Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
thank you, bro
  let's see tlkm, antm, pgas and ...inco

herman ardiyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's already acknowledged that this room is not free from
boss/bandar's sight, which could be more than one and less likely
have common position, and it's all right if no big fish want to show
their card, unless they are sure it's a trump.

But showing emotion is just another telltale, isn't it? Even though
for a big player such as you it's not for me to exploit.

Though you can't reveal much in this homo homini lupus game, sometimes
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On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan

Tuh lihat Pak FS beraksi, you have the guts Pak. Salute!

On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   thank you, bro
let's see tlkm, antm, pgas and ...inco

*herman ardiyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 It's already acknowledged that this room is not free from
boss/bandar's sight, which could be more than one and less likely
have common position, and it's all right if no big fish want to show
their card, unless they are sure it's a trump.

But showing emotion is just another telltale, isn't it? Even though
for a big player such as you it's not for me to exploit.

Though you can't reveal much in this homo homini lupus game, sometimes
ob-brigade can offer help to reach your target sooner. Just like
newspaper's ad, but free of charge.

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[obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data


Akhir akhir ini, KEBIASAAN LAMA melakukan transaksi dengan
melakukan BOMBING ORDER kembali MERAJALELA

Apakah otoritas bursa LAGI TIDUR ?...

Mau beli saham 100 lot cukup order 1 kali 500 lot dan
bukannya melakukan BOMBING ORDER secara 
otomatis 500 kali @ 1 lot .

Dulu kebiasaan ini sudah hampir TIDAK ADA, sekarang kebiasaan
ini MUNCUL LAGI didepan hidung otoritas bursa...

BOMBING ORDER ini mengganggu KAPASITAS KEMAMPUAN pengiriman data
kepada PEMAKAI. Data menjadi terlambat karena sistem BEJ 
harus mengirim data yang DIULANG ULANG padahal TIDAK 
PERLU TERJADI !!!

Selain itu, INI merugikan trader biasa karena KALAH CEPAT
dibanding FLOOR trader. Jadi FLOOR trader bisa seenaknya
MEMBOM server bej agar trader yang lain menjadi TERLAMBAT
menerima data...

Jadi untuk FAIR TREATMENT bagi semua trader, kami mohon
agar BOMBING ORDER dilarang...








[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tin vs Nickel vs Emas. Gambar bicara seribu kata

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Soeratman Doerachman

Melihat INCO tgl 28 Feb, apapun bicaranya gambar, kalau pasar lagi 
nggak mau ya yg kejadian yang sebaliknya. Disinilah kita memerlukan   
Risk Management to anticipate if marlet moves not in our favor.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saya sih lebih suka INCO karena lebih tahan terhadap gejolak 
kenaikan
 minyak. dan hanya produksi nickel.
 
 Jadi lebih sederhana hitungannya.
 
 ANTM pengaruh harga minyak terlalu tinggi
 
 
 On 2/27/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 INCO paling sulit dibeli dan dijualnya karena spread bid 
offernya besar
  dan volumenya sangat tipis sekali ...
 
  Ada penjelasan kenapa anda lebih tertarik ke INCO dibandingkan 
ANTM
  padahal ANTM lagi punya banyak program dan proyek sehingga 
terlihat jelas
  growthnya
 
  Regards,
  JA
 
 
  On 2/27/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Sekedar comment dari Junior yang tidak berkepentingan dengan 
harga
   TIN, Nikel dan Gold..
  
   Gold sedang up trend.. tapi belum spike.
  
   Tin gagal bertahan di support trend line
  
   Nickel rebound seteleah menyentuh lower trendline.
  
   Dengan begitu urutan saya Nickel.. over Gold..over Tin
   Terefleksi ke stock market di INCO over ANTM over TINS
  
   Saya tidak punya sama sekali ketiga saham di atas.. tapi kalau 
dipaksa
   masuk.. saya cuman mau masuk di INCO..
  
  
   On 2/26/07, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
   Untuk menentukan apakah pilih ANTM. INCO atau TINS
   
Lihat juga emas
   
Gambar bicara seribu kata. Silahkan tambah ceritera-ceritera 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik sains kompleksitas

embah, sy pikir ini pola manipulasi pasar yang menyebabkan herding behaviour
bagi investor atau trader lain

memang perlu di batasi
thx


On 2/27/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

Akhir akhir ini, KEBIASAAN LAMA melakukan transaksi dengan
melakukan BOMBING ORDER kembali MERAJALELA

Apakah otoritas bursa LAGI TIDUR ?...

Mau beli saham 100 lot cukup order 1 kali 500 lot dan
bukannya melakukan BOMBING ORDER secara
otomatis 500 kali @ 1 lot .

Dulu kebiasaan ini sudah hampir TIDAK ADA, sekarang kebiasaan
ini MUNCUL LAGI didepan hidung otoritas bursa...

BOMBING ORDER ini mengganggu KAPASITAS KEMAMPUAN pengiriman data
kepada PEMAKAI. Data menjadi terlambat karena sistem BEJ
harus mengirim data yang DIULANG ULANG padahal TIDAK
PERLU TERJADI !!!

Selain itu, INI merugikan trader biasa karena KALAH CEPAT
dibanding FLOOR trader. Jadi FLOOR trader bisa seenaknya
MEMBOM server bej agar trader yang lain menjadi TERLAMBAT
menerima data...

Jadi untuk FAIR TREATMENT bagi semua trader, kami mohon
agar BOMBING ORDER dilarang...





Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik budi suryono
fail.saya udah get out,sentimen idx terlau besar,rgds

Sumardi Tjin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:tapi skr lagi turun ya pak 
di 740-750.
  apakah sudah ok untuk masuk ?
  thks P'Busur

 
  On 2/27/07, budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  main diatas 
ceceng kalau gak ada aral melintang,rgds

Masrivana Yusran [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: Salute P' 
Busur..anyway...TRUB masuk di 780/790 msh ok ga ? target amp brp ?  mksi bgt 
Pak :=D
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Karno Edy
ada bombing order yang lain Mbah misalnya pada posisi bid :
 
Harga/Qty 
A 8000
B 1500
C 2000

Kalo jual di harga C sebanyak 15000 lot, itu bombing order juga kan.

  - Original Message - 
  From: jsx_consultant 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:29 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data


  To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

  Akhir akhir ini, KEBIASAAN LAMA melakukan transaksi dengan
  melakukan BOMBING ORDER kembali MERAJALELA

  Apakah otoritas bursa LAGI TIDUR ?...

  Mau beli saham 100 lot cukup order 1 kali 500 lot dan
  bukannya melakukan BOMBING ORDER secara 
  otomatis 500 kali @ 1 lot .

  Dulu kebiasaan ini sudah hampir TIDAK ADA, sekarang kebiasaan
  ini MUNCUL LAGI didepan hidung otoritas bursa...

  BOMBING ORDER ini mengganggu KAPASITAS KEMAMPUAN pengiriman data
  kepada PEMAKAI. Data menjadi terlambat karena sistem BEJ 
  harus mengirim data yang DIULANG ULANG padahal TIDAK 
  PERLU TERJADI !!!

  Selain itu, INI merugikan trader biasa karena KALAH CEPAT
  dibanding FLOOR trader. Jadi FLOOR trader bisa seenaknya
  MEMBOM server bej agar trader yang lain menjadi TERLAMBAT
  menerima data...

  Jadi untuk FAIR TREATMENT bagi semua trader, kami mohon
  agar BOMBING ORDER dilarang...



   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Odink
hehee teknik menguras bandwidth dengan nge-jam running trade.. menyebalkan
kl emang ada duitnya sih langsung ngeroll dua harga aja, jgn beli 2 lot 2  
lot.. hehehee


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Perintah Jual 15000 lot diharga C cukup dilakukan 1 kali saja,
TIDAK PERLU dengan NEMBAK OTOMATIS 1500 @ 10 LOT.

Si BOMBER ini melalukan 1500 kali order dengan cukup SEKALI tekan
ENTER doang, tapi SEMUA pengguna bursa akan TERGANGGU... 

Tapi jika maksud pak Edy, bid A 8000 dengan melakukan
BOMBING BID 800 kali @ 10 lot, maka yang MENJUAL sepertinya
melakukan BOMBING jual padahal yang melakukan bombing adalah
yang BELI...

BOMBING ORDER ini membuat sistem jadi LELET padahal TIDAK
PERLU TERJADI. Jadi otoritas bursa seharusnya MENEGOR anggota
bursa yang melakukan bombing...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ada bombing order yang lain Mbah misalnya pada posisi bid :
  
 Harga/Qty 
 A 8000
 B 1500
 C 2000
 
 Kalo jual di harga C sebanyak 15000 lot, itu bombing order juga kan.
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: jsx_consultant 
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:29 PM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running 
Trade data
 
 
   To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data
 
   Akhir akhir ini, KEBIASAAN LAMA melakukan transaksi dengan
   melakukan BOMBING ORDER kembali MERAJALELA
 
   Apakah otoritas bursa LAGI TIDUR ?...
 
   Mau beli saham 100 lot cukup order 1 kali 500 lot dan
   bukannya melakukan BOMBING ORDER secara 
   otomatis 500 kali @ 1 lot .
 
   Dulu kebiasaan ini sudah hampir TIDAK ADA, sekarang kebiasaan
   ini MUNCUL LAGI didepan hidung otoritas bursa...
 
   BOMBING ORDER ini mengganggu KAPASITAS KEMAMPUAN pengiriman data
   kepada PEMAKAI. Data menjadi terlambat karena sistem BEJ 
   harus mengirim data yang DIULANG ULANG padahal TIDAK 
   PERLU TERJADI !!!
 
   Selain itu, INI merugikan trader biasa karena KALAH CEPAT
   dibanding FLOOR trader. Jadi FLOOR trader bisa seenaknya
   MEMBOM server bej agar trader yang lain menjadi TERLAMBAT
   menerima data...
 
   Jadi untuk FAIR TREATMENT bagi semua trader, kami mohon
   agar BOMBING ORDER dilarang...





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Lampo teplok bandar dan Elliot Wave

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
EDAN, Shanghai index ditutup -8,8%

Pasti banyak orang yang LONCAT BEBAS dari atap gedung bertingkat 
deh di Shanghai karena dapet tlp dari tante Marginong...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gitto kurniasanto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HAJAR TERUSS BOZZ !! waaah sanghai penjudi semua kale mbah 
PLUSS di CNBC kata greenspan AMRIK resesi akir taonwaaah ini mah 
prediksi SUHU IAN bulan NOVEMBERcihuuuy om suhu... tapi ELMU 
DOBEL PENTUNG ORA ONO YET YAK!!
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 14:05
 
 IHSG -16 di 1767 
 
 Flue Shanghai memuluskan gerakan Wave E...
 
 Apakah support trendline 1770 bisa bertahan atau JEBOL ?
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  Index shanghai DOWN -6 percent hari ini...
  
  Dapatkan level 1770 menahan gerakan kebawah dari Wave E ???.
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Embah jsx-consultant@ 
  wrote:
  
   11:30
   
   - IHSG -22 di 1786 atau udah turun -34 dari posting tentang
 si BOZZ nyalain SIGNAL lampu TEPLOK untuk membakar
 Trader LALAT MUDA...
   - Pada saat lampu teplok nyala TERANG di +18%, Wave D pada
 Contracting Triangle yang embah prediksikan TERJADI 
(terminal).
   - Saat ini gelombang harga memasuki Wave E...
   
   Ini adalah gabungan analisa Elliot Wave dan ilmu Bandarmologi,
   si BOZZ sebagai SOURCE OF the PRICE WAVE dan Elliot Wave
   Analysis sebagai GUIDING PRINCIPLE dari wave movement.
   
   SO jangan lupa CARE ama god kecil dibursa dan ama GOD GEDE
   yang diatas yang menentukan HUKUM ALAM gerakan gelombang.
   
   The REST: BERSERAH kepada Tuhan seperti pak Sudes bilang...
   
   
   Note:
   - Attached Contracting Triangle pattern.
   
