Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Truba
Wah kalo gitu BW dan BK termasuk investor bodah kali ya :) Karna dari kemarin kan mereka yang ambil trus ni saham makanya yg laennya ikut2an. ya untuk urusan fundamental sih nampaknya kita masih kalah jauh nih ama orang yg punya duit segudang. Makanya saya teringat apa kata guru saya pak busur, untuk kita2 yang pemain retail fokus aja pada chart. Kalo chart ok masuk kalo kagak jangan dah ... CMIIW Pada tanggal 07/02/09, Surata nyoman [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Jumlah saham TRUB 13 Milyar lembar ,misalkan eps 140 mencerminkan laba bersih 1.8 Triliun. Kapasitas 500 MW hanya menghasilkan pendapatan maksimum 2 Triliun , bukan netprofit. Hanya investor bodoh yang menilai TRUB 700 murah. --- Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kl memang menggiurkan kenapa PLN rugi terus ya, bahkan sampai disubsidi.. On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:51:53 +0700, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah namanya juga bisnis listrik menggiurkan! Sepertinya pak Nyoman kita bandingkan dgn SURALAYA saja jgn Indonesia powernya. By the way , jml saham truba ada berapa sih 2,9 Miliar lembar atau gw salah liat??? Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sinar Mas? Preman?
Hahahaha so true! Tapi mungkin mereka memang sudah membeli asuransi bencana alam dan berencana untuk melakukan class action ke group SMMA. Kan lumayan mas, dapet polis asuransi, dapet juga settlement dari developer. Yummy ;)) On 2/9/07, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Makanya beli asuransi bencana alam, berapa sih? Ngandalin pemerintah dan developer mah kumaha? --- Cuplis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iye bang, termasuk BEJ ame kantor2 yg laen2nya pindahin aje noh, taro dipinggir kota. Gak ngaruh, pan dah jaman 3G . punya ngemot kontro semua ye bang. Bisa kerja dari rumah aje.. kayak onlën trëder giju loh. Sorry asal nguap SMMA buruan bung !! Bejek abis -Original Message- From: Hael ELha[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/8/07 6:51:19 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Sinar Mas? Preman? Metrotvnews.com, Jakarta: Sepanjang hari Rabu (7/2), warga Perumahan Permata Buana, yang notabene merupakan perumahan elite, melakukan aksi protes ke kantor pemasaran Sinar Mas Group. Mereka memprotes pihak developer karena selama hampir 15 tahun tinggal di kawasan itu, mereka tidak pernah terkena bencana banjir. Namun tahun ini, mereka juga ikut kebanjiran. Warga juga memprotes, janji-janji pihak developer bahwa perumahan yang mereka beli dengan harga Rp 900 juta hingga Rp 1,5 miliar tersebut akan bebas banjir. Tetapi kenyataannya, sejak pihak developer Sinar Mas Group membuka areal baru penjualan kavling di Jalan Pulau Pramuka yang dekat dengan pinggiran Kali Angke, kawasan elite rumah mereka kini menjadi santapan banjir. Aksi demo dan protes warga Permata Buana di kantor pemasaran ini sempat dihadang oleh puluhan preman dan petugas keamanan yang telah disewa oleh pihak developer. Hingga Rabu (7/2) sore ini, kawasa di perumahan elite ini, masih tergenang banjir hingga ketinggian sebatas lutut orang dewasa.(*/NTF) __ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. -- Oskar Syahbana http://permagnus.com/ -- A Financial site with a human touch Please send private messages to iservasia[at]gmail.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Truba
harga wajar TRUB brapa Pak? kalau saya lihat lagi digoreng regards On 2/9/07, Surata nyoman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jumlah saham TRUB 13 Milyar lembar ,misalkan eps 140 mencerminkan laba bersih 1.8 Triliun. Kapasitas 500 MW hanya menghasilkan pendapatan maksimum 2 Triliun , bukan netprofit. Hanya investor bodoh yang menilai TRUB 700 murah. --- Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kl memang menggiurkan kenapa PLN rugi terus ya, bahkan sampai disubsidi.. On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:51:53 +0700, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah namanya juga bisnis listrik menggiurkan! Sepertinya pak Nyoman kita bandingkan dgn SURALAYA saja jgn Indonesia powernya. By the way , jml saham truba ada berapa sih 2,9 Miliar lembar atau gw salah liat??? Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
