Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Dominic Garcia-Hall
Try corncrake ;)
Even the ABA has been misspelling it.
What a great find. Did u go for it yet?


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Dominic Garcia-Hall
Try corncrake ;)
Even the ABA has been misspelling it.
What a great find. Did u go for it yet?


On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 at 16:37,  wrote:

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Ardith Bondi
The guide book I looked in had it listed as Corncrake -one word - not under 
crake. 

Fwiw. 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Ardith Bondi
The guide book I looked in had it listed as Corncrake -one word - not under 
crake. 

Fwiw. 

Ardith
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread brian . whipple
Thanks, all, for the answers! Had no idea it was in Nat Geo NA guides. The
“corncrake” vs “crake, corn” in the index was where I was hung up. Should
have tried looking up scientific name in the index.

Thanks again!

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM Robert Paxton  wrote:

> One problem is that it does not appear under "crake" in the index of most
> European field guides - it's indexed as Corncrake. But Crex crex should
> work.
>   Bob Paxton
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:36 AM,  wrote:
>
>> What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread brian . whipple
Thanks, all, for the answers! Had no idea it was in Nat Geo NA guides. The
“corncrake” vs “crake, corn” in the index was where I was hung up. Should
have tried looking up scientific name in the index.

Thanks again!

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:54 AM Robert Paxton  wrote:

> One problem is that it does not appear under "crake" in the index of most
> European field guides - it's indexed as Corncrake. But Crex crex should
> work.
>   Bob Paxton
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:36 AM,  wrote:
>
>> What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe
>> guide with me to work and there’s no sign of Crex crex in it.
>>
>> Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Larry Trachtenberg
I keep an old Peterson in office c. 1980.  In it Corn Crake is shown on same 
page (114-115) listed with "short-billed rails" including Sora, black rail, and 
yellow rail. 

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Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

Hi Brian and all,

Corn Crake is in fact depicted in that book, but on page 110-111, with Quail 
and Button-quail, confusingly a few pages prior to the Rallids.

It is also depicted in the National Geo Guide, and, interestingly, in the old 
Peterson guide (and very nicely at that). Its presence in the last is testament 
to its pattern of more frequent occurrence long ago, prior to its population 
declines in Europe.

Shai Mitra
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe guide 
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Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Larry Trachtenberg
I keep an old Peterson in office c. 1980.  In it Corn Crake is shown on same 
page (114-115) listed with "short-billed rails" including Sora, black rail, and 
yellow rail. 

L. Trachtenberg
Ossining


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Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

Hi Brian and all,

Corn Crake is in fact depicted in that book, but on page 110-111, with Quail 
and Button-quail, confusingly a few pages prior to the Rallids.

It is also depicted in the National Geo Guide, and, interestingly, in the old 
Peterson guide (and very nicely at that). Its presence in the last is testament 
to its pattern of more frequent occurrence long ago, prior to its population 
declines in Europe.

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe guide 
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Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Robert Paxton
One problem is that it does not appear under "crake" in the index of most
European field guides - it's indexed as Corncrake. But Crex crex should
work.
  Bob Paxton

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:36 AM,  wrote:

> What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe
> guide with me to work and there’s no sign of Crex crex in it.
>
> Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Robert Paxton
One problem is that it does not appear under "crake" in the index of most
European field guides - it's indexed as Corncrake. But Crex crex should
work.
  Bob Paxton

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:36 AM,  wrote:

> What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe
> guide with me to work and there’s no sign of Crex crex in it.
>
> Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Matthieu
Hi Brian,

It is in all Europe/Western paleartic bird guides I know, including the 
excellent book you mention by Lars Svensson, Killian Mullarney, Dan Zetterström 
and Peter J. Grant.

Matthieu


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Matthieu
Hi Brian,

It is in all Europe/Western paleartic bird guides I know, including the 
excellent book you mention by Lars Svensson, Killian Mullarney, Dan Zetterström 
and Peter J. Grant.

Matthieu


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> Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Hi Brian and all,

Corn Crake is in fact depicted in that book, but on page 110-111, with Quail 
and Button-quail, confusingly a few pages prior to the Rallids.

It is also depicted in the National Geo Guide, and, interestingly, in the old 
Peterson guide (and very nicely at that). Its presence in the last is testament 
to its pattern of more frequent occurrence long ago, prior to its population 
declines in Europe.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Shaibal Mitra
Hi Brian and all,

Corn Crake is in fact depicted in that book, but on page 110-111, with Quail 
and Button-quail, confusingly a few pages prior to the Rallids.

It is also depicted in the National Geo Guide, and, interestingly, in the old 
Peterson guide (and very nicely at that). Its presence in the last is testament 
to its pattern of more frequent occurrence long ago, prior to its population 
declines in Europe.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore

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What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe guide 
with me to work and there’s no sign of Crex crex in it.

Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Jim Cook
I looked at my guides this morning and noticed that the bird is listed in
Accidentals section (back of guide) in my Peterson's Field Guide, Eastern
Birds...

Reference:
https://www.amazon.com/Peterson-Field-Guides-Eastern-Birds/dp/039526619X

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:36 AM,  wrote:

> What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe
> guide with me to work and there’s no sign of Crex crex in it.
>
> Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread Jim Cook
I looked at my guides this morning and noticed that the bird is listed in
Accidentals section (back of guide) in my Peterson's Field Guide, Eastern
Birds...

Reference:
https://www.amazon.com/Peterson-Field-Guides-Eastern-Birds/dp/039526619X

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:36 AM,  wrote:

> What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe
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> Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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[nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread brian . whipple
What field guide is this bird in? I lugged my Svennson Birds of Europe
guide with me to work and there’s no sign of Crex crex in it.

Did its common and scientific names change recently?
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[nysbirds-l] Corn Crake question: field guide?

2017-11-08 Thread brian . whipple
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