   ...
   
   embah, bandarmologist
  
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: WHO Will Be The WINNER ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Hari ini 27/2/07 ANTM telah kechup TLKM bahkan closing lebih 
tinggi.
Artinya.FIRST MISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
now still waiting new ORDER...

Note: Sorry buat yg pegang TLKM saya nggak ngasih tahu kalau BOZZ 
ada agenda mau nurunin TLKM hingga KEPALA 8.000-an. 
Cuman kasih SINYAL aja...
Alasannya cukup SENSITIF buat ngomong saham yg katanya NGGAK MUNGKIN 
bisa DIBANDARINhehehe
Padahal masih banyak saham (bagus) yg lagi dikerjain turun ama 
BOZZ...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Buat yg njago ANTM.
 
 There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
 Cool...relaxxx
 
 Masalahnya saya lagi pikir2 ketemu di level berapa yah?
 Di 10.000? 9.000? Atau malah 8.000???
 Hehehe
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ANDIK MUSTIKA ahmustika@ 
 wrote:
 
  TLKM VS TINS ? apakah tins dapat mengejar tlkm
 Buat yg njago ANTM.
 
 There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
 Cool...relaxxx
 
  ANTM VS PGAS? siapa yang duluan turun . he..he..he...
  
  - Original Message 
  From: Bambang Suprayogi bsuprayogi@
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:52:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WHO Will Be The WINNER ?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  Horee TINS go the Winner.
  
  PGAS dan ANTM race pake mesin diesel dengan solar oplosan
  
   
  
  On 2/15/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  sekarang ANTM, TINS dan PGAS sudah SETARA harganya 
  8.800,-
  (walau, PGAS gagal close di 8.800... but 8,850 is not bad 
 selisih satu poin)
  
  sekarang the Race akan dimulai  hehehe ...
  
  Ladies and gentlemen  Start Your Engine ...
  
  Let's Guess Who will be the Winner ?
  
  salam,
  
  
  
  oentoeng_q wrote: 
  
  Begitulah P. James...
  Yang jelas mulai hari ini saya ingin melihat perlombaan BALAPAN 
  antara PGAS, ANTM sama TINS.
  Dan jangan LUPA SOPIR-nya sekarang lagi di megang KEMUDI di 
ANTM!!!
  
  Ini cuman mau nunjukkin... .who is the Market Movers?
  Apapun sahamnya yg penting SOPIRNYA
  Ya nggak bozz???
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] AKRA - Shanghai Flue

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik dfaj21
Bandar AKRA lagi meriang atau tau something sih? Bukannya AKRA ada
investasi di Cina? Shanghai Sensen itu buat Cina bukan sih? Kabarnya
sih pemerintah Cina berupaya memperlambat pertumbuhan yang terlalu
cepat. Takut anaknya Gigantisme nanti. Kepala gede badan gede tapi gak
cantik molek.



[obrolan-bandar] Re: To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Order macam gini bukan dilakukan oleh floor trader, mbah ...
 but oleh remote trader ...
 
 Otoritas Bursa sih gak lagi tidur ...
 tapi karena Split Order ini dilakukan oleh sekuritas gede,
 Otoritas Bursa tutup mata.
 

BURSA seharusnya punya investor dan bukan dicontrol Sekuritas
Gede...

BEJ sebaiknya public company yang mayoritas sahamnya dipunyai
oleh publik, supaya giginya yang OMPONG bisa tumbuh lagi...  


 salam,
 
 jsx_consultant wrote:
  To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data
 
 
  Akhir akhir ini, KEBIASAAN LAMA melakukan transaksi dengan
  melakukan BOMBING ORDER kembali MERAJALELA
 
  Apakah otoritas bursa LAGI TIDUR ?...
 
  Mau beli saham 100 lot cukup order 1 kali 500 lot dan
  bukannya melakukan BOMBING ORDER secara 
  otomatis 500 kali @ 1 lot .
 
  Dulu kebiasaan ini sudah hampir TIDAK ADA, sekarang kebiasaan
  ini MUNCUL LAGI didepan hidung otoritas bursa...
 
  BOMBING ORDER ini mengganggu KAPASITAS KEMAMPUAN pengiriman data
  kepada PEMAKAI. Data menjadi terlambat karena sistem BEJ 
  harus mengirim data yang DIULANG ULANG padahal TIDAK 
  PERLU TERJADI !!!
 
  Selain itu, INI merugikan trader biasa karena KALAH CEPAT
  dibanding FLOOR trader. Jadi FLOOR trader bisa seenaknya
  MEMBOM server bej agar trader yang lain menjadi TERLAMBAT
  menerima data...
 
  Jadi untuk FAIR TREATMENT bagi semua trader, kami mohon
  agar BOMBING ORDER dilarang...
 
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik boyz

sampai juga yah di 61,8%
mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an

salam,



boyz wrote:

mohon petunjuk berikutnya mBah,

Sesi II closing menjauh sedikit dari level 38%,
probabilitas ke 50% (1774) or 61,8% (1760an) gimana mBah ?
thanks,

salam


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lampo teplok bandar dan Elliot Wave

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

  http://www.bloomberg.com/


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Asian Stocks Fall From Record; China, Citic Securities Tumble

By Darren Boey and Hanny Wan

Feb. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Asian stocks fell from a record. China's shares
tumbled the most in 10 years on concern the Chinese government may introduce
measures to cool the stock markets as the National People's Congress meets
next week.

China Vanke Co., the nation's biggest property developer, and China United
Telecommunications Corp., which controls the country's second-largest
mobile-phone operator, both plunged by the 10 percent daily limit.

``China stocks are under attack because investors are cautious ahead of the
NPC,'' said Kenny Tang, associate director of research at Tung Tai
Securities Co. in Hong Kong. ``They are concerned that China will consider
the stock market to be overheated and do something to cool it down.''

China Mobile Ltd. led Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index 1.8 percent lower on
concern spending on a high-speed wireless network will exceed investors'
expectations. Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group Inc. dropped on speculation a
rate increase by the Bank of Japan last week won't be enough to boost
profits.

The Morgan Stanley Capital International Asia-Pacific Index lost 0.3 percent
to 148.10 as of 6:07 p.m. in Tokyo. It closed at a record 148.51 yesterday.
Its relative strength index, based on a 14-day moving average, rose to
74.9yesterday, above the 70 threshold some investors use as a trigger
to sell
shares.

China's Shanghai and Shenzhen 300 Index slumped 9.2 percent from a record
high. It had jumped 13 percent in the past six sessions. The Shanghai
Composite Index, which tracks the bigger of China's stock exchanges, plunged
8.8 percent, the most since Feb. 18, 1997.

Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average lost 0.5 percent. Benchmarks in Australia
and South Korea dropped from all-time highs. All other markets fell, except
in Taiwan which was little changed.

Further Measures?

China Vanke lost 1.58 yuan to 14.26. United Telecommunications
declined 0.54yuan to
4.89. Baoshan Iron  Steel Co., China's biggest steelmaker, slid 10 percent
to 9.03 yuan. Citic Securities Co., China's biggest brokerage, dropped
9.7percent to
36.21 yuan, its biggest drop since Jan. 17.

Investors are concerned China may introduce further austerity measures
around the time government leaders meet for a meeting of the NPC, China's
legislature, which starts March 5. The Chinese government said this week the
State Council had approved a special task force to clamp down on illegal
share offerings and other banned activities in the stock markets.

Last month, China's benchmark tumbled 11 percent in four days after Cheng
Siwei, vice chairman of the NPC, said shares were overvalued. The Shenzhen
and Shanghai index has gained 135 percent in the past 12 months.

`Nervous About Gains'

``The market's very sensitive as it's been trading at record levels and some
stocks are considered overvalued,'' said Fan Dizhao, who helps manage the
equivalent of $1.8 billion with Guotai Asset Management Co. in Shanghai.
``Investors are nervous about recent rapid gains and are not convinced
further share-price increases can be sustained.''

Mitsubishi Estate Co., Japan's No. 2 property developer, slid 3.1 percent to
3,790 yen. The shares climbed 27 percent this year to yesterday's close and
reached a record of 4,000 yen on Feb. 23.

Westfield Group, the world's biggest owner of shopping malls, slid
2.2percent to A$22.26. The shares have gained 6 percent this year,
compared
with a 2.5 percent gain in the SP/ASX 200 Property Trust Index. Westfield
said today that second-half operating profit gained 7.6 percent.

`Overvaluation'

BlueScope Steel Ltd., Australia's biggest steelmaker, dropped 1.5 percent to
A$9.70. Brokerages including Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase  Co. cut
their recommendations on the stock, citing valuation concerns. BlueScope
shares have gained 13 percent this year.

``There are signs of overvaluation in the market,'' said Paul Xiradis, who
helps manage $6.9 billion at Ausbil Dexia Ltd. in Sydney. ``Certainly you're
seeing brokers coming out and downgrading the likes of BlueScope, and the
property sector including Westfield has been at full value for some time.''

Hana Financial Group Inc., South Korea's fourth-largest financial services
company by assets, lost 3.5 percent to 52,500 won. The stock has advanced
7.4 percent this year, compared with a 1.4 percent increase in the benchmark
Kospi index.

China Mobile, the world's largest cell-phone operator by users, fell
2.9percent to HK$74.90. China's investment in third- generation
mobile-phone
services may more than triple next year to 100 billion yuan ($12.9 billion),
the China Securities Journal reported today, citing a report by the State
Information Center.

China Mobile Communications Corp., the parent of Hong Kong- listed China
Mobile, may offer 3G services from the end of October, the Beijing-based
Economic 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: WHO Will Be The WINNER ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja

Sejak kapan TLKM ngak bisa dibandari...

Dari dulu yang turunin dari 5000 ke 4000 juga bandar...

Yang bilang TLKM ngak punya badar musti cepat menyadari..


On 2/27/07, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hari ini 27/2/07 ANTM telah kechup TLKM bahkan closing lebih
tinggi.
Artinya.FIRST MISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
now still waiting new ORDER...

Note: Sorry buat yg pegang TLKM saya nggak ngasih tahu kalau BOZZ
ada agenda mau nurunin TLKM hingga KEPALA 8.000-an.
Cuman kasih SINYAL aja...
Alasannya cukup SENSITIF buat ngomong saham yg katanya NGGAK MUNGKIN
bisa DIBANDARINhehehe
Padahal masih banyak saham (bagus) yg lagi dikerjain turun ama
BOZZ...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Buat yg njago ANTM.

 There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
 Cool...relaxxx

 Masalahnya saya lagi pikir2 ketemu di level berapa yah?
 Di 10.000? 9.000? Atau malah 8.000???
 Hehehe

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
ANDIK MUSTIKA ahmustika@
 wrote:
 
  TLKM VS TINS ? apakah tins dapat mengejar tlkm
 Buat yg njago ANTM.

 There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
 Cool...relaxxx

  ANTM VS PGAS? siapa yang duluan turun . he..he..he...
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Bambang Suprayogi bsuprayogi@
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:52:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WHO Will Be The WINNER ?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Horee TINS go the Winner.
 
  PGAS dan ANTM race pake mesin diesel dengan solar oplosan
 
 
 
  On 2/15/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  sekarang ANTM, TINS dan PGAS sudah SETARA harganya 
  8.800,-
  (walau, PGAS gagal close di 8.800... but 8,850 is not bad
 selisih satu poin)
 
  sekarang the Race akan dimulai  hehehe ...
 
  Ladies and gentlemen  Start Your Engine ...
 
  Let's Guess Who will be the Winner ?
 
  salam,
 
 
 
  oentoeng_q wrote:
 
  Begitulah P. James...
  Yang jelas mulai hari ini saya ingin melihat perlombaan BALAPAN
  antara PGAS, ANTM sama TINS.
  Dan jangan LUPA SOPIR-nya sekarang lagi di megang KEMUDI di
ANTM!!!
 
  Ini cuman mau nunjukkin... .who is the Market Movers?
  Apapun sahamnya yg penting SOPIRNYA
  Ya nggak bozz???
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Yang SUDAH PASTI, malem ini BANYAK YG ENGGA BISA TIDUR menunggu
bunyi ayam berkokok besok pagi...

