us on our renowned field
trips. 

* QCBC is a tax exempt, charitable organization {501c3}.  *


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See http://www.qcbirdclub.org/
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[nysbirds-l] Petition about Snowy Owl killings

Hey All,

The American Bird Conservancy just alerted people to this petition that is
circulating.  For those of you who may not have time or inclination to make
phone calls.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-port-authority-of-new-york-and-new-jersey-stop-shooting-snowy-owls-at-new-york-metro-area-airports-2?share_id=pSTiVqbmWU_campaign=signature_receipt_medium=email_source=share_petition

Thanks.

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[nysbirds-l] They don't kill Snowy Owls in Boston


See this article from CBC Boston
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/12/09/large-influx-of-snowy-owls-seen-in-mass/

Mass Audubon **relocates** the birds on Logan Airport.

*** How do we get that done here?

Everyone please contact PANYNJ, the Mayor, and the Governor at a minimum!

Arie Gilbert
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Jennifer Clark

I just called and the woman who took my comment said that if the 
governor would take a stand on the issue, it would be reported on the 
front page of his website:http://www.governor.ny.gov/
I also see his Twitter feed appears there. Perhaps it's worthwhile to 
also tweet him our concerns (and with higher public visibility): @NYGovCuomo
--Jennifer


On 12/9/2013 2:18 PM, naturelvr1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be 
> passed along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. 
> 518-474-8390 is the number keep calling.
>
> Sent by me
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "steve rosenthal" 
> To: "Linda Orkin" 
> Cc: "Betsy Russell" , "nysbirds-l" 
> , , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" 
> 
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
> Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28
>
>
> i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
> assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
> i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.
>
> On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin  wrote:
> > Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
> > time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail 
> mail in
> > this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
> > Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
> >
> > Linda Orkin
> > Ithaca, NY
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
> >> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
> >> Albany
> >> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
> >> to
> >> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
> >> ever
> >> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
> >> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
> >> that
> >> you can follow up if you want to.
> >>
> >> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
> >> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their 
> system and
> >> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the 
> agency that
> >> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by 
> hard copy
> >> your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
> >> worththis is the address I was given.
> >>
> >> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
> >> 1 Commerce Plaza
> >> 99 Washington Ave.
> >> Albany, NY 12231
> >>
> >> Betsy Russell
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  -Original Message-
> >> From: Glenn Wilson 
> >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> >> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
> >> JFK
> >>
> >>  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
> >> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
> >> holiday.)
> >> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
> >> fastest-growing
> >> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
> >> golf
> >> courses and other venues across the country.
> >>
> >> Links to a pdf -
> >> 
> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
> >> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
> >> Canada
> >> Geese
> >>
> >> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel
> >>
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[nysbirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread naturelvr1313

Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be passed 
along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. 518-474-8390 is the number 
keep calling.

Sent by me

- Reply message -
From: "steve rosenthal" 
To: "Linda Orkin" 
Cc: "Betsy Russell" , "nysbirds-l" 
, , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" 

Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28


i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.

On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin  wrote:
> Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
> time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
> this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
> Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
>
> Linda Orkin
> Ithaca, NY
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
> wrote:
>
>> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
>> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
>> Albany
>> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
>> to
>> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
>> ever
>> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
>> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
>> that
>> you can follow up if you want to.
>>
>> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
>> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
>> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
>> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
>> your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
>> worththis is the address I was given.
>>
>> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
>> 1 Commerce Plaza
>> 99 Washington Ave.
>> Albany, NY 12231
>>
>> Betsy Russell
>>
>>
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>> From: Glenn Wilson 
>> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
>> JFK
>>
>>  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
>> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
>> holiday.)
>> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
>> fastest-growing
>> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
>> golf
>> courses and other venues across the country.
>>
>> Links to a pdf -
>> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
>> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
>> Canada
>> Geese
>>
>> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel
>>
>> --
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>>
>> ARCHIVES:
>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds
>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html
>>
>> Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>>
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks so much Alicia, I just called Barbara Lifton's office.  The woman I
spoke with had just read an article this morning (Ithaca Journal?) about
these owls and their arrival so was at least informed as to the underlying
information. She is going to check out who to contact and get back to me.

I did emphasize that we were looking for humane solutions to this "problem"
and that other airports seemed to do just fine with trap and release.  I
also said a Snowy that is trapped and released will not be looking to
return to that airport but would be happen in many wide open farm fields
and refuges.

I will let everyone know what I learn. I feel this can't wait.

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM,  wrote:

> Hi Linda,
>
> I can't send messages to the list from webmail, which is all I can
> access from work, but if you or someone else called Assemblywoman Lifton's
> office, I am *sure* you could (1) get contact fax info &/or email
> addresses for the proper supervising agency or agencies, so protests could
> go directly to the agencies and not be delayed by the Governor's office
> (and BTW, I am not at all sure the DEC *is* the correct agency); and (2)
> might get Assemblywoman Lifton's staff to make some independent inquiries
> of those agencies, which could have definite and quick impact on the policy
> since funding decision for agencies go through the legislature.  The object
> is to make noise, lots of noise, not to actually change anyone's idea of
> what they think would be best ...
>
>  Also, all comments should emphasize this isn't a birds vs.people
> issue, that there are ways to fully protect both - again, not to persuade
> the agency, but just so they can't frame it as crazy birders ignorant of
> public safety issues.
>
>  Best -
>
>Alicia
>
> P.S.  People should cc the governor's office AND Assemblywoman Lifton on
> anything sent to any agencies!
>
> P.P.S.  Ideally, you also want to send messages to the chairperson of
> whatever committee supervises the particular agency - again, the
> Assemblywoman's office can give you that information.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
> Linda Orkin 
>
> To:
> "Betsy Russell" , "nysbirds-l" <
> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
> Cc:
> , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" 
> Sent:
> Mon, 9 Dec 2013 12:43:00 -0500
>
> Subject:
> Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
>
>
> Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
> time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
> this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
> Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
>
> Linda Orkin
> Ithaca, NY
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
>> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany
>> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to
>> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever
>> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
>> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that
>> you can follow up if you want to.
>>
>> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
>> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
>> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
>> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
>> your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
>> worth...this is the address I was given.
>>
>>
>> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
>> 1 Commerce Plaza
>> 99 Washington Ave.
>> Albany, NY 12231
>>
>> Betsy Russell
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Glenn Wilson 
>> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
>> JFK
>>
>> Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is
>> probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)
>> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
>> fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military
>> airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf
>> -
>> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
>> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html  -
>> Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the
>> previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info:
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htmARCHIVES:
>>

