[obrolan-bandar] Re: ISAT BUY OR SELL ???
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Angelo Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Menurut bandar Detector sih bandar ISAT lagi ngumpulin sejak 15 november. MetaStock(c) Let You Know When to Trade and What to Trade - Original Message From: Veter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rendra [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nico Jonckheere [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; Andrew Tanuwijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Harris Hadinata [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Benito [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Milis- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:26:47 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT BUY OR SELL ??? Recent Activity 148New Members 24New Photos 3New Links Visit Your Group Yahoo! News Odd News You won't believe it, but it's true Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice more. Yahoo! Groups Real Food Group Share recipes and favorite meals..Selamat siang semuanya, Cuma mau sharing pendapat saya tentang kasus Indosat dan TLKM yang terjadi baru-baru ini, benar-benar menghebohkan keputusan KPPU kita. Tapi dari sisi lain sebenarnya menggembirakan karena justru menggambarkan kepastian dalam berinvestasi di negeri kita khususnya dalam urusan monopoli usaha. Secara umum kondisi sector telekomunikasi di Indonesia masih bagus bahkan sangat bagus. Kenapa ? karena pola masyarakat kita yang berasal dari kampung dimana kita hobi berbicara, mengobrol dan bersosialisasi. Sebagai contoh kadang jika kita gak ada kerjaan maka kita akan lebih memilih menelepon seseorang dibandingkan membaca (he he he). Maka itu gak heran jika ada seorang ibu teman saya yang menghabiskan pulsa HP hingga Rp 1 juta setiap bulannya. Walau tariff mahal tetap dipake tuh, katanya males pake telepon rumah, gak apal nomornya ..WALAH. Berikut saya lampirkan beberapa data (Diolah secara manual) ISAT dan TLKM : Dari data histories selama 2 tahun dibelakang sangat-sangat terlihat perusahaan mana yang tumbuh dan perusahaan mana yang sepertinya diam di tempat. Aneh Bukan ??? padahal keduanya adalah perusahaan besar bidang Telekomunikasi di Indonesia bahkan jika pangsa pasarnya disatukan mereka menguasai hingga 85% telepon seluler di Indonesia . WAW !!! Sebenarnya di lapangan terlihat bahwa ISAT sejak dibeli oleh group Temasek (tahun 2002) memang tidak melakukan banyak hal. Mereka seperti dibuat tidur padahal perlengkapan perang mereka sangat-sangat banyak dan termasuk pasukan terlatih untuk berperang (manajemen, SDM- nya, peralatannya ok semua). Lihat saja produk IM3 nya yang pada tahun 2000 an buming di kalangan anak muda (waktu itu saya masih kuliah). Saat itu rasanya anak muda gak dianggap gaul kalo pake Simpati atau Mentari, anak muda sudah identik dengan IM3. Selain itu untuk kalangan menengah keatas, Mentari juga memiliki pasar yang cukup besar di Indonesia terutama dengan beberapa paket yang menarik. Tapi apa daya, setelah tahun 2003 Temasek menjadi pemilik mayoritas maka ISAT disuruh balik ke kandang untuk hanya menjadi penonton dari Telkomsel menggila di pasaran. Produk lainnya yang jadi unggulan dari ISAT adalah SLI 001 nya yang waktu itu jika kita ingin telepon keluar maka kita langsung ingat 001, tapi sejak tahun 2003 berubah, 007-nya Telkom yang paling digembor-gemborkan dan paling sukses saat iklan tentang telepon ke Jemaah haji. Sejak tahun 2003 pula kita tidak melihat ada banyak iklan ISAT di televisi maupun media (mereka benar-benar off the record), sementara Telkom jadi trendsetter dunia telekomunikasi Indonesia . CHART ISAT : Bandingkan dengan TLKM : Keduanya ada sama sama melakukan stock split tapi memiliki implikasi yang hampir berbeda. Dari harga saham secara long term, maka terlihat adanya upaya menahan laju ISAT untuk memajukan yang satunya (just my analysis). Ok itu yang terjadi di masa yang lalu, sekarang kita lihat data selanjutnya, Data selanjutnya adalah data pada tahun 2007 ini : Yups, data diatas memperlihatkan adanya perbaikan dari manajemen Indosat, yang dapat dilihat adanya kenaikan Earning sebesar 53% dibandingkan TLKM yang hanya sebesar 13,86%. Kenaikan sebesar ini sebenarnya merupakan sinyal yang bagus buat ISAT di tahun untuk tahun 2008. Data di lapangan lebih lanjut memperlihatkan kepada kita adanya potensi yang besar dari ISAT untuk bertarung melawan GAJAH telekomunikasi di Indonesia (TLKM). Bagaimanapaun TLKM sudah terlalu besar untuk dapat bergerak lincah (gaji karyawan besar, jumlah banyak, dan akan ada 15% potongan harga), sementara lawan lainnya selain ISAT masih terlalu kecil untuk mengganggu sang gajah (khususnya di telepon seluler GSM dan fix line). Cuma ISAT yang mampu memberikan perlawanan kedepannya. ISAT telah mempersiapkan mesin tempurnya diantaranya adalah produk Starone, matrik, corporate solution dan juga IM2. Khusus untuk Starone nilai lebihnya adalah pada aplikasi internet yang
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
Sima??, Sima Naon Yeuh?? Sima Aing, Sima Maung???,.. Kabayan ateuh.. kikiki.. Kiddin Bu... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wheew, newbie newbie... means new, then buy... n sell n profit... no loss... profit profit but 'sometimes' chest menyempit... abis index 'sleep'... uuuh... aimee
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
wheew, newbie newbie... means new, then buy... n sell n profit... no loss... profit profit but 'sometimes' chest menyempit... abis index 'sleep'... uuuh... aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bahan Belajar Valuasi dr Oom Damodaran
Saya dah donlot dan sukses Thanks kang - Original Message From: kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:09:54 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bahan Belajar Valuasi dr Oom Damodaran waduh lg didonlot kali yah?? saya barusan tes donlot en lgsg diunzip bisa ko... yg laen pada bisa ato ga bisa nih yg investment fable nya?? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ ... wrote: filenya mau di download saja nggak bisa kang, On Nov 22, 2007 9:35 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_ saham kang_ocoy_maen_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: di unzip dulu pak.. soalnya filesnya size tanpa di zip 5.3 MB kalo diupload sini takut ga muat.. yg laen pada bisa buka ga setelah di unzip? kalo ga bisa jg saya coba upload lg... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ wrote: kang, nuhun buat ebook-na, investment fabel kunoun nggak bisa dibuka? On Nov 21, 2007 9:16 PM, kang_ocoy_maen_ saham kang_ocoy_maen_ saham@ wrote: http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ files/ Guys, Bro, Big Bros, Sis, Friends, dan sklian jg minta ijin dulu ama Embah... buat yg mo belajar valuasi en FA rada advance dikit... sebelumnya saya sudah rekomen buku2nya Damodaran sbg Guide utk mengulik dan mendalami valuasi. berikut telah saya upload ke seksi files OB, buku elektronik Damodaran yg Investment Fables dan Dark Side of Valuation. dengan harapan semoga berguna dan menambah motivasi dan keingintahuan anda yg berniat berkenalan lebih jauh dengan evaluasi.. sedikit deskripsi dan kesan personal ttg buku ini, baca buku ini enaknya sambil dipraktekkin. . saya sendiri punya versi fisiknya jd dulu sering dibawa2 sambil belajar dan baca2 di mobil ato kalo lg senggang., skrg pun masih.. jd lebih efektifnya mungkin bisa anda print dan sesuaikan dalam format buku yg enak dibaca sambil bisa di uji-latihkan. .. the use of the book, of course kalo dibaca, dipelajari dan diamlkan/dipraktekk an.. buku2 berikut sifatnya agak lebih enteng dibanding buku2 textbooknya damodaran yg laen (valuation, corporate finance)., tapi tetap pada kadar insight dan knowledge gem yg sama bahkan lebih bagus. relatif enak dibaca karena lebih seperti buku cerita (sperti intelligent investor nya graham), kesan saya akan buku2 ini seperti mengextract pengalaman dan proses pembelajaran dan pengujian ilmiah panjang dan komprehensif ke dalam bagian singkat yg padat dan insightful.. . trust me, sesudah menyelesaikan buku ini saya merasa knowledge dan pengetahuan investasi saya serasa leapfrog dan membuka pandangan baru tentang valuasi. saran saya adalah, Baca dan Selesaikan, Praktekkan/data test kan... lama2 mungkin jd ketagihan en seneng ngulik2 Valuasi Saham... dan kenapa saya rekomenkan anda melakukan itu meski terkesan meribetkan diri aja pake belajar yg rumit2 gitu??, well pertama2 ini sama sekali ga rumit.. dan ke dua dengan menguasai dasar2 valuasi minimal anda dapat keuntungan SBB ; *Terhindar dr kegiatan Spekulasi tanpa sadar (utk muslim ini penting) *mengetahui worthiness dr investasi anda sehingga bisa melakukan strategi dan manajemen yg tepat. *meng-enhance kemampuan analisa dan performa investasi anda, juga menghindarkan anda dr tipu2 analisa dan valuasi brokerage, anda tidak perlu tergantung kpd analisa dan riset org lain lg. sedikit resensi mengenai buku ini ; Investment Fables - Dekonstruksi Mitos2 Investasi dalam penyampaian yg menarik, ilmiah dan tepat guna (persis cara si Embah nyampein pesan), bikin anda bisa meresapi tiap2 investment idea, komprehensif tp praktis... ini bisa mengcover banyak strategi dan preferensi investasi yg mungkin anda pakai dan bisa praktekkan di kemudian hari... dark side of valuation - hehe, Must read bwt yg udah bisa valuasi dikit2... learn and realize the dark side of it. valuation-ripped off-by the master valuation himself lah... must read... sedikit mengenai Damodaran, Highly respected person di dunia investasi, hampir gada mahasiswa finance yg ga kenal beliau atau pernah baca bukunya... mata kuliah corfin dan equity valuation itu referensinya pasti bukunya dy.. saya jg pertama kenal buku dy sekitar tahun 2004 dr Dosen dulu pertama kali... Saya sendiri respek banget sama orang ini, muda dan hebat... mempraktiskan dan mempermudah belajar valuasi. kalo mo niat belajar lebih dalem dia juga sediain worksheet excel gratis di homepage dy.. buat latihan dan valuasi cepat tokcer banget lah.. pokonya murah ilmu en education-dedicated deh ni orang... silahkan kunjungi homepagenya di http://pages. stern.nyu. edu/~adamodar/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] To Daddy Aussie, PDF hasil decompress ERROR ?
