[obrolan-bandar] Toronto: China's growth to fuel copper, nickel demand: Expert

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

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- China's growth to fuel copper, nickel demand: Expert
March 04, 2007
Canadian Press

An urban construction boom in China over the next decade will fuel the
global market for copper, an analyst told delegates at an international
commodities convention on Sunday.

Demand will explode as some of China's rural population shifts to the
cities, Onnu Rutten of Scotia Capital in Toronto said at a market-outlook
forum, the first major event kicking off a four-day commodities industry
love-in hosted by the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada.

Rutten predicted demand for copper in China will increase from seven
kilograms per urban resident to 12 kg over the next eight to 10 years, and
said he's not concerned about China's economy slowing until 2015.

That's a bold statement, Rutten acknowledged, given widespread fears among
some investors about the 8.8 per cent drop in the Shanghai stock index last
Tuesday, which had a global ripple effect on markets.

China is at the point where Japan was in 1960, Rutten said, adding demand
is also growing for copper in Brazil, Russia, and India. He said he doesn't
see India as a big consumer of copper over the next decade since its growth
is primarily in the service sector.

China is also leading the world in its demand for nickel, said Santo Ranieri
of Xstrata Nickel.

China will be the main driver of nickel demand, Ranieri said, noting
demand for stainless steel rises as countries become more prosperous. China
is expected to remain heavily reliant on imports.

The main problem will be trying to maintain supply to keep up with demand,
and the industry has little wiggle room to increase output, Ranieri said.

The market for commodities will remain robust, Ranieri concluded, noting
pension funds and other major investors have also boosted demand in the
sector, keeping prices generally healthy.

Supply is also plaguing silver, said Jim Steel, a commodities analyst with
HSBC Securities Inc. in New York, who said prices are at historic highs.

It will take many, many years before the market can catch up with the
rapacious demand we're seeing from the far east, Steel told a rapt crowd
packed into a large theatre at the convention centre. It's safe to say
industrial demand for silver is going to remain quite firm. . . . Even my .
. .10-year-old is aware demand in China is going up, Steel said.

Silver is also popular among older, sophisticated retail investors, Steel
said, who are buying it to diversify their portfolios.

These people are not going to be shaken out by a few dollars off (in
price), he said.

While prices in precious metals dropped in the 1990s during a period of
globalization and the opening up of the former Soviet Union, the current
tension in international politics will keep silver prices propped up, Steel
said, noting silver has been outperforming gold.

If investors choose to liquidate their precious metals, it would affect
silver more than gold, Steel said.

The 75th annual conference for the mining exploration and development
industry, which continues through Wednesday, is expected to attract more
than 15,000 industry players.

Highlights include seminars, speakers, technical programs in geoscience and
geochemistry, investor booths and an industry trade show.

Another speaker was bullish about the yellow metal, predicting prices for
gold will be more than US$700 an ounce by the end of 2007.

We're not too perturbed about what happened to the gold market last week,
Martin Murenbeeld, an analyst with the Dundee Group of Companies, said.

Murenbeeld outlined a handful of reasons why demand for gold will stay
strong, including the influence of the overvalued U.S dollar; high oil
prices, which will encourage wealthy investors in the Middle East to buy
gold; a drop in worldwide mining output, which should reduce supply; and
increased consumer spending on gold as a way to diversify investment
portfolios.


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

Eropa udah -100 lagi kalau malam dow -100 -200 besok ihsg open gap down
lagi, kalau hari ini ditutup cuman -35 dan besok dibuka -50
jadi yang mau buy ..

On 3/5/07, hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  agreed.
prediksi saya index hari ini berkisar - 25 s/d -35.
liat nanti jam 15:40
disclaimer on.

On 3/5/07, Frederick Schubert  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   hehehehehehecome on..how about 700...?
 we are NOT in any kind of financial and economic crisis.
 I think jakarta is still resilientmain index may be closed today at
 1709-1721
 disclaimer is on

 *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  :-(


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next target: 1630

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik ANDIK MUSTIKA
makasih mbah aku udah keluar hari kamis kemarin, rencana mau long term tapi 
nggak jadi he...he...he...

bandarmologi memang mantap. 

ditunggu ulasanya lagi mbah. matur nuwun


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Asal belon keburu bangkrut... hehehe...



Atau melakukan SWING JUMP dari atap, instead off swing trade...



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samsudesyang@ ... wrote:



 index tetap akan break new high...potensi itu masih tetap terbuka 

di bulan

 Maret dan April ini...

 

 

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   Sent: 05 Maret 2007 13:56

   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630

 

 

   mungkin 1570 - 1610 kalau jebol bisa ngejar 1450?

 

 

 

   On 3/5/07, Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ ... wrote:

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Next target: 1630

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik dfaj21
Wah pak Sudes, ini perlu klarifikasi barangkali  Gaya bicaranya
niru Alan Greenspan lho...  Mungkin naik tapi tidak probable  ???
Perlu klarifikasi dong  Mining lagi atau apa?


 index tetap akan break new high...potensi itu masih tetap terbuka di
bulan
 Maret dan April ini...
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Andri Wijaya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 05 Maret 2007 13:56
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630
 
 
   mungkin 1570 - 1610 kalau jebol bisa ngejar 1450?
 
 
 
   On 3/5/07, Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 :-(





RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next target: 1630

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto
semuanya ada asumsi nya:
tidak ada perang di luar negeri, tidak ada gejolak harga minyak, kondisi
dalam negeri baik ekonomi dan sos pol semuanya stabil dan cenderung
positif...
maka untuk koreksi dibawah 1600, walaupun ada potensi tapi peluangnya
kecil...
semua hanya prediksi dan hanya Tuhan yang tahu...
Gbu! ^^

  -Original Message-
  From: dfaj21 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 05 Maret 2007 15:37
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next target: 1630


  Wah pak Sudes, ini perlu klarifikasi barangkali Gaya bicaranya
  niru Alan Greenspan lho... Mungkin naik tapi tidak probable ???
  Perlu klarifikasi dong Mining lagi atau apa?

   index tetap akan break new high...potensi itu masih tetap terbuka di
  bulan
   Maret dan April ini...
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andri Wijaya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 05 Maret 2007 13:56
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630
  
  
   mungkin 1570 - 1610 kalau jebol bisa ngejar 1450?
  
  
  
   On 3/5/07, Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   :-(
  



  


[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Siapa takut?

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

Date: Mar 5, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: Siapa takut?
To:

  http://www.bloomberg.com/



Putnam, Citigroup, UBS Unshaken by Global Rout, Say Buy Stocks

By Michael Tsang and Daniel Hauck

March 5 (Bloomberg) -- The biggest money managers and strategists on Wall
Street are standing their ground.

They say the four-year bull market in U.S. stocks will persist even after
the Standard  Poor's 500 Index plunged the most since January 2003 last
week on concern a slowing economy will hurt corporate profits.

Putnam Investments, which oversees one of the best- performing U.S. equity
funds, and BlackRock Inc., the second- largest publicly traded U.S. money
manager, say stocks are cheap. Citigroup Inc. and UBS AG are telling
investors to add to their U.S. holdings. All 15 strategists tracked by
Bloomberg were sticking with their forecasts as of March 2. The SP 500 lost
1.1 percent that day, bringing its weekly decline to 4.4 percent.

``We're more favorably disposed to the U.S. market than we were at the end
of last year,'' said Kevin Cronin, who oversees $192 billion as head of
investments at Boston-based Putnam. The selloff has been a ``bit
overblown.''

The strategists surveyed by Bloomberg predict, on average, a 12 percent
increase for the SP 500 within a year.

Following last week's decline, members in the index trade at an average 15
times forecast earnings, 45 percent less than the monthly average of
27.3times over the past 10 years.

U.S. technology stocks, consumer-related companies and homebuilders have
become ``more attractive,'' Cronin said, and he is looking to add to his
firm's positions. The $4.11 billion Putnam Investors Fund has outperformed
92 percent of its rivals during the past five years, according to data from
Bloomberg.

Private Equity

Private-equity investors, who have an estimated $1.6 trillion to spend this
year, may also help stocks to rebound from losses, BlackRock's Robert Doll
and David Bianco at UBS said.

London-based Dresdner Kleinwort, the top-ranked global equity strategy team
in Thomson Extel's surveys the past three years, doesn't share Wall Street's
optimism. The investment- banking arm of Dresdner Bank AG said last week
that investors should cut stock holdings and buy government bonds because
the retreat is not over.