Tapi besok pagipun ayam tidak berkokok lagi karena kena
peraturan Gubernur tentang larangan unggas di Jakarta..

Tapi embah rasa:
- WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST and the rest kita serahkan semuanya 
  pada KEHENDAK yang diatas...

CHEER and BE HAPPY... WHAT WIL BE, WILL BE...


-- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sampai juga yah di 61,8%
 mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an
 
 salam,
 
 
 
 boyz wrote:
  mohon petunjuk berikutnya mBah,
 
  Sesi II closing menjauh sedikit dari level 38%,
  probabilitas ke 50% (1774) or 61,8% (1760an) gimana mBah ?
  thanks,
 
  salam





[obrolan-bandar] Re: To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
Bombing order terjadi di satu sisi misal

Misal KZ yg bombing beli dari YU sebanyak 1000 lot di cicil dua lot
dua lot. di lakukan oleh hanya satu pihak.
Biasanya di lakukan oleh yg beli di offer atau yg jual langsung di bid.




Fungsi Bombing Order untuk menakut-nakuti lawan agar tidak jadi
nge-bid atau tidak jadi nge-offer, maksudnya agar harga masih bisa di
arahkan.

Fungsi bisa juga untuk tansaksi memidahkan saham antara broker, jika
ada transaksi dari broker yg tidak di tuju,transaksi bisa langsung di
cancel  dengan tingkat kerugian 4 sampai 10 lot.

Fungsi lain yg paling busuk sekali adalah membuat market rusuh
untuk keuntungan pribadi.

Saya lihat seharusnya ada tail bawah yg cukup panjang di index,
dikarenakan bombing order ini index tidak jadi membentuk tail bawah yg
panjang.

Mungkin ada yg ingin merusak pergerakan saham, saya setuju kalo
Internal BEJ melakukan antisipasi cepat terhadap hal ini. bisa jadi
sangat merugikan pergerakan di kemudian hari.


Tips: bagi Trader yg ingin melakukan Bombing Order silahkan pelajari
program kecil yg simple, program ini misa meng-copy pengiriman
perintah dan di kirim lagi dari client ke server secara ber ulang2
dengan hitungan millisecond.

Nama program untuk Bombing Order Winsock Packet Editor atau program
packet sender yg canggih lainnya.

selamat mencoba

Thx



[obrolan-bandar] Re: WHO Will Be The WINNER ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik dazzledtrader
Sebenarnya ada misi lain yg jg accomplished by ANTM, Pak Oen: kechup 
 pass PGAS for 2nd time (PGAS close 9200 vs. ANTM 9250).

Alternatif short-term next mission :
1. Kiss  pass its naughty brother TINS (maybe at 9600-9650?)
2. Samai TLKM record year-high (10450) or life high (10850)
3. Samai TINS life high (11500)

Misi 1 kelihatan sudah dekat. Kalau misi ke-2, gimana Pak Oen? Misi 
3 mungkin agak susah, paling tidak utk short-term, betul Pak?

Salam,
-Darmawan  

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hari ini 27/2/07 ANTM telah kechup TLKM bahkan closing lebih 
 tinggi.
 Artinya.FIRST MISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
 now still waiting new ORDER...
 
 Note: Sorry buat yg pegang TLKM saya nggak ngasih tahu kalau BOZZ 
 ada agenda mau nurunin TLKM hingga KEPALA 8.000-an. 
 Cuman kasih SINYAL aja...
 Alasannya cukup SENSITIF buat ngomong saham yg katanya NGGAK 
MUNGKIN 
 bisa DIBANDARINhehehe
 Padahal masih banyak saham (bagus) yg lagi dikerjain turun ama 
 BOZZ...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ 
 wrote:
 
  Buat yg njago ANTM.
  
  There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
  Cool...relaxxx
  
  Masalahnya saya lagi pikir2 ketemu di level berapa yah?
  Di 10.000? 9.000? Atau malah 8.000???
  Hehehe
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ANDIK MUSTIKA 
ahmustika@ 
  wrote:
  
   TLKM VS TINS ? apakah tins dapat mengejar tlkm
  Buat yg njago ANTM.
  
  There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
  Cool...relaxxx
  
   ANTM VS PGAS? siapa yang duluan turun . he..he..he...
   




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Odink
kl turun dari 1760 lagi.. saya angkat koper mo liburan, sapa tau ketemu  
mbah di hawaii

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:48:07 +0700, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sampai juga yah di 61,8%
 mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: WHO Will Be The WINNER ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Kalau utk P. Halim saya percaya...
tapi tolong kasih saya waktu 1 jam, saya masih bisa nemukan orang se-
TRUK yg katanya Blue Chips itu saham2 yg nggak bisa dibandarin...
Memang kita2 yg nimbrung di waroeng Embah...agak kocak pikirannya.
Hahaha...just kidding.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sejak kapan TLKM ngak bisa dibandari...
 
 Dari dulu yang turunin dari 5000 ke 4000 juga bandar...
 
 Yang bilang TLKM ngak punya badar musti cepat menyadari..
 
 
 On 2/27/07, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hari ini 27/2/07 ANTM telah kechup TLKM bahkan closing lebih
  tinggi.
  Artinya.FIRST MISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
  now still waiting new ORDER...
 
  Note: Sorry buat yg pegang TLKM saya nggak ngasih tahu kalau BOZZ
  ada agenda mau nurunin TLKM hingga KEPALA 8.000-an.
  Cuman kasih SINYAL aja...
  Alasannya cukup SENSITIF buat ngomong saham yg katanya NGGAK 
MUNGKIN
  bisa DIBANDARINhehehe
  Padahal masih banyak saham (bagus) yg lagi dikerjain turun ama
  BOZZ...
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@
  wrote:
  
   Buat yg njago ANTM.
  
   There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
   Cool...relaxxx
  
   Masalahnya saya lagi pikir2 ketemu di level berapa yah?
   Di 10.000? 9.000? Atau malah 8.000???
   Hehehe
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  ANDIK MUSTIKA ahmustika@
   wrote:
   
TLKM VS TINS ? apakah tins dapat mengejar tlkm
   Buat yg njago ANTM.
  
   There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
   Cool...relaxxx
  
ANTM VS PGAS? siapa yang duluan turun . he..he..he...
   
- Original Message 
From: Bambang Suprayogi bsuprayogi@
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:52:10 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WHO Will Be The WINNER ?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Horee TINS go the Winner.
   
PGAS dan ANTM race pake mesin diesel dengan solar oplosan
   
   
   
On 2/15/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote:
   
   
   
   
   
sekarang ANTM, TINS dan PGAS sudah SETARA harganya 
8.800,-
(walau, PGAS gagal close di 8.800... but 8,850 is not bad
   selisih satu poin)
   
sekarang the Race akan dimulai  hehehe ...
   
Ladies and gentlemen  Start Your Engine ...
   
Let's Guess Who will be the Winner ?
   
salam,
   
   
   
oentoeng_q wrote:
   
Begitulah P. James...
Yang jelas mulai hari ini saya ingin melihat perlombaan 
BALAPAN
antara PGAS, ANTM sama TINS.
Dan jangan LUPA SOPIR-nya sekarang lagi di megang KEMUDI di
  ANTM!!!
   
Ini cuman mau nunjukkin... .who is the Market Movers?
Apapun sahamnya yg penting SOPIRNYA
Ya nggak bozz???
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
tapi mbah, yang BELUM pasti, JAKARTA belum MENYEIMBANGKAN DIRI dengan 
REGIONAL-terutama CASINO SANGHAI- so kemungkinan IMLEKan di BEJ 
berlanjutkah mbah??

salam hormat,
gittokurniasanto

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yang SUDAH PASTI, malem ini BANYAK YG ENGGA BISA TIDUR menunggu
bunyi ayam berkokok besok pagi...

Tapi besok pagipun ayam tidak berkokok lagi karena kena
peraturan Gubernur tentang larangan unggas di Jakarta..

Tapi embah rasa:
- WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST and the rest kita serahkan semuanya 
  pada KEHENDAK yang diatas...

CHEER and BE HAPPY... WHAT WIL BE, WILL BE...


-- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sampai juga yah di 61,8%
 mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an
 
 salam,
 
 
 
 boyz wrote:
  mohon petunjuk berikutnya mBah,
 
  Sesi II closing menjauh sedikit dari level 38%,
  probabilitas ke 50% (1774) or 61,8% (1760an) gimana mBah ?
  thanks,
 
  salam








[obrolan-bandar] Re: WHO Will Be The WINNER ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Semua misi yg anda harapkan SEMOGA terjadi di BULAN DEPAN...
Sekarang tinggal tunggu hujan deras REDA...
Soalnya nahan ANTM di level 9000-an ini sampai KERITING kepala...
Hehehe...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dazzledtrader 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sebenarnya ada misi lain yg jg accomplished by ANTM, Pak Oen: 
kechup 
  pass PGAS for 2nd time (PGAS close 9200 vs. ANTM 9250).
 
 Alternatif short-term next mission :
 1. Kiss  pass its naughty brother TINS (maybe at 9600-9650?)
 2. Samai TLKM record year-high (10450) or life high (10850)
 3. Samai TINS life high (11500)
 
 Misi 1 kelihatan sudah dekat. Kalau misi ke-2, gimana Pak Oen? 
Misi 
 3 mungkin agak susah, paling tidak utk short-term, betul Pak?
 
 Salam,
 -Darmawan  
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ 
 wrote:
 
  Hari ini 27/2/07 ANTM telah kechup TLKM bahkan closing lebih 
  tinggi.
  Artinya.FIRST MISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
  now still waiting new ORDER...
  
  Note: Sorry buat yg pegang TLKM saya nggak ngasih tahu kalau 
BOZZ 
  ada agenda mau nurunin TLKM hingga KEPALA 8.000-an. 
  Cuman kasih SINYAL aja...
  Alasannya cukup SENSITIF buat ngomong saham yg katanya NGGAK 
 MUNGKIN 
  bisa DIBANDARINhehehe
  Padahal masih banyak saham (bagus) yg lagi dikerjain turun ama 
  BOZZ...
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q 
oentoeng_q@ 
  wrote:
  
   Buat yg njago ANTM.
   
   There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
   Cool...relaxxx
   
   Masalahnya saya lagi pikir2 ketemu di level berapa yah?
   Di 10.000? 9.000? Atau malah 8.000???
   Hehehe
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ANDIK MUSTIKA 
 ahmustika@ 
   wrote:
   
TLKM VS TINS ? apakah tins dapat mengejar tlkm
   Buat yg njago ANTM.
   
   There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
   Cool...relaxxx
   
ANTM VS PGAS? siapa yang duluan turun . he..he..he...
   





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Daripada kita CAPE-CAPE nganalisa efek Flu Shanghai, kita
liatin aja dulu EFEKnya terhadap bursa dunia nanti malam dan
besok pagi...

Baru kita analisa IHSG dengan menyeimbangkan IHSG dengan index
REGIONAL


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gitto kurniasanto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tapi mbah, yang BELUM pasti, JAKARTA belum MENYEIMBANGKAN DIRI 
dengan REGIONAL-terutama CASINO SANGHAI- so kemungkinan IMLEKan 
di BEJ berlanjutkah mbah??
 
 salam hormat,
 gittokurniasanto
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yang SUDAH PASTI, malem ini BANYAK YG ENGGA BISA TIDUR menunggu
 bunyi ayam berkokok besok pagi...
 
 Tapi besok pagipun ayam tidak berkokok lagi karena kena
 peraturan Gubernur tentang larangan unggas di Jakarta..
 
 Tapi embah rasa:
 - WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST and the rest kita serahkan semuanya 
   pada KEHENDAK yang diatas...
 
 CHEER and BE HAPPY... WHAT WIL BE, WILL BE...
 
 
 -- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote:
 
  sampai juga yah di 61,8%
  mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an
  
  salam,
  
  
  
  boyz wrote:
   mohon petunjuk berikutnya mBah,
  
   Sesi II closing menjauh sedikit dari level 38%,
   probabilitas ke 50% (1774) or 61,8% (1760an) gimana mBah ?
   thanks,
  
   salam
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby
Setuju...