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Yes, I called too and chose option 3, to speak with an assistant. She asked
me if there was a bill number, I said no, I'm calling to register extreme
displeasure. She took my zip code.  I will try some other methods also
suggested to me.

Linda


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, steve rosenthal  wrote:

> i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
> assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
> i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.
>
> On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin  wrote:
> > Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
> > time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail
> in
> > this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
> > Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
> >
> > Linda Orkin
> > Ithaca, NY
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
> >> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
> >> Albany
> >> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
> >> to
> >> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
> >> ever
> >> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
> >> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
> >> that
> >> you can follow up if you want to.
> >>
> >> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
> >> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
> >> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency
> that
> >> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard
> copy
> >> your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
> >> worththis is the address I was given.
> >>
> >> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
> >> 1 Commerce Plaza
> >> 99 Washington Ave.
> >> Albany, NY 12231
> >>
> >> Betsy Russell
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  -Original Message-
> >> From: Glenn Wilson 
> >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> >> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
> >> JFK
> >>
> >>  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
> >> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
> >> holiday.)
> >> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
> >> fastest-growing
> >> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
> >> golf
> >> courses and other venues across the country.
> >>
> >> Links to a pdf -
> >>
> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
> >> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
> >> Canada
> >> Geese
> >>
> >> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Cayugabirds-L List
> >> Info:
> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
> >>
> >> ARCHIVES:
> >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds
> >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html
> >>
> >> Please submit your observations to eBird:
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
> >>
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> > bird club!! <')_,/
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> >
> > ARCHIVES:
> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread steve rosenthal

i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.

On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin  wrote:
> Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
> time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
> this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
> Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
>
> Linda Orkin
> Ithaca, NY
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
> wrote:
>
>> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
>> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
>> Albany
>> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
>> to
>> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
>> ever
>> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
>> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
>> that
>> you can follow up if you want to.
>>
>> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
>> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
>> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
>> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
>> your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
>> worththis is the address I was given.
>>
>> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
>> 1 Commerce Plaza
>> 99 Washington Ave.
>> Albany, NY 12231
>>
>> Betsy Russell
>>
>>
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>> From: Glenn Wilson 
>> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
>> JFK
>>
>>  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
>> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
>> holiday.)
>> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
>> fastest-growing
>> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
>> golf
>> courses and other venues across the country.
>>
>> Links to a pdf -
>> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
>> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
>> Canada
>> Geese
>>
>> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel
>>
>> --
>>
>> Cayugabirds-L List
>> Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>
>> ARCHIVES:
>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds
>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html
>>
>> Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>>
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Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Seth Ausubel

I believe that any communication is helpful, despite what the person at the 
contact phone number said.  Two suggestions:

(1) You can contact the Port Authority directly by sending a message from their 
web site at: http://www.panynj.gov/contact/contact-us.htm
(2) Contact the NYSDEC Region 2 Natural Resources Supervisor at 
r2nat...@gw.dec.state.ny.us and ask them to engage with the Port Authority to 
stop the practice of shooting the owls.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Linda Orkin 
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
> Date: December 9, 2013 12:43:00 PM EST
> To: Betsy Russell , nysbirds-l 
> Cc: , CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Reply-To: Linda Orkin 
> 
> Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time 
> sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this 
> day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's 
> office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
> 
> Linda Orkin
> Ithaca, NY
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell  wrote:
> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
> addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
> to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
> that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can 
> follow up if you want to.  
> 
> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in 
> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then 
> send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will 
> most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your 
> complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
> worththis is the address I was given.
> 
> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
> 1 Commerce Plaza
> 99 Washington Ave.
> Albany, NY 12231
> 
> Betsy Russell
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Glenn Wilson 
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
> 
> Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)
> 
> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the 
> fastest-growing 
> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
> courses and other venues across the country.
> 
> Links to a pdf - 
> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
> 
> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of 
> Canada 
> Geese
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell wrote:

> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany
> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to
> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever
> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that
> you can follow up if you want to.
>
> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
> your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
> worththis is the address I was given.
>
> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
> 1 Commerce Plaza
> 99 Washington Ave.
> Albany, NY 12231
>
> Betsy Russell
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Glenn Wilson 
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
>
>  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)
> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the 
> fastest-growing
> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf
> courses and other venues across the country.
>
> Links to a pdf - 
> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada
> Geese
>
> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

The American Museum of Natural History is requesting any dead Snowies to be 
brought to them

Larry Federman
Education Coordinator
Audubon New York
Rheinstrom Hill, Buttercup Farm, and RamsHorn-Livingston Sanctuaries and Centers

From: Marcus Simpson 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:00 AM
To: Nadine Scarpa 
Cc: post NYSBirds 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

If it is not possible to arrange a catch-and-release program at JFK, would it 
be possible to have the airport authorities at least provide the remains of the 
owls to qualified individuals who are studying the species so that some 
scientific value might be obtained?

