Fwd: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Forwarding with permission of Betsy. Sincerely, Chris T-H Begin forwarded message: From: Betsy Russell mailto:betsywruss...@aol.com>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Date: December 9, 2013 12:30:46 PM EST To: mailto:caven...@gmail.com>>, mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>> Reply-To: Betsy Russell mailto:betsywruss...@aol.com>> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson mailto:caven...@gmail.com>> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html<http://www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html> - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc<http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html<http://www.canadageese.org/bcis.html> - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Audubon New York and NYC Audubon’s Executive Directors “sent a letter to the Port Authority Executive Director (Pat Foye) and JFK’s General Manager. We have also alerted Governor Cuomo’s Office (the PA is jointly controlled by NY and NJ) and the DEC as to our position.” Our chapter network’s leaders have been alerted as well. Thx everyone. Let’s keep the pressure on! Larry Federman Northern Catskills Audubon Society From: Alan Baratz Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 4:19 PM To: Larry Federman ; Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Hi, I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office. The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem to pertain to our kind of concern. The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. From: Larry Federman To: Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at 212 435- PLease share with the other listserves! Thx. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc. From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell wrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! <')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Le
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Hi, I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office. The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem to pertain to our kind of concern. The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. From: Larry Federman To: Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at 212 435- PLease share with the other listserves! Thx. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc. From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell wrote: Idid call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. > >I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. > >New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit >1 Commerce Plaza >99 Washington Ave. >Albany, NY 12231 > >Betsy Russell > > > > >-Original Message- >From: Glenn Wilson >To: CAYUGABIRDS-L >Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm >Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK > > >Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- >-- >Cayugabirds-L List Info: >Welcome and Basics >Rules and Information >Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >Archives: >The Mail Archive >Surfbirds >BirdingOnThe.Net >Please submit your observations to eBird! >-- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! <')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
All
I just contacted the number below and was told it is the 'media
relations' dept. They only field calls from Media organizations
The person there however gave me this alternate contact info;
Ian Van Praagh, 212-435-6938
I called and left a message.
Please do so as well, and please pass along to other listserves.
Arie Gilbert
President - Queens County Bird Club, Inc
http://www.qcbirdclub.org
On 12/9/2013 4:07 PM, Larry Federman
wrote:
Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations
Office at 212 435-
PLease share with the other listserves!
Thx.
Larry Federman
President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc.
From: Linda Orkin
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM
To: Betsy Russell
; nysbirds-l
Cc: caven...@gmail.com
; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd:
[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is
horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive
issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day
and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all
to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518)
474-8390
Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM,
Betsy Russell <betsywruss...@aol.com>
wrote:
I did call the
NYC phone # given this morning in order to
register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot
at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is
was kindly and carefully explained to me that this
issue needs to be addressed by the public in
writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going
to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely
address it. The woman said that one should also
request a reply with contact info. so that you can
follow up if you want to.
I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way
the system worked in Albany it should only be hard
copy. They scan them into their system and then
send all letters regarding a particular issue on
the the agency that will most likely address it.
She explained if it is not done by hard copy your
complaints will enter a big black hole. For what
it's worththis is the
address I was given.
New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit
1 Commerce Plaza
99 Washington Ave.
Albany, NY 12231
Betsy Russell
-Original Message-
From: Glenn Wilson <caven...@gmail.com>
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>
Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l]
Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin
(And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.)
www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing
and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf
courses and other venues across the country.
Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc
www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada
Geese
I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at 212 435- PLease share with the other listserves! Thx. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc. From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell wrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! <')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
I just called and the woman who took my comment said that if the governor would take a stand on the issue, it would be reported on the front page of his website:http://www.governor.ny.gov/ I also see his Twitter feed appears there. Perhaps it's worthwhile to also tweet him our concerns (and with higher public visibility): @NYGovCuomo --Jennifer On 12/9/2013 2:18 PM, naturelvr1...@yahoo.com wrote: > Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be > passed along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. > 518-474-8390 is the number keep calling. > > Sent by me > > - Reply message - > From: "steve rosenthal" > To: "Linda Orkin" > Cc: "Betsy Russell" , "nysbirds-l" > , , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" > > Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK > Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28 > > > i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an > assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as > i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. > > On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wrote: > > Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a > > time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail > mail in > > this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood > > Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 > > > > Linda Orkin > > Ithaca, NY > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell > > wrote: > > > >> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my > >> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to > >> Albany > >> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs > >> to > >> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is > >> ever > >> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The > >> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so > >> that > >> you can follow up if you want to. > >> > >> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in > >> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their > system and > >> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the > agency that > >> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by > hard copy > >> your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's > >> worth................this is the address I was given. > >> > >> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit > >> 1 Commerce Plaza > >> 99 Washington Ave. > >> Albany, NY 12231 > >> > >> Betsy Russell > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Glenn Wilson > >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L > >> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm > >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at > >> JFK > >> > >> Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin > >> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the > >> holiday.) > >> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the > >> fastest-growing > >> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, > >> golf > >> courses and other venues across the country. > >> > >> Links to a pdf - > >> > digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc > >> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of > >> Canada > >> Geese > >> > >> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Cayugabirds-L List > >> > Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > >> > >> ARCHIVES: > >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > >> > >> Please submit your observations to > eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > >> > >> -- > >> > >> -- > >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* > >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > &g
[nysbirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be passed along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. 518-474-8390 is the number keep calling. Sent by me - Reply message - From: "steve rosenthal" To: "Linda Orkin" Cc: "Betsy Russell" , "nysbirds-l" , , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28 i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wrote: > Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a > time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in > this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood > Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 > > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell > wrote: > >> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my >> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to >> Albany >> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs >> to >> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is >> ever >> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The >> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so >> that >> you can follow up if you want to. >> >> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in >> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and >> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that >> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy >> your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's >> worththis is the address I was given. >> >> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit >> 1 Commerce Plaza >> 99 Washington Ave. >> Albany, NY 12231 >> >> Betsy Russell >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Glenn Wilson >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L >> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at >> JFK >> >> Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin >> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the >> holiday.) >> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the >> fastest-growing >> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, >> golf >> courses and other venues across the country. >> >> Links to a pdf - >> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc >> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of >> Canada >> Geese >> >> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List >> Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and >> Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail >> Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* >> -- >> > > > > -- > Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your > bird club!! <')_,/ > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NY
