Re:[nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
Last week, I saw a new Killdeer nest in the same spot where the first nest
failed few weeks ago. I am assuming they are the same couple. This time the
nest had three eggs.
Today, I went to check on it and to my displeasure, I saw a feral cat roaming
within 50 feet of the nest area. I immediately suspected the worse. And for
sure, the eggs disappeared and the killdeer no where to be seen.
This is the third failed Killdeer nest I have seen over the last two years in
the same park. Add to it the two failed Oystercatcher nests in the same area,
you can see that feral cats are a huge problem in this park.
I am assuming it is a problem in all of south Brooklyn beaches (like Plumb
beach and Dead Horse Point) because I have seen feral cats everywhere.
In the last two years, 11 killdeer and 15 oystercatcher eggs (of the ones I
have found) have vanished into thin air, or feral cats' stomach.
I wonder if any thing can be done for this issue to help Oystercatchers and
Killdeer thrive here.
Can each park do something on their own to help the situation?
I am hoping.
Gus Keri
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 12:41:30 -0400 Gus Keri wrote
> Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top
> of the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be
> found this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
> This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
> were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
> Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
> In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
> Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas
> had only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood
> in Dead Horse Point.
> In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
> This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
> Gus Keri
>
>
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> wrote
> > div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't
> "surprise" me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you
> refer to as straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and
> marsh islands.
> > What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to
> nest on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> > The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
> >
> > Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> > New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> > 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> > Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> > Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
> we created them" -Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gus Keri
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> > Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
> >
> >
> > While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking
> the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a
> "nest-protective" behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same
> area. It was in an area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have
> never seen Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the
> nests I have seen over the year were build on sand.
> >
> > Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
> >
> > I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of
> a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
> >
> > This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> > It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
> >
> > You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
> >
>
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Re:[nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
Last week, I saw a new Killdeer nest in the same spot where the first nest
failed few weeks ago. I am assuming they are the same couple. This time the
nest had three eggs.
Today, I went to check on it and to my displeasure, I saw a feral cat roaming
within 50 feet of the nest area. I immediately suspected the worse. And for
sure, the eggs disappeared and the killdeer no where to be seen.
This is the third failed Killdeer nest I have seen over the last two years in
the same park. Add to it the two failed Oystercatcher nests in the same area,
you can see that feral cats are a huge problem in this park.
I am assuming it is a problem in all of south Brooklyn beaches (like Plumb
beach and Dead Horse Point) because I have seen feral cats everywhere.
In the last two years, 11 killdeer and 15 oystercatcher eggs (of the ones I
have found) have vanished into thin air, or feral cats' stomach.
I wonder if any thing can be done for this issue to help Oystercatchers and
Killdeer thrive here.
Can each park do something on their own to help the situation?
I am hoping.
Gus Keri
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 12:41:30 -0400 Gus Keri wrote
> Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top
> of the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be
> found this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
> This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
> were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
> Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
> In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
> Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas
> had only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood
> in Dead Horse Point.
> In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
> This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
> Gus Keri
>
>
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> wrote
> > div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't
> "surprise" me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you
> refer to as straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and
> marsh islands.
> > What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to
> nest on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> > The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
> >
> > Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> > New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> > 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> > Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> > Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
> we created them" -Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gus Keri
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> > Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
> >
> >
> > While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking
> the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a
> "nest-protective" behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same
> area. It was in an area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have
> never seen Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the
> nests I have seen over the year were build on sand.
> >
> > Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
> >
> > I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of
> a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
> >
> > This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> > It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
> >
> > You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
> >
>
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Fwd: Re: [nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
I thought some of you might be interested in reading
this Forwarded message From : Smith, Jason Y
(DEC)To : "TURNER","Gus
Keri"Date : Wed, 23 Jun 2021 14:44:21 -0400Subject : Re:
[nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
Forwarded message
div.zm_-2660191220839159060_parse_-8295701277767086281 P { margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0 }
I'm sorry to hear that news. AMOY nests have been doing much better on the
beaches, but I agree there may be more we can be doing for pairs that aren't
breeding on our beaches.
I have developed methods for increasing available nesting habitat in NYS
through man-made solutions that I have recently submitted for funding. If
funded, I'll let you know more...but know that some of us are working on these
issues directly (though most of
my work is focused on Skimmer).