Marcus Simpson, Jr.
Hendersonville, NC

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Nadine Scarpa  
wrote:

  Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them to 
get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and release 
for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and move them away 
from the airport.

  Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine and 
THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with Snowy 
Owls:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup  wrote:

  Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved 
in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control folk 
at Albany International Airport.

  They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.  
Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking off 
and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage the owls 
from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do shoot the 
owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.  

  While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, 
especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human lives 
for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese are culled 
in many areas.

  Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far 
south.

  Will Raup
  Albany, NY

  > From: nutrich...@rcn.com
  > To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
  > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500

  >
  >
  > Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
  > News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
  > JFK airport.
  >
  >
  >
  > 
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Marcus Simpson

If it is not possible to arrange a catch-and-release program at JFK, would
it be possible to have the airport authorities at least provide the remains
of the owls to qualified individuals who are studying the species so that
some scientific value might be obtained?

Marcus Simpson, Jr.
Hendersonville, NC


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Nadine Scarpa
wrote:

> Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them
> to get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and
> release for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and
> move them away from the airport.
>
> Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine
> and THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with
> Snowy Owls:
>
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847
>
>
>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup wrote:
>>
>>> Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved
>>> in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control
>>> folk at Albany International Airport.
>>>
>>> They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.
>>>  Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking
>>> off and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage
>>> the owls from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do
>>> shoot the owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.
>>>
>>>
>>> While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone,
>>> especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human
>>> lives for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese
>>> are culled in many areas.
>>>
>>> Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far
>>> south.
>>>
>>> Will Raup
>>> Albany, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> > From: nutrich...@rcn.com
>>> > To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
>>> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
>>> > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
>>> > News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
>>> > JFK airport.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
>>> >
>>> >
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Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Nadine Scarpa

Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them to
get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and
release for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and
move them away from the airport.

Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine
and THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with
Snowy Owls:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847



> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup wrote:
>
>> Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved
>> in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control
>> folk at Albany International Airport.
>>
>> They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.
>>  Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking
>> off and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage
>> the owls from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do
>> shoot the owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.
>>
>>
>> While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone,
>> especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human
>> lives for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese
>> are culled in many areas.
>>
>> Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far
>> south.
>>
>> Will Raup
>> Albany, NY
>>
>>
>> 
>> > From: nutrich...@rcn.com
>> > To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
>> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
>> > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500
>> >
>> >
>> > Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
>> > News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
>> > JFK airport.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
>> >
>> >
>> >
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Will Raup

Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved in 
e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control folk at 
Albany International Airport.

They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.  Basically, 
the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking off and 
landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage the owls from 
hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do shoot the owls.  
This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.  

While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, especially 
in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human lives for one, 
two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese are culled in many 
areas.

Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far south.

Will Raup
Albany, NY



> From: nutrich...@rcn.com 
> To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu 
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK 
> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500 
> 
> 
> Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily 
> News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at 
> JFK airport. 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Just wanted to bring everyone's attention to this article in the Daily News
this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at JFK
airport.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-lis
t-article-1.1541823

 

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[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Just wanted to bring everyone's attention to this article in the Daily News
this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at JFK
airport.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-lis
t-article-1.1541823

 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Will Raup

Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved in 
e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control folk at 
Albany International Airport.

They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.  Basically, 
the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking off and 
landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage the owls from 
hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do shoot the owls.  
This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.  

While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, especially 
in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human lives for one, 
two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese are culled in many 
areas.

Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far south.

Will Raup
Albany, NY



 From: nutrich...@rcn.com 
 To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu 
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK 
 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500 
 
 
 Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily 
 News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at 
 JFK airport. 
 
 
 
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Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Nadine Scarpa

Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them to
get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and
release for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and
move them away from the airport.

Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine
and THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with
Snowy Owls:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847



 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved
 in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control
 folk at Albany International Airport.

 They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.
  Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking
 off and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage
 the owls from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do
 shoot the owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.


 While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone,
 especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human
 lives for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese
 are culled in many areas.

 Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far
 south.

 Will Raup
 Albany, NY


 
  From: nutrich...@rcn.com
  To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
  Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500
 
 
  Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
  News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
  JFK airport.
 
 
 
 
 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
 
 
 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Marcus Simpson

If it is not possible to arrange a catch-and-release program at JFK, would
it be possible to have the airport authorities at least provide the remains
of the owls to qualified individuals who are studying the species so that
some scientific value might be obtained?

Marcus Simpson, Jr.
Hendersonville, NC


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Nadine Scarpa
nadinescarpaho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them
 to get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and
 release for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and
 move them away from the airport.

 Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine
 and THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with
 Snowy Owls:


 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847



 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved
 in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control
 folk at Albany International Airport.

 They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.
  Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking
 off and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage
 the owls from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do
 shoot the owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.


 While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone,
 especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human
 lives for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese
 are culled in many areas.

 Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far
 south.

 Will Raup
 Albany, NY


 
  From: nutrich...@rcn.com
  To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
  Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500
 
 
  Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
  News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
  JFK airport.
 
 
 
 
 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
 
 
 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

The American Museum of Natural History is requesting any dead Snowies to be 
brought to them

Larry Federman
Education Coordinator
Audubon New York
Rheinstrom Hill, Buttercup Farm, and RamsHorn-Livingston Sanctuaries and Centers

From: Marcus Simpson 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 9:00 AM
To: Nadine Scarpa 
Cc: post NYSBirds 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

If it is not possible to arrange a catch-and-release program at JFK, would it 
be possible to have the airport authorities at least provide the remains of the 
owls to qualified individuals who are studying the species so that some 
scientific value might be obtained?