- Original Message - 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:41 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?


 Daripada kita CAPE-CAPE nganalisa efek Flu Shanghai, kita
 liatin aja dulu EFEKnya terhadap bursa dunia nanti malam dan
 besok pagi...
 
 Baru kita analisa IHSG dengan menyeimbangkan IHSG dengan index
 REGIONAL



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
oo iya ya... maklum masi nubie... VIEW nya masih CETEK... waaah bisa seru nih 
mantengin monitor + bloomberg ama CNBC...sekalian FASHION TV kaleee^^

thanks 4 sharing mbah,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daripada kita CAPE-CAPE nganalisa efek Flu Shanghai, kita
liatin aja dulu EFEKnya terhadap bursa dunia nanti malam dan
besok pagi...

Baru kita analisa IHSG dengan menyeimbangkan IHSG dengan index
REGIONAL


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gitto kurniasanto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tapi mbah, yang BELUM pasti, JAKARTA belum MENYEIMBANGKAN DIRI 
dengan REGIONAL-terutama CASINO SANGHAI- so kemungkinan IMLEKan 
di BEJ berlanjutkah mbah??
 
 salam hormat,
 gittokurniasanto
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yang SUDAH PASTI, malem ini BANYAK YG ENGGA BISA TIDUR menunggu
 bunyi ayam berkokok besok pagi...
 
 Tapi besok pagipun ayam tidak berkokok lagi karena kena
 peraturan Gubernur tentang larangan unggas di Jakarta..
 
 Tapi embah rasa:
 - WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST and the rest kita serahkan semuanya 
   pada KEHENDAK yang diatas...
 
 CHEER and BE HAPPY... WHAT WIL BE, WILL BE...
 
 
 -- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote:
 
  sampai juga yah di 61,8%
  mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an
  
  salam,
  
  
  
  boyz wrote:
   mohon petunjuk berikutnya mBah,
  
   Sesi II closing menjauh sedikit dari level 38%,
   probabilitas ke 50% (1774) or 61,8% (1760an) gimana mBah ?
   thanks,
  
   salam
 








Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
oo iya ya... maklum masi nubie... VIEW nya masih CETEK... waaah bisa seru nih 
mantengin monitor + bloomberg ama CNBC...sekalian FASHION TV kaleee^^

thanks 4 sharing mbah,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daripada kita CAPE-CAPE nganalisa efek Flu Shanghai, kita
liatin aja dulu EFEKnya terhadap bursa dunia nanti malam dan
besok pagi...

Baru kita analisa IHSG dengan menyeimbangkan IHSG dengan index
REGIONAL


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gitto kurniasanto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tapi mbah, yang BELUM pasti, JAKARTA belum MENYEIMBANGKAN DIRI 
dengan REGIONAL-terutama CASINO SANGHAI- so kemungkinan IMLEKan 
di BEJ berlanjutkah mbah??
 
 salam hormat,
 gittokurniasanto
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yang SUDAH PASTI, malem ini BANYAK YG ENGGA BISA TIDUR menunggu
 bunyi ayam berkokok besok pagi...
 
 Tapi besok pagipun ayam tidak berkokok lagi karena kena
 peraturan Gubernur tentang larangan unggas di Jakarta..
 
 Tapi embah rasa:
 - WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST and the rest kita serahkan semuanya 
   pada KEHENDAK yang diatas...
 
 CHEER and BE HAPPY... WHAT WIL BE, WILL BE...
 
 
 -- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote:
 
  sampai juga yah di 61,8%
  mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an
  
  salam,
  
  
  
  boyz wrote:
   mohon petunjuk berikutnya mBah,
  
   Sesi II closing menjauh sedikit dari level 38%,
   probabilitas ke 50% (1774) or 61,8% (1760an) gimana mBah ?
   thanks,
  
   salam
 








Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Possible FUTURE IHSG movement ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
oo iya ya... maklum masi nubie... VIEW nya masih CETEK... waaah bisa seru nih 
mantengin monitor + bloomberg ama CNBC...sekalian FASHION TV kaleee^^

thanks 4 sharing mbah,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daripada kita CAPE-CAPE nganalisa efek Flu Shanghai, kita
liatin aja dulu EFEKnya terhadap bursa dunia nanti malam dan
besok pagi...

Baru kita analisa IHSG dengan menyeimbangkan IHSG dengan index
REGIONAL


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gitto kurniasanto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tapi mbah, yang BELUM pasti, JAKARTA belum MENYEIMBANGKAN DIRI 
dengan REGIONAL-terutama CASINO SANGHAI- so kemungkinan IMLEKan 
di BEJ berlanjutkah mbah??
 
 salam hormat,
 gittokurniasanto
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yang SUDAH PASTI, malem ini BANYAK YG ENGGA BISA TIDUR menunggu
 bunyi ayam berkokok besok pagi...
 
 Tapi besok pagipun ayam tidak berkokok lagi karena kena
 peraturan Gubernur tentang larangan unggas di Jakarta..
 
 Tapi embah rasa:
 - WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST and the rest kita serahkan semuanya 
   pada KEHENDAK yang diatas...
 
 CHEER and BE HAPPY... WHAT WIL BE, WILL BE...
 
 
 -- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote:
 
  sampai juga yah di 61,8%
  mudah2an gak ke 100% di level 1720-an
  
  salam,
  
  
  
  boyz wrote:
   mohon petunjuk berikutnya mBah,
  
   Sesi II closing menjauh sedikit dari level 38%,
   probabilitas ke 50% (1774) or 61,8% (1760an) gimana mBah ?
   thanks,
  
   salam
 








Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: WHO Will Be The WINNER ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

misi 1 saja susah kayaknya besok dibuka gap down. ayo siapa yang mau ikutan
nahan di harga 9000.
pertanyaannya : ANTM ditahan karena bandar blm selesai buang barang atau
memang mau diangkat ke atas?
harga nickel turun, index di eropa merah darah seperti bulan mei (minus
100an)
so be ready.
regards

On 2/27/07, dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Sebenarnya ada misi lain yg jg accomplished by ANTM, Pak Oen: kechup
 pass PGAS for 2nd time (PGAS close 9200 vs. ANTM 9250).

Alternatif short-term next mission :
1. Kiss  pass its naughty brother TINS (maybe at 9600-9650?)
2. Samai TLKM record year-high (10450) or life high (10850)
3. Samai TINS life high (11500)

Misi 1 kelihatan sudah dekat. Kalau misi ke-2, gimana Pak Oen? Misi
3 mungkin agak susah, paling tidak utk short-term, betul Pak?

Salam,
-Darmawan


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hari ini 27/2/07 ANTM telah kechup TLKM bahkan closing lebih
 tinggi.
 Artinya.FIRST MISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
 now still waiting new ORDER...

 Note: Sorry buat yg pegang TLKM saya nggak ngasih tahu kalau BOZZ
 ada agenda mau nurunin TLKM hingga KEPALA 8.000-an.
 Cuman kasih SINYAL aja...
 Alasannya cukup SENSITIF buat ngomong saham yg katanya NGGAK
MUNGKIN
 bisa DIBANDARINhehehe
 Padahal masih banyak saham (bagus) yg lagi dikerjain turun ama
 BOZZ...

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@
 wrote:
 
  Buat yg njago ANTM.
 
  There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
  Cool...relaxxx
 
  Masalahnya saya lagi pikir2 ketemu di level berapa yah?
  Di 10.000? 9.000? Atau malah 8.000???
  Hehehe
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
ANDIK MUSTIKA
ahmustika@
  wrote:
  
   TLKM VS TINS ? apakah tins dapat mengejar tlkm
  Buat yg njago ANTM.
 
  There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
  Cool...relaxxx
 
   ANTM VS PGAS? siapa yang duluan turun . he..he..he...
  

 



[obrolan-bandar] Asing borong TRIM?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik aa ss
Hari ini dan kemaren asing paling bsar beli TRIM lewat
BD (bukan bandar!) sebesar lebih dari 6000lot. ada
yang tau?

-zaki-



 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Jangan2 hanya sekadar hujan panas (lewat), ya.
 
Regards,
 
Aria
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josia
Sent: 27 Februari 2007 14:10
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!
 
huehue...waduh, pada berak darah semua nih...
TINS jadi ikut2an berak darah
 
wah dukun sakti kalo udah bernubuat, jadi deh para trader kelenger
 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: jsx_consultant mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!
 
--- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Omong-omong kenapa sih regional merah? Flu burung atau Banjir jakarta
 ditularin ke mereka?

FLUE SHANGHAI 
 


Re: [obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Menurut saya. Harusnya broker tersebut di suspend saja.
  Sangat mengganggu. Tapi koq dibiarkan.
   
  Kalau mau dibilang kasarnya: CARA KAMPUNGAN TUH.
   
  Sepertinya orang BEJ gak MAMPU mengatasi.
   
  Bayangkan saja, berapa orang yg terlambat transaksi karena kasus tsb.
   
  Lagipula termasuk memanipulasi data FREKUENSI TRANSAKSI suatu saham.
   
  Apakah ini gak termasuk KEJAHATAN ?
   
   
   
   
  

sains kompleksitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
embah, sy pikir ini pola manipulasi pasar yang menyebabkan herding 
behaviour bagi investor atau trader lain
   
  memang perlu di batasi
  thx  

 
  On 2/27/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To BEJ: 
BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

Akhir akhir ini, KEBIASAAN LAMA melakukan transaksi dengan
melakukan BOMBING ORDER kembali MERAJALELA

Apakah otoritas bursa LAGI TIDUR ?...

Mau beli saham 100 lot cukup order 1 kali 500 lot dan 
bukannya melakukan BOMBING ORDER secara 
otomatis 500 kali @ 1 lot .

Dulu kebiasaan ini sudah hampir TIDAK ADA, sekarang kebiasaan
ini MUNCUL LAGI didepan hidung otoritas bursa...

BOMBING ORDER ini mengganggu KAPASITAS KEMAMPUAN pengiriman data 
kepada PEMAKAI. Data menjadi terlambat karena sistem BEJ 
harus mengirim data yang DIULANG ULANG padahal TIDAK 
PERLU TERJADI !!!

Selain itu, INI merugikan trader biasa karena KALAH CEPAT
dibanding FLOOR trader. Jadi FLOOR trader bisa seenaknya 
MEMBOM server bej agar trader yang lain menjadi TERLAMBAT
menerima data...

Jadi untuk FAIR TREATMENT bagi semua trader, kami mohon
agar BOMBING ORDER dilarang...








  

 

 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Gap Up - apakah harus selalu ditutup ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
Setelah saya baca2 lagi ternyata bahwa gap bisa menjadi support  maupun 
resistant, baik itu menurut Murphy, J Pring ataupun Steve Nison. Dan  tidak 
selalu harus tertutup. Mungkin yang contoh kemarin itu adalah runaway gap  ya 
pak GL?
 Mr Steve sih bilang gaps = windows, jadi istilah  candlenya adalah closing the 
windows, yang di barat dikenal dengan filling the  gaps.
 

Makasih


JG






 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Jimmy Gunawan
begitu nanti suspend sudah dibuka, IHSG berdarah2...
ampun deh...

JG

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Cowok 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?


  Begitulah Bursa kita.
  Gak ada hujan gak ada angin tapi disuspend.

  Koq setelah bandar jualan habis. Baru di suspend.
  Apakah ada permainan antara bandar dan orang dalam ?

  Kenapa di suspend begitu lama?

  Alasannya apa ?



  Hotma Sirait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya sudah 
kelamaan tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya 
berapa lama sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham 
di-suspend (agak2 grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan 
kenapanya yang jelas, pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung nih.

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[obrolan-bandar] DAG DIG DUG DUERRRR BAGI YANG MASIH PUNYA POSISI !!!

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Saham Bluechip

Siap - siap shor guys ???

FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELT !!!

Om Bandar, ayo buktikan kesaktianmu kalo bisa contrarian melawan regional
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[obrolan-bandar] Economists: Recession Unlikely in 2007

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Soeratman Doerachman
Economists: Recession Unlikely in 2007
Tuesday February 27, 4:56 pm ET 
By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer 


 

Economists Say U.S. Recession Unlikely This Year Despite Warnings From
Greenspan 

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Alan Greenspan and the Wall Street nosedive aside,
economists think the probability of a U.S. recession this year is fairly low
and the likelihood of one in China is even slimmer. 