The worldwide selloff has already wiped out more than $800 billion from the
U.S. stock market since the rout started on Feb. 27. Figures last week
showed U.S. new-home sales fell in January by the most in 13 years, while
the economy expanded less than initially estimated in the fourth quarter of
2006. Mortgage defaults are climbing by the most since 2000.

Analysts have cut first-quarter earnings projections by half since the start
of 2007, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. More U.S. companies fell
short of profit estimates last quarter than at any other time this decade.

Greenspan's Recession

Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve, weighed in last week
by saying profit margins at U.S. companies are peaking and the growth cycle
is in a mature phase. He also said a recession in the U.S., while unlikely,
is possible.

Robert Doll, who manages $1.1 trillion as chief investment officer of global
equities at BlackRock in New York, said he expects global economic growth to
remain strong enough this year to support a 12 percent rally in the SP 500
to a record 1549.

``This isn't going to lead to a major bear market,'' said Doll. ``Out of
this will come some better buying opportunities.'' Investors should shift
out of riskier areas such as emerging markets and ``slowly add'' to holdings
of the biggest energy and technology companies, he said.

Doll cited Microsoft Corp., the world's largest software maker,
International Business Machines Corp., the biggest computer-services
company, and Cisco Systems Inc., the biggest maker of Internet routing gear.


The $3.81 billion BlackRock Large Cap Core Fund has outperformed 95 percent
of its peers during the past five years.

Global Stampede

The past week's rout started in China. Mainland stocks, which have more than
doubled in the past 12 months, swooned after the government set up a task
force to clamp down on illegal share offerings and investments with borrowed
money.

Sparked by a 9.2 percent plunge in the Shanghai and Shenzhen 300 Index on
Feb. 27, the selloff rippled through Asia and Europe and pushed down the Dow
Jones Industrial Average as much as 546.20 points.

``The idea of separating the rest of the world from the U.S., as might have
been the case once upon a time, will be increasingly rare,'' said Michael
Steinhardt, whose hedge funds posted annual returns of more than 20 percent
for almost three decades. ``We've seen the bulk of the rise, and the bulk of
the bull market,'' according to the former managing partner of New
York-based Steinhardt Management Co.

One-Day Slump

The Dow's drop was the steepest since the first trading day after the Sept.
11 terrorist attacks. The 30-stock average 

[obrolan-bandar] The same OLD 'good' Fellow....Re: Kemaren

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Jadi tindakan PB sering 'TIDAK RATIONIL' untuk MENGECOH para
 trader yang RATIONIL (seperti kemarin).
 
 But THE GAME IS NOT OVER YET, the end of game is stil UNCLEAR ?.
 
 Will the current game be similar to :
 - 1. 16 May 2006 game or
 - 2. 12 Jan 2007 game
 

The GAME IS ALREADY CLEAR, IT IS SIMILAR TO 16 May 2006 GAME...

ARSITEK BURSA piaran siBOZZ masih SAMA, She/he is same OLD 'GOOD' 
FELLOW 

Bravo buat anda, you are SUPERB MARKET STRATEGIST 





[obrolan-bandar] A few good day..

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsxid
Siapa bilang hari ini jeblok.. justru ini hari bagus buat ngumpulin 
barang. Kita lihat posisi akhir buy-sell hari ini. Bandar justru 
ngumpulin barang. Cerita besok? Hehe.. kita lihat saja efek dari 
keputusan BI apakah akan menurunkan lagi SBI rate atau tetap. Seperti 
Ibu menteri kita bilang, ini baru awal cerita dari perkembangan ekonomi 
Indonesia. Jadi? Ayo rame2 ke 2000 ^v^

Kok ketawa..



[obrolan-bandar] Danareksa

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Eghoenisech Ghoenatorich
Ada yang tau contact number nya Danareksa? saya coba hubungi SID yang di Depok 
selalu busy numbernya.
trims
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEREKA GAK BISA JUALAN - KALAU GAK BELANJA

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Odink
hloh.. katanya sebagian besar bandar adalah net buying (walau gak ada  
contohnya)
koq sekarang bilang lari tunggang langgang?!?


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 Ternyata para bandar lari tunggang langgang juga.
   Takut sama index regional yg merah.


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Danareksa

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Fifi Purwohardono
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEREKA GAK BISA JUALAN - KALAU GAK BELANJA

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
ini bisa sebagai PEMBELAJARAN bagi lalat2 muda-meminjam istilah mbah-udah 
ngeh belom rekan2 ?? liat besok deh pasti berita yang SEREM2 keluar 
semua/termasuk IKLAN di tv maupun koran-pelajaran dari om OENTOENG-...so? 

happy resting n sleep well

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hloh.. katanya sebagian besar bandar adalah net buying (walau gak ada  
contohnya)
koq sekarang bilang lari tunggang langgang?!?


On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:37:23 +0700, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Ternyata para bandar lari tunggang langgang juga.
   Takut sama index regional yg merah.



 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEREKA GAK BISA JUALAN - KALAU GAK BELANJA

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
ini bisa sebagai PEMBELAJARAN bagi lalat2 muda-meminjam istilah mbah-udah 
ngeh belom rekan2 ?? liat besok deh pasti berita yang SEREM2 keluar 
semua/termasuk IKLAN di tv maupun koran-pelajaran dari om OENTOENG-...so? 

happy resting n sleep well

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hloh.. katanya sebagian besar bandar adalah net buying (walau gak ada  
contohnya)
koq sekarang bilang lari tunggang langgang?!?


On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:37:23 +0700, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Ternyata para bandar lari tunggang langgang juga.
   Takut sama index regional yg merah.



 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: [Pasar_Modal] Info buku baru ttg wealth/life management: Energize Yourlife

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Hotma Sirait
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regards,

hotma sirait
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[obrolan-bandar] Fw: Everyone Makes Mistakes (Weekend Newsletter)

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Hotma Sirait
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Everyone makes mistakes, but I certainly hate it when I am the object of the 
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG akan ke 1800 lagi dalam waktu dekat

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsxid
FA:
Inflasi terkendali, suku bungan menurut mayoritas analis akan turun 
besok, posisi net buying oleh kebanyakan para bandar pada hari ini, 
retail mayoritas melepaskan posisi pada hari ini sehingga IHSG akan 
menjadi lebih ringan untuk ditarik ke atas. Kebanyakan emiten juga akan 
merilis FS pada bulan Maret 2007. Target divestasi pemerintah masih 
dalam rencana awal, sehingga indeks akan dikerek dulu ke atas 
sebelumnya.

TA:
IHSG sudah mencapai level konsolidasi 1630 pada Januari 2007 dan saat 
ini sedang mempersiapkan next uptrend move dengan minor reversal di 
1710 yang terjadi pada hari ini. (Amoy, tu 1630 wa punya reversal 
target Januari la)





[obrolan-bandar] jsx_consultant vs jsxid

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Danareksa

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik lord oho the trader
atau coba aja di SID FEUI di 78849148,78849149,78849158

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Danareksa

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik henry_sulistyo
78849158 atau 78849148

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: jsx_consultant vs jsxid

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsxid
Ada apa pak Andri..

vs? yang bener aja.. kami seangkatan kok, liat aja membership mulai 
kapan.. hehe.. yang pasti kami saling menghargai. Kali ini saya kasi 
komentar karena pendapat saya disalahartikan oleh beberapa orang di 
milis ini. Mau ikut ke 1800?



Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEREKA GAK BISA JUALAN - KALAU GAK BELANJA

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja

Hah..a ngak separah itu

Memang benar sih... 99% bukan time to buy...

Tapi kalau time to sell.. saya rasa juga bukan saat yang tepat jatuhnya
sudah terlalu banyak.,...
Kecuali anda sudah siap dengan strategy buy back yang mumpuni

Saya sih lebih suka nonton aja... sambil sesekali toel-toel jumlah kecil
kalau suatu saham sudah lewat batas murah saya.

Kalau sudah ngak ada lagi.. terpaksa... untuk menghilangkan kantuk one day
di gorengan.. entah short atau long... 10-50 lot ha.ha..

