[nysbirds-l] Kingbird periodicals and other magazines and books available

[Teri]

My father, Larry Holland,a long-time NY State birder and book lover, has left 
his extensive bird book collection to rehome. Many of his books have been 
donated to colleges with ornithology programs (Cornell, William & Mary, 
Virginia Tech and Yale). Primarily, I am hoping to find a home and purpose for 
his magazine collection as well. Namely, the NY State Kingbird periodicals 
complete Spring 1976 thru Winter 1991. Also are near-complete: Living Bird 
1963-1988; American Birds Oct 73- Winter 1988; Birder's World Mar 87- Feb 92; 
Birding Dec 71 - Dec 91; British Birds 1979, 80, 81, 87, 88; and Bird Watcher's 
Digest Sep 78-Aug 88. All are in good condition.
First priority and shipping at media (book) rate will be given to educational 
institutions. Please reply off-list if you are interested in the magazines or 
are interested in seeing the remaining book list. 
Thank you for your consideration,
Teri Holland
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[nysbirds-l] FEA'S PETREL, White-faced Storm-Petrel etc.

[Doug Gochfeld]

We're still off shore, but I figured this deserves prompt mention.

The overnight Paulagics Pelagic trip to the Hudson Canyon area produced
some excellent birds, including FEA'S PETREL, WHITE-FACED STORM-PETREL,
dozens of Band-rumped Storm-Petrels, and a Bridled Tern.

A more thorough trip report will follow, along with eBird reports.

Good Birding
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Hugh McGuinness]

Hooray. This is very exciting. Wish I were going to be there. Now If I can
just get NPS to become similarly enlightened, I might be able to find Semi
Plover in DC and bring my shorebird list to 7! ;)

Hugh




On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Grover, Bob  wrote:

> Hi Hugh,
>
> Actually, there are plans to do just that this fall at Smith Point County
>  Park as part of the Fire Island to Moriches Inlet (FIMI) project.  There
> was a collaborative design effort between the Corps of Engineers, US Fish
> and Wildlife,  the DEC, and Suffolk County to design into the project
> significant areas of shorebird habitat.  I am pretty excited to see the
> finished product..
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Hugh McGuinness [mailto:hdmcguinn...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:41 AM
> *To:* Grover, Bob
> *Cc:* syschiff; NYSBIRDS_L
> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls
>
>
>
> Bob et al,
>
> Do you think this kind of habitat can be manufactured with heavy
> equipment? I remember many years ago a prospective homeowner bulldozed the
> back-dune along Dune Road in Quogue. That first summer that shallow scrape
> filled with fresh water and it was the only time I have ever seen Baird's
> Sandpiper at Shinnecock. THere were many other uncommon species as well. As
> the scrape slowly filled in with Spartina, it became less used by
> sandpipers over the years, but still good birds were to be found for
> several years--a spring Stilt Sandpiper comes to mind. Ever since this
> experience, I have often thought that a bird-minded, government-sponsored,
> environmental conservation organization could create great bird habitat if
> it chose to do so because, of say, people pressuring them to do so.
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Grover, Bob  wrote:
>
> Sy, et al.,
>
> I don’t believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.
> There was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many
> months.  As is often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor
> coastal storm, the entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded
> itself to the beach, enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common
> event around tidal inlets and the process through which sediment is
> bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar was unusual.  As Sy noted, the
> shorebirding was outstanding, and not just shorebirds, as it afforded me my
> lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it attracted were all nicely
> chronicled by Ken Feustel in *The Kingbird*).  Anyway, overtime, the bar
> continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking the pond, until
> it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park or other
> personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the ephemeral
> nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to go
> around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.
>
> Bob Grover
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
> bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *syschiff
>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
> *To:* NYSBIRDS_L
> *Subject:* [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls
>
>
>
> Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.
>
>
>
> In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools
> between the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering
> Bonaparte's Gulls were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in
> plumage similar to the current bird.
>
>
>
> The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads
> of the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach
> because of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that
> were produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.
>
>
>
> Sy Schiff
>
>
>
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Grover, Bob]

Hi Hugh,
Actually, there are plans to do just that this fall at Smith Point County  Park 
as part of the Fire Island to Moriches Inlet (FIMI) project.  There was a 
collaborative design effort between the Corps of Engineers, US Fish and 
Wildlife,  the DEC, and Suffolk County to design into the project significant 
areas of shorebird habitat.  I am pretty excited to see the finished product..
Bob



