Re: [obrolan-bandar] KOCOK TERUS BOZZ... ampe BUCAAATTTT........Re: GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik Suka Gadis Manis
- WAPRES - MENKO dpt disimpulkan 2006 dihindari next
punch baik harga BBM, Barang, dsb, gedor pengeluaran
ampe 10 t lebih..

- WAPRES bilang harga saham bagus menarik investor.
h m m m 

- BI bilang 2006 masih berat hingga akhir tahun 2006

- Kepala BPS bilang harusnya deflasi, wapres n menko
satu suara.. tau - taunya masih +1.. 

- kalau bandar bilang kira - kira apa yah??
h..m..m..m..m semoga manis akhir pekan ini... embah
kasih tiket lagi dunk naik argonya... atau ada yg mau
kasih gratisan naik  Shinkansen .. hehehe!!
melesat...sat...sat.. eh set.. jangan kal..

salam
pemula banget sekali...

--- Deddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 saya kira besok adalah babak penentuan, kalo bisa
 break 1110 dgn vol 
 besar index can go up higher, kalo gak, bisa 1060an
 lagi 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The BEAUTY and The BEAST (Pasar dan si BUAYA
 PASAR)
  
  
  Hari ini IHSG diNAEKIN, lalu DIGEBUK secepat
 halilintar,
  and THEN dinaekin LAGI... 
  
  MARVELOUS... SUPERB... itu yang bisa embah
 katakan...
  
  Tak HERAN, jika performance para Trader dibawah 
  performance IHSG karena yang teorinya bernama
 RANDOM WALK  
  PRICE MOVEMENT, nyatanya = A VERY DETERMINISTIC
 MODEL conducted
  by a MBA , Master of Bandarmological Art
  
  Bravo buat siBOZZ, The Father of MIE KOCOK,
  Ahli mengocok pasar dan trader, sampe sampe,
 indomie yang
  ada diperut trader jadi MIE KOCOK kena kocokan si
 BOZZ...
  
  KOCOK TERUS BOZZ... ampe BUCAAA
 hehehe.
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Indra D
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   Sip , bung Solo sudah on lagi.

   Tinggal Mbah apakah merestui peristiwa Hari
 ini. 

   ---Original Message---

   From: SOLO
   Date: 12/01/05 09:58:45
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] GOOD NEWS  BAD NEWS

   Kabar gembira, hari ini atau minggu depan IHSG
 tembus ke 1.111 
 lagi.

   Kabar jelek, prediksi saya IHSG akan tembus
 1.200 akhir tahun 
 ini 
  akan
   meleset.
   




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Re: [obrolan-Bandar] GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik Bobby Kurniawan



melesetnya karena gak mencapai 1200 atau malah lebih dari 1200? hehe


  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Subject: PGAS The Next Movement ??

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik Kwok
Pada waktu itu PGas tak masuk
yang ada waktu tgl 22 dan 23 noVembEr Pgas masuk
  

Salam,
 Kwok 


 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:23:17 -0800 (PST)
From: johannes zakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PGAS The Next Movement ??

 Kalau PGAS  6350  kemarin dan hari ini(30/11)  masuk up trend tidak?
 Salam,
   
   JZ






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[obrolan-bandar] YEN yg memble dan NIKKEI yg NGEJOZZ

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
YEN yg memble dan NIKKEI yg NGEJOZZ


Kalo kita perhatikan maka Index NIKKEI bergerak BERLAWANAN terhadap
nilai YEN. YEN melemah terhadap USD selama setahun terakhir dari 105 
ke 120
tapi index NIKKEI malah naik dari 11000 ke 15000...

Kenapa bisa begitu ?.

Karena YEN melemah, maka produict Jepang jadi COMPETITIVE,
Tapi mungkin ada TEORI LAIN yg bisa menjelaskan ini ?.

Kalo kita pake teori KAKI-LIMA:
- Rupiah melemah, tentunya barang jadi mahal: rokok, mobil, rumah 
menjadi
  mahal. Tentunya juga NILAI perusahaan JUGA akan menjadi lebih TINGGI
  asal engga punya utang USd.
- Asset perusahaan seperti rumah, mobil, pabrik, persediaan akan 
meningkat
  kalo rupiah melemah. Sedang Hutang (Rupiah) TETAP. Jadi Nilai bersih
  perusahaan akan NAIK kalo rupiah melemah...
- Penjualan perusahaan juga akan menaik kalo OMZET (qty) tetap, atau
  kenaikan harga lebih tinggi dari penurunan sales qty. Misal : 
Penjualan
  sparepart akan turun pada saat ini, tapi nilai penjualan dan 
keuntungan
  belum tentu turun karena harga jualnya NAIK.