On 3/5/07, gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  ini bisa sebagai PEMBELAJARAN bagi lalat2 muda-meminjam istilah
mbah-udah ngeh belom rekan2 ?? liat besok deh pasti berita yang SEREM2
keluar semua/termasuk IKLAN di tv maupun koran-pelajaran dari om
OENTOENG-...so?

happy resting n sleep well

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

[EMAIL PROTECTED] loksado%40gmail.com] wrote:
hloh.. katanya sebagian besar bandar adalah net buying (walau gak ada
contohnya)
koq sekarang bilang lari tunggang langgang?!?

On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:37:23 +0700, Jack Cowok [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]jackcowok2%40yahoo.com

wrote:

 Ternyata para bandar lari tunggang langgang juga.
 Takut sama index regional yg merah.

Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mr FS....whr r u ?

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Udah cuci gudang duluan ...

On 3/5/07, Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Any comment on this bloody market ?
Where to be END ?

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index engineering.. again?

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Kelihatannya Bozz bosan lihat index di atas 1700 ... mau dibawa jalan2 dulu
ke 1500-1250 baru enak nariknya ... perkebunan ama pertambangan akan makin
berdarah .. kebanyakan yang serakah

On 3/4/07, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Dear Pak Mardjan,

Mestinya kita nggak usah bingung apalagi pake mules, mencret segala
dlm mengikuti bursa sekarang ini.
Coba kita perhatikan level MAIN index kita masih di 1700-an. Artinya
ini adalah level yg cukup tinggi dibandingkan kalau 1600 bahkan 1500.
PADAHAL harga2 BC SAAT INI adalah harga dimana main index di level
1600 KE BAWAH...!?
So...kalau BOZZ berniat mengangkat SEMUA BC dg cara setengah2 atau
OVERALL (pake teknik total football ala Embah) begitu mudahnya index
kita MENJEBOL ALL TIME HIGHEST-nya...
Pertanyaannya; Apakah harus dlm waktu dekat ini?
Kalau memang IYA, apakah harus menyentuh level 2000 sekalian?

DAHULU saya pernah mengulas ttg Januari Ngepek2 dimana kondisi
saat itu hampir PERSIS dg saat ini. Dan setelah itu yg terjadi
adalah index benar2 BREAK all time highestnya...
Tapi PROSES-nya utk saat ini MESTINYA akan dirubah oleh BOZZ...
Sekali lagi peluang (strategi) tidak akan datang utk kedua kalinya.
Bener ya Mbah?

Bagaimanapun dg KOMBINASI sedemikian rupa BOZZ mampu membuat
(menurunkan) harga2 BC menjadi LEBIH MENARIK dg MEMPERTAHANKAN
(maintain) index.
Tekniknya bernama TEKNIK JUNGKAT-JUNGKIT…
Mirip formasi X-nya Embah tapi ini berjalan secara SEKTORAL dg
variasinya.
Ini yg bapak maksudkan dengan INDEX ENGINEERING secara luas kayaknya.

Kondisi begini para analis menyarankan SELECTIVE BUYING...
Satu hal yg sdh terjadi, SIAPA SAJA yg masih suka bermain BC
(terutama BANKING) sejak awal tahun (1Q07) sudah SEKARAT akibat
mules, mencret dst...ya nggak?
Kecuali para swing trader yg mencari kesempatan dalam kesempitan...

Sebenarnya LORONG2 KEGELAPAN itu sudah DIPROGRAM sedemikian rupa
oleh BOZZ. Dan sudah diprediksi oleh Suhu IAN (prediksi yg
terakhir)...
Bicara target harga adalah VALID utk semua saham…TAPI bicara WAKTU
masih BOZZ yg menentukan.
Simple khan...ya nggak BOZZ?
Inilah yg saya namakan DUNIA TERUS BERPUTAR...

Di dunia persilatan sekarang sedang berkembang istilah ADA GULA ADA
SEMUT.
Dimana ada gula disanalah para gajah bergerombol bukan semut lagi yg
mengerubungi...
Tapi hampir SETIAP HARI mereka berpindah-pindah...
Ini sangat menyulitkan para DAILY (short term) trader…
Kayak tebak manggis kata P. Gitto S.
Maksudnya kita kalau mau one day trade tingkat spekulasi-nya cukup
tinggi...
Apalagi yg suka ikut BREAK RESISTANCE...
Beberapa yg saya perhatikan suka dikibulin…
Maklum Gajah2 di saham tersebut memang Super TA...
Kalau toh memang berlanjut, pergerakannya mulai SLOW MOTION...
Ada satu yg terus ngejozz yaitu TINS tapi ketika komoditas turun,
jadinya hajatan SUNATAN MASSAL...

Dalam kondisi begini utk kesekian kalinya saya menyarankan CERMATI
grafik portfolio kita, apakah masih kelihatan UP TREND? Apapun
sahamnya...
Atau mulai berubah? Kalau iya, strategi harus berubah mengikuti
TREND...
Bicara para gajah mereka byk yg KURANG PEDULI mau kemana main index
akan berjalan?
Yang penting mereka masih bisa MAKING MONEY EVERY DAY...
Tantangan berikutnya, kalau bisa saham yg mereka mainkan masih UP
terusss.

Yang jelas saya masih sering bermain di saham sekelas MERCY...
Kalau Mr. Jack bilang ada saham mau jadi BMW...
Harusnya saya tahu, wong setiap hari tongkrongan saya sudah BMW...
Hehehe...
Pastinya saya belon pernah nongkrongin VOLVO apalagi ROLL ROYCE...
Bisa mules perut saya naik begituan, nggak kuat dikatain orang kayak
sudah jadi BOZZ.
Banyak yg nggak percaya!
Hahaha...

Note: Banyak ketawa bisa menyebabkan perut mules tapi tidak diiringi
mencret, ngomong2 akhir2 ini kok banyak yg ngomongin masalah PERUT
yah?

Regards,

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Marjan Syah
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bingung index mau kemana? Dulu rasanya pernah dibahas mengenai
index
 engineering dimana angka indeks tidak menggambarkan keadaan pasar
 sebenarnya. Biasanya yang in play adalah emiten berkapitalisasi
besar yang
 kenaikan minor terhadap emiten tersebut menyebabkan perubahan yang
 signifikan pada indeks. Mungkinkah hal tersebut terulang lagi?
Saya kira
 saya kurang berkompetensi untuk menjelaskannya. Mungkin ada yang
akan
 memberi penjelasan mengenai hal ini dan keadaan IHSG saat ini?
Matur nuwun
 para begawan trading BEJ dengan hormat dipersilahkan..






Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Wah ...mbah mesti hati2 nih .. teman2ku banyak yang belanja masukin lagi
duit, even ada yang sekali hit 25M karena dikira sudah murah ... besok merah
membara lagi ... 1550 terus ke 1250 ... amannya ambil di mana yah .. 1250
aja ah biar kalau turun lagi hold aja atau sekalian tungguin 700 seperti
pernyataan bung FS

On 3/5/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...

Yang 2 hari yang LALU aja deh:
   Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
   TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
   SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
   karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...

IHSG -42

Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi guyuran
si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka ihsg susah
naek lagi

Coba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,
kalo pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE deh

Coba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA ENGGA ?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Halim Mintareja
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jadi teringat tulisan mbak 2 tahun lalu..

 Saat ini JANGAN BUY... atau kalau kelebihan duit tetap pingin
beli JANGAN
 BID

 Saat ini di BEJ banyak bandar nyangkut... jangan beri kesempatan
mereka
 keluar di harga tinggi.

 Saya rasa mbah masih ingat tulisan sejenis ini 2 tahun lalu..

 tul ngak mbah


 On 3/5/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  10:53
 
  IHSG -36
 
  yang OPTIMIS lagi SAKIT PERUT
 
  --- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA
   KEATAS punya 2 implikasi:
  
   1. Implikasi BAIK:
   Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata
   trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi
   lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi
   hilang kena Margin Call.
   2. Implikasi BRUK:
   Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi
   OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam
   maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang.
  
   Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK
   meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan
   mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang
   bego... s
  
   Note:
   - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN
karena
   kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound
   dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume.
  
   Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
   TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
   SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
   karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...
  
   Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja,
   INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu
   ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini
semoga
  
  
   --- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Aria Bela Nusa
   aria.belanusa@ wrote:
   
Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 -
krn
   harga
cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2
loncat
  ke
bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2
(drastis)
   memang
relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo
ditambahi
  dg
   emosi
lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya
  juga
'usaha').
   
:) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya
   business
as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya
   ternyata
tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula
setelah
berjalannya waktu
   
Regards,
   
Aria
   
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Jack Cowok
Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45
To: saham@yahoogroups.com saham%40yahoogroups.comsaham%40yahoogroup
s.com
Cc: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?
   
Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang
dalam
jumlah besar.
Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli
  lagi
dibawah.
   
Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga
yg
   dibuang
si PERUSUH.
Selalu dan selalu.
   
Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita
   terlambat
selangkah.
Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.
   
 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: jsx_consultant vs jsxid

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

maksud saya view-nya khan saling bertentangan satu naik satu turun, kalau
saya untuk sementara ini ikut embah dulu ke selatan

On 3/5/07, jsxid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Ada apa pak Andri..

vs? yang bener aja.. kami seangkatan kok, liat aja membership mulai
kapan.. hehe.. yang pasti kami saling menghargai. Kali ini saya kasi
komentar karena pendapat saya disalahartikan oleh beberapa orang di
milis ini. Mau ikut ke 1800?

 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: MEREKA GAK BISA JUALAN - KALAU GAK BELANJA

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik gittokurniasanto
salam pak halim,
saya tidak mengatakan time to SELL/BUY ?hari ini saya tidak ada
transaksi sama sekali-buy/sell- gimana mau sell, wong gudang ku
KOSONG...bahkan saya tidak tahu SAMA SEKALI apa yang terjadi besok...
apakah ijo-MERAH-merah?? atau bagaimana bentuknya, saya belom
tahu...TAKUT !! maklum saya termasuk kategori LALAT MUDA LOEGOE...
bahkan justru  saya pengen minta saran dari pak halim bagaimana
baiknya besok^^, saham2 apa aja pak besok yang bisa di TOAL-TOEL?? eh
koq kita si yang jadi NGOBROL...pak JC ??? MAKAN TERUSSS pak besok??
waaah hari ini aja kayaknya bapak keliatan tambah GEMUK lho...saya
pangling liatnya-kalo bener makan terus??- hati2 pak kegemukan bisa
banyak PENYAKITNYA...hipertensi, kolesterol, asam urat, larinya bisa
JANTUNG berdetak keras bahkan KANKER yang efek lanjutannya kompor
KARATAN, KEMALINGAN mersi, anak PUTUS SEKOLAH, kerjaan tidak beres,
kecanduan BODREX, PANADOL, ASPIRIN, dkk... kalo mbah mah paling
mencret2 yaaa mbah.hehehehe...just 4 JOKE yup...biar ga serius2
amat(,).


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hah..a ngak separah itu
 
 Memang benar sih... 99% bukan time to buy...
 
 Tapi kalau time to sell.. saya rasa juga bukan saat yang tepat
jatuhnya
 sudah terlalu banyak.,...
 Kecuali anda sudah siap dengan strategy buy back yang mumpuni
 
 Saya sih lebih suka nonton aja... sambil sesekali toel-toel jumlah
kecil
 kalau suatu saham sudah lewat batas murah saya.
 
 Kalau sudah ngak ada lagi.. terpaksa... untuk menghilangkan kantuk
one day
 di gorengan.. entah short atau long... 10-50 lot ha.ha..
 
 On 3/5/07, gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
ini bisa sebagai PEMBELAJARAN bagi lalat2 muda-meminjam istilah
  mbah-udah ngeh belom rekan2 ?? liat besok deh pasti berita
yang SEREM2
  keluar semua/termasuk IKLAN di tv maupun koran-pelajaran dari om
  OENTOENG-...so?
 
  happy resting n sleep well
 
  salam hangat,
  gitto kurniasanto
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] loksado%40gmail.com] wrote:
  hloh.. katanya sebagian besar bandar adalah net buying (walau gak ada
  contohnya)
  koq sekarang bilang lari tunggang langgang?!?
 
  On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:37:23 +0700, Jack Cowok
[EMAIL PROTECTED]jackcowok2%40yahoo.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Ternyata para bandar lari tunggang langgang juga.
   Takut sama index regional yg merah.
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
  
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE? to mBah

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik boyz

when most people have strong perception that market downtrending,
the opposite movement will occur.

right, mBah ?

salam,


jsx_consultant wrote:

Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...

Yang 2 hari yang LALU aja deh:

Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...


IHSG -42

Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi guyuran
si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka ihsg susah
naek lagi

Coba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,
kalo pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE deh

Coba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA ENGGA ?


Re: [obrolan-bandar] SULI bambu....

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Henry
SULI itu typical turnaround company. But barang semua ada di si BD, jadi yg bid 
offer juga semua dia.

SETAN BEJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ada yang punya info tentang 
SULI ???
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE? to mBah

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Belum sempat jualan yah

On 3/5/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  when most people have strong perception that market downtrending,
the opposite movement will occur.

right, mBah ?

salam,


jsx_consultant wrote:

Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...

Yang 2 hari yang LALU aja deh:

 Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...


IHSG -42

Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi guyuran
si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka ihsg susah
naek lagi

Coba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,
kalo pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE deh

Coba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA ENGGA ?





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jual CD/DVD/Ebook Techinal Analisis/Stock/Forex/Futures/Options

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
halahhh

Di jual beli saham tidak ada hukum moral. Yg paling pintar dan gesit
lah  pemenangnya..

sudah lah mas relakan saja...

thx



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CNKO dimainin sama orang tak bermoral yang memberi keuntungan kepada
para Robin Hood





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Danareksa

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
Coba juga tanyakan ke 108.



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE? to mBah

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Rei
Ngapain jual pak kalo memang maunya keep for long time. Nggak semua orang mau 
ikut jetcoaster naik turun lho. Hehe...

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Belum sempat jualan yah

  On 3/5/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when most people have 
strong perception that market downtrending,
the opposite movement will occur.

right, mBah ?

salam,


jsx_consultant wrote:   
Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...Yang 2 hari yang 
LALU aja deh:  
  
Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK  TERJADI karena 
jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI  SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT 
TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN  karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ... 
 

  IHSG -42Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi 
guyuran  si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka ihsg susah  naek 
lagiCoba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,  kalo 
pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE dehCoba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA 
ENGGA ?  
  
  






  

 

 
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[obrolan-bandar] DJ bumps up higher at early trading..

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsxid
DJIA get signal from europe bourse that rebounds from its low and jumps 
up at early trading. May it also give signal to JSX tomorrow? Analyst  
strategist according to Bloomberg are in the perception that the recent 
selloff provide an opportunity for buying stocks..

Just monitor US market tonight..

^v^



[obrolan-bandar] Jack and helmi still in my radar..

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsxid
What's up Bro, tel me the result tomorrow ya, whether I could buy 
another or just shut up my mouth and listen to the market..

Twink twink..



[obrolan-bandar] HK cuts salary, property and wine taxes in their popularity budget

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsxid
More spending expected.. Another signal huh?

^v^



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Jam 21:23 WIB.. 7 menit sebelum DOW Buka.. Tanda Siuman ??

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Prince APP

dow jones maen roller-coaster nech




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1,008,236,000Nasdaq Volume http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5ETV.O675,504,000

On 3/5/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Sepertinya ada tanda-tanda siuman..

Minus bursa eropa terus berkurang.

Nickel recover from biggest dayly lost in a month

USDCHF hammer
USDJPY stalled di 155.10 setelah menyentuh dayly low di sekitar 115.10

Moga-moga benar..
Kalau salah besok libur lagi.ha..ha...

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJ bumps up higher at early trading..

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Prince APP

On 3/5/07, jsxid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  DJIA get signal from europe bourse that rebounds from its low and jumps
up at early trading. May it also give signal to JSX tomorrow? Analyst 
strategist according to Bloomberg are in the perception that the recent
selloff provide an opportunity for buying stocks..

Just monitor US market tonight..

^v^

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik franky w
saya pake indosat broadband 3G juga oke...kecepatan pernah sampe 700Kbps


rgds,
franky


  - Original Message - 
  From: Nur Harjanto 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh



  Aku pake datacardnya xlpor yang 1 jtan, ZTE MF320, katanya support UMTS 
hingga 384 kbps. Murah sih tagihan bulan pertama Rp. 108.900 (udah PPn)
  Untuk speednya aku belum pernah ukur, tapi aku pernah donlod upgrade antivir 
(11 MB) dengan DAP 7.0 bisa dapet 70 kbps dijaringan 3G, sedang dijaringan 2G 
(GPRS) bisa dapet 30 kbps.

