Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Andrew Baksh 
Hi Lloyd,

In hindsight, I regretted not answering the bell when you called prior to 
disbanding Metro Birding Briefs. Like you, I thought the other mediums were 
sufficient for NYC/S Bird coverage and still do.

I don't mind setting up something along the lines of MBB but I warn that I 
would be quite strict on what gets reported.

Additionally, I should add that a few years ago I setup a twitter account for 
NY rarities. The account has not seen much activity of late but that 
could/easily change. It can be used by anyone wanting to tweet a NYS rarity 
out. The handle is, @NYRareBirdAlert.

Rather than create another e-mail, I should add that a day of soggy Gulling 
from Floyd Bennett Field Brooklyn to as far as Robert Moses Long Island did not 
net me much. Highlights included a 3rd cycle type Lesser Black-backed Gull on 
the beach @ Field 5 RMSP and 1 juvenile Herring Gull, at FBF in front of the 
Aviator Building. The juvenile HERG (Herring Gull), was a rather clean looking 
individual, suggesting one from a local colony.

Hopefully, no one kvetches about me slipping Gull stuff in here 

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Lloyd Spitalnik  
> wrote:
> 
> When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived its 
> usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their  Rarity 
> sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time out of my 
> life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but somebody (Andrew B. 
> or even Dave K.) could set it up quite easily. Initially all it requires is 
> setting up a list of acceptable birds to be reported. I used YahooGroups 
> which is free to set it up. The main thing is whoever volunteers to do it has 
> to be very strict about what is sent to the list. Integrity of the list is 
> paramount. At least that's the way I maintained it. Several people over the 
> years were taken off the site.
> Birding Dude and Dave, how about it?
> All my best,
> Lloyd
> ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Arie Gilbert  
>> wrote:
>> Paul,
>> 
>> I concur. However...
>> 
>> Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually like 
>> the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who can get 
>> an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for a trip to 
>> this area, etc.
>> 
>> Back in the early days of the internet, with dial-up modems and pay per 
>> amount of time/data, there was a convention that should be resurrected. Trip 
>> reports were prefaced 'TR' in the subject line, rare birds were 'RBA', 
>> requests for information were 'RFI', and so on. That way after downloading 
>> the subject headers in one pass, {to save one from using up their monthly 
>> limit } one could go back in a second pass and download just the messages 
>> interested in.
>> 
>> As far as too many Western tanager reports,  provided its in the subject 
>> line its quite rapid to hit delete, but for those who are encumbered by work 
>> and other annoying distractions, knowing that a bird is still present { ie 
>> what is otherwise construed as too many reports } helps.   
>> 
>> If one uses an 'email client' such as Thunderbird, one can set up 'filters'. 
>>  These can automatically delete unwanted messages and more.
>> 
>> But what if we think of the list as a newspaper kinda.  There is the comics, 
>> the financials, the sports pages, the local news etc. Do folks complain 
>> there is too much news and not enough comics? 
>> 
>> I wish that more stuff around the state was reported, and cross-posted from 
>> regional lists as well.  In addition to TR or RFI or RBA adding the 'county' 
>> in the subject line would help too. 
>> 
>> Or perhaps we can get Lloyd to come out of retirement and put his Metro 
>> Birding Briefs back on.  ;)
>> 
>> Arie Gilbert
>> North Babylon, NY
>> 
>> WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com 
>>  WWW.qcbirdclub.org 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/30/2016 9:28 AM, Paul R Sweet wrote:
>>> Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds 
>>> than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an 
>>> appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird 
>>> walk lists to this list? Just my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History 
>>> | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 |

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Andrew Baksh 
Hi Lloyd,

In hindsight, I regretted not answering the bell when you called prior to 
disbanding Metro Birding Briefs. Like you, I thought the other mediums were 
sufficient for NYC/S Bird coverage and still do.

I don't mind setting up something along the lines of MBB but I warn that I 
would be quite strict on what gets reported.

Additionally, I should add that a few years ago I setup a twitter account for 
NY rarities. The account has not seen much activity of late but that 
could/easily change. It can be used by anyone wanting to tweet a NYS rarity 
out. The handle is, @NYRareBirdAlert.

Rather than create another e-mail, I should add that a day of soggy Gulling 
from Floyd Bennett Field Brooklyn to as far as Robert Moses Long Island did not 
net me much. Highlights included a 3rd cycle type Lesser Black-backed Gull on 
the beach @ Field 5 RMSP and 1 juvenile Herring Gull, at FBF in front of the 
Aviator Building. The juvenile HERG (Herring Gull), was a rather clean looking 
individual, suggesting one from a local colony.