I hear you on your call for more though, and I will try to echo your concerns
into the halls of the organizations you reference.
Best,
Jason
Jason C. Smith |
Biodiversity Ecologist
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
Email:
jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
created them" -
Einstein
From: TURNER
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 8:28 AM
To: Gus Keri ; Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.
These unfortunate results suggest a more active, hands-on protection role by
some individuals/entities is necessary.
> On June 22, 2021 at 12:41 PM Gus Keri wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top of
> the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be found
> this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
> This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
> were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
> Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
> In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
> Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas had
> only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood in
> Dead Horse Point.
> In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
> This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
> Gus Keri
>
>
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> wrote
> > div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
>margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
>ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
>exception. I've even seen reports
of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting as the terns and skimmer have too.
So, while intriguing it doesn't "surprise" me to hear of them trying a
different strategy. Wrack, what you refer to as straw, is a common nesting
substrate available on beaches and
marsh islands.
> > What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
>on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> > The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
> >
> > Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> > New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> > 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> > Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> > Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
>we created them" -Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gus Keri
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> > Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
>external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
>senders or unexpected emails.
> >
> >
> > While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking
>the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
>behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
>area where there is no sand
above the tide level. I have never seen Oystercatcher nest in areas other then
sandy beaches. All the nests I have seen over the yea
Fwd: Re: [nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
I thought some of you might be interested in reading
this Forwarded message From : Smith, Jason Y
(DEC)To : "TURNER","Gus
Keri"Date : Wed, 23 Jun 2021 14:44:21 -0400Subject : Re:
[nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
Forwarded message
div.zm_-2660191220839159060_parse_-8295701277767086281 P { margin-top: 0;
margin-bottom: 0 }
I'm sorry to hear that news. AMOY nests have been doing much better on the
beaches, but I agree there may be more we can be doing for pairs that aren't
breeding on our beaches.
I have developed methods for increasing available nesting habitat in NYS
through man-made solutions that I have recently submitted for funding. If
funded, I'll let you know more...but know that some of us are working on these
issues directly (though most of
my work is focused on Skimmer).
I hear you on your call for more though, and I will try to echo your concerns
into the halls of the organizations you reference.
Best,
Jason
Jason C. Smith |
Biodiversity Ecologist
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
Email:
jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
created them" -
Einstein
From: TURNER
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 8:28 AM
To: Gus Keri ; Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.
These unfortunate results suggest a more active, hands-on protection role by
some individuals/entities is necessary.
> On June 22, 2021 at 12:41 PM Gus Keri wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top of
> the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be found
> this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
> This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
> were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
> Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
> In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
> Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas had
> only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood in
> Dead Horse Point.
> In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
> This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
> Gus Keri
>
>
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> wrote
> > div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
>margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
>ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
>exception. I've even seen reports
of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting as the terns and skimmer have too.
So, while intriguing it doesn't "surprise" me to hear of them trying a
different strategy. Wrack, what you refer to as straw, is a common nesting
substrate available on beaches and
marsh islands.
> > What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
>on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> > The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
> >
> > Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> > New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> > 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> > Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> > Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
>we created them" -Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gus Keri
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> > Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
>external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
>senders or unexpected emails.
> >
> >
> > While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking
>the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
>behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
>area where there is no sand
above the tide level. I have never seen Oystercatcher nest in areas other then
sandy beaches. All the nests I have seen over the yea
Re: [nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
These unfortunate results suggest a more active, hands-on protection role by
some individuals/entities is necessary.
> On June 22, 2021 at 12:41 PM Gus Keri wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top of
> the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be found
> this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
> This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
> were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
> Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
> In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
> Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas had
> only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood in
> Dead Horse Point.
> In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
> This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
> Gus Keri
>
>
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> wrote
> > div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't "surprise"
> me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you refer to as
> straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and marsh islands.
> > What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
> on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> > The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
> >
> > Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> > New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> > 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> > Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> > Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
> we created them" -Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gus Keri
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> > Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
> >
> >
> > While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking
> the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
> behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
> area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen
> Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have
> seen over the year were build on sand.