Marcus Simpson, Jr.
Hendersonville, NC



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Nadine Scarpa nadinescarpaho...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Canada Geese are culled in many areas because there are TOO MANY of them to 
get rid of any other way.  Boston's Logan Airport is doing catch and release 
for the Snowy Owls - they bait with rodents, and catch them and move them away 
from the airport.

  Canada Geese are so numerous, they can take out more than just one engine and 
THAT'S what takes a plane down.   Here is how Logan Airport deals with Snowy 
Owls:

  
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-airport-takes-approach-snowy-owls-article-1.1541847



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Will Raup hoaryredp...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Through being an active birder in the Albany area and now being involved 
in e-bird, I've gotten to make some contact with the Air Traffic control folk 
at Albany International Airport.

  They are reluctant to report owls, because of situations like this.  
Basically, the Owls because of their size are a threat to airplanes taking off 
and landing.  If I recall, they need to make an effort to discourage the owls 
from hanging out on the runway, but if those fail, then can and do shoot the 
owls.  This is not limited to JFK, but can happen at any airport.  

  While not ideal in my mind, you will be hard pressed to find anyone, 
especially in the government who would potentially risk hundreds of human lives 
for one, two or even 3 Owls.  Its the same reason why Canada Geese are culled 
in many areas.

  Just another risk Snowy Owl's have to deal with when they come this far 
south.

  Will Raup
  Albany, NY


  
   From: nutrich...@rcn.com
   To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
   Subject: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
   Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:22:53 -0500

  
  
   Just wanted to bring everyone’s attention to this article in the Daily
   News this morning regarding the Port Authority shooting Snowy Owls at
   JFK airport.
  
  
  
   
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/snowy-owls-added-port-authority-kill-list-article-1.1541823
  
  
  
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.comwrote:

 I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
 sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany
 where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to
 be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever
 going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
 woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that
 you can follow up if you want to.

 I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
 Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
 then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
 will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
 your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
 worththis is the address I was given.

 New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
 1 Commerce Plaza
 99 Washington Ave.
 Albany, NY 12231

 Betsy Russell



  -Original Message-
 From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
 To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
 Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
 (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)
 www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the 
 fastest-growing
 and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf
 courses and other venues across the country.

 Links to a pdf - 
 digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
 www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada
 Geese

 I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel

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Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Seth Ausubel

I believe that any communication is helpful, despite what the person at the 
contact phone number said.  Two suggestions:

(1) You can contact the Port Authority directly by sending a message from their 
web site at: http://www.panynj.gov/contact/contact-us.htm
(2) Contact the NYSDEC Region 2 Natural Resources Supervisor at 
r2nat...@gw.dec.state.ny.us and ask them to engage with the Port Authority to 
stop the practice of shooting the owls.

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
 Date: December 9, 2013 12:43:00 PM EST
 To: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com, nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
 Cc: caven...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
 Reply-To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com
 
 Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time 
 sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this 
 day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's 
 office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
 
 Linda Orkin
 Ithaca, NY
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote:
 I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
 sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
 where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
 addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
 to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
 that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can 
 follow up if you want to.  
 
 I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in 
 Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then 
 send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will 
 most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your 
 complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
 worththis is the address I was given.
 
 New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
 1 Commerce Plaza
 99 Washington Ave.
 Albany, NY 12231
 
 Betsy Russell
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
 To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
 Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
 
 Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
 (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)
 
 www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the 
 fastest-growing 
 and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
 courses and other venues across the country.
 
 Links to a pdf - 
 digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
 
 www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of 
 Canada 
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 I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel
 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread steve rosenthal

i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.

On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
 time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
 this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
 Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390

 Linda Orkin
 Ithaca, NY


 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
 betsywruss...@aol.comwrote:

 I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
 sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
 Albany
 where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
 to
 be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
 ever
 going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
 woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
 that
 you can follow up if you want to.

 I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
 Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
 then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
 will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
 your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
 worththis is the address I was given.

 New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
 1 Commerce Plaza
 99 Washington Ave.
 Albany, NY 12231

 Betsy Russell



  -Original Message-
 From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
 To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
 Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
 JFK

  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
 (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
 holiday.)
 www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
 fastest-growing
 and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
 golf
 courses and other venues across the country.

 Links to a pdf -
 digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
 www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
 Canada
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Yes, I called too and chose option 3, to speak with an assistant. She asked
me if there was a bill number, I said no, I'm calling to register extreme
displeasure. She took my zip code.  I will try some other methods also
suggested to me.

Linda


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com wrote:

 i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
 assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
 i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.

 On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
  time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail
 in
  this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
  Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
 
  Linda Orkin
  Ithaca, NY
 
 
  On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
  betsywruss...@aol.comwrote:
 
  I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
  sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
  Albany
  where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
  to
  be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
  ever
  going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
  woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
  that
  you can follow up if you want to.
 
  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
  Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
  then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency
 that
  will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard
 copy
  your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
  worththis is the address I was given.
 
  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231
 
  Betsy Russell
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
  JFK
 
   Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
  (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
  holiday.)
  www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
  fastest-growing
  and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
  golf
  courses and other venues across the country.
 
  Links to a pdf -
 
 digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
  www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
  Canada
  Geese
 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks so much Alicia, I just called Barbara Lifton's office. The woman I
spoke with had just read an article this morning (Ithaca Journal?) about
these owls and their arrival so was at least informed as to the underlying
information. She is going to check out who to contact and get back to me.

I did emphasize that we were looking for humane solutions to this problem
and that other airports seemed to do just fine with trap and release. I
also said a Snowy that is trapped and released will not be looking to
return to that airport but would be happen in many wide open farm fields
and refuges.

I will let everyone know what I learn. I feel this can't wait.