Greenspan, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve, warned this week that
the world's largest economy -- the United States -- could slip into
recession this year. That would be bad news for the global economy, too.

However, many economists put the probability of a recession at about one in
five. 

The biggest risk to the five-year-old U.S. economic expansion is that the
housing slump might take an unexpected turn for the worse, analysts say. In
one dire scenario, not only would consumers and businesses clamp down on
spending and investing, but troubles could spread to lenders dealing in
risky mortgages, triggering a financial crisis. 

The latest U.S. economic barometers released Tuesday were mostly good, but
they failed to ease investors' anxiety. The Dow Jones Industrials closed
down more than 400 points. At one point during the day, the slide approached
550. 

The National Association of Realtors reported that sales of previously owned
homes -- the biggest chunk of the housing market -- rose by 3 percent in
January from the previous month. That was the largest gain in two years.
While the sales boost was helped out by last month's unusually warm weather,
it still raised hopes that the worst of the residential real-estate bust may
be over. 

Even if that turns out to be the case, the pain of the housing slump will
continue to be felt this year because the inventory of unsold homes is still
bloated. That will take time to fix and may drag down home prices even more.


The nationwide median price of an existing home sold in January sank to
$210,600, a drop of 3.1 percent from last year and the third-largest annual
decline on record. The median price is where half sell for more and half for
less. 

So far, consumers -- the lifeblood of the economy -- have been spending
sufficiently to keep the economy moving ahead. The worry, though, is that
people who had treated their homes like ATMs -- when values were soaring
through the five-year housing boom that ended in 2005 -- will cut back on
their spending as home prices in some markets drop or go up only a little. 

Before Tuesday's huge stock market drop, consumers seemed in buoyant
spirits. 

Consumer confidence zoomed to a 5 1/2-year high in February with people
feeling better about current economic conditions as well as the jobs
climate. The Conference Board's index climbed to 112.5 from 110.2 in
January. That should bode well for the national economy because if consumers
are feeling optimistic they may be more inclined to spend. 

A third report, also released Tuesday, underscored the struggles of the
nation's manufacturers, who have been feeling the strain from the ailing
housing and automotive sectors as well as intense foreign competition.
Orders for big-ticket manufactured goods plunged 7.8 percent in January, the
largest decline since October, the Commerce Department said. 

Economic growth for the final quarter of 2006 is expected to be downgraded
on Wednesday to a subpar 2.3 percent pace from the solid 3.5 percent rate
initially estimated a month ago. 

GDP measures the value of all goods and services produced in the United
States and is the best barometer of the nation's economic fitness. 

For all of this year, the National Association for Business Economics, or
NABE, is predicting the economy to slow to 2.8 percent, down from 3.4
percent in 2006. The Bush administration thinks growth will slow to 2.9
percent, while the Federal Reserve estimates somewhere between 2.5 percent
and 3 percent. The housing slump is expected to be the main culprit. Next
year, though, economic growth would pick up to the 3 percent range. 

The International Monetary Fund, in projections last fall, said the world
economy should hold up well in the face of a slowing U.S. economy and should
grow by a solid 4.9 percent this year. 

China's economy logged blistering growth of 10.7 percent last year -- the
most since 1995. It is expected to slow somewhat to 9.8 percent this year,
according to the country's central bank. 

Brian Bethune, economist at Global Insight, predicted China's growth would
have to slow much more -- to around 6 percent or less -- to precipitate
major economic turmoil. It would take a major slowdown to upset the Chinese
applecart, he said. 

Economists put the odds of a U.S recession this year at about one in five.
It is very rare that business cycles die of old age. It is usually some
shock that leads to recession, said Carl Tannenbaum, chief economist at
LaSalle Bank and president of the NABE. 

The economy's last recession in 2001 was preceded by the 

[obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Soeratman Doerachman
Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge
Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET 
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer 


 

Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global
Market Plunge 

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11,
2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become
overinflated.

The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled
a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising
stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading
in several years. 

A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent
Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S.
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in
late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. 

The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at
12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the
plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading
limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. 

The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day
after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13
percent. 

The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such
as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. 

But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that
began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were
unfazed by Tuesday's drop. 

This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we
don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's
global chief investment officer of equities. 

Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term
perspective. 

All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last
12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding
that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs.
This is another day in the market. 

Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data
showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A
Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped
by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the
direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve
Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a
recession. 

It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. 

The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3
percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly
nervous on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. 

The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also
looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth
straight month. 

But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. 

I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby,
chief investment strategist at The Hartford. 

Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising
as high as 12,795.92. 

The broader Standard  Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at
1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65, or
3.86 percent, at 2,407.87. 

A suicide bomber attack on the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan where
Vice President Dick Cheney was visiting also rattled the market. 

China's stock market plummeted Tuesday from record highs as investors took
profits when concerns arose that the Chinese government may try to temper
its ballooning economy by raising interest rates again or reducing more of
the money available for lending. 

Corrections usually happen because of a catalyst, and this may be it, said
Ed Peters, chief investment 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? 
  

Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge
Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET 
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer 
   
  Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global 
Market Plunge 
  NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 
2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials 
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and 
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated.
  The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a 
possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock 
markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several 
years. 
  A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent 
Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. 
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated 
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late 
afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. 
  The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some 
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 
12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the 
plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading 
limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. 
  The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day 
after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 
percent. 
  The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as 
small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. 
  But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began 
last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by 
Tuesday's drop. 
  This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we 
don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's 
global chief investment officer of equities. 
  Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term 
perspective. 
  All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 
12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that 
he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is 
another day in the market. 
  Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing 
that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce 
Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the 
largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the 
U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan 
said the United States may be headed for a recession. 
  It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said 
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is 
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. 
  The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its 
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 
percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous 
on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. 
  The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also 
looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that 
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later 
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales 
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't 
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight 
month. 
  But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since 
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. 
  I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of 
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief 
investment strategist at The Hartford. 
  Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as 
high as 12,795.92. 
  The broader Standard  Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at 
1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65, or 3.86 
percent, at 2,407.87. 
  A suicide bomber attack on the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan where 
Vice President Dick Cheney was visiting also rattled the market. 
  China's stock market plummeted Tuesday from record highs as investors took 
profits when concerns arose that the Chinese government may try 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Seems can be lower than that number .. may be 1500 will be a good trial for
entry

On 2/28/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above
1700..?


*Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  *Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge*
Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer

*Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on
Global Market Plunge*
NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11,
2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become
overinflated.
The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth,
signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily
rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of
trading in several years.
A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent
Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S.
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in
late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in.
The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent,
at 12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of
the plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's
trading limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated.

The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading
day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or
7.13 percent.
The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such
as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines.
But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that
began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were
unfazed by Tuesday's drop.
This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but
we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll,
BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities.
Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term
perspective.
All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the
last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney,
adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and
downs. This is another day in the market.
Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data
showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A
Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped
by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the
direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve
Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a
recession.
It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people.
The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 
2.3percent from an initial forecast of
3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure
could come in even lower.
The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out,
also looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth
straight month.
But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline.
I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby,
chief investment strategist at The Hartford.
Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising
as high as 12,795.92.
The broader Standard  Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent,
at 1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65,
or 3.86 percent, at 2,407.87.
A suicide bomber attack on the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan
where Vice President Dick Cheney was visiting also rattled the market.
China's stock market plummeted Tuesday from record highs as investors took
profits when concerns arose that the Chinese 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Adhi Sukmono

Dari milis Elliott wave International, kejatuhan DJ sdh diramal oleh Bob
Prechter, tengah bulan ini.

Dow Plummets 400+ points ... What Now?

Experienced analysts know that the time to expect a huge sell-off is when
most people don't.

So, no matter what you read in the after-the-fact explanations about the
February 27 decline, remember this: *Every major market sentiment indicator
showed record or near-record complacency among investors*.

Virtually no one in the media or on Wall Street saw it coming.

The just-published Conference Board report of a five-year high in consumer
confidence simply confirmed previous data. From the VIX index (volatility),
to the historic lows in the spread investors pay for investment-grade
debt, to the low volatility in the FX market, to the *dozens* of feeble
short-term volatility readings in financial assets around the globe -- the
message was the same:
A 500-point intraday decline in the Dow Industrials was the last thing
people expected.

Remember this as well: The downtrend did *not* begin with the big decline on
Tuesday. The selling actually began last *Thursday*, February 22. The talk
about weakness on the Shanghai market is simply noise. Ignore it.

In fact, let's think again about February 22 -- because, notwithstanding the
universal complacency of market participants -- that was the day immediately
after one analyst actually did say, It appears time to get aggressive
again. He wasn't talking about being bullish, either.

That analyst, of course, was Bob Prechter. He made that comment in a special
*Elliott Wave Theorist* Interim Report, which he only sends out at crucial
market junctures. Bob's February 21 Interim was the urgent follow-up to his
February 16 monthly issue, which itself said Now is a good time to assess
the probability for a big decline …

It's important to answer the question in the headline. And, you can have
that answer from the *one* analyst who was NOT surprised by the big decline.

In fact, as this email was being written, EWI's Chief Market Analyst Steve
Hochberg was working on tonight's *Short Term Update* as well as
Friday's *Elliott
Wave Financial Forecast*.


On 2/28/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Seems can be lower than that number .. may be 1500 will be a good trial
for entry


On 2/28/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above
 1700..?


 *Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

   *Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge*
 Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET
 By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer

 *Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on
 Global Market Plunge*
 NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept.
 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones
 industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that
 the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have
 become overinflated.
 The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth,
 signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily
 rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of
 trading in several years.
 A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors
 sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for
 U.S. trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline
 accelerated throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge
 plunge in late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in.
 The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some
 ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29percent, at 
12,
 216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the
 plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading
 limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated.
 The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading
 day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or
 7.13 percent.
 The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues
 such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines.
 But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that
 began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were
 unfazed by Tuesday's drop.
 This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but
 we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll,
 BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities.
 Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term
 perspective.
 All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the
 last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney,
 adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and
 downs. This is another day 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jl
Hello jsx_consultant,

Saya kira cuman di dunia networking saja ada denial attack, ternyata
ada juga dipake ilmu DoS ini di bursa saham... :)

Jl
 To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

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  Apakah otoritas bursa LAGI TIDUR ?...

  Mau beli saham 100 lot cukup order 1 kali 500 lot dan
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[obrolan-bandar] HOW LOW CAN U GO

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Ari
Gak marjin?, sapa takut. TAPI TAKUT ZUGA EUY.i ngeri bgt

-Original Message-
From: Saham Bluechip[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/28/07 4:44:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED], 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DAG DIG DUG DUE BAGI YANG MASIH PUNYA POSISI 
!!!
  Siap - siap shor guys ???

FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELT !!!

Om Bandar, ayo buktikan kesaktianmu kalo bisa contrarian melawan regional
!!!




RE: [obrolan-bandar] KABURRR

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Ari
Hari ini adalah waktunya TIARAP. GW   CABUT  DULU

-Original Message-
From: helmi setiawan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/27/07 5:05:27 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To BEJ: BOMBING ORDER pada Running Trade data

Bombing order terjadi di satu sisi misal

Misal KZ yg bombing beli dari YU sebanyak 1000 lot di cicil dua lot
dua lot. di lakukan oleh hanya satu pihak.
Biasanya di lakukan oleh yg beli di offer atau yg jual langsung di bid.




Fungsi Bombing Order untuk menakut-nakuti lawan agar tidak jadi
nge-bid atau tidak jadi nge-offer, maksudnya agar harga masih bisa di
arahkan.

Fungsi bisa juga untuk tansaksi memidahkan saham antara broker, jika
ada transaksi dari broker yg tidak di tuju,transaksi bisa langsung di
cancel  dengan tingkat kerugian 4 sampai 10 lot.