Hopefully, no one kvetches about me slipping Gull stuff in here 

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (__/)
> (= '.'=)
> (") _ (") 
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Nov 30, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Lloyd Spitalnik  
> wrote:
> 
> When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived its 
> usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their  Rarity 
> sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time out of my 
> life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but somebody (Andrew B. 
> or even Dave K.) could set it up quite easily. Initially all it requires is 
> setting up a list of acceptable birds to be reported. I used YahooGroups 
> which is free to set it up. The main thing is whoever volunteers to do it has 
> to be very strict about what is sent to the list. Integrity of the list is 
> paramount. At least that's the way I maintained it. Several people over the 
> years were taken off the site.
> Birding Dude and Dave, how about it?
> All my best,
> Lloyd
> ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Arie Gilbert  
>> wrote:
>> Paul,
>> 
>> I concur. However...
>> 
>> Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually like 
>> the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who can get 
>> an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for a trip to 
>> this area, etc.
>> 
>> Back in the early days of the internet, with dial-up modems and pay per 
>> amount of time/data, there was a convention that should be resurrected. Trip 
>> reports were prefaced 'TR' in the subject line, rare birds were 'RBA', 
>> requests for information were 'RFI', and so on. That way after downloading 
>> the subject headers in one pass, {to save one from using up their monthly 
>> limit } one could go back in a second pass and download just the messages 
>> interested in.
>> 
>> As far as too many Western tanager reports,  provided its in the subject 
>> line its quite rapid to hit delete, but for those who are encumbered by work 
>> and other annoying distractions, knowing that a bird is still present { ie 
>> what is otherwise construed as too many reports } helps.   
>> 
>> If one uses an 'email client' such as Thunderbird, one can set up 'filters'. 
>>  These can automatically delete unwanted messages and more.
>> 
>> But what if we think of the list as a newspaper kinda.  There is the comics, 
>> the financials, the sports pages, the local news etc. Do folks complain 
>> there is too much news and not enough comics? 
>> 
>> I wish that more stuff around the state was reported, and cross-posted from 
>> regional lists as well.  In addition to TR or RFI or RBA adding the 'county' 
>> in the subject line would help too. 
>> 
>> Or perhaps we can get Lloyd to come out of retirement and put his Metro 
>> Birding Briefs back on.  ;)
>> 
>> Arie Gilbert
>> North Babylon, NY
>> 
>> WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com 
>>  WWW.qcbirdclub.org 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/30/2016 9:28 AM, Paul R Sweet wrote:
>>> Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds 
>>> than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an 
>>> appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird 
>>> walk lists to this list? Just my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History 
>>> | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 
>>> 5941
>>> 
>>> On Nov

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread David Barrett 
When the discussion about rare bird posting options began a little over a
week ago, I was not sure a new list was needed. As others have pointed out,
NYSBirds serves a variety of purposes well, and it already has a relatively
large user base. To create yet another source for alerts -- in addition to
NYSBirds, eBird alerts, and the county-oriented Twitter/SMS alerts -- might
only serve to further fragment reporting. It probably would be better for
those who do not want certain kinds of reports to learn how to use Gmail
filters and labels (as I do) to limit what appears in the inbox and what
triggers an audible alert on the phone (the latter more restrictive than
the former).

That said, I did experiment with creating two lists using Google Groups,
which I believe offers the most feature-rich environment and, like Yahoo
Groups, is free.

The first, designed just for Manhattan, already has some reports on it, so
you can see the look and functionality:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/manhattan-rare-bird-alert

I also created but did not populate a similar list for New York City. I am
not sure what area people want covered.

If there is sufficient interest, I would be happy to work further on
implementing such a list -- which is, to say, setting a geographical range
for it, fine-tuning the posting rules, and requesting people to sign up for
posting privileges. Send your feedback directly, if you wish.