- Original Message - 
From: Ari 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh


Klo gt buat yg lg berlabuh. 
Mo bertanya sesat diijalan nich. Ada yg pernah coba paket Internet 3G mega 
data xplor ga?. Kayaknya Lebih murah drpd fren. 99rb/250 mb/bln. (ktnya lg 
promosi). Bs lebih Cepet ga? klo lambat percuma.
Soalnya sy perlu cadangan, klo frennya ngadat. Tx

-Original Message-
From: helmi setiawan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/5/07 12:10:56 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

Mbah, Lalat muda kalo gak belanja sehari aja udah gatell.. 
Perasaan gimana gitu, kalo gak nge klik order.

bisa nggak minta tolong telpon Om Soros biar Index jangan di acak2 terus..

Thx



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...
 
 Yang 2 hari yang LALU aja deh:
Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...
 
 IHSG -42
 
 Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi guyuran
 si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka ihsg susah
 naek lagi
 
 Coba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,
 kalo pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE deh
 
 Coba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA ENGGA ?
 
 
 






   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto
kalo saya pingin tanya neh...isat n xplor 3G nya dah nyampe mana aja...ane 
sendiri tuk mobile pake STARONE 150rb/bln...kecepatan??---yaa begitu 
deh,..mirip dial up telkomnet instan..CIPUTAT-DEPOK-KBYRN 3G xl ama isat dah 
manteng belom om.. kalo cuepet si boljug tuk SPARING PARTNER
makasih bgt yak kalo dijawab...

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
saya pake indosat broadband 3G juga oke...kecepatan pernah sampe 700Kbps


rgds,
franky


  - Original Message - 
  From: Nur Harjanto 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh



  Aku pake datacardnya xlpor yang 1 jtan, ZTE MF320, katanya support UMTS 
hingga 384 kbps. Murah sih tagihan bulan pertama Rp. 108.900 (udah PPn)
  Untuk speednya aku belum pernah ukur, tapi aku pernah donlod upgrade antivir 
(11 MB) dengan DAP 7.0 bisa dapet 70 kbps dijaringan 3G, sedang dijaringan 2G 
(GPRS) bisa dapet 30 kbps.

- Original Message - 
From: Ari 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh


Klo gt buat yg lg berlabuh. 
Mo bertanya sesat diijalan nich. Ada yg pernah coba paket Internet 3G mega 
data xplor ga?. Kayaknya Lebih murah drpd fren. 99rb/250 mb/bln. (ktnya lg 
promosi). Bs lebih Cepet ga? klo lambat percuma.
Soalnya sy perlu cadangan, klo frennya ngadat. Tx

-Original Message-
From: helmi setiawan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/5/07 12:10:56 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

Mbah, Lalat muda kalo gak belanja sehari aja udah gatell.. 
Perasaan gimana gitu, kalo gak nge klik order.

bisa nggak minta tolong telpon Om Soros biar Index jangan di acak2 terus..

Thx



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...
 
 Yang 2 hari yang LALU aja deh:
Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...
 
 IHSG -42
 
 Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi guyuran
 si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka ihsg susah
 naek lagi
 
 Coba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,
 kalo pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE deh
 
 Coba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA ENGGA ?
 
 
 






   




[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jam 21:23 WIB.. 7 menit sebelum DOW Buka.. Tanda Siuman ??

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja

Gagal lagi...

JPY balik lagi 115.50..
nickel kembali terkapar..
dow tutup dekat dayly low..

ditambah lagi TLK dan IIT terkapar..

Hari ini kalau tidak ada berita bagus dari nikkei.. alamat another holiday


On 3/5/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sepertinya ada tanda-tanda siuman..

Minus bursa eropa terus berkurang.

Nickel recover from biggest dayly lost in a month

USDCHF hammer
USDJPY stalled di 155.10 setelah menyentuh dayly low di sekitar 115.10

Moga-moga benar..
Kalau salah besok libur lagi.ha..ha...



Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG akan ke 1800 lagi dalam waktu dekat

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Asep Buhori
makin mantap aja nih milis kita ada mbah, ada om oent,
ada pak eka, sekarang ada pak de jsxid...




--- jsxid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FA:
 Inflasi terkendali, suku bungan menurut mayoritas
 analis akan turun 
 besok, posisi net buying oleh kebanyakan para bandar
 pada hari ini, 
 retail mayoritas melepaskan posisi pada hari ini
 sehingga IHSG akan 
 menjadi lebih ringan untuk ditarik ke atas.
 Kebanyakan emiten juga akan 
 merilis FS pada bulan Maret 2007. Target divestasi
 pemerintah masih 
 dalam rencana awal, sehingga indeks akan dikerek
 dulu ke atas 
 sebelumnya.
 
 TA:
 IHSG sudah mencapai level konsolidasi 1630 pada
 Januari 2007 dan saat 
 ini sedang mempersiapkan next uptrend move dengan
 minor reversal di 
 1710 yang terjadi pada hari ini. (Amoy, tu 1630 wa
 punya reversal 
 target Januari la)
 
 
 
 



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mr FS....whr r u ?

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
it (recent correction) is still within what we call as a fair one(for long 
term investors), but kinda hell for my fellow short term investorshanging 
there
  return to 1,800..? why not  

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Udah cuci gudang duluan ...

  On 3/5/07, Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Any 
comment on this bloody market ?
  Where to be END ?

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG akan ke 1800 lagi dalam waktu dekat

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
tapi boss

Untuk gerakan index seperti ini, minimal 3 hari candlestick merah,
Untuk besok terlalu melenceng dari analisa kalo candlestik hijau atau
harga recover

Kelihatannya saya bakal jagokan, harga turun dengan gap jauh dan
menembus level terendah index besok.

Sebaiknya besok cuma lihat2 aja jangan beli2 dulu. mending kita
setujui permainan BOZZ besar, jangan menentang arus untuk beberapa
hari ini.

Thx



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FA:
 Inflasi terkendali, suku bungan menurut mayoritas analis akan turun 
 besok, posisi net buying oleh kebanyakan para bandar pada hari ini, 
 retail mayoritas melepaskan posisi pada hari ini sehingga IHSG akan 
 menjadi lebih ringan untuk ditarik ke atas. Kebanyakan emiten juga akan 
 merilis FS pada bulan Maret 2007. Target divestasi pemerintah masih 
 dalam rencana awal, sehingga indeks akan dikerek dulu ke atas 
 sebelumnya.
 
 TA:
 IHSG sudah mencapai level konsolidasi 1630 pada Januari 2007 dan saat 
 ini sedang mempersiapkan next uptrend move dengan minor reversal di 
 1710 yang terjadi pada hari ini. (Amoy, tu 1630 wa punya reversal 
 target Januari la)





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jack and helmi still in my radar..

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
Waduh

Maaf pak boss jangan pake radar-radaran, jadi ngeri nih...

Saya cuma seneng meng analisa dan diskusikan hasilnya untuk nambah
investasi otak saya pribadi khususnya, dan kemajuan anggota milis
umumnya.

Kalo misal postingnya gak boleh saya diskusikan, yo wis saya  minta
maaf.
Kalo saya salah, beritahukan saja, tar saya perbaiki ok.

salam kenal.

Btw: nice temp u got there, be calm bud, by anger no problem can be
solve  [:)] .


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What's up Bro, tel me the result tomorrow ya, whether I could buy
 another or just shut up my mouth and listen to the market..

 Twink twink..




Re: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Ari
Wah tks bgt friends,

infonya bnyk bgt. thn lalu menurut ref toko PDA. juara murah\kecepatan internet 
mobile jakarta masi dipegang fren.
Tp th ini kayaknya dah overload. Jd perlu alternatif lain tuk gantian akses

Mhn koreksi klo salah.

Iya kecepatan tgt modem, signal, lokasi, prosesor n lain2nya juga. Setau sy 
xplor dah pake serat optic, enaknya ta coba dulu ya pake yg pra bayarnya.