Fungsi lain yg paling busuk sekali adalah membuat market rusuh
untuk keuntungan pribadi.

Saya lihat seharusnya ada tail bawah yg cukup panjang di index,
dikarenakan bombing order ini index tidak jadi membentuk tail bawah yg
panjang.

Mungkin ada yg ingin merusak pergerakan saham, saya setuju kalo
Internal BEJ melakukan antisipasi cepat terhadap hal ini. bisa jadi
sangat merugikan pergerakan di kemudian hari.


Tips: bagi Trader yg ingin melakukan Bombing Order silahkan pelajari
program kecil yg simple, program ini misa meng-copy pengiriman
perintah dan di kirim lagi dari client ke server secara ber ulang2
dengan hitungan millisecond.

Nama program untuk Bombing Order Winsock Packet Editor atau program
packet sender yg canggih lainnya.

selamat mencoba

Thx




[obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Ricky Dahlan
Gue rasa tidak ada solusi untuk kondisi seperti ini, jual saja yang ada posisi 
berapapun masuknya. . .


 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...TRUB..!!!.has broken its high

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Sumardi Tjin

wah , saya jd bingung p'busur. baru 1 hari sudah  berubah yak. padahal saya
baru masuk pak.
kalo saya mau out , di harga berapa pak ? average saya 745
thks


On 2/27/07, budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  fail.saya udah get out,sentimen idx terlau besar,rgds

*Sumardi Tjin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 tapi skr lagi turun ya pak di 740-750.
apakah sudah ok untuk masuk ?
thks P'Busur


On 2/27/07, budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

main diatas ceceng kalau gak ada aral melintang,rgds

 *Masrivana Yusran [EMAIL PROTECTED] * wrote:

  Salute P' Busur..anyway...TRUB masuk di 780/790 msh ok ga ? target amp
 brp ?  mksi bgt Pak :=D

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[obrolan-bandar] MetalsPlace: Metal profit taking, nikel dan timah masih naik (jangan panik,be cool)

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

Jangan panik deh.. kalu udah turun segala berita buruk serem bin horror
berjibun.. Stick to the trading plan dan make a rational decision.. Emosi
bikin keputusan tidak sehat.




27 February 2007
Base metals down on profit-takinghttp://metalsplace.com/metalsnews/?a=10449

A sharp fall in the Chinese stock market fuelled profit-taking across a
number of the London Metal Exchange base metals Tuesday, with traders
expecting price volatility to continue across the complex over the near
term, analysts said.

The Shanghai Composite Index plunged 8.8% Tuesday to 2771.79, the biggest
fall in percentage terms in a decade, as investors took profits over fears
of fresh macro-tightening policies ahead of the National People's Congress
of China's annual session, which convenes March 5, analysts and traders
said.

With China the world's largest consumer of base metals, the big fear is that
attempts to cool the economy will lead to less consumption of raw materials,
analysts have said.

Profit-taking, particularly following recent stellar gains in copper, zinc
and lead pressured those same metals lower Tuesday, said a London-based
metals trader.

Three-month copper traded to a PM kerb of $6,220/ton, down 0.7% from Monday,
while zinc traded to a PM kerb of $3,580/ton, down roughly 1% from Monday.

The drop in China's benchmark stock index also sent ripples through markets
around the world. European stock markets tumbled and the Dow Jones
Industrial Average fell. Meanwhile, the euro jumped against the dollar to
$1.324.

However, the sell-off in metals on the back of the equities seems to have
run into good underlying buying, said William Adams of BaseMetals.com, and
the test will now be whether the rebound can hold on to the gains.

Three-month lead also took profits from its recent record high of
$1,955/ton, retreating to a PM kerb of $1,905/ton. However, uncertainty over
Xstrata PLC's Mount Isa mine in Australia continue to provide underlying
support.

On Feb. 12 Xstrata imposed temporary restrictions to deliveries from its
161,000-ton Northfleet lead refinery in the U.K., which takes its feedstock
from Mount Isa.

In other metals, three-month tin remained just under recent record high
levels of $13,975/ton on reports that seven privately owned tin smelters in
Indonesia have been told to resubmit their applications for export permits.

This move by the world's largest tin producer dents any hope of a rebound in
tin exports from Indonesia in the near future.

Prices in dollar a metric ton.

3 Months Metal Bid-AskChange from

Monday PM kerb

Copper   6220.0-6230.0  Dn   60

Lead 1905.0-1910.0  Dn   33

Zinc 3580.0-3581.0  Dn   15

Aluminium2881.0-2882.0  Dn9

Nickel  41650.0-41655.0 Up  350

Tin 13550.0-13600.0 Up   75

*Source*: Hoovers


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Karno Edy
Sapa yang sarap ?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Teddy Halim 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:31 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007


  Nyarap dulu ahh... gimana pandangan dari negeri jiran

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  Subject: Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007
  To: Group Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  Dear Readers, 



  Attached please find our Daily Breakfast Spread for February 28. Key points 
include: 



  HK: 4Q GDP and the 2007-08 Budget will be announced today. 



  MY:  Inflation and 4Q GDP are on tap today. 



  TH:   The BOT's Monetary Policy Committee meeting and 
economic data release for Jan06 are the key events today while Feb06 inflation 
numbers will be released tomorrow. 



  IN:   It is Budget day today as well as the 3Q GDP release. 



  EZ:   February CPI flash estimates and January CPI figures 
are due today and tomorrow respectively. 



  Currencies:JPY carry trades unwind on weak USD. 



  Fixed Incomes:  Portfolio rebalancing away from risky assets bodes 
well for US Treasuries. 





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

Kalau market melangit terbang kali gini ya: Tidak ada solusi beli saja semua
saham?

Up dan down of a market is normal. What goes up must come down, roda kadang
diatas kadang dibawah.
What is your plan?Kalau pegang saham bagus dan bukan pake uang panas why the
hell one should be worried?

Jaman gini segala soothsayer akan bilang sama bikin panik dan cemas..

Banyak yg asal ngomong ngipasin yang ngga ngga..

Kuncinya jangan panik, berpikir tenang.

th


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

Hehehe good morning pak KE, sarapan... maksudnya
Ready for the exciting day pak?

salam sejahtera,
t


[obrolan-bandar] IHSG -73 , Bagaimana saluran internet anda hari ini ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Persada
Saat indeks -73, bagaimana koneksi internet yang anda pakai ?
   

  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Rei
Setuju pak, kalo main saham menurut saya pribadi HARUS tenang, tp seperti saya 
bilang kalo trader justru kan harus mengikuti arah naik turun index supaya bisa 
memanfaatkan peluang sebaik2-nya. Kalo saya investor justru bersifat 
kontrarian, beli disaat org2 jual semua, jual disaat org2 beli. Memang mesti 
stick to each own trading plan, stick with it (discipline). 
   
  Salam,
Rei

Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kalau market melangit terbang kali gini ya: Tidak ada solusi beli 
saja semua saham?

Up dan down of a market is normal. What goes up must come down, roda kadang 
diatas kadang dibawah.
What is your plan?Kalau pegang saham bagus dan bukan pake uang panas why the 
hell one should be worried? 

Jaman gini segala soothsayer akan bilang sama bikin panik dan cemas..

Banyak yg asal ngomong ngipasin yang ngga ngga..

Kuncinya jangan panik, berpikir tenang.

th



 

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MetalsPlace: Metal profit taking, nikel dan timah masih naik (jangan panik,be cool)

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Rei
Stick to your trading plan  make a rational decision...Emosi bikin keputusan 
tidak sehat
  Pak, 100 buat bapak! Bravo. Tapi trader lain pak dgn investor...

Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jangan panik deh.. kalu udah turun segala berita buruk serem bin 
horror berjibun.. Stick to the trading plan dan make a rational decision.. 
Emosi bikin keputusan tidak sehat.



  
 

  27 February 2007
  Base metals down on profit-takingA sharp fall in the Chinese stock market 
fuelled profit-taking across a number of the London Metal Exchange base metals 
Tuesday, with traders expecting price volatility to continue across the complex 
over the near term, analysts said.
  The Shanghai Composite Index plunged 8.8% Tuesday to 2771.79, the biggest 
fall in percentage terms in a decade, as investors took profits over fears of 
fresh macro-tightening policies ahead of the National People's Congress of 
China's annual session, which convenes March 5, analysts and traders said.
  With China the world's largest consumer of base metals, the big fear is that 
attempts to cool the economy will lead to less consumption of raw materials, 
analysts have said.
  Profit-taking, particularly following recent stellar gains in copper, zinc 
and lead pressured those same metals lower Tuesday, said a London-based metals 
trader.
  Three-month copper traded to a PM kerb of $6,220/ton, down 0.7% from Monday, 
while zinc traded to a PM kerb of $3,580/ton, down roughly 1% from Monday.
  The drop in China's benchmark stock index also sent ripples through markets 
around the world. European stock markets tumbled and the Dow Jones Industrial 
Average fell. Meanwhile, the euro jumped against the dollar to $1.324.
  However, the sell-off in metals on the back of the equities seems to have 
run into good underlying buying, said William Adams of BaseMetals.com, and 
the test will now be whether the rebound can hold on to the gains.
  Three-month lead also took profits from its recent record high of $1,955/ton, 
retreating to a PM kerb of $1,905/ton. However, uncertainty over Xstrata PLC's 
Mount Isa mine in Australia continue to provide underlying support.
  On Feb. 12 Xstrata imposed temporary restrictions to deliveries from its 
161,000-ton Northfleet lead refinery in the U.K., which takes its feedstock 
from Mount Isa.
  In other metals, three-month tin remained just under recent record high 
levels of $13,975/ton on reports that seven privately owned tin smelters in 
Indonesia have been told to resubmit their applications for export permits.
  This move by the world's largest tin producer dents any hope of a rebound in 
tin exports from Indonesia in the near future.

Prices in dollar a metric ton.

3 Months Metal Bid-AskChange from

 Monday PM kerb

Copper   6220.0-6230.0  Dn   60

Lead 1905.0-1910.0Dn   33

Zinc 3580.0-3581.0  Dn   15

Aluminium2881.0-2882.0  Dn9

Nickel  41650.0-41655.0 Up  350

Tin 13550.0-13600.0 Up   75

  Source: Hoovers
  

 

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG -73 , Bagaimana saluran internet anda hari ini ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik hst auto

pasti semua berfikir mau masuk apa gak ya...
btw gw hub broker gak diangkat... keliatannya ada usaha spy trader gak bisa
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Arief Agus Djunarjanto
Termasuk buat investor kecelakaan ya p Teddy :-)

Udah keburu pegang top 5 bue chip, masak sih nggak rebound. Time
horisonnya kali, yang harus dipanjangin. 1thn .., 2thn.

Arief

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Halim
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:24 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

 

Kalau market melangit terbang kali gini ya: Tidak ada solusi beli saja
semua saham?

Up dan down of a market is normal. What goes up must come down, roda
kadang diatas kadang dibawah.
What is your plan?Kalau pegang saham bagus dan bukan pake uang panas why
the hell one should be worried? 

Jaman gini segala soothsayer akan bilang sama bikin panik dan cemas..

Banyak yg asal ngomong ngipasin yang ngga ngga..

Kuncinya jangan panik, berpikir tenang.

th

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Josia
wah payah nih pada paniknyante aja dong...pasar inpres ga akan kena efect 
walmart

cheers

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ricky Dahlan 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:46 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out



  Gue rasa tidak ada solusi untuk kondisi seperti ini, jual saja yang ada 
posisi berapapun masuknya. . .


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: WHO Will Be The WINNER ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik dazzledtrader
Mission 1 almost accomplished ... with a catch. It's not at 9650. 
Most likely at 8800-9000. Now ANTM 8800, TINS 8900. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 misi 1 saja susah kayaknya besok dibuka gap down. ayo siapa yang 
mau ikutan
 nahan di harga 9000.
 pertanyaannya : ANTM ditahan karena bandar blm selesai buang 
barang atau
 memang mau diangkat ke atas?
 harga nickel turun, index di eropa merah darah seperti bulan mei 
(minus
 100an)
 so be ready.
 regards
 
 On 2/27/07, dazzledtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Sebenarnya ada misi lain yg jg accomplished by ANTM, Pak Oen: 
kechup
   pass PGAS for 2nd time (PGAS close 9200 vs. ANTM 9250).
 
