[nysbirds-l] Selasphorous Sp. Hummingbird - Aquebogue, Suffolk County

[Eileen Schwinn]

A Salasphorus Hummingbird species, most likely Rufous, was IDed today, at a 
private residence in Aquebogue, not far from Indian Island County Park, 
Suffolk.  The bird was first noted by the homeowners four weeks ago, and has 
been seen continuously, feeding at a well-maintained yard feeder.  Photos have 
been taken, but definitive tail spread photos have not been successful taken.

The homeowners are receptive to visitors, but request a call ahead, since the 
yard is fenced in, and they both work.  The have requested anyone who is 
interested in seeing the bird, please contact me - off the list serve, please - 
and I will put you in contact with them.

Eileen Schwinn
beach...@optonline.net


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[nysbirds-l] Croton Reservoir grebes

[Larry Trachtenberg]

4 pied billed grebes -- driving around from Croton Dam road just before dam, 
three in first cove. Not much other waterfowl; no coots. Where have they gone; 
very scarce last two winters around here. Tree down about 1/2 way round. 

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

[Rick]

Not about a sighting:  Phil just sent a useful note off-line. While I did pivot 
off his particular post in my note below, the topic was how internet 
communication complicates what used to be a more universally organic and 
interpersonal pastime than it is today, and that I find this tendency 
concerning. Nothing more.

 

Back to birding.

 

From: bounce-121021815-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-121021815-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:20 PM
To: 'Phil Jeffrey' ; 'Steve Walter' 

Cc: '& [NYSBIRDS]' 
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Phil, in law that argument would be described as originalist. I was never a 
Scalia fan and don’t subscribe to originalism. (Prefer evolving traditions.) 
And to your other point I don’t mind the occasional upwelling of 
self-expression, even if it may edge toward wordiness. 

 

That said, e-sites are a replacement for what in the past were local bird club 
trips. I grew up as a birder in a pre-internet era, when these experiences were 
the main feature that drew us into this pastime. Open, democratic, chaotic, 
ineffable. You never knew who’d be in your car. Might be hi-performing peers 
quizzing each other as to a species’ identity by reading snippets from a field 
guide description. Or might be newbies thrilling to the experience to which the 
rest of us had long since become accustomed. We “experienced types” always fed 
off that newbie enthusiasm – all the while engaging in an oral tradition that 
honored new experience while passing along whatever knowledge we had acquired 
to the next spiritual generation (age notwithstanding); this practice was an 
essential feature of what we were  doing, and was a large part of what drew us 
to it. 

 

The internet presents complications. Newcomers may repeatedly inject sightings 
with little community significance, without realizing (or in some cases caring) 
that others might not share their interest. Veterans want the hard facts and 
locations, and become intolerant of those who enthuse to lesser experiences. 

 

What concerns me is that in the impersonal and encapsulated environment of the 
internet the communal escalator of the natural history oral folk tradition will 
be damaged. Socialization is difficult in this medium. Some degree of restraint 
and community attachment is required on all sides.

 

No, I do not personally like repeated postings on juncos, Blue Jays, or 
chickadees. And I would like to let people who make those posts know that 
they’re not all that interesting to the rest of us. I used to do that, in a 
subtle way, while driving along in a car in route to a field trip. Now what? 
Troll someone, or ban them from the site? 

 

I’m sure I don’t have the answer to this. Maybe an off-post note to individuals 
to say, politely, that they might want to step up the game a bit. Where they 
might go, how they could get more involved.

 

Finally, I’ve noticed since the election that some of us are venting more, and 
lacking tolerance to a greater extent; and who knows, maybe that’s me as well. 
We need to be careful of runaway angst and spite. If you’re there, maybe try 
this: http://wpo.st/3r6D2. (It discusses the need to go birding amid the fray.)

 

Oops, I see that this has become more than wordy now. Apologies.

 

That’s my two cents, anyway, & good birding,

Rick

 

 

From: bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu 
  
[mailto:bounce-121021658-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Jeffrey
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:56 PM
To: Steve Walter mailto:swalte...@verizon.net> >
Cc: & [NYSBIRDS] mailto:nysbird...@list.cornell.edu> >
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Another option to the drivel

 

Steve was wordily referring to daily digest mode, found via

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

 

Daily digest mode has existed for about as long as list servers have.

 

In the same document tree is the source of at least one part of the identity 
crisis:

http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm

(bear in mind there are syntax errors on the originating page and you may have 
to append ".htm" to some URLs)

 

"The primary purpose of the List is to disseminate information about wild bird 
sightings in and around New York State in a timely manner and to provide an 
effective electronic forum for New York State area birders.

 

Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, 
identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects 
relate to wild birds in and around New York State, are welcomed and encouraged. 
The List is not for the discussion of pet birds."

 

If it's allegedly an RBA list the description currently does not reflect that, 
and has not done so for quite some time.

 

Phil Jeffrey

Princeton

 

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