From: Hugh McGuinness [mailto:hdmcguinn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:41 AM
To: Grover, Bob
Cc: syschiff; NYSBIRDS_L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

Bob et al,
Do you think this kind of habitat can be manufactured with heavy equipment? I 
remember many years ago a prospective homeowner bulldozed the back-dune along 
Dune Road in Quogue. That first summer that shallow scrape filled with fresh 
water and it was the only time I have ever seen Baird's Sandpiper at 
Shinnecock. THere were many other uncommon species as well. As the scrape 
slowly filled in with Spartina, it became less used by sandpipers over the 
years, but still good birds were to be found for several years--a spring Stilt 
Sandpiper comes to mind. Ever since this experience, I have often thought that 
a bird-minded, government-sponsored, environmental conservation organization 
could create great bird habitat if it chose to do so because, of say, people 
pressuring them to do so.
Hugh

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Grover, Bob 
mailto:rgro...@gpinet.com>> wrote:
Sy, et al.,
I don’t believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.  There 
was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many months.  As is 
often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor coastal storm, the 
entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded itself to the beach, 
enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common event around tidal inlets and 
the process through which sediment is bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar 
was unusual.  As Sy noted, the shorebirding was outstanding, and not just 
shorebirds, as it afforded me my lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it 
attracted were all nicely chronicled by Ken Feustel in The Kingbird).  Anyway, 
overtime, the bar continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking 
the pond, until it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park 
or other personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the 
ephemeral nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to 
go around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.
Bob Grover


From: 
bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu
 
[mailto:bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu]
 On Behalf Of syschiff

Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
To: NYSBIRDS_L
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.

In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools between 
the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering Bonaparte's Gulls 
were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in plumage similar to the 
current bird.

The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads of 
the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach because 
of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that were 
produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.

Sy Schiff

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Hugh McGuinness]

Bob et al,

Do you think this kind of habitat can be manufactured with heavy equipment?
I remember many years ago a prospective homeowner bulldozed the back-dune
along Dune Road in Quogue. That first summer that shallow scrape filled
with fresh water and it was the only time I have ever seen Baird's
Sandpiper at Shinnecock. THere were many other uncommon species as well. As
the scrape slowly filled in with Spartina, it became less used by
sandpipers over the years, but still good birds were to be found for
several years--a spring Stilt Sandpiper comes to mind. Ever since this
experience, I have often thought that a bird-minded, government-sponsored,
environmental conservation organization could create great bird habitat if
it chose to do so because, of say, people pressuring them to do so.

Hugh


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Grover, Bob  wrote:

>  Sy, et al.,
>
> I don’t believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.
> There was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many
> months.  As is often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor
> coastal storm, the entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded
> itself to the beach, enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common
> event around tidal inlets and the process through which sediment is
> bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar was unusual.  As Sy noted, the
> shorebirding was outstanding, and not just shorebirds, as it afforded me my
> lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it attracted were all nicely
> chronicled by Ken Feustel in *The Kingbird*).  Anyway, overtime, the bar
> continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking the pond, until
> it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park or other
> personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the ephemeral
> nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to go
> around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.
>
> Bob Grover
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
> bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *syschiff
>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
> *To:* NYSBIRDS_L
> *Subject:* [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls
>
>
>
> Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.
>
>
>
> In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools
> between the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering
> Bonaparte's Gulls were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in
> plumage similar to the current bird.
>
>
>
> The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads
> of the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach
> because of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that
> were produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.
>
>
>
> Sy Schiff
>
>
>
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Grover, Bob]

Sy, et al.,
I don't believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.  There 
was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many months.  As is 
often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor coastal storm, the 
entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded itself to the beach, 
enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common event around tidal inlets and 
the process through which sediment is bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar 
was unusual.  As Sy noted, the shorebirding was outstanding, and not just 
shorebirds, as it afforded me my lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it 
attracted were all nicely chronicled by Ken Feustel in The Kingbird).  Anyway, 
overtime, the bar continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking 
the pond, until it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park 
or other personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the 
ephemeral nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to 
go around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.
Bob Grover


From: bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of syschiff
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
To: NYSBIRDS_L
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.