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Thanks so much Alicia, I just called Barbara Lifton's office. The woman I spoke with had just read an article this morning (Ithaca Journal?) about these owls and their arrival so was at least informed as to the underlying information. She is going to check out who to contact and get back to me. I did emphasize that we were looking for humane solutions to this "problem" and that other airports seemed to do just fine with trap and release. I also said a Snowy that is trapped and released will not be looking to return to that airport but would be happen in many wide open farm fields and refuges. I will let everyone know what I learn. I feel this can't wait. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM, wrote: > Hi Linda, > > I can't send messages to the list from webmail, which is all I can > access from work, but if you or someone else called Assemblywoman Lifton's > office, I am *sure* you could (1) get contact fax info &/or email > addresses for the proper supervising agency or agencies, so protests could > go directly to the agencies and not be delayed by the Governor's office > (and BTW, I am not at all sure the DEC *is* the correct agency); and (2) > might get Assemblywoman Lifton's staff to make some independent inquiries > of those agencies, which could have definite and quick impact on the policy > since funding decision for agencies go through the legislature. The object > is to make noise, lots of noise, not to actually change anyone's idea of > what they think would be best ... > > Also, all comments should emphasize this isn't a birds vs.people > issue, that there are ways to fully protect both - again, not to persuade > the agency, but just so they can't frame it as crazy birders ignorant of > public safety issues. > > Best - > >Alicia > > P.S. People should cc the governor's office AND Assemblywoman Lifton on > anything sent to any agencies! > > P.P.S. Ideally, you also want to send messages to the chairperson of > whatever committee supervises the particular agency - again, the > Assemblywoman's office can give you that information. > > > > - Original Message - > From: > Linda Orkin > > To: > "Betsy Russell" , "nysbirds-l" < > NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> > Cc: > , "CAYUGABIRDS-L" > Sent: > Mon, 9 Dec 2013 12:43:00 -0500 > > Subject: > Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK > > > Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a > time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in > this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood > Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 > > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell > > > wrote: > >> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my >> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany >> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to >> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever >> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The >> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that >> you can follow up if you want to. >> >> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in >> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and >> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that >> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy >> your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's >> worth.......this is the address I was given. >> >> >> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit >> 1 Commerce Plaza >> 99 Washington Ave. >> Albany, NY 12231 >> >> Betsy Russell >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Glenn Wilson >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L >> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at >> JFK >> >> Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is >> probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) >> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the >> fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military >> airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf >> - >> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc<
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Yes, I called too and chose option 3, to speak with an assistant. She asked me if there was a bill number, I said no, I'm calling to register extreme displeasure. She took my zip code. I will try some other methods also suggested to me. Linda On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, steve rosenthal wrote: > i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an > assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as > i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. > > On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wrote: > > Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a > > time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail > in > > this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood > > Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 > > > > Linda Orkin > > Ithaca, NY > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell > > wrote: > > > >> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my > >> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to > >> Albany > >> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs > >> to > >> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is > >> ever > >> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The > >> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so > >> that > >> you can follow up if you want to. > >> > >> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in > >> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and > >> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency > that > >> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard > copy > >> your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's > >> worththis is the address I was given. > >> > >> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit > >> 1 Commerce Plaza > >> 99 Washington Ave. > >> Albany, NY 12231 > >> > >> Betsy Russell > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Glenn Wilson > >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L > >> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm > >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at > >> JFK > >> > >> Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin > >> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the > >> holiday.) > >> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the > >> fastest-growing > >> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, > >> golf > >> courses and other venues across the country. > >> > >> Links to a pdf - > >> > digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc > >> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of > >> Canada > >> Geese > >> > >> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Cayugabirds-L List > >> Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > >> > >> ARCHIVES: > >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > >> > >> Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > >> > >> -- > >> > >> -- > >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* > >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES > > > >> Subscribe, Configuration and > >> Leave< > http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > > >> *Archives:* > >> The Mail > >> Archive< > http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > >> *Please submit your observations to eBird > >> <http://ebird.
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wrote: > Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a > time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in > this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood > Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 > > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell > wrote: > >> I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my >> sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to >> Albany >> where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs >> to >> be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is >> ever >> going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The >> woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so >> that >> you can follow up if you want to. >> >> I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in >> Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and >> then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that >> will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy >> your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's >> worththis is the address I was given. >> >> New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit >> 1 Commerce Plaza >> 99 Washington Ave. >> Albany, NY 12231 >> >> Betsy Russell >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Glenn Wilson >> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L >> Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm >> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at >> JFK >> >> Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin >> (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the >> holiday.) >> www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the >> fastest-growing >> and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, >> golf >> courses and other venues across the country. >> >> Links to a pdf - >> digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc >> www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of >> Canada >> Geese >> >> I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel >> >> -- >> >> Cayugabirds-L List >> Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >> >> ARCHIVES: >> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >> >> Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >> >> -- >> >> -- >> *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and >> Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail >> Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> >> *Please submit your observations to eBird >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* >> -- >> > > > > -- > Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your > bird club!! <')_,/ > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell wrote: > I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my > sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany > where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to > be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever > going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The > woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that > you can follow up if you want to. > > I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in > Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and > then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that > will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy > your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's > worththis is the address I was given. > > New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit > 1 Commerce Plaza > 99 Washington Ave. > Albany, NY 12231 > > Betsy Russell > > > > -Original Message- > From: Glenn Wilson > To: CAYUGABIRDS-L > Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK > > Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin > (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) > www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the > fastest-growing > and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf > courses and other venues across the country. > > Links to a pdf - > digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014=icwdm_wdmconfproc > www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada > Geese > > I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel > > -- > > Cayugabirds-L List > Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds > 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html > > Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > > -- > *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> > Subscribe, Configuration and > Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > *Archives:* > The Mail > Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> > BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> > *Please submit your observations to eBird > <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>!* > -- > -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! <')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK
Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.comwrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.comwrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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Yes, I called too and chose option 3, to speak with an assistant. She asked me if there was a bill number, I said no, I'm calling to register extreme displeasure. She took my zip code. I will try some other methods also suggested to me. Linda On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:28 PM, steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com wrote: i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.comwrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com
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Thanks so much Alicia, I just called Barbara Lifton's office. The woman I spoke with had just read an article this morning (Ithaca Journal?) about these owls and their arrival so was at least informed as to the underlying information. She is going to check out who to contact and get back to me. I did emphasize that we were looking for humane solutions to this problem and that other airports seemed to do just fine with trap and release. I also said a Snowy that is trapped and released will not be looking to return to that airport but would be happen in many wide open farm fields and refuges. I will let everyone know what I learn. I feel this can't wait. Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM, t...@fltg.net wrote: Hi Linda, I can't send messages to the list from webmail, which is all I can access from work, but if you or someone else called Assemblywoman Lifton's office, I am *sure* you could (1) get contact fax info /or email addresses for the proper supervising agency or agencies, so protests could go directly to the agencies and not be delayed by the Governor's office (and BTW, I am not at all sure the DEC *is* the correct agency); and (2) might get Assemblywoman Lifton's staff to make some independent inquiries of those agencies, which could have definite and quick impact on the policy since funding decision for agencies go through the legislature. The object is to make noise, lots of noise, not to actually change anyone's idea of what they think would be best ... Also, all comments should emphasize this isn't a birds vs.people issue, that there are ways to fully protect both - again, not to persuade the agency, but just so they can't frame it as crazy birders ignorant of public safety issues. Best - Alicia P.S. People should cc the governor's office AND Assemblywoman Lifton on anything sent to any agencies! P.P.S. Ideally, you also want to send messages to the chairperson of whatever committee supervises the particular agency - again, the Assemblywoman's office can give you that information. - Original Message - From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com To: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com, nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Cc: caven...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 12:43:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.combetsywrussell@aolcom wrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worth...this is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfprochttp://digitalcommons.unledu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html http://www.canadageese.org/bcishtml - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com
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Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be passed along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. 518-474-8390 is the number keep calling. Sent by me - Reply message - From: steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com, nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu, caven...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28 i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.comwrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http