Original Message-
From: gitto kurniasanto[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/5/07 11:34:43 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh
  kalo saya pingin tanya neh...isat n xplor 3G nya dah nyampe mana 
aja...ane sendiri tuk mobile pake STARONE 150rb/bln...kecepatan??---yaa begitu 
deh,..mirip dial up telkomnet instan..CIPUTAT-DEPOK-KBYRN 3G xl ama isat dah 
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makasih bgt yak kalo dijawab...

salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto

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saya pake indosat broadband 3G juga oke...kecepatan pernah sampe 700Kbps


rgds,
franky


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  Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh



  Aku pake datacardnya xlpor yang 1 jtan, ZTE MF320, katanya support UMTS 
hingga 384 kbps. Murah sih tagihan bulan pertama Rp. 108.900 (udah PPn)
  Untuk speednya aku belum pernah ukur, tapi aku pernah donlod upgrade 
antivir (11 MB) dengan DAP 7.0 bisa dapet 70 kbps dijaringan 3G, sedang 
dijaringan 2G (GPRS) bisa dapet 30 kbps.

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From: Ari 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] lg berlabuh


Klo gt buat yg lg berlabuh. 
Mo bertanya sesat diijalan nich. Ada yg pernah coba paket Internet 3G 
mega data xplor ga?. Kayaknya Lebih murah drpd fren. 99rb/250 mb/bln. (ktnya lg 
promosi). Bs lebih Cepet ga? klo lambat percuma.
Soalnya sy perlu cadangan, klo frennya ngadat. Tx

-Original Message-
From: helmi setiawan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/5/07 12:10:56 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

Mbah, Lalat muda kalo gak belanja sehari aja udah gatell.. 
Perasaan gimana gitu, kalo gak nge klik order.

bisa nggak minta tolong telpon Om Soros biar Index jangan di acak2 
terus..

Thx



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...
 
 Yang 2 hari yang LALU aja deh:
Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...
 
 IHSG -42
 
 Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi guyuran
 si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka ihsg susah
 naek lagi
 
 Coba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,
 kalo pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE deh
 
 Coba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA ENGGA ?
 
 
 






   






[obrolan-bandar] Data Lengkap Metastock

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Barat
Dear Guys,

Dimana ya bisa download data lengkap (OHLC and volume) untuk STI, HSI, 
NIKKEI, Nasdaq and DJIA.

As usually thanks b4.

Cheers, 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mr FS....whr r u ?

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik James Arifin

yuppy ... but we are short term ... have no much bucket to dive to deep

On 3/6/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   it (recent correction) is still within what we call as a fair
one(for long term investors), but kinda hell for my fellow short term
investorshanging there
return to 1,800..? why not

*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Udah cuci gudang duluan ...

On 3/5/07, Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Any comment on this bloody market ?
 Where to be END ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE? to mBah

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Rei
Kira2 begitu pak Steve, tapi jangan kesiangan bangunnya 
  Banyak investor yang punya posisi di market sampai bertahun-tahun (berarti 
mengikuti naik turunnya market tanpa mempedulikan nilai portfolionya) dan 
tetap mendapatkan gain yang fantastis. Itulah kira2 strategi saya, habis saya 
tidak sepintar rekan2 di sini yang dapat membaca arah gerakan pasar dgn cepat 
dgn bermacam-macam tool  grafik.
   
  Salam,
  Rei 

Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Setuju!!! minjam istilah Gus Pur dari KERAJAAN mimpi Kaya gitu 
aja kok repot?
Selama gak marjin ngapain pusing... betul gak pak Rei? Tinggal tidur aja. 
Ntaran juga pasti balik lagi, nyantai aja.


Rei wrote:   Ngapain jual pak kalo memang maunya keep for long time. Nggak 
semua orang mau ikut jetcoaster naik turun lho. Hehe...

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Belum sempat jualan yah

  On 3/5/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when most people have 
strong perception that market downtrending,
the opposite movement will occur.

right, mBah ?

salam,


jsx_consultant wrote:   
Embah udah tambah PIKUN buat nginget yang 2 thn yg lalu...Yang 2 hari yang 
LALU aja deh:  
  
Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK  TERJADI karena 
jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI  SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT 
TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN  karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ... 
 

  IHSG -42Mudah mudahan PARA TRADER LALAT MUDA tidak mengakumulasi 
guyuran  si BOZZ, karena jika BARANG YG DIBAGI BANYAK, maka   ihsg susah  naek 
lagiCoba dicheck ama teman disamping anda, apa banyak BELANJA ?,  kalo 
pada belanja BAKAL MEMBLE dehCoba laporin kemilis, BANYAK YG BELANJA 
ENGGA ?  










  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
9:08 WIB

Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

 





RE: [obrolan-bandar] Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Gidion Simamora
Pertanda bagus dong. JSX juga ASIA kan? 

 

Thanks  rgds,

Gidion Simamora

 

-Original Message-
From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:09 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

 

9:08 WIB

Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
9:39

IHSG +22 

Anak baik, akur ama saudara, ENGGA MBALELO...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9:08 WIB
 
 Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%





[obrolan-bandar] Ada yg belum kenyang belanja dg special discount dicount

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Asep Buhori
tampaknya ada bozz yg blm kenyang belanja dg trf
discount tapi ada juga bozz2 yang udah gak sabar
pengen naikin ini index mungkin krn nyangkut atau
alasan lainnya...
menarik sekali kita lihat aja yukk
gmn mbah?
any comments?



rgds
AB



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pengaruh penghapusan SBI dgn Kinerja Perbankan 2007 makin bagus atau sebaliknya.

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik HS

SBI tdk mungkin dihapuskan sepenuhnya sekaligus, sebab
BI masih memerlukan instrumen utk menyerap likuiditas.
Yg jadi masalah duit SBI itu cuma bisa bengong aja di
kas BI krn menurut UU BI, BI tidak diperbolehkan
menyalurkan dana dalam bentuk apapun ke sektor rill
(trauma BLBI). Harusnya BI dpat diberikan excuse utk
menyalurkan kredit program tertentu, spt Bank Sentral
Malaysia mendirikan bank Pertanian khusus utk
menyalurkan kredit mikro dan kecil ke sektor pertanian
yang dapat menciptakan lapangan kerja sec signifikan,
thus mengurangi pengangguran dan kemiskinan
dikantong-kantongnya.

Utk menyerap likuiditas sdg diupayakan koordinasi BI
dgn Pem utk memanfaatkan SUN dan SPN. Namun jumlah
keduanya baru disetujui sekitar 100 T, terlalu kecil
dibanding penyerapan SBI yg per Feb 2007 mencapai 235T
dan diprediksi mencapai 300T akhir 2007.

Permasalahannya bukan pada SBI, tetapi mengapa
perbankan tidak mau menyalurkan dananya ke kredit?
Karena resiko kredit masih tinggi dengan permasalahan
klasik sektor rill. Selain itu paket kebijakan
investasi juga tdk kunjung selesai dan applied.

Dengan turunnya BI rate sec perlahan tapi pasti,
menunjukkan ada ruang bagi perbankan untuk
meningkatkan penyaluran kreditnya dan LDRnya sehingga
dapat meningkatkan keuntungan di 2007 (bila bisa
mengendalikan NPL).





--- Darma Nasution [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sebagai bahan renungan bagi kita. kira2 sektor
 perbankan di tahun babi ini
 menjadi lebih bagus atau sebalik. apakah kinerja
 perbankan tahun 2006 yg
 lalu
 karena menyalurkan kredit ke sektor riil atau karena
 belas kasihan BI :)
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Odink
inside bar cenderung black.. some people never change
dow jg sempat ijo walau akhirnya minus.. berarti gak mbalelo tuh.. heheee

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:42:38 +0700, jsx_consultant  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9:39

 IHSG +22

 Anak baik, akur ama saudara, ENGGA MBALELO...



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Ada yg belum kenyang belanja dg special discount dicount

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Gidion Simamora
Yg discount plus-plus yg mana aja nih bos.

 

-Original Message-
From: Asep Buhori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:10 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Ada yg belum kenyang belanja dg special discount
dicount

 

tampaknya ada bozz yg blm kenyang belanja dg trf
discount tapi ada juga bozz2 yang udah gak sabar
pengen naikin ini index mungkin krn nyangkut atau
alasan lainnya...
menarik sekali kita lihat aja yukk
gmn mbah?
any comments?

rgds
AB

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik bangsur
Om Jack nyangkut di harga tinggi ya.? sama dunk cuma kapan neh 
balik lagi 12000, he.he..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,
   dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,
   maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi

   Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase keuntungan.

   So New Target - PGAS jadi ROLL ROYCE.
 