error karena pas upload nya dari gudang OB belum selesai Mbah dah klicken. saya buka bisa tuh. buntut nya ya rar. ngga rar.part lg. jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: To Daddy Aussie, Buku Way of the Turtle_Curtis Faith.rar,E-book Way of the Turtle_Curtis Faith (2007) PDF hasil decompressnya calo dibuka Adobe reader: ERROR ? Apa yg salah yah ? - Ihr erstes Fernweh? Wo gibt es den schönsten Strand.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Efendi pendie77@ wrote: RE ; Ini himbauan buat seluruh shareholders ANTM... Nikel still down belows 30.000, effect to ANTM . SIP : TBUMI Investor sudah mulai cerdas saat ini dan juga pemain jangka panjang. Jadi harga nikel hari ini mau jadi berapa, no problem. Pemain juga sudah terbiasa dgn gocangan bursa regional, maka saham ANTM terbukti tak bisa turun banyak, malahan sudah mulai naik kembali.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CIPUTRA GRUP
long term = akumulasi aja short/medium = jangan masuk dulu atau kurangi aja dikit. sy yakin, manajemennya bagus kok, sy juga pegang dikit nih pas ipo. iwan jalal wrote: bos2 tolong pencerahannya, situasi seperti ini kira2 gimana yah nasib saham ciputra grup (CTRA. CTRS, CTRP) ? bisa colect atau jual ? __ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Lucu juga punya 2 saham dg harga sama (4600) tapi yg satu pot. gain +52% (ANTM) yg laen lagi pot.loss -3% (BUMI) - Pesan Asli Dari: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 23 November, 2007 3:53:07 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM Perhatikan antm, menjelang penutupan naik sedikit2 4500..4525.. 4550..4575. .4600! Akankah berlanjut? Pak tbumi in action!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Apa Nickel masih ada harapan ke 50rb lagi? pabrik baru makin tambah, sedangkan demand kan kemungkinan turun dengan adanya perlambatan ekonomi. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Junior Jack Sparrow rudi.suwandi@ wrote: ok. aq setuju pak TBUMI , pengen kash sinyal kalo nikel rebound ke 50.000 antm bakal high fly. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Charisma Kang Ocoy
ini kalo jaman dulu dah dibuatin pilem sama Sjumandjaja [Alm.]. kira kira judulnya 'Karisma Jawara' atawa 'Ocoy Sang Penakluk' kalo sinetron sekarang mungkin jadi 'Cinta Bersemi di Milis' wakakakakaka ;-) eh berjuta juta maap ya Kang. bercanda lho. Kang Ocoy emang karismanya luar biasa ;-) itu Ratu Sima sampai terkapar. Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mr. Kang Ocoy... Weird name but mommy says it's a queen in Kalingga Kingdom of Java... Are you married or single? Your article's so sweet and log sometimes. Bet you make a nice sweet father and husband to your wife and kids, if any... Guess you're a PHD. For newbies, why not start with few lots in good stocks... As old saying says 'dikit dikit lama-lama jadi bukit'... Courage n confident is important... So, go to buy ANTM, BUMI, BBRI, BBCA, or other growth stocks and they grow and grow... each few lots. KMIIW (kiss me if i'm wrong) love, Aimee - Beginnen Sie den Tag mit den neuesten Nachrichten. Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Mantap,kutitipkan ANTM padamu Pak TBUMI. salam coan - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Efendi pendie77@ wrote: RE ; Ini himbauan buat seluruh shareholders ANTM... Nikel still down belows 30.000, effect to ANTM . SIP : TBUMI Investor sudah mulai cerdas saat ini dan juga pemain jangka panjang. Jadi harga nikel hari ini mau jadi berapa, no problem. Pemain juga sudah terbiasa dgn gocangan bursa regional, maka saham ANTM terbukti tak bisa turun banyak, malahan sudah mulai naik kembali.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Hor\P Heriadi jadi beli gigi emas buat neneknya nih Kalau saya. Kayaknya jadi bookin grumah nih. Tapi bukan di pondok indah dulu lah hehehe On Nov 23, 2007 9:57 AM, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mantap,kutitipkan ANTM padamu Pak TBUMI. salam coan - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Efendi pendie77@ wrote: RE ; Ini himbauan buat seluruh shareholders ANTM... Nikel still down belows 30.000, effect to ANTM . SIP : TBUMI Investor sudah mulai cerdas saat ini dan juga pemain jangka panjang. Jadi harga nikel hari ini mau jadi berapa, no problem. Pemain juga sudah terbiasa dgn gocangan bursa regional, maka saham ANTM terbukti tak bisa turun banyak, malahan sudah mulai naik kembali.
[obrolan-bandar] ANTM BUMI ngejar ISAT
nanya Mbah atau mas Oentoeng. betul ga? salam @Mbah buka file nya pake adobe versi lama aja Mbah (versi 7) kalo versi baru harus install updatenya komplit biasanya baru ga error.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
yea i know.. a javanese queen that cut her son's hand for the strictness of justice.. sori2, joke saya td kedaerahan sih... sori2 sima aing, sima maung was a sundanese joke mantra.. yg pernah nonton kabayan pasti tahu.. haha2.. sima aing, sima maung.. maung aing maung bandung.. Dar .. Dar .. Dar .. (Ninceuk bumi tilu kali) sori jokenya garing... wheew husband or father??.. 21 years old single.., boro2 PhD, sarjana aja belon beres2... keasikan di market.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Kang Ocoy... Weird name but mommy says it's a queen in Kalingga Kingdom of Java... Are you married or single? Your article's so sweet and log sometimes. Bet you make a nice sweet father and husband to your wife and kids, if any... Guess you're a PHD. For newbies, why not start with few lots in good stocks... As old saying says 'dikit dikit lama-lama jadi bukit'... Courage n confident is important... So, go to buy ANTM, BUMI, BBRI, BBCA, or other growth stocks and they grow and grow... each few lots. KMIIW (kiss me if i'm wrong) love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] newbie mo belajar saham???
i am a newbie pak abdul. the fuel/wood is what i feel right now. this market have to provide a profit on and on to a traders/investors, fee to broker. where it came from ? the source is definitely a loss from other traders/investors. a big possibly losers is one who unprepared with tools and knowledge like a newbies. join in this OB will lessen chance of loss, i hope. gdbrook On Nov 23, 2007 2:54 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 23, 2007 8:11 AM, gdbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How engine can keep on running ?, it need fuel to be pumped into ignation chamber. and how to warm a cooled air in winter?, wood need to be thrown to fire. This is winter and engine is running out of gas. newbies bring a new hope to a stock market. Maksudnya newbie mau dijadiin kayu bakar? tumbal? hihihi. Cian deh kite yang nuwbie
Re: [obrolan-bandar] To Daddy Aussie, PDF hasil decompress ERROR ?