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM, t...@fltg.net wrote:

Hi Linda,

I can't send messages to the list from webmail, which is all I can
access from work, but if you or someone else called Assemblywoman Lifton's
office, I am *sure* you could (1) get contact fax info /or email
addresses for the proper supervising agency or agencies, so protests could
go directly to the agencies and not be delayed by the Governor's office
(and BTW, I am not at all sure the DEC *is* the correct agency); and (2)
might get Assemblywoman Lifton's staff to make some independent inquiries
of those agencies, which could have definite and quick impact on the policy
since funding decision for agencies go through the legislature. The object
is to make noise, lots of noise, not to actually change anyone's idea of
what they think would be best ...

Also, all comments should emphasize this isn't a birds vs.people
issue, that there are ways to fully protect both - again, not to persuade
the agency, but just so they can't frame it as crazy birders ignorant of
public safety issues.

Best -

Alicia

P.S. People should cc the governor's office AND Assemblywoman Lifton on
anything sent to any agencies!

P.P.S. Ideally, you also want to send messages to the chairperson of
whatever committee supervises the particular agency - again, the
Assemblywoman's office can give you that information.

- Original Message -
From:
Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com

To:
Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com, nysbirds-l
NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu
Cc:
caven...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
Sent:
Mon, 9 Dec 2013 12:43:00 -0500

Subject:
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
betsywruss...@aol.combetsywrussell@aolcom
wrote:

I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany
where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to
be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever
going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The
woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that
you can follow up if you want to.

I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's
worth...this is the address I was given.

New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
1 Commerce Plaza
99 Washington Ave.
Albany, NY 12231

Betsy Russell

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
JFK

Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is
probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)
www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military
airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf
-
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfprochttp://digitalcommons.unledu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
www.canadageese.org/bcis.html http://www.canadageese.org/bcishtml -
Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the
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[nysbirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread naturelvr1313

Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be passed 
along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. 518-474-8390 is the number 
keep calling.

Sent by me

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From: steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com
To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com
Cc: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com, nysbirds-l 
NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu, caven...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L 
cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28

i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.

On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
 time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in
 this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
 Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390

 Linda Orkin
 Ithaca, NY

 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
 betsywruss...@aol.comwrote:

 I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
 sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
 Albany
 where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
 to
 be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
 ever
 going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
 woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
 that
 you can follow up if you want to.

 I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
 Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and
 then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that
 will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy
 your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
 worththis is the address I was given.

 New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
 1 Commerce Plaza
 99 Washington Ave.
 Albany, NY 12231

 Betsy Russell

  -Original Message-
 From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
 To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
 Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
 JFK

  Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
 (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
 holiday.)
 www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
 fastest-growing
 and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
 golf
 courses and other venues across the country.

 Links to a pdf -
 digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
 www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
 Canada
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Jennifer Clark

I just called and the woman who took my comment said that if the 
governor would take a stand on the issue, it would be reported on the 
front page of his website:http://www.governor.ny.gov/
I also see his Twitter feed appears there. Perhaps it's worthwhile to 
also tweet him our concerns (and with higher public visibility): @NYGovCuomo
--Jennifer


On 12/9/2013 2:18 PM, naturelvr1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be 
 passed along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. 
 518-474-8390 is the number keep calling.

 Sent by me

 - Reply message -
 From: steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com
 To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com
 Cc: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com, nysbirds-l 
 NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu, caven...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L 
 cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
 Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
 Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28


 i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an
 assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as
 i did.  whether of course that has any impact is to be seen.

 On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a
  time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail 
 mail in
  this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood
  Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390
 
  Linda Orkin
  Ithaca, NY
 
 
  On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell
  betsywruss...@aol.comwrote:
 
  I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my
  sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to
  Albany
  where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs
  to
  be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is
  ever
  going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The
  woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so
  that
  you can follow up if you want to.
 
  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in
  Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their 
 system and
  then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the 
 agency that
  will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by 
 hard copy
  your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's
  worththis is the address I was given.
 
  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231
 
  Betsy Russell
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at
  JFK
 
   Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
  (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the
  holiday.)
  www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the
  fastest-growing
  and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases,
  golf
  courses and other venues across the country.
 
  Links to a pdf -
  
 digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
  www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of
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[nysbirds-l] They don't kill Snowy Owls in Boston


See this article from CBC Boston
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/12/09/large-influx-of-snowy-owls-seen-in-mass/

Mass Audubon **relocates** the birds on Logan Airport.

*** How do we get that done here?

Everyone please contact PANYNJ, the Mayor, and the Governor at a minimum!

Arie Gilbert
President - Queens County Bird Club, Inc
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[nysbirds-l] Petition about Snowy Owl killings

Hey All,

The American Bird Conservancy just alerted people to this petition that is
circulating.  For those of you who may not have time or inclination to make
phone calls.

http://www.change.org/petitions/the-port-authority-of-new-york-and-new-jersey-stop-shooting-snowy-owls-at-new-york-metro-area-airports-2?share_id=pSTiVqbmWUutm_campaign=signature_receiptutm_medium=emailutm_source=share_petition

Thanks.

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[nysbirds-l] Queens County Bird Club Inc. - Upcoming Meeting Info-


  
  
The Queens County Bird Club Inc. will be meeting 
at the Alley Pond Environmental Center
228-06
Northern



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http://www.alleypond.com/directions.htm

at 8pm on WednesdayDecember 11 { the third
Wednesday of the month} 

Our Speakers will be Bob Dieterich doing a presentation on "80 years
of the QCBC CBC"

Members and others, we will also be coordinating our CBC at this
meeting so be sure to attend so your efforts can best be put to use.

Non members and guests are invited to join us for our meetings
featuring noted guest speakers and to join us on our renowned field
trips. 

* QCBC is a tax exempt, charitable organization {501c3}. *


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See http://www.qcbirdclub.org/
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at  212 
435-

PLease share with the other listserves!