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Gidion Simamora
Bandar coba ngangkat man. tapi kayaknya gak kuat dan akan turun lagi.

 

-Original Message-
From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:43 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

 

9:39

IHSG +22 

Anak baik, akur ama saudara, ENGGA MBALELO...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 9:08 WIB
 
 Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%


 



RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Khongchakim
Bisa mBah..

Lihatlah apa yang telah saya lakukan kata SUNGSILO

 

Salam,

Khong

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: 06 Maret 2007 10:58
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

 

Regional masih ON

IHSG lagi nyoba naek lagi, coba kita liat apa 
bisa BREAK 1720...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Gidion Simamora 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bandar coba ngangkat man. tapi kayaknya gak kuat dan akan turun 
lagi.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:43 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
 
 
 
 9:39
 
 IHSG +22 
 
 Anak baik, akur ama saudara, ENGGA MBALELO...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  9:08 WIB
  
  Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
 


 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Sepertinya mustahil turun ke Rp.7400 pak.
  Waktu itu turun dikarenakan PANIC SELLING
  dan yang jual banyak cuma 1 bandar BESAR
   
  Bayangkan saja waktu sebelum itu, mau beli diharga Rp.10.000
  susah setengah mati.
   
  Tunggu diatas Rp.11.000,-
   
   
  

Gidion Simamora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  PGAS mau ditunggu di harga berapa nih bos biar dapat Roll Royce? 
Apa bisa mampir lagi di 7400?
   
  -Original Message-
From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:58 AM
To: saham@yahoogroups.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target
   
  Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,

dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,

maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi

 

Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase keuntungan.

 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Gidion Simamora
Ketangguhan para jagoan lokal sedang diuji.

 

-Original Message-
From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:58 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

 

Regional masih ON

IHSG lagi nyoba naek lagi, coba kita liat apa 
bisa BREAK 1720...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, Gidion Simamora 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bandar coba ngangkat man. tapi kayaknya gak kuat dan akan turun 
lagi.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:43 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
 
 
 
 9:39
 
 IHSG +22 
 
 Anak baik, akur ama saudara, ENGGA MBALELO...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  9:08 WIB
  
  Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
 


 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Kalo melihat pola Candlestick saat ini jam 11:46,
maka terlihat pola PREGNANT BULL yg artinya bullish.
Asal jangan KEGUGURAN aja.. hehehe...

Pregant bull = bullish harami bukan ?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Gidion Simamora 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ketangguhan para jagoan lokal sedang diuji.
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:58 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
 
  
 
 Regional masih ON
 
 IHSG lagi nyoba naek lagi, coba kita liat apa 
 bisa BREAK 1720...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, Gidion Simamora 
 sgidion@ wrote:
 
  Bandar coba ngangkat man. tapi kayaknya gak kuat dan akan turun 
 lagi.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:43 AM
  To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
  
  
  
  9:39
  
  IHSG +22 
  
  Anak baik, akur ama saudara, ENGGA MBALELO...
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   9:08 WIB
   
   Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
  
 





RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Gidion Simamora
Saya lagi tunggu nanti jam 15.30 para swinger akan buang amunisi di 8400.

 

-Original Message-
From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:39 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

 

Sepertinya mustahil turun ke Rp.7400 pak.

Waktu itu turun dikarenakan PANIC SELLING

dan yang jual banyak cuma 1 bandar BESAR

 

Bayangkan saja waktu sebelum itu, mau beli diharga Rp.10.000

susah setengah mati.

 

Tunggu diatas Rp.11.000,-

 

 



Gidion Simamora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PGAS mau ditunggu di harga berapa nih bos biar dapat Roll Royce? Apa bisa
mampir lagi di 7400?

 

-Original Message-
From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:58 AM
To: saham@yahoogroups.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

 

Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,

dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,

maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi

 

Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase keuntungan.

 

So New Target - PGAS jadi ROLL ROYCE.

  


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik cbd_groups
Jangan lupa ini saham khusus para INVESTOR

 

Thx

 

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jack Cowok
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:39 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

 

Sepertinya mustahil turun ke Rp.7400 pak.

Waktu itu turun dikarenakan PANIC SELLING

dan yang jual banyak cuma 1 bandar BESAR

 

Bayangkan saja waktu sebelum itu, mau beli diharga Rp.10.000

susah setengah mati.

 

Tunggu diatas Rp.11.000,-

 

 



Gidion Simamora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PGAS mau ditunggu di harga berapa nih bos biar dapat Roll Royce? Apa bisa
mampir lagi di 7400?

 

-Original Message-
From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:58 AM
To: saham@yahoogroups.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

 

Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,

dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,

maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi

 

Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase keuntungan.

 

So New Target - PGAS jadi ROLL ROYCE.

  


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik cbd_groups
Jangan Lupa !!! Ini saham khusus Investor
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Sepertinya mustahil turun ke Rp.7400 pak.
   Waktu itu turun dikarenakan PANIC SELLING
   dan yang jual banyak cuma 1 bandar BESAR

   Bayangkan saja waktu sebelum itu, mau beli diharga Rp.10.000
   susah setengah mati.

   Tunggu diatas Rp.11.000,-


   
 
 Gidion Simamora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   PGAS mau ditunggu di harga berapa nih bos biar dapat 
Roll Royce? Apa bisa mampir lagi di 7400?

   -Original Message-
 From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:58 AM
 To: saham@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

   Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,
 
 dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,
 
 maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi
 
  
 
 Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase 
keuntungan.
 
  
 
 So New Target - PGAS jadi ROLL ROYCE.
 
 
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
hohohohohoho.. u wish 

Gidion Simamora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Saya lagi tunggu nanti 
jam 15.30 para swinger akan buang amunisi di 8400…
   
  -Original Message-
From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:39 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target
   
  Sepertinya mustahil turun ke Rp.7400 pak.

Waktu itu turun dikarenakan PANIC SELLING

dan yang jual banyak cuma 1 bandar BESAR

 

Bayangkan saja waktu sebelum itu, mau beli diharga Rp.10.000

susah setengah mati.

 

Tunggu diatas Rp.11.000,-

 

 



Gidion Simamora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

PGAS mau ditunggu di harga berapa nih bos biar dapat Roll Royce? 
Apa bisa mampir lagi di 7400?

 

-Original Message-
From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:58 AM
To: saham@yahoogroups.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

 

Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,


  dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,


  maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi


   


  Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase keuntungan.


   


  So New Target - PGAS jadi ROLL ROYCE.


  


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[obrolan-bandar] BANK INDONESIA CUTS INTEREST RATE TO 9% FROM 9.25%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert


jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Kalo melihat pola 
Candlestick saat ini jam 11:46,
maka terlihat pola PREGNANT BULL yg artinya bullish.
Asal jangan KEGUGURAN aja.. hehehe...

Pregant bull = bullish harami bukan ?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Gidion Simamora 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ketangguhan para jagoan lokal sedang diuji.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:58 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
 
 
 
 Regional masih ON
 
 IHSG lagi nyoba naek lagi, coba kita liat apa 
 bisa BREAK 1720...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, Gidion Simamora 
 sgidion@ wrote:
 
  Bandar coba ngangkat man. tapi kayaknya gak kuat dan akan turun 
 lagi.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:43 AM
  To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
  
  
  
  9:39
  
  IHSG +22 
  
  Anak baik, akur ama saudara, ENGGA MBALELO...
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   9:08 WIB
   
   Index Regional ASIA rebound rata2 1%
  
 




 

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BANK INDONESIA CUTS INTEREST RATE TO 9% FROM 9.25%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

As anticipated by the market. So good news for banking financing, property,
automotive, motorbike  industries?
Let see part 2 today.


[obrolan-bandar] Re: BANK INDONESIA CUTS INTEREST RATE TO 9% FROM 9.25%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik dfaj21
Ada pengaruhnya ke ORI gak ya? Apa ikutan turun ataukah ORI-nya tetap,
atau bagaimana?



 As anticipated by the market. So good news for banking financing,
property,
 automotive, motorbike  industries?
 Let see part 2 today.





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BANK INDONESIA CUTS INTEREST RATE TO 9% FROM 9.25%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik sonnie
ORI001 bakal naik deh nominalnya, kalo ORI002 bakal
release bntar lagi dengan return setahun 9,28% pa
gross (blom kena pajak),

-sonnie-

--- dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ada pengaruhnya ke ORI gak ya? Apa ikutan turun
 ataukah ORI-nya tetap,
 atau bagaimana?
 