Balik kesoal YEN-USD dan NIKKEI, Apakah KEADAAN INI bisa
diterapkan pada IHSG dan IDR-USD ?.








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Re: [obrolan-bandar] GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik SOLO





Siang ini kah tembus 1.111?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  SOLO 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:05 
  PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] GOOD NEWS  
  BAD NEWS
  
  Kabar gembira, hari ini atau minggu depan IHSG tembus ke 1.111 
lagi.
  
  Kabar jelek, prediksi saya IHSG akan tembus 1.200akhir tahun ini 
  akan meleset.

  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] YEN yg memble dan NIKKEI yg NGEJOZZ

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik Mustafa Kamil



keunggulan komparatif sementara, jika berlangsung terus maka bisa serius, ingat Yen daka?
On 12/2/05, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
YEN yg memble dan NIKKEI yg NGEJOZZKalo kita perhatikan maka Index NIKKEI bergerak BERLAWANAN terhadap
nilai YEN. YEN melemah terhadap USD selama setahun terakhir dari 105 ke 120tapi index NIKKEI malah naik dari 11000 ke 15000...Kenapa bisa begitu ?.Karena YEN melemah, maka produict Jepang jadi COMPETITIVE,
Tapi mungkin ada TEORI LAIN yg bisa menjelaskan ini ?.Kalo kita pake teori KAKI-LIMA:- Rupiah melemah, tentunya barang jadi mahal: rokok, mobil, rumah menjadi mahal. Tentunya juga NILAI perusahaan JUGA akan menjadi lebih TINGGI
 asal engga punya utang USd.- Asset perusahaan seperti rumah, mobil, pabrik, persediaan akan meningkat kalo rupiah melemah. Sedang Hutang (Rupiah) TETAP. Jadi Nilai bersih perusahaan akan NAIK kalo rupiah melemah...
- Penjualan perusahaan juga akan menaik kalo OMZET (qty) tetap, atau kenaikan harga lebih tinggi dari penurunan sales qty. Misal : Penjualan sparepart akan turun pada saat ini, tapi nilai penjualan dan 
keuntungan belum tentu turun karena harga jualnya NAIK.Balik kesoal YEN-USD dan NIKKEI, Apakah KEADAAN INI bisaditerapkan pada IHSG dan IDR-USD ?.


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[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: [diskusi-TA] Han or Red Emperors