Thx.
Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
From: Linda Orkin 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time 
sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day 
and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office 
with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390


Linda Orkin

Ithaca, NY




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote:

  I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if you want to.  

  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in 
Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then 
send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most 
likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints 
will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
worththis is the address I was given.

  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231

  Betsy Russell




  -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
Geese

I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


  
  
All

I just contacted the number below and was told it is the 'media
relations' dept. They only field calls from Media organizations

The person there however gave me this alternate contact info; 

Ian Van Praagh, 212-435-6938

I called and left a message. 

Please do so as well, and please pass along to other listserves. 

Arie Gilbert
President - Queens County Bird Club, Inc
http://www.qcbirdclub.org


On 12/9/2013 4:07 PM, Larry Federman
  wrote:


  

  Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations
  Office at  212 435-
   
  PLease share with the other listserves!
   
  Thx.
  Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
  

  
From: Linda Orkin

Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell
  ; nysbirds-l

Cc: caven...@gmail.com
  ; CAYUGABIRDS-L

Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd:
  [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  

 
  
  

  
Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is
  horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive
  issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day
  and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all
  to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls.  (518)
474-8390

  
Linda Orkin

  Ithaca, NY
  

  
  On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM,
Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com
wrote:
I did call the
  NYC phone # given this morning in order to
  register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot
  at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany where is
  was kindly and carefully explained to me that this
  issue needs to be addressed by the public in
  writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going
  to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely
  address it.  The woman said that one should also
  request a reply with contact info. so that you can
  follow up if you want to.  
  
  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way
  the system worked in Albany it should only be hard
  copy. They scan them into their system and then
  send all letters regarding a particular issue on
  the the agency that will most likely address it.
  She explained if it is not done by hard copy your
  complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what
  it's worththis is the
  address I was given.
  
  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231
  
  Betsy Russell


  
 
 
 
-Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l]
  Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
  
  
Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
Geese

I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Alan Baratz

Hi,
I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office.
The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, 
she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem 
to pertain to our kind of concern.
The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of 
calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. 





 From: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net
To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com; Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com; 
nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
 


Here’s another # to call: Port 
Authority’s Media Relations Office at  212 435-
 
PLease share with the other listserves!
 
Thx.
Larry 
Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
 
From: Linda Orkin 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot 
at JFK
 
Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a 
time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in 
this 
day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's 
office with phone calls.  (518) 
474-8390

Linda 
Orkin
Ithaca, 
NY




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote:

Idid call  the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re:  Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was  kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by  the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the  agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one  should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if  you want to.  

I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way 
  the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into 
  their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the 
the 
  agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by 
  hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
  worththis is the address I was given.

New 
  York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
1 Commerce Plaza
99 Washington 
  Ave.
Albany, NY 12231

Betsy Russell
 
 
 
 
-Original  Message-
From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 
  12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being 
  shot at JFK


Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) 
www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc
 www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Audubon New York and NYC Audubon’s Executive Directors “sent  a letter to the 
Port Authority Executive Director (Pat Foye) and JFK’s General Manager. We have 
also alerted Governor Cuomo’s Office (the PA is jointly controlled by NY and 
NJ) and the DEC as to our position.”

Our chapter network’s leaders have been alerted as well.

Thx everyone. Let’s keep the pressure on!

Larry Federman
Northern Catskills Audubon Society

From: Alan Baratz 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 4:19 PM
To: Larry Federman ; Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Hi,
I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office.
The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, 
she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem 
to pertain to our kind of concern.
The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of 
calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. 






From: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net
To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com; Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com; 
nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at  212 
435-

PLease share with the other listserves!

Thx.
Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
From: Linda Orkin 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l 
Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time 
sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day 
and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office 
with phone calls.  (518) 474-8390


Linda Orkin

Ithaca, NY




On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote:

  I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if you want to.  

  I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in 
Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then 
send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most 
likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints 
will enter a big black hole.  For what it's 
worththis is the address I was given.

  New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
  1 Commerce Plaza
  99 Washington Ave.
  Albany, NY 12231

  Betsy Russell




  -Original Message-
  From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
  Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
  Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK


Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin 
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing 
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf 
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada 
Geese

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Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

2013-12-09 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes

Forwarding with permission of Betsy.

Sincerely,
Chris T-H

Begin forwarded message:

From: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.commailto:betsywruss...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Date: December 9, 2013 12:30:46 PM EST
To: caven...@gmail.commailto:caven...@gmail.com, 
cayugabird...@list.cornell.edumailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
Reply-To: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.commailto:betsywruss...@aol.com

I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my 
sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK.  The call was routed to Albany 
where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be 
addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going 
to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it.  The woman said 
that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow 
up if you want to.

I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany 
it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all 
letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely 
address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will 
enter a big black hole.  For what it's worththis is 
the address I was given.

New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
1 Commerce Plaza
99 Washington Ave.
Albany, NY 12231

Betsy Russell

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.commailto:caven...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK

Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)

www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.htmlhttp://www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - 
Border Collies are now the fastest-growing
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf
courses and other venues across the country.