 
 
  As anticipated by the market. So good news for
 banking financing,
 property,
  automotive, motorbike  industries?
  Let see part 2 today.
 
 
 
 



 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] It may lead to a new bull rally

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Gidion Simamora
Seems to be right. IHSG 1,728.00 14.00

 

Thanks  rgds,

Gidion Simamora

PT. Wisangeni Internusa

Jembatan Batu 81 Pinangsia

Jakarta 0

Ph. 62 21 6266845

Fax. 62 21 6120062

Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Bettina Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:49 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] It may lead to a new bull rally

 

Condusive environment on neighbouring country, in addition to internal
factors such as lower SBI rate may spark a new bull rally. In technical
minor support has been touched and market is now trying to find their
resistance. 

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] It may lead to a new bull rally

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
i thought you are for 1610.

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Condusive environment on 
neighbouring country, in addition to internal factors such as lower SBI rate 
may spark a new bull rally. In technical minor support has been touched and 
market is now trying to find their resistance. 

 

 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BANK INDONESIA CUTS INTEREST RATE TO 9% FROM 9.25%

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik dfaj21
Jadi turun ratenya dibanding ORI-001?

Thanks banget atas jawabannya



 ORI001 bakal naik deh nominalnya, kalo ORI002 bakal
 release bntar lagi dengan return setahun 9,28% pa
 gross (blom kena pajak),
 
 -sonnie-
 
 --- dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ada pengaruhnya ke ORI gak ya? Apa ikutan turun
  ataukah ORI-nya tetap,
  atau bagaimana?
  
  
  
   As anticipated by the market. So good news for
  banking financing,
  property,
   automotive, motorbike  industries?
   Let see part 2 today.
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
  


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
USD/IDR = 9,250 (+ 86).
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andri Wijaya
Sent: 05 Maret 2007 15:25
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630
 
Eropa udah -100 lagi kalau malam dow -100 -200 besok ihsg open gap down
lagi, kalau hari ini ditutup cuman -35 dan besok dibuka -50
jadi yang mau buy ..
On 3/5/07, hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
agreed.
prediksi saya index hari ini berkisar - 25 s/d -35.
liat nanti jam 15:40
disclaimer on.
On 3/5/07, Frederick Schubert  pemainbesar@
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] yahoo.com wrote:
hehehehehehecome on..how about 700...?
we are NOT in any kind of financial and economic crisis.
I think jakarta is still resilientmain index may be closed today at
1709-1721 
disclaimer is on

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
:-( 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] MEREKA GAK BISA JUALAN - KALAU GAK BELANJA

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Ternyata para bandar lari tunggang langgang juga.
  Takut sama index regional yg merah.
   
  Prinsip utama kita sih:
   
  PEMAIN GAK MUNGKIN BISA JUALAN atau CUAN KALO GAK ADA BARANG.
   
  So, bagi yang average down. 
   
  SEMANGAT SELALU
   
  Bagi yang sudah jualan MURAH, Thanks sama PEMERATAAN PENDAPATANNYA.
   

 
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[obrolan-bandar] KEBANYAKAN NET BUYING

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Jangan termanipulasi oleh penurunan index.
   
  Sebagian besar bandar adalah posisi NET BUYING

 
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[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: [Pasar_Modal] Info buku baru ttg wealth/life management: Energize Yourlife

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[obrolan-bandar] Bagaimana dengan Q4 INCO?

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
Record nickel prices propel OM Group's Q4 profit Mon Mar 5, 2007 7:19am ET




 March 5 (Reuters) - OM Group Inc. (OMG.N: Quote, Profile , Research), a maker 
of metal-based specialty chemicals, said fourth-quarter profit rose, mostly due 
to dramatically higher nickel prices.
 Net earnings were $56.8 million, or $1.93 per share, compared with $11.6 
million, or 40 cents per share, in the same quarter of 2005, the 
Cleveland-based company said.
 On Friday, world No.1 nickel producer Russia's Norilsk Nickel (GMKN.MM: Quote, 
Profile , Research) had completed the deal to buy OM Group's nickel assets.
 In November last, Norilsk had agreed to buy the mining and refining assets 
located in Finland and Australia for $408 million plus a contract to supply 
practically all its cobalt to OM Group.  (Reporting by Sayantani Ghosh in 
Bangalore)   

 
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Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik gangway


Ada yang bisa kasih gambaran apa efek pelemahan Rp thd Dollar kepada IHSG ??
Kan sekarang republic kita sdh tidak terlalu banyak membuat hutang LN lagi ??
Walaupun angsuran hutang lama dalam USD masih besar tapi seharusnya tidak
terlalu besar pengaruhnya ...


Rgds A3K


From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aria Bela Nusa
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:35 PM
To:
Cc:
Importance: High

USD/IDR = 9,250 (+ 86)…

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andri Wijaya
Sent: 05 Maret 2007 15:25
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630

Eropa udah -100 lagi kalau malam dow -100 -200 besok ihsg open gap down
lagi, kalau hari ini ditutup cuman -35 dan besok dibuka -50
jadi yang mau buy ..
On 3/5/07, hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
agreed.
prediksi saya index hari ini berkisar - 25 s/d -35.
liat nanti jam 15:40
disclaimer on.
On 3/5/07, Frederick Schubert  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hehehehehehecome on..how about 700...?
we are NOT in any kind of financial and economic crisis.
I think jakarta is still resilientmain index may be closed today at
1709-1721
disclaimer is on

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




RE: Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Itu artinya, pd suatu saat tertentu itu pelemahan FX Market (scr
signifikan) ada hub dg Capital Market, yaitu FX Players banyakan jualan
saham2 yg telah dibelinya (net sell) tentunya dlm IDR - habis itu
duitnya utk beli2 USD (IDR melemah), 'dah -- kaitannya spt itu.
 
:) Kenapa concerns dg FX players itu ? Krn sebag dr mereka merupakan
Bu-Gil - yg kebetulan berasal dr LN (AS)  kebetulan ikutan2 invest di
AS  China pula - biar bgm sedikit atau banyak mereka concerns
(terpengaruh) dg perkembangan perekonomian di sono.
 
Regards,
 
Aria
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 Maret 2007 7:25
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: saham@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630
 


Ada yang bisa kasih gambaran apa efek pelemahan Rp thd Dollar kepada
IHSG ??
Kan sekarang republic kita sdh tidak terlalu banyak membuat hutang LN
lagi ??
Walaupun angsuran hutang lama dalam USD masih besar tapi seharusnya
tidak
terlalu besar pengaruhnya ...

Rgds A3K


From: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aria Bela Nusa
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:35 PM
To:
Cc:
Importance: High

USD/IDR = 9,250 (+ 86).

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andri Wijaya
Sent: 05 Maret 2007 15:25
To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next target: 1630

Eropa udah -100 lagi kalau malam dow -100 -200 besok ihsg open gap down
lagi, kalau hari ini ditutup cuman -35 dan besok dibuka -50
jadi yang mau buy ..
On 3/5/07, hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:hstauto%40gmail.com com
wrote:
agreed.
prediksi saya index hari ini berkisar - 25 s/d -35.
liat nanti jam 15:40
disclaimer on.
On 3/5/07, Frederick Schubert  pemainbesar@
mailto:pemainbesar%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:
hehehehehehecome on..how about 700...?
we are NOT in any kind of financial and economic crisis.
I think jakarta is still resilientmain index may be closed today at
1709-1721
disclaimer is on

Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ mailto:bettina.tan%40gmail.com gmail.com
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[obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,
  dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,
  maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi
   
  Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase keuntungan.
   
  So New Target - PGAS jadi ROLL ROYCE.

 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

2007-03-05 Terurut Topik Gidion Simamora
PGAS mau ditunggu di harga berapa nih bos biar dapat Roll Royce? Apa bisa
mampir lagi di 7400?

 

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From: Jack Cowok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:58 AM
To: saham@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS jadi Roll Royce - New Target

 

Berhubung PGAS belum bisa dijadikan MERCY,

dan bandar semakin buang barang 2 hari ini,

maka target berikutnya dinaikkan lagi

 

Semakin murah harga saham, semakin tinggi prosentase keuntungan.

 

So New Target - PGAS jadi ROLL ROYCE.

  

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