Di saya gak error tuh Mbah :p On Nov 23, 2007 9:07 AM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Daddy Aussie, Buku Way of the Turtle_Curtis Faith.rar,E-book Way of the Turtle_Curtis Faith (2007) PDF hasil decompressnya calo dibuka Adobe reader: ERROR ? Apa yg salah yah ?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
selama PAWANG ANTM masih BERJAGA2, INVESTOR aman BERTEDUH di ANTM harga NIKEL gak NGARUH ke ANTM selama PAWANG tidak TIDUR kayak jaman dulu waktu BABE masih berkuasa, banyak yang nyaman BERTEDUH di POHON RINDANG apa beda saham IKAI dengan ANTM ??? kalu harga spot nikel jatuh menjadi $5/lb regards On Nov 23, 2007 3:04 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow Nikel still down belows 30.000, effect to ANTM . SIP : TBUMI Investor sudah mulai cerdas saat ini dan juga pemain jangka panjang. Jadi harga nikel hari ini mau jadi berapa, no problem. Pemain juga sudah terbiasa dgn gocangan bursa regional, maka saham ANTM terbukti tak bisa turun banyak, malahan sudah mulai naik kembali.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Perhatikan antm, menjelang penutupan naik sedikit2 4500..4525..4550..4575..4600! Akankah berlanjut? Pak tbumi in action!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apa Nickel masih ada harapan ke 50rb lagi? pabrik baru makin tambah, sedangkan demand kan kemungkinan turun dengan adanya perlambatan ekonomi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow rudi.suwandi@ wrote: ok. aq setuju pak TBUMI , pengen kash sinyal kalo nikel rebound ke 50.000 antm bakal high fly.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
Mr. Kang Ocoy... Weird name but mommy says it's a queen in Kalingga Kingdom of Java... Are you married or single? Your article's so sweet and log sometimes. Bet you make a nice sweet father and husband to your wife and kids, if any... Guess you're a PHD. For newbies, why not start with few lots in good stocks... As old saying says 'dikit dikit lama-lama jadi bukit'... Courage n confident is important... So, go to buy ANTM, BUMI, BBRI, BBCA, or other growth stocks and they grow and grow... each few lots. KMIIW (kiss me if i'm wrong) love, Aimee
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Apa Nickel masih ada harapan ke 50rb lagi? pabrik baru makin tambah, sedangkan demand kan kemungkinan turun dengan adanya perlambatan ekonomi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok. aq setuju pak TBUMI , pengen kash sinyal kalo nikel rebound ke 50.000 antm bakal high fly.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Re: Penghapusan Broker Code [Background History]
Embah, data Top Value, Top Frequency, de el el di JSX kok ga bisa dibuka Mbah http://www.jsx.co.id/MarketData/DefinedData/tabid/166/Default.aspx jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dihapus Rekomendasi yang muncul dari Bapepam akibat adanya kejadian TMPI ini salah satunya adalah penghapusan Broker Code dari Data Trade BEJ. dihapus IAN: Jangan karena nila setitik rusak susu sebelanga. Kalau cuma karena kejadian TMPI, gampang saja rekomendasinya. Yang harusnya dihapuskan dari BEJ itu bukan Broker Code, tapi TMPI nya saja yang dihapuskan dari BEJ. Jadi, pengobatan langsung ke sumber masalahnya...:) Bang Irwan, Patric - Apasih HUBUNGAN antara TMPI ama penghapusan Kode Broker ?. sorry nih engga suka NGIKUTI perkembangan TEMPE.. Yang SALAH itu bukan TMPI atau Kode Broker, yang salah itu MANUSIA nya. Orang kan bisa di BUI, kalo salah masukin aja ke BUI, gitu aja repot Ngapaian REPOT REPOT ngurusin Kode Broker yang disukai dan diPERLUkan oleh MAYORITAS investor. Dari hasil poll SEMENTARA 92% investor TIDAK SETUJU kode broker dihapus: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/polls Bapepam lagi engga ada KERJAAN mengkale... Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
ok. aq setuju pak TBUMI , pengen kash sinyal kalo nikel rebound ke 50.000 antm bakal high fly.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Kalo lagi dibandarin, mana ada bandar mau rugi? _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andri Wijaya Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:13 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM selama PAWANG ANTM masih BERJAGA2, INVESTOR aman BERTEDUH di ANTM harga NIKEL gak NGARUH ke ANTM selama PAWANG tidak TIDUR kayak jaman dulu waktu BABE masih berkuasa, banyak yang nyaman BERTEDUH di POHON RINDANG apa beda saham IKAI dengan ANTM ??? kalu harga spot nikel jatuh menjadi $5/lb regards On Nov 23, 2007 3:04 PM, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tbumi%40yahoo.com com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow Nikel still down belows 30.000, effect to ANTM . SIP : TBUMI Investor sudah mulai cerdas saat ini dan juga pemain jangka panjang. Jadi harga nikel hari ini mau jadi berapa, no problem. Pemain juga sudah terbiasa dgn gocangan bursa regional, maka saham ANTM terbukti tak bisa turun banyak, malahan sudah mulai naik kembali. ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: antm vs bumi
lo , bukannya harga emas naik karena permintaan yang meningkat? jadi kalo emas naik trus berarti permintaan meningkat trus... jadi gak usah takut gak ada yg mo beli emas mohon di koreksi kalo salah
[obrolan-bandar] Keep Solidarity for ANTM (MONDAY)
He..he..gua udah bilang kan. Make Solidarity for ANTM..hasilnya luarrr biasa. Tolong buat Senin..solidarity for ANTM juga yah. abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hor\P Heriadi jadi beli gigi emas buat neneknya nih Kalau saya. Kayaknya jadi bookin grumah nih. Tapi bukan di pondok indah dulu lah hehehe On Nov 23, 2007 9:57 AM, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mantap,kutitipkan ANTM padamu Pak TBUMI. salam coan - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Efendi pendie77@ wrote: RE ; Ini himbauan buat seluruh shareholders ANTM... Nikel still down belows 30.000, effect to ANTM . SIP : TBUMI Investor sudah mulai cerdas saat ini dan juga pemain jangka panjang. Jadi harga nikel hari ini mau jadi berapa, no problem. Pemain juga sudah terbiasa dgn gocangan bursa regional, maka saham ANTM terbukti tak bisa turun banyak, malahan sudah mulai naik kembali. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] antm vs bumi -- finishnya bareng 4650 (ANTM JOSSS!!!!)
