Re: [obrolan-bandar] Buah ranum ASII

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik Tony Hidayat





eitt saya ngak ikut mungut buah ASII donk :P 
:D
saya kemarin cuma coba pungunt pnbn eh malah 
ketiban buah jatoh, jd sempet pusing juga..
tapi udah di cut kok :)).. sekarang cuma megang 
uang doank ngak ada posisi..maklum newbie masih rada2 takut ngeliat badai 
seperti ini

tapi kl saya perhatikan, ada unsur "ketidak adilan" 
dalam medan perang BEJ antara kubu bandar/sesepuh/pakar melawan kubu newbie/bu 
pun su/bodoh
dimana ketidak adilannya? yah di perlengakapan yg 
dimiliki :D.. dikubu yg satu fasilitasnya lengkap, pake AK47 dan granat(bisa 
ngeshort) dikubu yg lain cuma ada pistol..
jadi kebayang dunk siapa yg bakal menang dalam 
pertempuran di BEJ ;;)... tapi seperti yg kita ketahui, everything is fair in 
love and war...:))

jadi kl boleh saran buat orang2 yg merasa di kubu 
bu punsu, untuk waktu2 dekat ini, mendingan cut lah dari sekarang sebelum semua 
uang anda jadi asap sajenan si BOZ :))
saat seperti ini, rasanya lebih bijak pegang uang 
cash deh...tapi kl anda geregetan tetep ingin masuk kepasar padahal 
perlengakapan anda tidak memadahi untuk mungut buah2 yg jatuh, sebaiknya tanya 
dulu pada parah pakar apa ada teknik khusus 
menghadapi metode nge-short tanpa harus nge-short apa lagi pulang ngesot... :D 
=))

mbah, mas Budi n pakar2 yg lain, bisa minta 
pencerahan menghadapi metode nge-short ini?


bu pun su
tony




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  ASII
  
  Saya yakin anggota forum ini banyak yg jd 
  pemungut runtuhan buah asii, bner ngga seh?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Buah ranum ASII

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



Sell di new low ,ditengah indek turun, yang murah biasanya makin murah pak.rgdsTony Hidayat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




eitt saya ngak ikut mungut buah ASII donk :P :D
saya kemarin cuma coba pungunt pnbn eh malah ketiban buah jatoh, jd sempet pusing juga..
tapi udah di cut kok :)).. sekarang cuma megang uang doank ngak ada posisi..maklum newbie masih rada2 takut ngeliat badai seperti ini

tapi kl saya perhatikan, ada unsur "ketidak adilan" dalam medan perang BEJ antara kubu bandar/sesepuh/pakar melawan kubu newbie/bu pun su/bodoh
dimana ketidak adilannya? yah di perlengakapan yg dimiliki :D.. dikubu yg satu fasilitasnya lengkap, pake AK47 dan granat(bisa ngeshort) dikubu yg lain cuma ada pistol..
jadi kebayang dunk siapa yg bakal menang dalam pertempuran di BEJ ;;)... tapi seperti yg kita ketahui, everything is fair in love and war...:))

jadi kl boleh saran buat orang2 yg merasa di kubu bu punsu, untuk waktu2 dekat ini, mendingan cut lah dari sekarang sebelum semua uang anda jadi asap sajenan si BOZ :))
saat seperti ini, rasanya lebih bijak pegang uang cash deh...tapi kl anda geregetan tetep ingin masuk kepasar padahal perlengakapan anda tidak memadahi untuk mungut buah2 yg jatuh, sebaiknya tanya dulu pada parah pakar apa ada teknik khusus menghadapi metode nge-short tanpa harus nge-short apa lagi pulang ngesot... :D =))

mbah, mas Budi n pakar2 yg lain, bisa minta pencerahan menghadapi metode nge-short ini?


bu pun su
tony




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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Buah ranum ASII

Saya yakin anggota forum ini banyak yg jd pemungut runtuhan buah asii, bner ngga seh?
soal nya pd diem seh, 
Satu lagi pemungut buah kena tepu , koran ... koran .. koran
ada yg mau beli koran? 