[obrolan-bandar] BMTR AKAN TMBH TRUS KEPMLKN SAHAM DI CMNP
bimantara akan terus memperbesar kepemilikan saham di CMNP.Sementara petinggi di MNC dikabarkan akan menduduki posisi Presdir menggatikan Dady Haryadi Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Truba
Wah saya salah hitung donk!1 hi hi sorry. Laba bersih TRUB bakal 300 Miliar! Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: harga wajar TRUB brapa Pak? kalau saya lihat lagi digoreng regards On 2/9/07, Surata nyoman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jumlah saham TRUB 13 Milyar lembar ,misalkan eps 140 mencerminkan laba bersih 1.8 Triliun. Kapasitas 500 MW hanya menghasilkan pendapatan maksimum 2 Triliun , bukan netprofit. Hanya investor bodoh yang menilai TRUB 700 murah. --- Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kl memang menggiurkan kenapa PLN rugi terus ya, bahkan sampai disubsidi.. On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:51:53 +0700, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah namanya juga bisnis listrik menggiurkan! Sepertinya pak Nyoman kita bandingkan dgn SURALAYA saja jgn Indonesia powernya. By the way , jml saham truba ada berapa sih 2,9 Miliar lembar atau gw salah liat??? Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
[obrolan-bandar] MEDC News!
Sudah lama nggak ngikuti MEDC! Medco Temukan Minyak Mentah di Libya Jumat, 9 Februari 2007 15:10:12 StockWatch (Jakarta) - PT Medco Energi International Tbk (MEDC) melalui anak perusahaannya, Medco International Ventures Limited (MIV), yang bermitra dengan Verenex Energy Inc sebagai operator di Area 47, untuk pertama kalinya menemukan minyak pada sumur A1-47/02 yang terletak di cekungan Ghadames, Libya. Direktur Pengembangan Bisnis Medco, Rashid Mangunkusumo, mengemukakan dalam pernyataan tertulis kepada BEJ, Jumat (9/2), perusahaan minyak nasional Libya, The Libyan National Oil Corporation (NOC), mengkonfirmasikan sumur tersebut sebagai penemuan pertama pada blok eksplorasi yang telah diberikan pada penawaran internasional putaran pertama pada Januari 2005. Penemuan minyak mentah berjenis kasren (minyak berkadar belerang rendah) tersebut terjadi setelah Verenex menyelesaikan eksplorasi sumur tersebut pada kedalaman 9.980 kaki. Pada saat pengujian awal, dalam waktu tiga jam sumur tersebut memproduksi minyak dalam jumlah yang setara dengan 5.172 barel per hari (bph). Selain itu, MIV dan Verenex juga menemukan gas dengan kapasitas produksi yang setara dengan 6,7 juta kaki kubik per hari. Medco Energi lewat MIV memiliki 50% saham (interest) di blok eksplorasi tersebut berdasarkan perjanjian eksplorasi dan produksi minyak dan gas bumi di Area 47, Libya, yang dioperasikan Verenex, sedangkan 50% lagi dimiliki oleh Verenex. (abr)
[obrolan-bandar] ISAT, TLKM, UNSP : The Reds
ISAT, TLKM, UNSP sudah berdarah-darah (Reds) dalam beberapa hari terakhir. ISAT (4-Reds), TLKM (4-Reds), UNSP (5-Reds). Bisa diamati untuk hari senin besok. rgds WD-070209.PNG Description: PNG image
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Truba
Hehehe : jualan listrik rugi ?, monopoli lagi ... bule aja sampe bingung. - Original Message - From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Truba kl memang menggiurkan kenapa PLN rugi terus ya, bahkan sampai disubsidi.. On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:51:53 +0700, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah namanya juga bisnis listrik menggiurkan! Sepertinya pak Nyoman kita bandingkan dgn SURALAYA saja jgn Indonesia powernya. By the way , jml saham truba ada berapa sih 2,9 Miliar lembar atau gw salah liat??? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Calpers CIO: Price Is Wrong For What You Get