antm lagi ngejoss, apakah gara2 tidak terganggu bursa amrik, akhirnya antm berkoar juga, besok tembus 4675? i hope so, ayo dowjones indeksnya bikin plus ya... gooo ggo gooo antm goo naik kereta api...tut!..tut!..tut!...siapa hendak katut kalu gw sih tetep mau antm, bumi kan baru restore 1-2 thn ini dulu mah FAnya merah melulu epsnya..kalu antm dari 3-4 thn lalu udah teruji jaman, eps nya ijooo melulu, tiap tahun growthnya 125%, gimana? ini lah ya menurut Pak O'Neill, stock yang memenuhi kriteria CAN-SLIM, udah baca? baca dulu donk, kan ada di arsipnya Mbah OB... ciao! salam cuan selalu... Khongchakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOGIKA aja.. ANTM : Harga emas NAIK terus, tapi nanti SIAPA yang mau beli emas (malah banyak yang jualan emas tuh di took emas); Harga nikel TRENDnya turun terus (liat chart tahunan). BUMI : Harga batu bara NAIK terus mengikuti harga minyak; BELUM diberlakukan kuota ekspor seperti timah; Batu bara dibeli untuk dipakai lagi dalam produksi yang menghasilkan barang yang dijual lagi alias PRODUKTIF; JADI, mau yang mana ? Salam, Khong . Ciao! Salam cuan selalu.. Terry Astradika - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
ehmm, 21 ?, kang ocoy, no 21 yrs old student can accomplish their study, ever. it sound like you've been in a looong time studying, then 25 or 26 is make sense. any queen will love men with this age, i've been 25 before. gdbrook On Nov 23, 2007 4:06 PM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea i know.. a javanese queen that cut her son's hand for the strictness of justice.. sori2, joke saya td kedaerahan sih... sori2 sima aing, sima maung was a sundanese joke mantra.. yg pernah nonton kabayan pasti tahu.. haha2.. sima aing, sima maung.. maung aing maung bandung.. Dar .. Dar .. Dar .. (Ninceuk bumi tilu kali) sori jokenya garing... wheew husband or father??.. 21 years old single.., boro2 PhD, sarjana aja belon beres2... keasikan di market.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Kang Ocoy... Weird name but mommy says it's a queen in Kalingga Kingdom of Java... Are you married or single? Your article's so sweet and log sometimes. Bet you make a nice sweet father and husband to your wife and kids, if any... Guess you're a PHD. For newbies, why not start with few lots in good stocks... As old saying says 'dikit dikit lama-lama jadi bukit'... Courage n confident is important... So, go to buy ANTM, BUMI, BBRI, BBCA, or other growth stocks and they grow and grow... each few lots. KMIIW (kiss me if i'm wrong) love, Aimee
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Frends,
ANTM n BUMI sepertinya lg seru neh Aku dukung ANTM dulu deh...
Pak TBUMI :D tarik terus ya ... :D
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Richard Ropongi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lucu juga punya 2 saham dg harga sama (4600) tapi yg satu pot. gain
+52% (ANTM)
yg laen lagi pot.loss -3% (BUMI)
- Pesan Asli
Dari: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jumat, 23 November, 2007 3:53:07
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Perhatikan antm, menjelang penutupan naik sedikit2
4500..4525.. 4550..4575. .4600! Akankah berlanjut? Pak tbumi in
action!!!
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, laven_28 laven_28@ . wrote:
Apa Nickel masih ada harapan ke 50rb lagi? pabrik baru makin tambah,
sedangkan demand kan kemungkinan turun dengan adanya perlambatan
ekonomi.
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Junior Jack Sparrow
rudi.suwandi@ wrote:
ok. aq setuju pak TBUMI ,
pengen kash sinyal kalo nikel rebound ke 50.000
antm bakal high fly.
Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda!
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
U Suit suiiit... Tuh Mba Sima. Kesempatan masih terbuka lebar. Masih bujangan. Masih daun muda pulak hehehe On Nov 23, 2007 10:06 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea i know.. a javanese queen that cut her son's hand for the strictness of justice.. sori2, joke saya td kedaerahan sih... sori2 sima aing, sima maung was a sundanese joke mantra.. yg pernah nonton kabayan pasti tahu.. haha2.. sima aing, sima maung.. maung aing maung bandung.. Dar .. Dar .. Dar .. (Ninceuk bumi tilu kali) sori jokenya garing... wheew husband or father??.. 21 years old single.., boro2 PhD, sarjana aja belon beres2... keasikan di market.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Kang Ocoy... Weird name but mommy says it's a queen in Kalingga Kingdom of Java... Are you married or single? Your article's so sweet and log sometimes. Bet you make a nice sweet father and husband to your wife and kids, if any... Guess you're a PHD. For newbies, why not start with few lots in good stocks... As old saying says 'dikit dikit lama-lama jadi bukit'... Courage n confident is important... So, go to buy ANTM, BUMI, BBRI, BBCA, or other growth stocks and they grow and grow... each few lots. KMIIW (kiss me if i'm wrong) love, Aimee
[obrolan-bandar] CIPUTRA GRUP
bos2 tolong pencerahannya, situasi seperti ini kira2 gimana yah nasib saham ciputra grup (CTRA. CTRS, CTRP) ? bisa colect atau jual ? ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] antm vs bumi
LOGIKA aja.. ANTM : Harga emas NAIK terus, tapi nanti SIAPA yang mau beli emas (malah banyak yang jualan emas tuh di took emas); Harga nikel TRENDnya turun terus (liat chart tahunan). BUMI : Harga batu bara NAIK terus mengikuti harga minyak; BELUM diberlakukan kuota ekspor seperti timah; Batu bara dibeli untuk dipakai lagi dalam produksi yang menghasilkan barang yang dijual lagi alias PRODUKTIF; JADI, mau yang mana ? Salam, Khong _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of anaknyaraja Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:01 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] antm vs bumi pilih mana nih, pagi ini kejar kejaran harganya lagi balapan apa?? antm vs bumi finish d brapa hari ini?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: antm vs bumi
wah makin seru aja, kira2 besok siapa yang di depan ? bapak/ibu tbumi pasti pilih antm, sy pilih bumi deh (seperti nama anda) hehehe salam. tbumi wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, anaknyaraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pilih mana nih, pagi ini kejar kejaran harganya lagi balapan apa?? antm vs bumi finish d brapa hari ini? sip : TBUMI Yg satu pakai BMW dan yg satu lagi Mercedes Benz. Keduanya sama kuat. Tergantung kepintaran pengendara mobil tsb di lokasi balap nanti.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita Terbaru dari MEDCO
Betul sekali,masuk MEDC sekarang gambling sekali,krn mengharapkan harga menuju 8000,jadi tolong dibanting dulu spy saya bisa nambah lagi,dan gamblingnya saya tambah besar.,ok? - Original Message - From: laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita Terbaru dari MEDCO Klo menurut Gua, masuk MEDCO sekarang berarti gambling... Fund2 gede aja gak berani ngangkat...mereka pasti udah tau MEDC dijual ato tidak... Bagi yang udah ada barang memang NO CHOICE, mau gak mau HOLD, ngarepin senen diangkat.. apalagi yang udah beli diatas... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kecil kemungkinan APEX batal dijual , managemen APEX sudah banyak ditarik ke MEDC ...
[obrolan-bandar] Inco stock split 1 : 10
http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2007/bulan/11/tgl/23/time/121214/idnews/856594/idkanal/6-- INCO ss 1:10
[obrolan-bandar] To Daddy Aussie, PDF hasil decompress ERROR ?
To Daddy Aussie, Buku Way of the Turtle_Curtis Faith.rar,E-book Way of the Turtle_Curtis Faith (2007) PDF hasil decompressnya calo dibuka Adobe reader: ERROR ? Apa yg salah yah ?
[obrolan-bandar] CPO break new high
CPO telah break new high hr ini dengan cpo kontrak des 07 di 3002 sedangkan cpo kontrak feb 08 3044. Saham CPO mana yg chartnya mirip dengan CPO ? Regards, Herman attachment: CPO break 3000.png
RE: [obrolan-bandar] POLY lageee.......