David Barrett
Manhattan



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Lloyd Spitalnik <
ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com> wrote:

> When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived
> its usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their
>  Rarity sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time
> out of my life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but
> somebody (Andrew B. or even Dave K.) could set it up quite easily.
> Initially all it requires is setting up a list of acceptable birds to be
> reported. I used YahooGroups which is free to set it up. The main thing is
> whoever volunteers to do it has to be very strict about what is sent to the
> list. Integrity of the list is paramount. At least that's the way I
> maintained it. Several people over the years were taken off the site.
> Birding Dude and Dave, how about it?
> All my best,
> Lloyd
> ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Arie Gilbert 
> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I concur. However...
>>
>> Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually
>> like the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who
>> can get an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for
>> a trip to this area, etc.
>>
>> Back in the early days of the internet, with dial-up modems and pay per
>> amount of time/data, there was a convention that should be resurrected.
>> Trip reports were prefaced 'TR' in the subject line, rare birds were 'RBA',
>> requests for information were 'RFI', and so on. That way after downloading
>> the subject headers in one pass, {to save one from using up their monthly
>> limit } one could go back in a second pass and download just the messages
>> interested in.
>>
>> As far as too many Western tanager reports,  provided its in the subject
>> line its quite rapid to hit delete, but for those who are encumbered by
>> work and other annoying distractions, knowing that a bird is still present
>> { ie what is otherwise construed as too many reports } helps.
>>
>> If one uses an 'email client' such as Thunderbird, one can set up
>> 'filters'.  These can automatically delete unwanted messages and more.
>>
>> But what if we think of the list as a newspaper kinda.  There is the
>> comics, the financials, the sports pages, the local news etc. Do folks
>> complain there is too much news and not enough comics?
>>
>> I wish that more stuff around the state was reported, and cross-posted
>> from regional lists as well.  In addition to TR or RFI or RBA adding the
>> 'county' in the subject line would help too.
>>
>> Or perhaps we can get Lloyd to come out of retirement and put his Metro
>> Birding Briefs back on.  ;)
>>
>> Arie Gilbert
>> North Babylon, NY
>>
>> WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com
>>  WWW.qcbirdclub.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2016 9:28 AM, Paul R Sweet wrote:
>>
>> Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds
>> than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an
>> appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird
>> walk lists to this list? Just my opinion.
>>
>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural
>> History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780
>> <(212)%20769-5780> | Mob 718 757 5941 <(718)%20757-5941>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Deborah Allen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In my opinion, one report per day giving the general area

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread David Barrett 
When the discussion about rare bird posting options began a little over a
week ago, I was not sure a new list was needed. As others have pointed out,
NYSBirds serves a variety of purposes well, and it already has a relatively
large user base. To create yet another source for alerts -- in addition to
NYSBirds, eBird alerts, and the county-oriented Twitter/SMS alerts -- might
only serve to further fragment reporting. It probably would be better for
those who do not want certain kinds of reports to learn how to use Gmail
filters and labels (as I do) to limit what appears in the inbox and what
triggers an audible alert on the phone (the latter more restrictive than
the former).

That said, I did experiment with creating two lists using Google Groups,
which I believe offers the most feature-rich environment and, like Yahoo
Groups, is free.

The first, designed just for Manhattan, already has some reports on it, so
you can see the look and functionality:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/manhattan-rare-bird-alert

I also created but did not populate a similar list for New York City. I am
not sure what area people want covered.

If there is sufficient interest, I would be happy to work further on
implementing such a list -- which is, to say, setting a geographical range
for it, fine-tuning the posting rules, and requesting people to sign up for
posting privileges. Send your feedback directly, if you wish.

David Barrett
Manhattan



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Lloyd Spitalnik <
ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com> wrote:

> When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived
> its usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their
>  Rarity sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time
> out of my life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but
> somebody (Andrew B. or even Dave K.) could set it up quite easily.
> Initially all it requires is setting up a list of acceptable birds to be
> reported. I used YahooGroups which is free to set it up. The main thing is
> whoever volunteers to do it has to be very strict about what is sent to the
> list. Integrity of the list is paramount. At least that's the way I
> maintained it. Several people over the years were taken off the site.
> Birding Dude and Dave, how about it?
> All my best,
> Lloyd
> ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Arie Gilbert 
> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I concur. However...
>>
>> Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually
>> like the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who
>> can get an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for
>> a trip to this area, etc.
>>
>> Back in the early days of the internet, with dial-up modems and pay per
>> amount of time/data, there was a convention that should be resurrected.
>> Trip reports were prefaced 'TR' in the subject line, rare birds were 'RBA',
>> requests for information were 'RFI', and so on. That way after downloading
>> the subject headers in one pass, {to save one from using up their monthly
>> limit } one could go back in a second pass and download just the messages
>> interested in.
>>
>> As far as too many Western tanager reports,  provided its in the subject
>> line its quite rapid to hit delete, but for those who are encumbered by
>> work and other annoying distractions, knowing that a bird is still present
>> { ie what is otherwise construed as too many reports } helps.
>>
>> If one uses an 'email client' such as Thunderbird, one can set up
>> 'filters'.  These can automatically delete unwanted messages and more.
>>
>> But what if we think of the list as a newspaper kinda.  There is the
>> comics, the financials, the sports pages, the local news etc. Do folks
>> complain there is too much news and not enough comics?
>>
>> I wish that more stuff around the state was reported, and cross-posted
>> from regional lists as well.  In addition to TR or RFI or RBA adding the
>> 'county' in the subject line would help too.
>>
>> Or perhaps we can get Lloyd to come out of retirement and put his Metro
>> Birding Briefs back on.  ;)
>>
>> Arie Gilbert
>> North Babylon, NY
>>
>> WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com
>>  WWW.qcbirdclub.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/30/2016 9:28 AM, Paul R Sweet wrote:
>>
>> Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds
>> than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an
>> appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird
>> walk lists to this list? Just my opinion.
>>
>> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural
>> History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780
>> <(212)%20769-5780> | Mob 718 757 5941 <(718)%20757-5941>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Deborah Allen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In my opinion, one report per day giving the general area where the bird
>> was found is sufficient.
>>
>> Deb

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Lloyd Spitalnik 
When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived its
usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their  Rarity
sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time out of my
life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but somebody (Andrew
B. or even Dave K.) could set it up quite easily. Initially all it requires
is setting up a list of acceptable birds to be reported. I used YahooGroups
which is free to set it up. The main thing is whoever volunteers to do it
has to be very strict about what is sent to the list. Integrity of the list
is paramount. At least that's the way I maintained it. Several people over
the years were taken off the site.
Birding Dude and Dave, how about it?
All my best,
Lloyd
ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Arie Gilbert 
wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I concur. However...
>
> Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually
> like the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who
> can get an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for
> a trip to this area, etc.
>
> Back in the early days of the internet, with dial-up modems and pay per
> amount of time/data, there was a convention that should be resurrected.
> Trip reports were prefaced 'TR' in the subject line, rare birds were 'RBA',
> requests for information were 'RFI', and so on. That way after downloading
> the subject headers in one pass, {to save one from using up their monthly
> limit } one could go back in a second pass and download just the messages
> interested in.
>
> As far as too many Western tanager reports,  provided its in the subject
> line its quite rapid to hit delete, but for those who are encumbered by
> work and other annoying distractions, knowing that a bird is still present
> { ie what is otherwise construed as too many reports } helps.
>
> If one uses an 'email client' such as Thunderbird, one can set up
> 'filters'.  These can automatically delete unwanted messages and more.
>
> But what if we think of the list as a newspaper kinda.  There is the
> comics, the financials, the sports pages, the local news etc. Do folks
> complain there is too much news and not enough comics?
>
> I wish that more stuff around the state was reported, and cross-posted
> from regional lists as well.  In addition to TR or RFI or RBA adding the
> 'county' in the subject line would help too.
>
> Or perhaps we can get Lloyd to come out of retirement and put his Metro
> Birding Briefs back on.  ;)
>
> Arie Gilbert
> North Babylon, NY
>
> WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com
>  WWW.qcbirdclub.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 9:28 AM, Paul R Sweet wrote:
>
> Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds
> than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an
> appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird
> walk lists to this list? Just my opinion.
>
> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural
> History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780
> <(212)%20769-5780> | Mob 718 757 5941 <(718)%20757-5941>
>
> On Nov 29, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Deborah Allen 
> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, one report per day giving the general area where the bird
> was found is sufficient.
>
> Deb Allen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: brian.whip...@gmail.com
> Sent: Nov 29, 2016 9:27 AM
> To: Dennis Hrehowsik , "nysbirds-l@cornell.edu"
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager city hall pk Manhattan YES
>
> I'm not tired of it. I still haven't been able to find time to see the
> bird, what with being out of town for Thanksgiving and being at work, so I
> appreciate the updates. I still want to know if I have a chance whenever I
> find time to run to City Hall Park. I would guess I'm speaking for other
> birders too. In my opinion, a rarity is post-worthy for as long as it's
> present. Thanks for posting, Dennis.
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:17 AM Dennis Hrehowsik <
> deepseagangs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure everyone is tired of reports about this bird and (I won't say
>> but) it continues in same location of city hall park (east west path in NE
>> corner) for anyone who was considering trying for it.  Bird was hunkered in
>> a tree with yellow leaves on south side of east west path near city hall
>> gate it made one or two little half hearted nasally calls which alerted me
>> to its presence.
>>
>> Dennis Hrehowsik
>> Brooklyn
>> --
>>
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME
>> 
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES
>>