Calpers CIO: Price Is Wrong For What You Get February 2007 Hedge Fund Daily To say *Russell Read* is unhappy with the returns from hedge funds investments for the fees his *California Public Employees Retirement System *paid for them is an understatement. Last year, CalPERS, for which he is chief investment officer, paid a half a billion dollars in management fees for returns, he says, didn't even outperform the stock market. We can get average market risk very cheaply, Read said in an interview at a conference in Geneva. We hate paying a performance fee for something we can get very cheaply. On the other hand, he said, We have no problem paying high performance fees for a manager's selection, but we find taking on average market risk inherently unsatisfying. Comparing the current business relationship to a charity where you give these people lots of money, they make a really good living out of it, and they provide you with returns that are substandard, Read predicts that the fee system may change to one where better performers get paid more for producing better-than-market returns. So far, none of this seems to be affecting institutional inflows into hedge funds, but when those investors read what Prof. *Harry Kat *of London's *Cass Business School* writes -- that 80% of hedge funds can't justify their fees, and that after surveying 2,500 hedge funds over the past 12 years, 80% of HF investors would have done better in something else -- things might.
[obrolan-bandar] Survey: More Hedge Funds Raise Less Cash
Survey: More Hedge Funds Raise Less Cash February 2007 Hedge Fund Daily Hard times hit hedge funds in the second half of the year, and that had an impact on fundraising efforts in 2006, with a larger number of HFs raising less money. According to the /Absolute Return New Funds Survey/, it took 86 of the largest hedge funds to bring in $31 billion, down from $34 billion from 81 HFs in 2005 and $40 billion via 82 funds in 2004. Most of the launches occurred in the first half of the year, raising 80% of the total, with an equity market meltdown and HF disasters such as *Amaranth Advisors* resulting in just 29 new funds collecting $6.2 billion, or 20% of the final figure. Starring in the first half of 2006, according to the survey, which appears in the February issue of sister publication /Absolute Return/ magazine, were five so-called ?mega funds,? raising more than $1 billion. The only biggie to debut in the last six months of the year was *Dillon Read Capital Management*?s $1.3 billion /Dillon Read Financial Products/. *Black River Asset Management *also launched in the second half and raised an estimate $1 billion. As further proof that well-established hedge funds will bring in the bucks the best, six of the 10 largest launches were by longtime players in the field, but the three greatest money gatherers actually came from new or start-up firms: *Convexity Capital*, which ranks first with a $6.3 billion debut; *Old Lane Management*, founded by a trio from *Morgan Stanley*, which brought in $3.5 billion; and Dillon Read, the *UBS* spinoff. Conspicuously absent from the list is /Renaissance Institutional Equities Fund/, which didn?t qualify for the 2006 survey since it launched late in 2005, but it ended the year with a HF record $16 billion in assets. *Kenneth Stemme*, senior v.p. and director of hedge fund investments at *Northern Trust Global Advisers*, expects the trend to continue ? and then some. ?I am seeing more and more herd mentality,? Stemme told /Absolute Return/, noting that Convexity founder *Jack Meyer*?s *Harvard University* endowment pedigree helped attract funds, ?As you get more institutional growth, the size of the megalaunches will get bigger. I don?t foresee a $10 billion launch, but I wouldn?t be surprised either.?