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM
good work TB, u made me wealthier klo beginian terus, boleh mesan crv buat natalan... memang antm saham VVIP. Harus diakui.. walau awal taon agak lelet, tapi ngejar n malah ngasih bonus di akhir taon... Thanks again, I owe u 1 - Original Message From: tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:39:08 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM SIP : TBUMI Kami ada banyak rekening di sekuritas sehingga tak ada satu sekuritaspun atau pemain lain tahu kekuatan kami disaat terjadi transaksi. Bisa jadi juga ada stock split di tahun 2008, kalau harganya bisa tembus diatas Rp. 15000 nanti. . Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook, CPO,TLKM,etc
MARKET OUTLOOK Friday, November 23, 2007 Indonesia shares may continue to trade in a directionless mode amid an absence of fresh leads, with lingering concerns over high oil prices and weak rupiah weighing down overall sentiment. But, as happened yesterday, a local big fund may continue to support the main index to float above 2530 for investment maintenance. The central bank early next month (December 6) would likely keep its key interest rate unchanged at 8.25% to weather impacts from weak rupiah and limit inflationary pressure. Any surprise move of cutting the rate would be considered as a gift. The main index may go down and Up by 32 points. Main index: 2534-2604 R2: 2626 TLKM: 10,100-10,400. It must be stuck in this range for a temporary consolidation, with best buying remaining at any level below IDR9,950. Nothing much from the corporate side, but some officials at Telkom told me that the company is setting up a new investment plan for 2008, which includes plan of acquisition and expanding company's business to be more regional... ISAT: 8,200-8,900. Nine-month earnings came in very well on spot, beating most analysts forecast. KPPU's decision must make Indosat a target of acquisition by foreign companies. BUY on weakness BMRI: 3,250-3,475. Chart says it is oversold, with IDR3,200 has proven to a be a strong support. A 32.18% retrace at IDR3,625 may be tested within 12 sessions or so... PGAS: 15,700-16,400. Chart says it looks more than stable to hold the bullish trend intact. Buy at the lower end on the range as target of IDR19,000 would be faster than expected... ASII: 21,100-23,300 Profit taking may continue to fill in gap of between IDR21,600-21,900. Buy at the lower end of the range. Car sales have recovered gradually and may return normal next year amid hopes of lower interest rates environment. Talks over possible stock split are also heating the trading floor... ANTM: 4,250-4,500. London Metal Exchange base metals found some footing from the week's losses Thursday, except for LME lead and nickel, with conditions seen volatile until fresh direction emerges. LME nickel slipped to a fresh two-month low of $28,600 a metric ton. I am still with a BUY at the lower end of the range... BUMI: 4,000-4,500. It may remain in a consolidation mode and building volume. The 12-month target has been revised upward to IDR6,200 to confront with the company's robust business outlook. BUY on weakness or at any level below IDR4,000. SPECIAL MENTION: AGAIN: all shares in palm-oil related companies. CPO prices in the world market continue to rise. MONITORING: PTBA: 9,800-10,900 LSIP: 9,000-10,200 UNSP: 2,075-2,350 TBLA: 620-690 MEDC: 4900-5,600 CPRO: 440-540 buy ETWA: 390-450 MIRA: 500-740 spec buy Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] CS-noted dated 20 Nov, BUMI, Indo TR %@))
From: Dileep Srivastava Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:05 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Credit Suisse - note dated 20 Nov '07 - Indonesia coal output drops 25% on rain Michele, I note from your story out on Bloomberg that CS analysts and a Trina Chen of HK are out with a report that Indonesia coal output is down by 25% on the back of Banpu and SAR sharp drops and force majeures - ends lamely by saying Bumi's sales estimates are down by 2%- leading to the question why Bumi is mentioned at all! Bumi , probably, is the only thermal coal producer which has actually increased sales in 2007! Bumi to end the year at 56 million tons or 12% higher than last year's 50 million tons. Moreover, Bumi's coal produced and conveyed at 39.3 million tons between Jan - Sep '07 is 9% higher over just 36.2 million tons in the same period last year. It is totally misleading to suggest that either Bumi's production or sales are below last year - in spite of the challenges. Bumi is ahead on all operating parametes and expects to end 2007 compared with 2006 as follows:- 12% higher volume - 56 MT vs 50 MT 5% higher average price - $43.00/MT vs 40.80/ MT Lower production cash cost - ca$ 1/ MT Core EPS nbsp; - at least 50% higher EPS (with XO)- over 4 times higher Rainfall is not a significant issue yet in Bumi yet - we operate in 14 mining areas with multiple pits in each of them in our 170,000 hectares concession areas ( 3x the size of Singapore), possess the flexibility to move coal to our 2 captive deep sea international ports ( which take cape sized vessels) either by conveyors and/or trucks, supplemented by our 3 owned dedicated barge terminals with access to floating transfer stations. We also have inventory spread across our concessions and with operators which give us flexibility on transportation and shipments - this inventory is equivalent to about 2 years production of some of the miners mentioned! I am not sure about Bloomberg's intent to club a world class multi site flexible mega operation like Bumi with the much smaller and obviously higher risk profile players - its misleading.I wish a credible offering like Bloomberg may like to ascertain true facts first before informing its global constituency at large - in my opinion, they deserve this consideration. We would like to renew our invitation to you all to visit our world class mine sites and ascertain facts for yourself first - some reputed media companies have already done so. After all credibility, in my opinion, should be the prime concern of any quality media offering. Regards, Dileep Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA
Yang saya curiga.. keperkasaan ANTM bukan hanya dari pendapatan. Ada beberapa hal yang bisa merubah sentimen thd satu saham (dlm hal ini antm): 1. Earning 2. harga komoditi 3. Corporate Action/akusisi/project 4. Regulasi Poin 1 dan 2 bisa dilihat secara mudah Nah poin 3 dan 4 ini yang kadang jadi faktor X dan permainan insider... hm hm hmm ANTM, mau ada apa ya... soalnya kalau cuma poin 1 dan 2 kayanya nggak mungkin sesakti ini... Regards, DE On Nov 23, 2007 9:59 PM, kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1000% saya setuju Mbah, fundamental jadi tiada arti juga, memang per sektor yg naik unggulan tapi harga apa tidak melebihi harga fundamentalnya? tetapi secara bandarmologi saya bisa mengerti seandainya ANTM dan BUMI dipakai buat ngejar ISAT. kalo secara fundamental agak ragu ANTM akan ditarik lagi sebab pendapatan 2008 tidak akan lebih baik dari tahun ini, kecuali capex/ akuisisi yg dapat menambah pendapatan tahun depan. kalo BUMI memang harga batubara naik di tahun mendatang. menurut saya ttg ANTM berilah ulasan spt Kang Ocoy, Mas Eka yg lainnya, terlepas dari harga tidak sesuai ulasan, dan janganlah saling ejek (seandainya ada yg begitu) peace salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA Kita pake penggaris GOCENG yg panjangnya 3 bulan dan kita hubungkan LOW POINT pada index maka kita dapatkan garis TRENDLINE SUPPORT: Kita dapatkan IHSG sudah menembus garis trend. Tapi coba kita test pada COMPONENT IHSG, kita dapatkan: YG MASIH DALAM TREND: = - MINING - AGRICULTURE - Basic Industry YG TRENDNYA TEMBUS KEBAWAH: === - Miscelaneous Industry - Consumer - Property: bearish trend - Infrastructure: bearish trend - Finance - Trade - Manufacture Terlihat COMPONENT IHSG sebenarnya sudah menembus garis TRENDLINE kecuali index pada sektor yg berhubungan dengan batubara, minyak, gas, mas, commodity dan kelapa sawit... So IHSG is SAVED by oil price crisis and gold price hike because people hunt for gold in the period of inflation and possible recession.. Pada kondisi ini, sepertinya IHSG menjadi tidak RELEVANT lagi untuk mengukur Ekonomi sektor RIEL atau dijadikan patokan Investasi dibursa. IHSG mau ke 3000 atau 2400 menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA... Index SEKTORALlah yg lebih MEWAKILI barometer keadaan ekonomi karena menjadi LUCU kalo IHSG NAIK sedangkan sektor produksi, industri, perbankan, property, keuangan dan perdagangan malah LOYO...