> >
> > Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
> >
> > I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of a
> sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
> >
> > This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> > It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
> >
> > You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
> >
>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
These unfortunate results suggest a more active, hands-on protection role by
some individuals/entities is necessary.
> On June 22, 2021 at 12:41 PM Gus Keri wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top of
> the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be found
> this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
> This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
> were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
> Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
> In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
> Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas had
> only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood in
> Dead Horse Point.
> In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
> This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
> Gus Keri
>
>
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> wrote
> > div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't "surprise"
> me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you refer to as
> straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and marsh islands.
> > What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
> on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> > The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
> >
> > Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> > New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> > 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> > Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> > Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> > "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
> we created them" -Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gus Keri
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> > Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
> >
> >
> > While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking
> the area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
> behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
> area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen
> Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have
> seen over the year were build on sand.
> >
> > Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
> >
> > I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of a
> sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
> >
> > This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> > It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
> >
> > You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
> >
>
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[nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top of
the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be found
this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas had
only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood in Dead
Horse Point.
In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
Gus Keri
On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
wrote
> div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't
> "surprise" me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you
> refer to as straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and
> marsh islands.
> What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
> on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
>
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Gus Keri
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
>
>
> While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking the
> area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
> behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
> area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen
> Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have
> seen over the year were build on sand.
>
> Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
>
> I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of
> a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
>
> This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
>
> You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
>
> Gus Keri
>
>
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[nysbirds-l] An update on the south Brooklyn beaches nests
Unfortunately, the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the wrack on top of
the rocky beach in Shirley Chisholm State Park has gone. No eggs to be found
this morning. (and no fledglings in the area)
This is the third Oystercatcher nest that failed this season. The other two
were at Plumb Beach and Dead Horse Point.
Also, the Killdeer nest at Shirley Chisholm SP which had 4 eggs has vanished.
In total, 4 nest with 12 eggs have failed.
Last year, similar number of nests for the same species in the same areas had
only two Oystercatcher fledglings and one of them survived to adulthood in Dead
Horse Point.
In total, over two years, one out of 25 eggs has reached adulthood.
This is a really sad situation for these special birds.
Gus Keri
On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:58:37 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
wrote
> div.zm_6577200324689976142_parse_-3632554252250034675 P { margin-top: 0;
> margin-bottom: 0 }Charadriiformes seem to be willing to keep trying to find
> ways to adapt to the loss of nesting habitat. It's nice to see AMOY are no
> exception. I've even seen reports of AMOY trying to adapt to rooftop nesting
> as the terns and skimmer have too. So, while intriguing it doesn't
> "surprise" me to hear of them trying a different strategy. Wrack, what you
> refer to as straw, is a common nesting substrate available on beaches and
> marsh islands.
> What would be interesting to know is did the AMOY gather the wrack to nest
> on, or did they capitalize on an existing deposit of wrack.
> The real question is since they are willing to adapt...are we?
>
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Gus Keri
> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:54 PM
> To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
> Subject: Very interesting finding ATTENTION: This email came from an
> external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown
> senders or unexpected emails.
>
>
> While walking the beaches of Shirley Chisholm State Park today checking the
> area where Oystercatchers nested last year, I noticed a "nest-protective"
> behavior by an Oystercatcher, but it wasn't in the same area. It was in an
> area where there is no sand above the tide level. I have never seen
> Oystercatcher nest in areas other then sandy beaches. All the nests I have
> seen over the year were build on sand.
>
> Suddenly, another Oystercatcher flew off the rocky area after it saw me
> approaching. When I checked the place, I found a nest built on straws on top
> of rocks. It was very surprising to me. I know Willet build their nests on
> these straws but not oystercatcher.
>
> I remember that last year the Oystercatcher nest that was built over the
> very limited sandy area of this beach had failed and most likely because of
> a sea storm, The nest was very close to the high tide line.
>
> This year, the Oystercatchers decided to use a Willet method and build a
> nest on straws on top of the rock, way above the high tide line
> It is a nice way to improvise in harsh conditions and keeping the species
> going. A survival instinct, I guess.
>
> You can see photos of this nest on eBird:
> https://ebird.org/checklist/S89493742
>
> Gus Keri
>
>
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