  Alternatif short-term next mission :
  1. Kiss  pass its naughty brother TINS (maybe at 9600-9650?)
  2. Samai TLKM record year-high (10450) or life high (10850)
  3. Samai TINS life high (11500)
 
  Misi 1 kelihatan sudah dekat. Kalau misi ke-2, gimana Pak Oen? 
Misi
  3 mungkin agak susah, paling tidak utk short-term, betul Pak?
 
  Salam,
  -Darmawan
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@
  wrote:
  
   Hari ini 27/2/07 ANTM telah kechup TLKM bahkan closing lebih
   tinggi.
   Artinya.FIRST MISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
   now still waiting new ORDER...
  
   Note: Sorry buat yg pegang TLKM saya nggak ngasih tahu kalau 
BOZZ
   ada agenda mau nurunin TLKM hingga KEPALA 8.000-an.
   Cuman kasih SINYAL aja...
   Alasannya cukup SENSITIF buat ngomong saham yg katanya NGGAK
  MUNGKIN
   bisa DIBANDARINhehehe
   Padahal masih banyak saham (bagus) yg lagi dikerjain turun ama
   BOZZ...
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@
   wrote:
   
Buat yg njago ANTM.
   
There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
Cool...relaxxx
   
Masalahnya saya lagi pikir2 ketemu di level berapa yah?
Di 10.000? 9.000? Atau malah 8.000???
Hehehe
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  ANDIK MUSTIKA
  ahmustika@
wrote:

 TLKM VS TINS ? apakah tins dapat mengejar tlkm
Buat yg njago ANTM.
   
There's new mission...has orderedCATCH UP TLKM!?
Cool...relaxxx
   
 ANTM VS PGAS? siapa yang duluan turun . he..he..he...

 
   
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik bob anti
Wise Advice Pak. Much appreciated.
Market is improving at the moment, move from -77 to -68 at the moment.
Contrarian?

- Original Message 
From: Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:23:44 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

Kalau market melangit terbang kali gini ya: Tidak ada solusi beli saja semua 
saham?

Up dan down of a market is normal. What goes up must come down, roda kadang 
diatas kadang dibawah.
What is your plan?Kalau pegang saham bagus dan bukan pake uang panas why the 
hell one should be worried? 

Jaman gini segala soothsayer akan bilang sama bikin panik dan cemas..

Banyak yg asal ngomong ngipasin yang ngga ngga..

Kuncinya jangan panik, berpikir tenang.

th





 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

No problem pak KE, I know you r kiddin..

Nyesal tadi ragu ambil ANTM di 8500.. udah feeling ini cuman temporary..kmrn
br lepas di 9250 hehehe..
Kumaha pak... yang laen...? I hope no panic lah..

th


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Josia
Wah yang kemaren jual TINS di harga tinggi bisa nampung harga murah lagi nih 
karena ada trader kebakaran jenggot yang jualan pake emosi dan ga pake rasio.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Karno Edy 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007



  Hehehe Pak, sorry lagi happy.
  Salam sejahtera juga Pak, baru sarapan Bank Mandiri, lagi hunting ANTM

- Original Message - 
From: Teddy Halim 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Daily Breakfast Spread - 28 February 2007


Hehehe good morning pak KE, sarapan... maksudnya
Ready for the exciting day pak?

salam sejahtera,
t



   


[obrolan-bandar] Flu SHANGHAI kasih WINDFALL

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
WINDFALL bagi yang engga punya barang


Flue SHANGHAI memberi GAIN YG LUAR BIASA bagi yang
engga punya barang...

BC down habis udah gitu naik lagi... hehehe




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

kena 161.8% langsung mental
regards

On 2/28/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Seems can be lower than that number .. may be 1500 will be a good trial
for entry


On 2/28/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above
 1700..?


 *Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

   *Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge*
 Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET
 By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer

 *Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on
 Global Market Plunge*
 NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept.
 11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones
 industrials down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that
 the U.S. and Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have
 become overinflated.
 The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth,
 signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily
 rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of
 trading in several years.
 A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors
 sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for
 U.S. trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline
 accelerated throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge
 plunge in late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in.
 The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some
 ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29percent, at 
12,
 216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the
 plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading
 limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated.
 The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading
 day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or
 7.13 percent.
 The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues
 such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines.
 But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that
 began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were
 unfazed by Tuesday's drop.
 This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but
 we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll,
 BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities.
 Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term
 perspective.
 All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the
 last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney,
 adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and
 downs. This is another day in the market.
 Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data
 showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A
 Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped
 by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the
 direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve
 Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a
 recession.
 It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said
 Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is
 good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people.
 The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its
 estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about
 2.3 percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew
 increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower.
 The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out,
 also looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that
 single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later
 report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales
 climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't
 erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth
 straight month.
 But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since
 October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline.
 I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of
 issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby,
 chief investment strategist at The Hartford.
 Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs,
 rising as high as 12,795.92.
 The broader Standard  Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent,
 at 1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65,
 or 3.86 percent, at 2,407.87.
 A suicide bomber attack on the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan
 where Vice President Dick 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG -73 , Bagaimana saluran internet anda hari ini ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Cubit Aja
Bukan usaha lah, banyak order yg masuk (baik jual maupun beli?), saya juga gak 
bisa hub broker tadi pagi untuk order.

cubit

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  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG -73 , Bagaimana saluran internet anda hari 
ini ?


  pasti semua berfikir mau masuk apa gak ya...
  btw gw hub broker gak diangkat... keliatannya ada usaha spy trader gak bisa 
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Saat indeks -73, bagaimana koneksi internet yang anda pakai ?




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan

Pak FS.. it's a little bit frightened situation here, however I have
collected some growth stocks when JCI turning back at 1700 level. Stock sale
not to be missed I think. But still I monitore this current situation,
because although some buying interest, also the selling force is in the
moderate mode.

Regards

On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



ughbit reluctant to express opinion here  as I am just nobody...
people in this room are all smart and good analysts

I do believe that ON-MONTH inflation in February could go up as much as
1.6% vs 1.04% in January, while ON-YEAR could be at 6.7% in February vs
6.26% in January. This may force the central bank to pause the interest
rate cycle at 9.25%. BUT, if the central bank officials smartly observe
that the Fed may cut interest rate as late as June, they have to prepare to
narrow the gap by cutting interest rate to 9% in March...

Anyway, the inflation rate, i think, would be factored in...and may be you
are correct that 1750 (of index) is a good level for buying. In a worse
scenario, the main index may go down as low as 1730, IF INFLATION IN
FEBRUARY IS MORE THAN 2%.

Anyway, still, a fund flow is another strategic investment
information...EPFR estimates that if the Fed cuts rate, the first have to
meet for the spill over of the U.S. fund is the emerging markets

A bit too technical, but it's just a share...

top picks remain mining, telecommunication (BTEL may be shooting star),
and plantation sectors...

dicslaimer is heavily on...






*Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Nice obs, I expect people still can cheong la if collect it at 1750 or
1710, many FS will be issued this coming weeks. But I wonder whether there
is stil enough power to go through 1830? Expect fresh funds from prince of
arabian, Casper the ghost or other big funds? What sector will be benefited?
and who are the trendmaker? What about inflation? BI rate? Export growth?
DJ? Regional? So many questions should be answer right now, then after that
I could only make decision.

On 2/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

it's just a commentdont bother
 i do really espect any commentif i say nice it means, it does,
 nice
 it's a free room...rite..? everyone can make a comment
 it could be right that the main index today (Tuesday) may be going
 downbut, any fall could provide room for collection...let's see whether
 Wednesday could worsen or be even better...
 cheers

 *James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  He control lots of portfolio so desperately displeased if lots of
 trader shorting the stock and could cause temporary profit recording ...
 heheheh

 On 2/26/07, hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
 Observing your few last postings on this discussion group, i hardly
  noticed any use of your comments. They are either discrediting or only
  making fun of people with genuine idea or thought.  Sometimes even concern
  or fear. And most of the time you act like you control the price of things,
  like Mr Richie RIch.
 
  Sorry, oneliner.
 
 
 
  *Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
   hahahaha nice.nice
  let's see whether the market tomorrow (Tuesday rite..?) will be just
  upsided down from what you are expecting.
  cheers
 
  *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
   Jaketnya om.. Payung om.. dari pada basah kuyup kena guyur om.. BMG
  atau Badan Meramal Guyuran dari Republik Mimpi mengindikasikan bahwa Yakarta
  besok akan diguyur hujan lebat. Untuk yang mau jalan besok hari diminta
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Kobong berjamaah juga.. TLKM ADR di NYSE

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik feter
Sorry pak teddy,

 

Saya mau Tanya nih, close di 37.74, dg kurs 9,100 kok bisa dapat 8,600,
hitungannya bgmn yah?

Mohon petunjuk pak, saya belum ngarti ni.

 

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Teddy Halim
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:27 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kobong berjamaah juga.. TLKM ADR di NYSE

 



After Hours: 37.74 0.00 (0.00%) as of 6:41pm ET on 02/27/07 




Last Trade:

37.74


Trade Time:

4:11PM ET


Change:

 Down http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/fi/03rd/down_r.gif 3.36
(8.18%)


Prev Close:

41.10


Open:

40.74


Bid:

N/A


Ask:

N/A


1y Target Est:

45.78

 



Day's Range:

37.50 - 40.75


52wk Range: 

26.05 - 47.40


Volume:

579,200


Avg Vol (3m):

344,813


Market Cap:

18.97B


P/E (ttm):

14.98


EPS (ttm):

2.52


Div  Yield:

1.00 (2.40%)

 

 http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=1d Perusahaan Perseroan
Perseropt PTelekomunikasi Indonesia tbk (TLK)


 

1d http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=1d   5d
http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=5d   3m
http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=3m   6m
http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=6m   1y
http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=1y   2y
http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=2y   5y
http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=5y   max
http://finance.yahoo.com/charts#symbol=TLK;range=my   


 

 


Market http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/finance?ch=1316259  Updates Hourly
from Fox Business Now. Watch. 


Tutup di Rp. 8600 NYSE (pake kurs 9100).

Short TLKM.. kobong berjamaah..

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kobong berjamaah juga.. TLKM ADR di NYSE

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Tonny
saya coba bantu y pak TH
Pak Feter, 1 ADR itu sama dengan 40 lbr saham. jadi (37.74$ x 9100)/40 = 
8585.85 dibuletin jadi 8600.
segitu aja,, mohon dikoreksi jika salah.. maklum newbie jg nih..

TY
  - Original Message - 
  From: feter 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Kobong berjamaah juga.. TLKM ADR di NYSE



  Sorry pak teddy,



  Saya mau Tanya nih, close di 37.74, dg kurs 9,100 kok bisa dapat 8,600, 
hitungannya bgmn yah?

  Mohon petunjuk pak, saya belum ngarti ni.






--

  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Teddy Halim
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:27 AM
  To: undisclosed-recipients:
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kobong berjamaah juga.. TLKM ADR di NYSE



  After Hours: 37.74 0.00 (0.00%) as of 6:41pm ET on 02/27/07 
 

   
Last Trade:
   37.74
   
Trade Time:
   4:11PM ET
   
Change:
   3.36 (8.18%)
   
Prev Close:
   41.10
   
Open:
   40.74
   
Bid:
   N/A
   
Ask:
   N/A
   
1y Target Est:
   45.78
   

 

   
   Day's Range:
   37.50 - 40.75
   
52wk Range: 
   26.05 - 47.40
   
Volume:
   579,200
   
Avg Vol (3m):
   344,813
   
Market Cap:
   18.97B
   
P/E (ttm):
   14.98
   
EPS (ttm):
   2.52
   
Div  Yield:
   1.00 (2.40%)
   

 

   
   


 

1d  5d  3m  6m  1y  2y  5y  max  


 



  Market Updates Hourly from Fox Business Now. Watch. 
 