[obrolan-bandar] Re: USD Yen
Halo mas SBY. duren medan juga enak, manisnya, lembutnya, cuma yah itu dagingnya dikit, bijinya gede2 hehehe.. DOW ribon 183 poin, lumayan deh, mudah2an semua ngangkat hari senin, agak be'te saya nunggu indeks ribon, soalnya banyak pegang barang, malah udah mau liburan, takut libur ga tenang mas SBY kalo banyak ngumpulin juga mudah2an cuan banyak. salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salam kenal juga, yang ABG mah small leg kali, Btw, duren nya Monthong bukan, hehehe...enak banget tuh
Re: [obrolan-bandar] The Saint
ho oh Pak TA. pernah nonton 'The Saint' [anno 1997] ga? buat generasi tuir pasti tau dulu jaman channel cuma sebatang kara wae TVRI diputer tuh 'Simon Templar'. - http://www.moviemaster.de/archiv/film/film_1871.htm mantep deh tuh pilem. kaya di milis deh. serupa tapi tak sama. eh kebalik. sama tapi tak serupa. TerryAstradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Sepertinya bukan bu kentang deh pak, masih sodara tapi, adiknya atau kakaknya gitu? kalu nulis lebih halus dan santun gitchu lhoo...adiknya deh kyknya, hh auh ah elap...!! Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh maap numpang lewat. ini kalo di sinetron in mungkin judul nya: 'Kembalinya Pedagang Kentang' atawa 'Elaine is back'. hihihi mantep banget kepompong nya dah nongol lg. RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mr. TA, so smart. Or the question is which both of them will get down 4000 first? Hi hi... Then I'd average down from 4200, 4175, 4150 then go hanging out with my ex-college friends. When 5000 sells and TP. Wheew... Market is sleeping soundly. Can't guess. But ANTM breaks 4675, then 5000. Hmmm... KMIIW Love, Aimee . - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. - Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: antm vs bumi
The REAL money is GOLD... -- Salam ALX™ On 11/23/07, addi_wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lo , bukannya harga emas naik karena permintaan yang meningkat? jadi kalo emas naik trus berarti permintaan meningkat trus... jadi gak usah takut gak ada yg mo beli emas mohon di koreksi kalo salah
[obrolan-bandar] Statistik OKE
Memperhatikan statistik memang sering perlu banget Sebelum libur Thanksgiving... saya sempet lihat ulasan di CNBC bahwa dalam 5 atau 6 tahun terakhir.. DOW selalu ditutup merah sehari sebelum libur Thanksgiving... dan selalu ditutup hijau pada saat kembali aktif di hari Jum'atnya... -- Salam ALX™
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM
Pak DE, Kan spt Pak Oen bilang, mau lap Q3 lah, harga Ni naik turun lah, nggak ada pengaruh! Yg penting mood drivernya mau nyetir kemana...ya Pak Oen? Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANTM itu nggak punya bottom kayanya... naik terusss 5000 akhir tahun? kayanya akhir bulan juga kena nih... hihi... apa senin besok? nickel turun aja antm kaya gini, apalagi kalo nickel naik... WEW! Regards, DE On Nov 23, 2007 10:55 PM, sbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahaha.., bisa aja Pa Rei, itu mah Pa TB Antm, Peace .. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
Level 21 biasanya masih mikirin dugem nanti kalo udah di Level 42 baru mikirin Investing... Mau dibalik ya Kang Ocoy... ;-) -- Salam ALX™ On 11/23/07, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wheew husband or father??.. 21 years old single.., boro2 PhD, sarjana aja belon beres2... keasikan di market.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ratu Sima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Kang Ocoy... Are you married or single? Your article's so sweet and log sometimes. Bet you make a nice sweet father and husband to your wife and kids, if any... Guess you're a PHD.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900
Berapa harga saham BUMI sampai pertengahan tahun 2003? DIBAWAH Rp50. Sekarang berapa? Justru anda harus perhatikan yang di bawah Rp1.000. Toh saham yang harganya diatas Rp1.000 belum tentu lebih murah dibandingkan dengan saham yang harganya dibawah Rp1.000. So, kasih alasan dong kenapa harus avoid. Untuk para newbie HATI-HATI DENGAN STATEMENT SEPERTI INI. On 11/23/07, darma erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bagi mereka yang baru belajar saham, BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN avoid.avoid..!! *Data Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: TBLA supportnya di 610.beberapa sekuritas asing udah pada akumulasi spt AK, KZ *Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: -- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51732/*http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CIPUTRA GRUP
Setuju .. CIPUTRA .. unless you are willing to wait long long long time, baru lihat return yg biasa2 aja (kalo dibanding dengan saham lain), then menurut gw gak worth dilirik tuh saham. CTRP = Cuan Tidak Rugi Pula . From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of arnold Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:24 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CIPUTRA GRUP Ciputra is a very conservative group.. safe player.. cape deeh (nunggu nya) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , iwan jalal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bos2 tolong pencerahannya, situasi seperti ini kira2 gimana yah nasib saham ciputra grup (CTRA. CTRS, CTRP) ? bisa colect atau jual ? __ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook, CPO,TLKM,etc
SGRO ??? --- Salomo Gaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AALI nya kok ndak ada ? Rgrds, SLG On Nov 23, 2007 10:35 PM, Kalyana Mitta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARKET OUTLOOK Friday, November 23, 2007 Indonesia shares may continue to trade in a directionless mode amid an absence of fresh leads, with lingering concerns over high oil prices and weak rupiah weighing down overall sentiment. But, as happened yesterday, a local big fund may continue to support the main index to float above 2530 for investment maintenance. The central bank early next month (December 6) would likely keep its key interest rate unchanged at 8.25% to weather impacts from weak rupiah and limit inflationary pressure. Any surprise move of cutting the rate would be considered as a gift. The main index may go down and Up by 32 points. Main index: 2534-2604 R2: 2626 TLKM: 10,100-10,400. It must be stuck in this range for a temporary consolidation, with best buying remaining at any level below IDR9,950. Nothing much from the corporate side, but some officials at Telkom told me that the company is setting up a new investment plan for 2008, which includes plan of acquisition and expanding company's business to be more regional... ISAT: 8,200-8,900. Nine-month earnings came in very well on spot, beating most analysts forecast. KPPU's decision must make Indosat a target of acquisition by foreign companies. BUY on weakness BMRI: 3,250-3,475. Chart says it is oversold, with IDR3,200 has proven to a be a strong support. A 32.18% retrace at IDR3,625 may be tested within 12 sessions or so... PGAS: 15,700-16,400. Chart says it looks more than stable to hold the bullish trend intact. Buy at the lower end on the range as target of IDR19,000 would be faster than expected... ASII: 21,100-23,300 Profit taking may continue to fill in gap of between IDR21,600-21,900. Buy at the lower end of the range. Car sales have recovered gradually and may return normal next year amid hopes of lower interest rates environment. Talks over possible stock split are also heating the trading floor... ANTM: 4,250-4,500. London Metal Exchange base metals found some footing from the week's losses Thursday, except for LME lead and nickel, with conditions seen volatile until fresh direction emerges. LME nickel slipped to a fresh two-month low of $28,600 a metric ton. I am still with a BUY at the lower end of the range... BUMI: 4,000-4,500. It may remain in a consolidation mode and building volume. The 12-month target has been revised upward to IDR6,200 to confront with the company's robust business outlook. BUY on weakness or at any level below IDR4,000. SPECIAL MENTION: AGAIN: all shares in palm-oil related companies. CPO prices in the world market continue to rise. MONITORING: PTBA: 9,800-10,900 LSIP: 9,000-10,200 UNSP: 2,075-2,350 TBLA: 620-690 MEDC: 4900-5,600 CPRO: 440-540 buy ETWA: 390-450 MIRA: 500-740 spec buy Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Diskusi, Konseling dan Konsultasi GRATIS secara on-line tentang PERENCANAAN KEUANGAN. Untuk bergabung kirimkan email kosong ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kirim pertanyaan atau komentar ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[obrolan-bandar] THIS WEEK
this week trade, targets are: 1. Bumi Resources (4650-4850) 2. Tempo Scan (820-840) 3. Bakrie brother (315-330) GOOD LUCK - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Charisma Kang Ocoy
ko siliwangi??.. kalo gitu hidup persib lahh.., maung bandung maung aing... hihihihihi... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TerryAstradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: omong2 pak JA kemane nih? apa digantiin ama pak JL (james liem..hehehe) tapi sukur dah, biasanya kalu ga nongol2 gini, berarti index masih positif naik yaa..dulu pas debat ama bos LD ttg index 1850, bener kan index hampir nyentuh ke sana (turun). kemarin aja pas nongol dikit tarung ama Mba Kentang, index turun dikit juga kan? korelasinya ada tuh meski kebetulan.. pak sepersepuluhan juga ga nongol2 ya..? Pak Sudes apa digantiin ama pak TB(umi) ? pak jon amin yang cfa juga ga ada..? apa udh berubah jadi kang ocoy yang berkarisma tea..ceup...ceup...ceup...? meski s1 aja belum punya..sori coy.. di OB memang ada istilah Eka hilang dua terbilang, satu hilang muncul yang gantinya..mirip semboyan siliwangi...hidup siliwangi...!!! ciao! salam cuan selalu.. Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aimee, Elaine was a terrorist who used to carry a nuke bomb. She spread hatred among us, including specifically to me, Rei and James - which made us SICK - but after some fierce retaliation, she said goodbye and dissapeared along with the ex-Singaporean Prime Minister. Recently there's a rumor that she has switched gender and seen dressed like an Italian mobster, but quite medhok. Still it's just a rumor. Pretty hillarious, I guess. Hehehe.. Regards, DE On Nov 23, 2007 8:26 PM, TerryAstradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah lho pak CC!! tanggung jawab tuh!! RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. CC, Who is Elaine? Excuse me, I've just been joining for 1 month and not know all of people here. I've just graduated from college and spend my time investing. My Papa told me to learn from here coz he's too busy in a company. Can you tell me who elaine is and who is pedagang kentang. So weird name. Does it mean chip / blue chip trader? Uuuuh, clueless. Love, Aimee . Ciao! Salam cuan selalu.. Terry Astradika - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] Soybean prices surge near all-time high