Links to a pdf - 
digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfprochttp://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc

www.canadageese.org/bcis.htmlhttp://www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition 
to Prevent the Destruction of Canada
Geese

I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel

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[nysbirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2013-12-09 Thread Joseph Brin

RBA
 
*  New York
*  Syracuse
* December 09, 2013
*  NYSY  12. 09. 13
 
Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert
Dates(s):

December 02, 2013 - December 09, 2013
to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com
covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge
and Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC) (just outside Cayuga County),
Onondaga, Oswego, Lewis, Jefferson, Oneida, Herkimer,  Madison  Cortland
compiled:December 09 AT 4:00 p.m. (EST)
compiler: Joseph Brin
Onondaga Audubon Homepage: www.onondagaaudubon.org
 
 
#372 Monday December 09, 2013
 
Greetings. This is the Syracuse Area Rare Bird Alert for the week of 
December 02, 2013
 
Highlights:
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CACKLING GOOSE
BRANT
ROSS’S GOOSE
RED-SHOULDERED HAWK
SANDHILL CRANE
ICELAND GULL
GLAUCOUS GULL
LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL
SNOWY OWL
SAW-WHET OWL
RUFOUS HUMMINGBIRD
NORTHERN SHRIKE
HERMIT THRUSH
GRAY CATBIRD
LAPLAND LONGSPUR




Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge (MNWR) and Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC)


     12/6: 4 SNOWY OWLS were seen on the south side of Rt. 31 opposite the 
potato building. also seen were 1 ROSS’S GOOSE and 4 SANDHILL CRANES.
     12/7: The 4 SNOWY OWLS were again seen at the previously mentioned Area in 
the mucklands. Also seen were a LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL, an ICELAND GULL and 
20+ SANDHILL CRANES. Yet another SNOWY OWL was found on VanDyne Spoor Road.
     12/8: 3 of the SNOWY OWLS were refound at the Rt. 31 location opposite the 
potato building.


Extralimital


     12/3: This was the last sighting of the RUFOUS HUMMINGBIRD on Mynderse 
Street  in Seneca Falls.


Onondaga County


     SNOWY OWLS continue their presence at Hancock Airport. Anywhere from three 
to seven have been reported daily.
     12/6: A SAW-WHET OWL has returned to it’s area at Beaver Lake Nature 
Center on the Bog Trail. It was relocated on the 7th. but has not been found 
since.
     12/7: ABRANT was seen along the Creekwalk on Onondaga Creek near Carousel 
Center in Syracuse.
     12/8: A PEREGRINE FALCON was seen hunting at the intersection of Rt. 31 
and 57 in the town of Clay. A NORTHERN SHRIKE was seen at Three Rivers WMA 
north of Baldwinsville. A late HERMIT THRUSH was again seen along the Creekwalk


Oneida County


     12/5: A NORTHERN SHRIKE was seen on Dunbar Road near Camden.
     12/7: A GLAUCOUS GULL was seen on Oneida Lake at South Bay.


Oswego County


     12/8: A late GRAY CATBIRD and a CACKLING GOOSE were seen at Mexico Point 
State Park. Three SNOWY OWLS were seen on the break walls at Oswego Harbor.


Herkimer County
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     A LAPLAND LONGSPUR was found on Peck Road north of Little Falls.


Madison County


     12/3: A GLAUCOUS GULL was seen at the Madison County Landfill.
     12/8: an ICELAND GULL was seen at the Sav-alot gas station in Canastota.

    

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Joseph Brin
Region 5
Baldwinsville, N.Y.  13027  U.S.A.
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[nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...

I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of
Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The
list can be accessed here
http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html

This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers phone
numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other resources to
add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.

Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be
willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This
will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.

Keep up the pressure y'all!

Cheers!

Andrew Baksh
Queens, NY
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...

Thanks Andrew. I have sent this to Cayuga birds also. 

All see below. 

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, ny

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of 
 Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The 
 list can be accessed here 
 http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html
 
 This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers phone 
 numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other resources to 
 add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.
 
 Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be 
 willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This 
 will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.
 
 Keep up the pressure y'all!
 
 Cheers!
 
 Andrew Baksh
 Queens, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls

2013-12-09 Thread Rick Linda Kedenburg

Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get  
more done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the  
regular contact protocol on their website.
Rick

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Rick  Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net
 Date: December 9, 2013 5:24:31 PM EST
 To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov
 Subject: Wasting taxpayers money

 Dear Inspector General,

 This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are  
 misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when  
 they migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are  
 no threat to aircraft!

 Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like  
 stealing money from the taxpayers while violating common decency.

Rick Kedenburg

Port Authority 'wildlife specialists' hunt snowy owls at New York  
City's airports

Whooodunit? Snowy owls, apparently. After one was sucked into an  
airplane turbine, the species has been added to a list of birds that  
'wildlife specialists' kill to protect planes from bird strikes.

Comments (32)
BY THOMAS TRACY , EDGAR SANDOVAL AND TINA MOORE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

MONDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2013, 2:25 AM

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Go directly to the Inspector General of panynj to protect Snowy Owls

Another email to use. Let's increase the pressure and stop this insane 
solution. 

See Rick Kefenburg's email below. 

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, ny

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Rick  Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net 
wrote:

 Hi All, I found this address on the PA website. Maybe people can get more 
 done directly through the PA inspector general's office than the regular 
 contact protocol on their website.
 Rick
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Rick  Linda Kedenburg kedenb...@optonline.net
 Date: December 9, 2013 5:24:31 PM EST
 To: inspectorgene...@panynj.gov
 Subject: Wasting taxpayers money
 
 Dear Inspector General,
 
 This is a travesty and the people authorizing this at the PA are 
 misinformed. Snowy Owls are loners do not fly in flocks and when they 
 migrate it is individually at low levels. Wake up PA they are no threat to 
 aircraft!
 
 Stop wasting our money it does nothing for safety and is like stealing money 
 from the taxpayers while violating common decency.
 
 Rick Kedenburg
 
 
 
 
 Port Authority 'wildlife specialists' hunt snowy owls at New York City's 
 airports
 
 Whooodunit? Snowy owls, apparently. After one was sucked into an airplane 
 turbine, the species has been added to a list of birds that 'wildlife 
 specialists' kill to protect planes from bird strikes.
 