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik Kang Asep



Kang Asep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  To: Forum Diskusi TA [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: Kang Asep [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 04:13:28 + (GMT)Subject: [diskusi-TA] Han or Red Emperors  China's Benign   Neglect Pays Off by K.Y.   Leong The  Chinese have great respect for their history. For more than 3000 years,  every monarch who ruled the Middle Kingdom had a court
 historian who  faithfully recorded the affairs of the state — politics, state finance,  natural disasters, palace intrigues and most importantly, warfare. The  great Chinese historian Sima Qian wrote extensively in Shiji  (Record of the Scribe) of the reign of the Emperor Han Wudi, who ruled  China from 141 to 87 BC. This period, by all accounts, is one of the  greatest and longest reigns in the history of imperial China. The  Han dynasty was established in 202 BC by a peasant rebel leader named  Liu Bang following the collapse of the Qin dynasty. To appease the  peasantry and to secure political support of the merchant class, Liu  Bang quickly abolished the harsh penal laws of the Qin, eased state  taxation and adopted a Taoist philosophy in government - a policy of  "Wu Wei Er Zhi" which loosely translates to "Live and Let Live".  When  Han Wudi ascended the throne at age 16 in 141 BC, the Chinese populace  had enjoyed some six decades of
 laissez-faire government under the  early Han rulers. The economy was growing rapidly, generating peace and  prosperity among the common folk, and at the same time enriching state  coffers. But to the north, there existed an ominous threat.  Barbarians from the North  Living  off the Mongolian Steppes were the Xiongnu tribes, united under a  confederation in 3rd century BC and ruled by Da Chanyu (Great Khan)  following several hundred years of intertribal warfare. These roving  hunters and warring nomads were constantly on the move, did not own  much in terms of factors of production and never produced much by way  of farming. But they did develop superior skills and know-how in weapon  fabrication and excelled in breeding fine horses. To supplement their  meager nomadic livelihood, they would resort to frequent pillaging and  plundering of the towns and villages along the northern borders of the  Han Empire, as well as
 those of the smaller kingdoms on the eastern  fringes of the Gobi desert. The Han Chinese called them the Barbarians  of the North.  To  keep the barbarians at bay, early Han emperors had to adopt a  marriage-for-peace policy — Han princesses were regularly married off  to the Xiongnu nobility, along with tributes in silk, ivory, gold and  precious stones. For the first few years of his reign Han Wudi kept up  this costly practice but soon realized such policies of appeasement  could not be sustained, as the northern barbarians grew envious of the  riches and opulence in the Han court. Their border raids became more  frequent and on several occasions, came close to besieging the Han  capital city Chang-An (present-day Xian).  Han  Wudi, tired of incessant Xiongnu intrusions and emboldened by the  bulging state coffers, soon abandoned the long held marriage-for-peace  policy and decided to switch to a strategy of military
 offensives  against the barbarians. Thus began half a century of bloody warfare  between the northern neighbors.  Blood-sweating Warhorses  The  first military campaigns into the northern grasslands were difficult  battles for the Han army. Foot soldiers and chariots in large  formations were no match for the swift and elusive cavalry of the  battle-honed nomads. Tactics developed in the Central Plains could not  be deployed in the hostile terrains and under unpredictable weather  conditions of the Steppes. Nevertheless, due to the superiority in  numbers, the Han army managed to drive the Xiongnu out of the fertile  Yellow River region and back into the Mongolian Steppes. Peace was  temporarily restored.  But  Han Wudi knew it would not be long before the barbarians returned with  their border incursions. In 138 BC, having learned of the existence of  city-states to the far west of the Han
 Empire from bearded silk  traders, the emperor sent an expedition of 100 emissaries to seek  diplomatic ties and to establish military alliances with these faraway  sovereign states. Although the first expedition did not return for 13  years, stories of exotic produce (grapes and wines), fantastic beasts  (lions) and advanced metallurgical know-how (steel) fascinated the Han  Emperor. Reports of "blood sweating" warhorses particularly excited Han  Wudi who began to harbor thoughts of a hundred-thousand-strong cavalry  in his army.  (Scholars believe these  "blood-sweating" horses to be early ancestors of the modern Akhal-Teke  breed from present-day Turkmenistan. 

[obrolan-bandar] KOCOK TERUS BOZZ... ampe BUCAAATTTT........Re: GOOD NEWS BAD NEWS

2005-12-01 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
IHSG +20

Gile si DIE jago banget NGOCOKnya Embah ampe KLOJOTAN KEENAKAN...
BUCAAA ENAK .hehehe

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The BEAUTY and The BEAST (Pasar dan si BUAYA PASAR)
 
 
 Hari ini IHSG diNAEKIN, lalu DIGEBUK secepat halilintar,
 and THEN dinaekin LAGI... 
 
 MARVELOUS... SUPERB... itu yang bisa embah katakan...
 
 Tak HERAN, jika performance para Trader dibawah 
 performance IHSG karena yang teorinya bernama RANDOM WALK  
 PRICE MOVEMENT, nyatanya == A VERY DETERMINISTIC MODEL conducted
 by a MBA , Master of Bandarmological Art
 
 Bravo buat siBOZZ, The Father of MIE KOCOK,
 Ahli mengocok pasar dan trader, sampe sampe, indomie yang
 ada diperut trader jadi MIE KOCOK kena kocokan si BOZZ...
 
 KOCOK TERUS BOZZ... ampe BUCAAA hehehe.
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Indra D [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Sip , bung Solo sudah on lagi.
   
  Tinggal Mbah apakah merestui peristiwa Hari ini. 
   
  ---Original Message---
   
  From: SOLO
  Date: 12/01/05 09:58:45
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] GOOD NEWS  BAD NEWS
   
  Kabar gembira, hari ini atau minggu depan IHSG tembus ke 1.111 
lagi.
   
  Kabar jelek, prediksi saya IHSG akan tembus 1.200 akhir tahun ini 
 akan
  meleset.
  
  
  
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