Soybean prices surge near all-time high NEW YORK, Nov 24, 2007 (AP via COMTEX) -- Soybean prices surged to the highest in 34 years Friday because of strong demand from China and the dollar's tumble to an all-time low. Other agricultural futures, energy and metals prices also climbed. The dollar slumped to a record low versus the euro, which bought as much as $1.4966 in early trading. Fresh lows in the greenback have often been followed by slight recoveries -- which happened Friday -- but the dollar's longer-term trend has been lower. The weakness has been a boon for commodities, making everything from oil to corn appear cheaper to foreign investors and a more attractive place to invest during times of inflation. Soybeans rose to levels not seen since 1973, when Russia began an import program that created a whole new source of demand for U.S. soybeans. Now analysts say the major demand is coming from China, whose own soybean harvest this year was smaller than expected due to poor weather and whose demand has grown rapidly along with the country's economic development. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has reported a jump in soybean exports to China recently. The real story is China, which has a smaller bean crop than was previously thought and has recently been accumulating, said John Roach, president of Roach Ag Marketing Ltd. They were reluctant at first, then rushed the market over past couple of weeks. Besides the Chinese, you have speculative buyers -- because of (soybeans') long-term prospects and the sinking of the dollar -- putting more value into all hard assets, all the commodities. Soybeans for January delivery jumped 16.25 cents to end at $11.0025 a bushel on the Chicago Board of Trade, after earlier spiking to $11.03 -- the highest since July 1973, when a bushel fetched $11.87. Soybeans peaked at $12.90 a bushel in June 1973. Trading pits at the CBOT closed an hour early on Friday, at 12:00 p.m. CST. December corn rose 7 cents to settle at $3.89 a bushel, while December wheat added 23 cents to $8.265 a bushel. Meanwhile, gold climbed to $824.70 an ounce to close up $26.10 on the New York Mercantile Exchange, while silver and platinum prices also rose. Investors often turn to gold, in particular, to hedge against declining currency values and economic uncertainty. People remain concerned about the credit crisis and the banking system in general. People are worried about inflation; they're concerned about the dollar falling, said Christopher Wyke, product manager for emerging market debt and commodities. Our view is that gold is going to go up. December silver rose 31.5 cents to close at $14.735 an ounce on the Nymex, while January platinum added $13.30 to settle at $1,480.50 an ounce. Nymex copper for December delivery gained 10.3 cents to finish at $2.991 a pound. The Nymex closed an hour early Friday, at 1:30 p.m. EST. The greenback rebounded off its lowest point on Friday to trade mixed against other major currencies. The euro bought $1.4831 late Friday, off its peak and down from $1.4843 late Thursday. The story is the dollar is falling, and we don't think that's going to change, Wyke added. Clearly the euro has been the beneficiary, but the story is the dollar versus Asia. The best beneficiaries will be the fastest growing economies. We're talking about Asia, Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Energy prices rose. With temperatures dropping in the Midwest and Northeast, heating oil futures gained 1.68 cents to $2.7042 on the Nymex. Light, sweet crude for January delivery gained 89 cents to $98.18 a barrel, while gasoline for December delivery rose 2.99 cents to $2.467 a gallon. In supply news, a UK-based oil tanker tracking firm, Oil Movements, said exports from the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries are likely to go up by an average of 720,000 barrels a day in the four weeks ended Dec. 8, more than the expected 500,000 barrels per day. Additional supplies could keep some pressure on crude prices. OPEC's next policy meeting is set for Dec. 5 in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates. Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. image001.gifimage002.gifimage003.gifimage004.gifimage005.gifimage006.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Charisma Kang Ocoy
omong2 pak JA kemane nih? apa digantiin ama pak JL (james liem..hehehe) tapi sukur dah, biasanya kalu ga nongol2 gini, berarti index masih positif naik yaa..dulu pas debat ama bos LD ttg index 1850, bener kan index hampir nyentuh ke sana (turun). kemarin aja pas nongol dikit tarung ama Mba Kentang, index turun dikit juga kan? korelasinya ada tuh meski kebetulan.. pak sepersepuluhan juga ga nongol2 ya..? Pak Sudes apa digantiin ama pak TB(umi) ? pak jon amin yang cfa juga ga ada..? apa udh berubah jadi kang ocoy yang berkarisma tea..ceup...ceup...ceup...? meski s1 aja belum punya..sori coy.. di OB memang ada istilah Eka hilang dua terbilang, satu hilang muncul yang gantinya..mirip semboyan siliwangi...hidup siliwangi...!!! ciao! salam cuan selalu.. Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aimee, Elaine was a terrorist who used to carry a nuke bomb. She spread hatred among us, including specifically to me, Rei and James - which made us SICK - but after some fierce retaliation, she said goodbye and dissapeared along with the ex-Singaporean Prime Minister. Recently there's a rumor that she has switched gender and seen dressed like an Italian mobster, but quite medhok. Still it's just a rumor. Pretty hillarious, I guess. Hehehe.. Regards, DE On Nov 23, 2007 8:26 PM, TerryAstradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah lho pak CC!! tanggung jawab tuh!! RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. CC, Who is Elaine? Excuse me, I've just been joining for 1 month and not know all of people here. I've just graduated from college and spend my time investing. My Papa told me to learn from here coz he's too busy in a company. Can you tell me who elaine is and who is pedagang kentang. So weird name. Does it mean chip / blue chip trader? Uuuuh, clueless. Love, Aimee . Ciao! Salam cuan selalu.. Terry Astradika - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM
mengingatjan aja bos ; Growth Expansion Pack : ANTM punya story2 semacem Nickel Maluku DAN pembelian saham newmont.. this is not happening yet atau ga bakal terimplied dan revenue recognition paling engga in near future.. tapi potensinya jelas ada.. jadi kita kasarkan/perkirakan saja si story2 ini bakal memberikan added value buat capital investment ANTM paling engga 3% di masa datang. sehingga kalo story2 ini di factor in jadinya : Book Value tetep ajalah di 8 trilyun EPV Value version : Netincome/ CoC - G 2.71T / 0.12-0.03 = 30.11 Trilyun Total Value bila growth story factored-in = 38.11 T = Rp 4011 Value ANTM growth story factor in = rP 4011 dan untuk Growth Skenarionya 5/0.12-0.03 = Rp 5847 gROWTH pRice ANTM Story Factor in = Rp5848 sedangkan kalo story maluku n newmont ga pake diikut2in ; Value Version : 27T ditambah 8 T = 35T saham beredar = 9.5 milyar harga value per saham (saat ini)= Rp 3684.21 Growth Version 41 T ditambah 8T = 49 T Harga Growth per Saham = Rp 5157 tp nikel ga boleh turun dr 25000 loh yah... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biar makin NgeJOS ;-) Soalnya hasil riset yg laen udah ke laut semua alias udah gak relevan lagi... cuma ini yg masih relevan he he he -- Salam ALX On 11/22/07, ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Target Price ANTM Rel Date Broker TP Recomm 02/07/07 KZ 2,320 Sell 05/09/07 ML 1,501 Sell 17/10/07 Citigroup 3,125 Sell 20/11/07 DX 4,650 Add * dari berbagai sumber Salam ALX
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
So pasti dong, antm 5000 banyak yg senang cuan (kecil, sedang, besar super besar...yg terakhir cuma milik pak tbumi :p) Tapi saya toh cuma hold... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tp antm naek ttp lebih favourable donk, banyak yg dapet rejeki soalnya kalo iya.. he2.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Kalo saya lebih penasaran apa yg akan terjadi SETELAH 5000, di milis belakangan ini kan seru antara antm praiser vs. antm basher...Masing2 punya argumen kenapa antm mesti naik/turun (kecuali pak tbumi kali yah? Soalnya beliau yg narik! hahahaha) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ wrote: P. Rei, Saat ini kita liat aja permainan BOZZ di ANTM sampai hari Selasa. Sengaja saya posting hari gini. Biar BOZZ juga ada waktu untuk berpikir sekalian ngumpulin para dewa dewi raja and ratu segala untuk RAPAT. Toh kalau ANTM 5000 beneran pada hari Senin/Selasa, everyone going to be HAPPY... Dan di milis kalau pengen TEBAK2an juga RAME, KAPAN kira2 ANTM nyampe ke 5000? Apakah minggu depan? Bulan depan? Atau malah tahun depan? Padahal harganya saat ini KURANG DIKI.. Disinilah KETEGANGANNYA Tambah TEGANG tambah ASYIK. Hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Kita semua tahu antm AKAN ke 5000...tapi setelah itu Pak Oen? Hasil intipnya bagi2 dong boss...hehehehe
[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM FAMILY ---- CAREFULLY !!!