In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools between 
the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering Bonaparte's Gulls 
were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in plumage similar to the 
current bird.

The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads of 
the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach because 
of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that were 
produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.

Sy Schiff

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Grover, Bob]

Sy, et al.,
I don't believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.  There 
was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many months.  As is 
often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor coastal storm, the 
entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded itself to the beach, 
enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common event around tidal inlets and 
the process through which sediment is bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar 
was unusual.  As Sy noted, the shorebirding was outstanding, and not just 
shorebirds, as it afforded me my lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it 
attracted were all nicely chronicled by Ken Feustel in The Kingbird).  Anyway, 
overtime, the bar continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking 
the pond, until it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park 
or other personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the 
ephemeral nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to 
go around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.
Bob Grover


From: bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of syschiff
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
To: NYSBIRDS_L
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.

In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools between 
the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering Bonaparte's Gulls 
were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in plumage similar to the 
current bird.

The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads of 
the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach because 
of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that were 
produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.

Sy Schiff

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Hugh McGuinness]

Bob et al,

Do you think this kind of habitat can be manufactured with heavy equipment?
I remember many years ago a prospective homeowner bulldozed the back-dune
along Dune Road in Quogue. That first summer that shallow scrape filled
with fresh water and it was the only time I have ever seen Baird's
Sandpiper at Shinnecock. THere were many other uncommon species as well. As
the scrape slowly filled in with Spartina, it became less used by
sandpipers over the years, but still good birds were to be found for
several years--a spring Stilt Sandpiper comes to mind. Ever since this
experience, I have often thought that a bird-minded, government-sponsored,
environmental conservation organization could create great bird habitat if
it chose to do so because, of say, people pressuring them to do so.

Hugh


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Grover, Bob rgro...@gpinet.com wrote:

  Sy, et al.,

 I don’t believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.
 There was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many
 months.  As is often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor
 coastal storm, the entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded
 itself to the beach, enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common
 event around tidal inlets and the process through which sediment is
 bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar was unusual.  As Sy noted, the
 shorebirding was outstanding, and not just shorebirds, as it afforded me my
 lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it attracted were all nicely
 chronicled by Ken Feustel in *The Kingbird*).  Anyway, overtime, the bar
 continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking the pond, until
 it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park or other
 personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the ephemeral
 nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to go
 around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.

 Bob Grover





 *From:* bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
 bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *syschiff

 *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
 *To:* NYSBIRDS_L
 *Subject:* [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls



 Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.



 In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools
 between the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering
 Bonaparte's Gulls were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in
 plumage similar to the current bird.



 The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads
 of the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach
 because of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that
 were produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.



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RE: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Grover, Bob]

Hi Hugh,
Actually, there are plans to do just that this fall at Smith Point County  Park 
as part of the Fire Island to Moriches Inlet (FIMI) project.  There was a 
collaborative design effort between the Corps of Engineers, US Fish and 
Wildlife,  the DEC, and Suffolk County to design into the project significant 
areas of shorebird habitat.  I am pretty excited to see the finished product..
Bob



From: Hugh McGuinness [mailto:hdmcguinn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:41 AM
To: Grover, Bob
Cc: syschiff; NYSBIRDS_L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

Bob et al,
Do you think this kind of habitat can be manufactured with heavy equipment? I 
remember many years ago a prospective homeowner bulldozed the back-dune along 
Dune Road in Quogue. That first summer that shallow scrape filled with fresh 
water and it was the only time I have ever seen Baird's Sandpiper at 
Shinnecock. THere were many other uncommon species as well. As the scrape 
slowly filled in with Spartina, it became less used by sandpipers over the 
years, but still good birds were to be found for several years--a spring Stilt 
Sandpiper comes to mind. Ever since this experience, I have often thought that 
a bird-minded, government-sponsored, environmental conservation organization 
could create great bird habitat if it chose to do so because, of say, people 
pressuring them to do so.
Hugh

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Grover, Bob 
rgro...@gpinet.commailto:rgro...@gpinet.com wrote:
Sy, et al.,
I don’t believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.  There 
was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many months.  As is 
often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor coastal storm, the 
entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded itself to the beach, 
enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common event around tidal inlets and 
the process through which sediment is bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar 
was unusual.  As Sy noted, the shorebirding was outstanding, and not just 
shorebirds, as it afforded me my lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it 
attracted were all nicely chronicled by Ken Feustel in The Kingbird).  Anyway, 
overtime, the bar continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking 
the pond, until it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park 
or other personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the 
ephemeral nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to 
go around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.
Bob Grover


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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
To: NYSBIRDS_L
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.