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[obrolan-bandar] JIHD, go short opportunity

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



sebenarnya gatal pengin short JIHD,sayang broker saya nggak punya saham ginian, untuk anda yang bisa, go short di level 590-600 ,it's new low. good luck
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[obrolan-bandar] JIHD, go short opportunity

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



sebenarnya gatal pengin short JIHD,sayang broker saya nggak punya saham ginian, untuk anda yang bisa, go short di level 590-600 ,it's new low. good luck
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[obrolan-bandar] JIHD, go short opportunity

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JIHD, go short opportunity

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



harga terendah baru dari periode tertentu, semakin panjang semakin baik,rgds[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nanya dong, new low itu gimana cara liatnya yah? harga dibawah IPOmaksudnya? or harga terendah dalam suatu kurun waktu? sebenarnya gatal pengin short JIHD,sayang broker saya nggak punya saham ginian, untuk anda yang bisa, go short di level 590-600 ,it's new low. good luck - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] JIHD, go short opportunity

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik Beni Toto
bung Budi..
apakah kejatuhan ini krn memang hanya krn adanya GAP yang besar juga
kenaikan harga minyak dunia?

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   Nanya dong, new low itu gimana cara liatnya yah? harga dibawah IPO
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] JIHD, go short opportunity

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



kombinasi pak,saling mempengaruhi,minyak naik,imbas ke defisit apbn,imbas ke kurs usd/idr,imbas ke suku bunga, diterusin ke redemption reksadana, terakhir ke margin call. akhirnya index tenggelam seperti batu.Beni Toto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bung Budi..apakah kejatuhan ini krn memang hanya krn adanya GAP yang besar jugakenaikan harga minyak dunia? -- From:  budi suryono[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To:  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent:  Friday, August 19, 2005 5:32 PM To:  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject:  Re: [obrolan-bandar] JIHD, go short opportunity  harga terendah baru dari periode tertentu, semakin panjang semakin baik,rgds  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Nanya dong, new low itu gimana cara liatnya yah? harga dibawah IPO  maksudnya? or harga terendah dalam suatu
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[obrolan-bandar] BNLI, go short

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



BNLI termasuk laggard stock, index naik BNLI hanya tidak bergeming, hari ini touch new low.bank adalah sektor yang sensitif terhadap kenaikan interest  kurs usd .Sell short BNLI di 670-680.good luck
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[obrolan-bandar] Black Monday?

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



melihat kondisi saat ini dimana beberapa hari terakhir index terus turun,hari ini USD/IDR touch three year high,menembus angka psikologis 1.tinggal menunggu harga minyak malam ini (kalau naik) dan closing dow kalau turun, sesuai data empiris crash biasanya terjadi sesudah hari libur(sabtu minggu), maka komplitlah hari senen depan kemungkinan akan terjadi banjir darah besar2an, kita tunggu saja...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kapankah index oversold?

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik A3K






salut utk bung Solo,
dgn perkiraan anda yang tepat ternyata bisa ke 
bobolan juga.
aku masih bisa jual ISAT dgn untung cuma 350 
perak,
LPBN rugi 10 perak
BNBR udah poitensi rugi Rp5 
INDF malah lebih besar lagi = Rp150

mau short BDMN masih belum yakin ... 

yang jelas masih punya tabungan utk masuk lagi kalo 
nanti situasi udah lebih stabil

salam - a3k 


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  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapankah index 
  oversold?
  
  IHSG telah turun 6 hari berturut -turut dgn 
  total penurunan +/- 100 point. Tanpa malu, saya akui kantong saya sdh 
  bolong-bolong:).
  
  Beruntunglahyg bisa short selling sejak 
  index tembus 1.150 (atau bahkan lebih tinggi lagi). Mungkin anda akan 
  beruntung kalau bisa buy back di sekitar 1.060.
  
  Senin -Selasa depan mungkin merupakan timing yg tepat untuk 
  buy back bagi yg short sell. Dengan beberapa berita negatif yg significant 
  ditambah dgn pengomporan, maka Senin -Selasa depan lapisan loss cutter 
  terakhir (follower) akan berbondong-bondong ikut panic selling. Ini 
  mengingatkan saya pada multi level marketing, yg pertama melangkah yg paling 
  diuntungkan, dan yg paling akhir masuk (loss cutter terakhir) yg gigit 
  jari.
  
  Saya kembali menjadi loser, krn keliru mendeteksi market 
  pada wkt index di sekitar 1.188.Saya akan salut pada Miss Bear kalau 
  mampu membawa ihsg di bawah 1.050.
  
  







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[obrolan-bandar] BNII, go short opportunity

2005-08-19 Terurut Topik budi suryono



BNII, saya nilai laggard stock, selama market bullish ke praktis tidak ada rally yang sginificant, hari Jumat touch new low, sektor bank adalah favorit saya untuk short sell,karena selein liquiditas banyak,sektor ini juga termasuk paling suffer kalau kena tekanan moneter.
sell short BNII di 160.Salam 

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