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 BY THOMAS TRACY , EDGAR SANDOVAL AND TINA MOORE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
 
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[nysbirds-l] Upcoming QCBC Meeting


Pardon for the second email

Our meeting will be THIS Wednesday. not our usual third wednesday.

Apologies for any confusion.


Arie Gilbert
President - Queens County Bird Club, Inc
http://www.qcbirdclub.org




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[nysbirds-l] Pressure = results...1st step...

Results from the pressure.  Birder Mike Shanley just posted a press release
from Port Authority to Facebook.


December 9, 2013

CONTACT: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
212-435-

STATEMENT FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY ON SNOWY OWLS

“The Port Authority is working with the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation to move immediately toward implementing a
program to trap and relocate snowy owls that pose a threat to aircraft at
JFK and LaGuardia airports. The Port Authority’s goal is to strike a
balance in humanely controlling bird populations at and around the agency’s
airports to safeguard passengers on thousands of aircrafts each day. Over
the past two weeks, five planes at JFK, Newark Liberty and LaGuardia
airports were struck by snowy owls that have been migrating to our region
in far higher than typical numbers this year.”


# # #

Founded in 1921, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey builds,
operates, and maintains many of the most important transportation and trade
infrastructure assets in the country. The agency’s network of aviation,
ground, rail, and seaport facilities is among the busiest in the country,
supports more than 550,000 regional jobs, and generates more than $23
billion in annual wages and $80 billion in annual economic activity. The
Port Authority also owns and manages the 16-acre World Trade Center site,
where construction crews are building the iconic One World Trade Center,
which is now the tallest skyscraper in the Western Hemisphere. The Port
Authority receives no tax revenue from either the State of New York or New
Jersey or from the City of New York. The agency raises the necessary funds
for the improvement, construction or acquisition of its facilities
primarily on its own credit. For more information, please visit
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of
 Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The
 list can be accessed here
 http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html

 This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers
 phone numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other
 resources to add, please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.

 Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be
 willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This
 will help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.

 Keep up the pressure y'all!

 Cheers!

 Andrew Baksh
 Queens, NY
 www.birdingdude.blogspot.com


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[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owl on runway almost gets walked on.

2013-12-09 Thread Peter Colen

http://www.petercolenphotography.com/Snowy-Owl-on-Runway/i-brpH4tJ

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[nysbirds-l] Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon Society's Monthly Program Wednesday December 11



Plum Island: The Good, the Bad and the Beautiful
with John Turner
Wednesday, December 11, 2013
7:00pm
Cold Spring Harbor Library

What's with the hoopla over Plum Island lately?  
There has been much focus and effort over the past several years to 
save Plum Island, situated off the North Fork of Long Island, with 
efforts really heating up recently.   With over 200 bird species (204 as of 
December 6th's survey!) recorded using the island for breeding, wintering or 
migratory stopover 
purposes, and playing host as the largest seal haul-out site in southern New 
England, over 80% of  Plum Island is critical wildlife habitat.  
This program will cover the major cultural and natural features of the 
Island that so many environmentalists, through the Preserve Plum Island 
Coalition, are working to protect through the creation of a National 
Wildlife Refuge or an equivalent conservation outcome. 

From the old rumors of two headed cows to the new rumors of The 
Donald wanting to build a golf course on the island, Plum Island has 
always been shrouded in controversy.  Join us tonight as we hear the 
truth about this beautiful island, and why conservationists are putting their 
hearts and souls into saving it!  

For more details and to see our other upcoming programs, field trips and 
activities please visit our website.

Stella Miller
President
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon 

Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon works to protect birds and other wildlife, and 
the habitats upon which they depend through education, public 
advocacy and conservation action.
 www.hobaudubon.org
 



Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding 
whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the 
understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is 
between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...

Andrew,

Here is the letter that Audubon NY and NYC Audubon jointly sent to the Port 
Authority.

Stella Miller
Huntington-Oyster Bay Audubon


 



Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding 
whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the 
understanding that the choice is not between wild places or people, it is 
between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man. Thomas Lovejoy



 From: Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com
To: nysbirds-l nysbirds-l@cornell.edu 
Cc: Nyc ebirds ebirds...@yahoogroups.com; jerse...@lists.princeton.edu 
jerse...@lists.princeton.edu 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Resources to use in contacting wildlife agencies and 
elected officials re: Snowy Owl Killings...
 


I have compiled from all the e-mails sent on the subject of the killing of 
Snowy Owls at JFK, a list of the resources a number of you submitted.  The list 
can be accessed here 
http://birdingdude.blogspot.com/2013/12/nyc-kills-snowy-owls-while-boston-saves.html

This way, it is easier than wading through e-mail threads.  It covers phone 
numbers to the online petition link.  If anyone has any other resources to add, 
please e-mail me and I will add it to the list.

Also, if anyone has already penned a letter to the Governor and would be 
willing to share their format as a template, I would gladly add it.  This will 
help those who are too busy to craft one themselves.


Keep up the pressure y'all!

Cheers!

Andrew Baksh
Queens, NY
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

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Audubon Letter to PANYNJ and JFK 12-9-13.pdf
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[nysbirds-l] Port Authority backs off Snowy Owl killings

Looks like the activism worked:

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 9, 2013

CONTACT: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
212-435-

STATEMENT FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY ON SNOWY OWLS

The Port Authority is working with the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation to move immediately toward implementing a program
to trap and relocate snowy owls that pose a threat to aircraft at JFK and
LaGuardia airports. The Port Authority's goal is to strike a balance in
humanely controlling bird populations at and around the agency's airports to
safeguard passengers on thousands of aircrafts each day. Over the past two
weeks, five planes at JFK, Newark Liberty and LaGuardia airports were struck
by snowy owls that have been migrating to our region in far higher than
typical numbers this year. 



Great work, everyone!

 

Christina


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