   


  Tutup di Rp. 8600 NYSE (pake kurs 9100).

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik franky w
ada yg tiarap, cuci-cuci, ada juga yg isi gudang...
saya ikut yg isi gudang aja ah...


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Cowok 
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:24 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG



  Thanks semua atas jualan jualannya kemarin.

  Isi gudang yang sudah kosong untuk menyambut panen.

  - TLKM
  - ISAT
  - PGAS
  - BMRI
  - CMNP
  - TINS

  NYAM NYAM NYAM




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[obrolan-bandar] Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT


IHSG rebound ke -58 di 1705

BC direboundkan agar para BB bisa melakukan 
proses SWITCHING portfolio..

Pak Frederick dan ahli ekonomi macro lainnya, mau tanya nih:

- Apakah ini merupakan badai yg akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT ?
  







RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG -73 , Bagaimana saluran internet anda hari ini ?

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Rudy
Saluran Internet sih ok2 saja. Saya rasa tdk ada konspirasi dari pihak
broker utk sengaja berbuat begitu. Hr ini khan byk yg panic jual2an,
sementara broker yg di sekuritas khan tdk byk orang, bisa jadi mereka juga
kerepotan jwb telepon dari nasabah yang dating bertubi2 tiada hentinya.

 

Salam,

Rudy

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Cubit Aja
Sent: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:35 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG -73 , Bagaimana saluran internet anda
hari ini ?

 

Bukan usaha lah, banyak order yg masuk (baik jual maupun beli?), saya juga
gak bisa hub broker tadi pagi untuk order.

 

cubit

 

- Original Message - 

From: hst auto mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:03 AM

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG -73 , Bagaimana saluran internet anda
hari ini ?

 

pasti semua berfikir mau masuk apa gak ya...
btw gw hub broker gak diangkat... keliatannya ada usaha spy trader gak bisa
beli barang murah!!





[obrolan-bandar] Data harga bergerak lebih cepat daripada gerakan info harga

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Data harga bergerak lebih cepat daripada gerakan info harga


Tadi pagi ketika IHSG -70, begitu banyak BC yang MURAH MERIAH,
tapi embah rasa engga banyak yang bisa MENIKMATI OBRALAN INI,
karena harga BERGERAK lebih cepat dari pada kecepatan kita
menerima data harga...

Cuman sekuritas beras yang PUNYA LINK KOMUNIKASI CEPAT ke BEJ 
langsung yang bisa mengejar gerakan harga. 

Sedangkan trader biasa lewat internet CUMAN BISA berHARAP agar harga
sampai pada HARGA BID, tanpa BISA MENGEJAR harga BC yang naik
begitu cepat



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
I can see that there is still a light at the end of the tunnel, i mean the 
storm.
  and China shares...already rebounded.
  just sharing

jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Banyak yang berfikir ini adalah panic selling...

Embah pikir ini adalah PANIC DISENGAJA:
- BC yang mau DIHOLD dihancurin lalu diambil balik sedangkan
- Barang yang mau DISWITCH dijual saat BC diatas diangkat balik.

Jadi ini TEKNIK SWITCHING portfolio disaat terjadi perubahan 
fundamental ekonomi untuk mengamankan PORTFOLIO...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Snoopy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Matur Nuwun bah,
 
 
 
 Ogut pegang berlalu...sebentar lagi langit cerah..oye...
 
 
 
 Cucumu yang naughty.
 
 
 
 _ 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
 Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:50 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau 
BERLANJUT
 
 
 
 Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT
 
 IHSG rebound ke -58 di 1705
 
 BC direboundkan agar para BB bisa melakukan 
 proses SWITCHING portfolio..
 
 Pak Frederick dan ahli ekonomi macro lainnya, mau tanya nih:
 
 - Apakah ini merupakan badai yg akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT ?




 

 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Pada SAAT BEGINI, para investor jangka panjang dan FM yang 
biasanya lagi baca koran, SEDANG SIBUK nuker komposisi portfolio.

Para trader yang tadi pagi main pada TIME WINDOWS PENDEK,
yang cuman ukuran MENIT DOANG, sedang TERTAWA terbahak-bahak.. 

Yang punya barang tapi duitnya masih ada masih bisa belanja
buat AVERAGE DOWN...

Yang amunisinya udah mentok atau komunikasi  internetnya 
DIGANGGU cuman bisa MELONGO...

Makanya line internet harus punya CADANGAN 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can see that there is still a light at the end of the tunnel, i 
mean the storm.
   and China shares...already rebounded.
   just sharing
 
 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Banyak yang berfikir ini adalah panic selling...
 
 Embah pikir ini adalah PANIC DISENGAJA:
 - BC yang mau DIHOLD dihancurin lalu diambil balik sedangkan
 - Barang yang mau DISWITCH dijual saat BC diatas diangkat balik.
 
 Jadi ini TEKNIK SWITCHING portfolio disaat terjadi perubahan 
 fundamental ekonomi untuk mengamankan PORTFOLIO...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Snoopy snoopy.app@ 
 wrote:
 
  Matur Nuwun bah,
  
  
  
  Ogut pegang berlalu...sebentar lagi langit cerah..oye...
  
  
  
  Cucumu yang naughty.
  
  
  
  _ 
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:50 AM
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau 
 BERLANJUT
  
  
  
  Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT
  
  IHSG rebound ke -58 di 1705
  
  BC direboundkan agar para BB bisa melakukan 
  proses SWITCHING portfolio..
  
  Pak Frederick dan ahli ekonomi macro lainnya, mau tanya nih:
  
  - Apakah ini merupakan badai yg akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT ?
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
hmmm... hari ini sesi 1 aja guede pisan VOLUME nya...sesi 2 ama sesok ada 
lanjutannya nih kayaknya...^^,
nunggu besok aja aaah... liat2 RUPIAH juga JANGAN LUPA!!...

happy trading

salam hangat,
gittokurniasanto

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:) You've better for the time-being to take any actions then (than
having a thought or just watching on) -  but it heavily depends upon
what is your beliefs  values really in minds eventually.Right, Jack 
 
:) USD/1DR = 9,172 (+ 82) -- it's stormy-weather
continuously with quite strong impact .
 
Regards,
 
Aria
 
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of franky w
Sent: 28 Februari 2007 10:36
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG
 
ada yg tiarap, cuci-cuci, ada juga yg isi gudang...
saya ikut yg isi gudang aja ah...
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Jack Cowok mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saham@yahoogroups.com com 
Cc: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG
 
Thanks semua atas jualan jualannya kemarin.
 
Isi gudang yang sudah kosong untuk menyambut panen.
 
- TLKM
- ISAT
- PGAS
- BMRI
- CMNP
- TINS
 
NYAM NYAM NYAM
 
 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
Dapet dikit mbah tadi di poly.. main 15 menitan, dapet 4 poin...
Mau gorengan mau bukan yang penting cuan.

Yang lainnya ketinggalan kereta rally mbah, abis telat bangun.
kayaknya kalo gak mancing sehari pikiran jadi pusing, bawaan kesel aja...

Berjayalah  trader menitan... ayo cangkul terus.

 



[obrolan-bandar] market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik lord oho the trader


[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Jacky Chen udah naek lagi +4%...




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan

Shanghai in positive territory about 3% at 15:00 WIB.

On 2/28/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   I can see that there is still a light at the end of the tunnel, i mean
the storm.
and China shares...already rebounded.
just sharing

*jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Banyak yang berfikir ini adalah panic selling...

Embah pikir ini adalah PANIC DISENGAJA:
- BC yang mau DIHOLD dihancurin lalu diambil balik sedangkan
- Barang yang mau DISWITCH dijual saat BC diatas diangkat balik.

Jadi ini TEKNIK SWITCHING portfolio disaat terjadi perubahan
fundamental ekonomi untuk mengamankan PORTFOLIO...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Snoopy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Matur Nuwun bah,



 Ogut pegang berlalu...sebentar lagi langit cerah..oye...



 Cucumu yang naughty.



 _

 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto:
obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
 Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:50 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau
BERLANJUT



 Flu SHANGHAI: badai akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT

 IHSG rebound ke -58 di 1705

 BC direboundkan agar para BB bisa melakukan
 proses SWITCHING portfolio..

 Pak Frederick dan ahli ekonomi macro lainnya, mau tanya nih:

 - Apakah ini merupakan badai yg akan BERLALU atau BERLANJUT ?





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[obrolan-bandar] mau isi gudang internet error , fren ku ngadat.......ya terpaksa deh...ngeliatin doang

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Asep Buhori
 
 


 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik edy1276
Bozz..
Ini Healty/temporary correction or TRUE BEARISH signal?
Mohon pencerahan atau bisik-bisik dari Tetangga...
TRIMS BANGET



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 Si Pitung naeknya besok kali. Hari ini udah pada ngaso kekenyangan,
 sementara yang kabur masih meredakan nafas dan jantungnya.
 
 On 2/28/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jacky Chen udah naek lagi +4%...





[obrolan-bandar] Re: mau isi gudang internet error , fren ku ngadat.......ya terpaksa deh...ngeliatin doang

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Si BOZZ engga mungkin kasih untung PULUHAN JUTA dalam hitungan
menit. Jadi ^%$$#$%**

Jurus PANIC DISENGAJA TADI PAGI, bener bener SERANGAN KESELATAN
dalam 5 menit dan BALIK NYERANG KEATAS SECEPAT KILAT !!!

Disini yang diperlukan bukan TA, FA, atau ilmu lainnya,
cukup INSTINCT/NALURI apa yang mau dilakukan siBOZZ...

Dan tentunya INTERNET/KOMUNIKASI kebroker harus LANCAR... 

Nah APA SELANJUTNYA

Ada yang punya EXTENDED INSTINCT atau selanjutnya kita pake
TA ?.


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[obrolan-bandar] WAPO - New Toys

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Bagi para penggemar CNKO,
   
  Boleh coba main di WAPO daripada nunggu suspend di buka.
   
  Mumpung index lagi merah.
   
   

 
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[obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Thanks semua atas jualan jualannya kemarin.
   
  Isi gudang yang sudah kosong untuk menyambut panen.
   
  - TLKM
  - ISAT
  - PGAS
  - BMRI
  - CMNP
  - TINS
   
  NYAM NYAM NYAM
   
   

 
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[obrolan-bandar] GUDANG HAMPIR PENUH - BUY BUY BUY

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
GILA!
   
  Gudang hampir full.
   
  Sisa 20%
   
  BUY TERUS..
  GUYUR TERUS...
   
   
   

 
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[obrolan-bandar] TRUB..TRUB... to pak Busur..

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Bayou HP
bagaimana dengan trub pak busur? apa bisa di borong lagi ??

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
:) You've better for the time-being to take any actions then (than
having a thought or just watching on) -  but it heavily depends upon
what is your beliefs  values really in minds eventually.Right, Jack 
 
:) USD/1DR = 9,172 (+ 82) -- it's stormy-weather
continuously with quite strong impact .
 
Regards,
 
Aria
 
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of franky w
Sent: 28 Februari 2007 10:36
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG
 
ada yg tiarap, cuci-cuci, ada juga yg isi gudang...
saya ikut yg isi gudang aja ah...
 
 
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From: Jack Cowok mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saham@yahoogroups.com com 
Cc: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] WAKTU ISI GUDANG
 
Thanks semua atas jualan jualannya kemarin.
 
Isi gudang yang sudah kosong untuk menyambut panen.
 
- TLKM
- ISAT
- PGAS
- BMRI
- CMNP
- TINS
 
NYAM NYAM NYAM
 
 

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[obrolan-bandar] KERACUNAN TIMAH GAS

2007-02-27 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Gilabisa keracunan. Kalo bandar masih mau buang.
   
  Akhirnya gak muat lagi gudangku.
  Tinggal istirahat seperti ular. Bentar lagi nikmati weekend panjang.
  Hari raya NYEPI.
   
  Tidur...menunggu wangsit dari suhu IAN.
  Tunggu TINS menuju Rp.24.000,-
  Tunggu PGAS menuju Rp.13.000,- 
   
  Bye.
   
   
   

 
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