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I just called and the woman who took my comment said that if the governor would take a stand on the issue, it would be reported on the front page of his website:http://www.governor.ny.gov/ I also see his Twitter feed appears there. Perhaps it's worthwhile to also tweet him our concerns (and with higher public visibility): @NYGovCuomo --Jennifer On 12/9/2013 2:18 PM, naturelvr1...@yahoo.com wrote: Just called they took my zip code and comment and said it would be passed along. She did say they were getting a lot of calls. 518-474-8390 is the number keep calling. Sent by me - Reply message - From: steve rosenthal smr...@gmail.com To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com Cc: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com, nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu, caven...@gmail.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Date: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 13:28 i called the number and if you wait for option 3 (speak to an assistant) you can leave a polite message with a real live person, as i did. whether of course that has any impact is to be seen. On 12/9/13, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.comwrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/!* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
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Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at 212 435- PLease share with the other listserves! Thx. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc. From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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All I just contacted the number below and was told it is the 'media relations' dept. They only field calls from Media organizations The person there however gave me this alternate contact info; Ian Van Praagh, 212-435-6938 I called and left a message. Please do so as well, and please pass along to other listserves. Arie Gilbert President - Queens County Bird Club, Inc http://www.qcbirdclub.org On 12/9/2013 4:07 PM, Larry Federman wrote: Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at 212 435- PLease share with the other listserves! Thx. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc. From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com
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Hi, I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office. The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem to pertain to our kind of concern. The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. From: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com; Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com; nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Cc: caven...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at 212 435- PLease share with the other listserves! Thx. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc. From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote: Idid call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http
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Audubon New York and NYC Audubon’s Executive Directors “sent a letter to the Port Authority Executive Director (Pat Foye) and JFK’s General Manager. We have also alerted Governor Cuomo’s Office (the PA is jointly controlled by NY and NJ) and the DEC as to our position.” Our chapter network’s leaders have been alerted as well. Thx everyone. Let’s keep the pressure on! Larry Federman Northern Catskills Audubon Society From: Alan Baratz Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 4:19 PM To: Larry Federman ; Linda Orkin ; Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Hi, I just called the number for PA Media Relations Office. The woman who answered asked me if I was a member of the media. When I said no, she gave me the info # for the PA, (212-435-7000), but none of the options seem to pertain to our kind of concern. The rep I spoke to at Gov. Cuomo's office told me she has been getting lots of calls and took my zip code along with my complaint. From: Larry Federman birderla...@verizon.net To: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com; Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com; nysbirds-l NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Cc: caven...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Here’s another # to call: Port Authority’s Media Relations Office at 212 435- PLease share with the other listserves! Thx. Larry Federman President, Northern Catskills Audubon Society, Inc. From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 12:43 PM To: Betsy Russell ; nysbirds-l Cc: caven...@gmail.com ; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Thanks Betsy for this information. I think it is horrendous that such a time sensitive and destructive issue can only be addressed by snail mail in this day and age. I am doing as you suggest, but still urge all to flood Cuomo's office with phone calls. (518) 474-8390 Linda Orkin Ithaca, NY On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.com wrote: I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds
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Forwarding with permission of Betsy. Sincerely, Chris T-H Begin forwarded message: From: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.commailto:betsywruss...@aol.com Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Date: December 9, 2013 12:30:46 PM EST To: caven...@gmail.commailto:caven...@gmail.com, cayugabird...@list.cornell.edumailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Reply-To: Betsy Russell betsywruss...@aol.commailto:betsywruss...@aol.com I did call the NYC phone # given this morning in order to register my sentiments re: Snowy Owls being shot at JFK. The call was routed to Albany where is was kindly and carefully explained to me that this issue needs to be addressed by the public in writing, hard copy, snail mail if it is ever going to reach the agency (DEC) that will most likely address it. The woman said that one should also request a reply with contact info. so that you can follow up if you want to. I asked about e-mailing and the woman said the way the system worked in Albany it should only be hard copy. They scan them into their system and then send all letters regarding a particular issue on the the agency that will most likely address it. She explained if it is not done by hard copy your complaints will enter a big black hole. For what it's worththis is the address I was given. New York State Govenor's Correspondence Unit 1 Commerce Plaza 99 Washington Ave. Albany, NY 12231 Betsy Russell -Original Message- From: Glenn Wilson caven...@gmail.commailto:caven...@gmail.com To: CAYUGABIRDS-L cayugabird...@list.cornell.edumailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 9, 2013 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls being shot at JFK Speaking of bird control, it is going to the dogs. grin (And this is probably the wrong forum to talk about goose for the holiday.) www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.htmlhttp://www.birdstrikecontrol.com/bcs.html - Border Collies are now the fastest-growing and most popular form of bird control on airports, military airbases, golf courses and other venues across the country. Links to a pdf - digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfprochttp://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014context=icwdm_wdmconfproc www.canadageese.org/bcis.htmlhttp://www.canadageese.org/bcis.html - Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese I trimmed off the previous stuff. Nigel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULEShttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htmhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes Field Applications Engineer Bioacoustics Research Program, Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road, Ithaca, New York 14850 W: 607-254-2418 M: 607-351-5740 F: 607-254-1132 http://www.birds.cornell.edu/brp -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