In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools between 
the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering Bonaparte's Gulls 
were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in plumage similar to the 
current bird.

The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads of 
the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach because 
of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that were 
produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.

Sy Schiff

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls

[Hugh McGuinness]

Hooray. This is very exciting. Wish I were going to be there. Now If I can
just get NPS to become similarly enlightened, I might be able to find Semi
Plover in DC and bring my shorebird list to 7! ;)

Hugh




On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Grover, Bob rgro...@gpinet.com wrote:

 Hi Hugh,

 Actually, there are plans to do just that this fall at Smith Point County
  Park as part of the Fire Island to Moriches Inlet (FIMI) project.  There
 was a collaborative design effort between the Corps of Engineers, US Fish
 and Wildlife,  the DEC, and Suffolk County to design into the project
 significant areas of shorebird habitat.  I am pretty excited to see the
 finished product..

 Bob







 *From:* Hugh McGuinness [mailto:hdmcguinn...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 12, 2014 7:41 AM
 *To:* Grover, Bob
 *Cc:* syschiff; NYSBIRDS_L
 *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls



 Bob et al,

 Do you think this kind of habitat can be manufactured with heavy
 equipment? I remember many years ago a prospective homeowner bulldozed the
 back-dune along Dune Road in Quogue. That first summer that shallow scrape
 filled with fresh water and it was the only time I have ever seen Baird's
 Sandpiper at Shinnecock. THere were many other uncommon species as well. As
 the scrape slowly filled in with Spartina, it became less used by
 sandpipers over the years, but still good birds were to be found for
 several years--a spring Stilt Sandpiper comes to mind. Ever since this
 experience, I have often thought that a bird-minded, government-sponsored,
 environmental conservation organization could create great bird habitat if
 it chose to do so because, of say, people pressuring them to do so.

 Hugh



 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Grover, Bob rgro...@gpinet.com wrote:

 Sy, et al.,

 I don’t believe that is entirely accurate.  First, there was no breach.
 There was a large bypass shoal that had been forming offshore for many
 months.  As is often the case, it had a crescent shape.  During a minor
 coastal storm, the entire shoal migrated onshore as a swash bar and welded
 itself to the beach, enclosing a large coastal pond.  This is a common
 event around tidal inlets and the process through which sediment is
 bypassed, but the magnitude of this bar was unusual.  As Sy noted, the
 shorebirding was outstanding, and not just shorebirds, as it afforded me my
 lifer Yellow Rail (the habitat and birds it attracted were all nicely
 chronicled by Ken Feustel in *The Kingbird*).  Anyway, overtime, the bar
 continued naturally to migrate shoreward, slowly shrinking the pond, until
 it disappeared altogether.  There was no interference by park or other
 personnel.  Rather, it was a wonderful opportunity to study the ephemeral
 nature of coastal sedimentary features.  There is plenty of blame to go
 around in the destruction of habitat, but this is not one of those cases.

 Bob Grover





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 bounce-117712640-3714...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *syschiff


 *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2014 2:02 PM
 *To:* NYSBIRDS_L
 *Subject:* [nysbirds-l] Other summering Little Gulls



 Little Gulls in the summer on Long Island.



 In the early 90's storms had breached Cedar Beach leaving large pools
 between the sand beach and the dunes. In late July 1990, 8 summering
 Bonaparte's Gulls were joined for an extended period by a Little Gull in
 plumage similar to the current bird.



 The easy access birding there produced Godwits, Whimbrel, Stints and loads
 of the more common shorebirds. Until the park personnel closed the breach
 because of water flowing through the widening gap and the rip currents that
 were produced, this was the best shore birding location on Long Island.



 Sy Schiff



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[nysbirds-l] FEA'S PETREL, White-faced Storm-Petrel etc.

[Doug Gochfeld]

We're still off shore, but I figured this deserves prompt mention.

The overnight Paulagics Pelagic trip to the Hudson Canyon area produced
some excellent birds, including FEA'S PETREL, WHITE-FACED STORM-PETREL,
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