Re: [nysbirds-l] Netiquette & Western Tanager report fatigue

2016-11-30 Thread Lloyd Spitalnik 
When I disbanded Metro Birding Briefs it was because I felt it outlived its
usefulness. There were too many other places were reporting their  Rarity
sightings and info was getting diluted. It didn't take much time out of my
life to run it. I'm not interested in resurrecting it but somebody (Andrew
B. or even Dave K.) could set it up quite easily. Initially all it requires
is setting up a list of acceptable birds to be reported. I used YahooGroups
which is free to set it up. The main thing is whoever volunteers to do it
has to be very strict about what is sent to the list. Integrity of the list
is paramount. At least that's the way I maintained it. Several people over
the years were taken off the site.
Birding Dude and Dave, how about it?
All my best,
Lloyd
ll...@lloydspitalnikphotos.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Arie Gilbert 
wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I concur. However...
>
> Not everyone seeks the same info from 'the list'.  Some folks actually
> like the daily reports of non rarities, {go figure} such as visitors who
> can get an idea of whats around by reading the archives in preparation for
> a trip to this area, etc.
>
> Back in the early days of the internet, with dial-up modems and pay per
> amount of time/data, there was a convention that should be resurrected.
> Trip reports were prefaced 'TR' in the subject line, rare birds were 'RBA',
> requests for information were 'RFI', and so on. That way after downloading
> the subject headers in one pass, {to save one from using up their monthly
> limit } one could go back in a second pass and download just the messages
> interested in.
>
> As far as too many Western tanager reports,  provided its in the subject
> line its quite rapid to hit delete, but for those who are encumbered by
> work and other annoying distractions, knowing that a bird is still present
> { ie what is otherwise construed as too many reports } helps.
>
> If one uses an 'email client' such as Thunderbird, one can set up
> 'filters'.  These can automatically delete unwanted messages and more.
>
> But what if we think of the list as a newspaper kinda.  There is the
> comics, the financials, the sports pages, the local news etc. Do folks
> complain there is too much news and not enough comics?
>
> I wish that more stuff around the state was reported, and cross-posted
> from regional lists as well.  In addition to TR or RFI or RBA adding the
> 'county' in the subject line would help too.
>
> Or perhaps we can get Lloyd to come out of retirement and put his Metro
> Birding Briefs back on.  ;)
>
> Arie Gilbert
> North Babylon, NY
>
> WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com
>  WWW.qcbirdclub.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 9:28 AM, Paul R Sweet wrote:
>
> Personally I'd rather my inbox fill with reports of genuinely rare birds
> than mundane daily lists of birds seen in Central Park. E-bird is an
> appropriate place for this data? What if everyone posted their daily bird
> walk lists to this list? Just my opinion.
>
> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural
> History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780
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> On Nov 29, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Deborah Allen 
> wrote:
>
> In my opinion, one report per day giving the general area where the bird
> was found is sufficient.
>
> Deb Allen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: brian.whip...@gmail.com
> Sent: Nov 29, 2016 9:27 AM
> To: Dennis Hrehowsik , "nysbirds-l@cornell.edu"
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Western Tanager city hall pk Manhattan YES
>
> I'm not tired of it. I still haven't been able to find time to see the
> bird, what with being out of town for Thanksgiving and being at work, so I
> appreciate the updates. I still want to know if I have a chance whenever I
> find time to run to City Hall Park. I would guess I'm speaking for other
> birders too. In my opinion, a rarity is post-worthy for as long as it's
> present. Thanks for posting, Dennis.
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:17 AM Dennis Hrehowsik <
> deepseagangs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure everyone is tired of reports about this bird and (I won't say
>> but) it continues in same location of city hall park (east west path in NE
>> corner) for anyone who was considering trying for it.  Bird was hunkered in
>> a tree with yellow leaves on south side of east west path near city hall
>> gate it made one or two little half hearted nasally calls which alerted me
>> to its presence.
>>
>> Dennis Hrehowsik
>> Brooklyn
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