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See TINS and INCO No one CARE of it again, after 'BANDAR' sell all their STOCK. ANTM target price Rp.2.600,- BUMI target price Rp. 2.500,- SMCB target price Rp. 800,- The stock will not reach Rp.5.000,- JACK SIP : TBUMI Makanya jangan masuk ke TINS. Kalau INCO masih jangan khwatir, saham INCO masih bagus, cuma harganya tak terjangkau sama pemain kelas menengah kebawah. INCO utk pemain bos besar saja. - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapan TBLA bisa ngebut kayak ANTM yak? On Nov 23, 2007 5:35 AM, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIP : TBUMI Lahan kebunnya kurang luas utk arena balap mobil. Jadi bersabar dululah TBLA.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
Kalo saya lebih penasaran apa yg akan terjadi SETELAH 5000, di milis belakangan ini kan seru antara antm praiser vs. antm basher...Masing2 punya argumen kenapa antm mesti naik/turun (kecuali pak tbumi kali yah? Soalnya beliau yg narik! hahahaha) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. Rei, Saat ini kita liat aja permainan BOZZ di ANTM sampai hari Selasa. Sengaja saya posting hari gini. Biar BOZZ juga ada waktu untuk berpikir sekalian ngumpulin para dewa dewi raja and ratu segala untuk RAPAT. Toh kalau ANTM 5000 beneran pada hari Senin/Selasa, everyone going to be HAPPY... Dan di milis kalau pengen TEBAK2an juga RAME, KAPAN kira2 ANTM nyampe ke 5000? Apakah minggu depan? Bulan depan? Atau malah tahun depan? Padahal harganya saat ini KURANG DIKI.. Disinilah KETEGANGANNYA Tambah TEGANG tambah ASYIK. Hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Kita semua tahu antm AKAN ke 5000...tapi setelah itu Pak Oen? Hasil intipnya bagi2 dong boss...hehehehe
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
P. Rei, Saat ini kita liat aja permainan BOZZ di ANTM sampai hari Selasa. Sengaja saya posting hari gini. Biar BOZZ juga ada waktu untuk berpikir sekalian ngumpulin para dewa dewi raja and ratu segala untuk RAPAT. Toh kalau ANTM 5000 beneran pada hari Senin/Selasa, everyone going to be HAPPY... Dan di milis kalau pengen TEBAK2an juga RAME, KAPAN kira2 ANTM nyampe ke 5000? Apakah minggu depan? Bulan depan? Atau malah tahun depan? Padahal harganya saat ini KURANG DIKI.. Disinilah KETEGANGANNYA Tambah TEGANG tambah ASYIK. Hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kita semua tahu antm AKAN ke 5000...tapi setelah itu Pak Oen? Hasil intipnya bagi2 dong boss...hehehehe
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Januar Ingga Bayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya newbie disini. Mohon dijelaskan hubungan antara suku bunga FED dengan harga ANTM. Apakah perubahan suku bunga BI juga akan punya pengaruh yang sama?? Matur nuwun. SIP : TBUMI Kinerja ANTM sangat baik di saat ini dan juga waktu yang akan datang dgn hadirnya proyek besar bersama partner luar negeri. Kalau bunga the FED turun, maka banyak fund manager pindahi sebagian dana deposito ke saham yg lebih menguntungkan. Biasanya bunga BI bisa ikut turun, jika bunga the FED turun. - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Perhatikan antm, menjelang penutupan naik sedikit2 4500..4525..4550..4575..4600! Akankah berlanjut? Pak tbumi in action!!! SIP : TBUMI Kalau semua pemain ikut borong ANTM dan tak ada yg panik sell di saat index regional merah, maka kesempatan ANTM naik lebih cepat juga. Pemain besar juga mulai cerdas dan mulai simpan saham ini utk jangka panjang, karena bisa untung berlimpahan. Kalau prospek sahamnya bagus, siapa yg mau jual murah saham tsb. Anda jual saham ANTM saat ini dan pindah ke saham X, belum tentu saham X prospeknya bisa sebagus ANTM. Market akan membuktikan kejayaan saham ini masih bisa berlanjut. Hanya tinggal sekitar 8% lagi bisa tembus Rp. 5000. Kalau the FED jadi turuni bunga di bulan depan, maka ANTM bisa tembus diatas Rp. 5000 di bulan depan. Bersyukurlah semua pihak juga diuntungkan dgn kenaikan tsb. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laven_28 laven_28@ wrote: Apa Nickel masih ada harapan ke 50rb lagi? pabrik baru makin tambah, sedangkan demand kan kemungkinan turun dengan adanya perlambatan ekonomi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow rudi.suwandi@ wrote: ok. aq setuju pak TBUMI , pengen kash sinyal kalo nikel rebound ke 50.000 antm bakal high fly.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Statistik OKE
Pak ALX untuk liburan Amrik... ada PRE HOLIDAY effect...mungkin membantu... Thanks The Pre-Holiday Effect Over the past century, there have been nine holidays during which the Exchanges have traditionally been closed. Historical research shows that stock prices often behave in a specific manner in each of the two trading days preceding these holidays. By becoming aware of this behavior, both short-term traders and longer-term investors can benefit. The general strategy is to purchase equities one or two days prior to a holiday. Short-term traders would look to sell just after the holiday while longer-term investors would wait until year end. Both strategies have proven to be profitable plays. The theory behind this effect is that traders are lightening up their holdings (selling) prior to the three day holiday in order to avoid any unexpected bad news. The selling pressure drives stock prices down, making those days a good opportunity for buying lower in the range. Here is the average pre-holiday results for the last 50 years, based on the SP 500 Index: Holiday Buy two days before, sell at year end !!Buy one day before, sell at year end President's Day*-0.1% 12.2% Good Friday 7.3% 17.8% Memorial Day-4.7% 22.8% Independence Day13.3% 37.3% Labor Day 16.8% 33.7% Election Day17.9% 4.6% Thanksgiving4.3% 1.1% Christmas -7.1% 15.2% New Year's 31.1% 19.6% *Note: President's Day data is comprised of the aggregate of both Washington and Lincoln's Birthday prior to 1998. The original research was based on the behavior of the SP 500 Index around the 419 holiday market closings that occurred from 1928 to 1975. To put those returns in perspective, if you had invested $10,000 in the SP 500 Index in January 1928 and sold it all in December 1975, you would have ended up with $51,441. However, if you had invested one-ninth of your money just before each pre-holiday period (selling everything at the end of the year), you would have finished with $1,440,716. Not bad! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memperhatikan statistik memang sering perlu banget Sebelum libur Thanksgiving... saya sempet lihat ulasan di CNBC bahwa dalam 5 atau 6 tahun terakhir.. DOW selalu ditutup merah sehari sebelum libur Thanksgiving... dan selalu ditutup hijau pada saat kembali aktif di hari Jum'atnya... -- Salam ALX
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA
other alternative reduce the cogs terutama komponen cost terbesarnya. On 11/23/07, kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1000% saya setuju Mbah, fundamental jadi tiada arti juga, memang per sektor yg naik unggulan tapi harga apa tidak melebihi harga fundamentalnya? tetapi secara bandarmologi saya bisa mengerti seandainya ANTM dan BUMI dipakai buat ngejar ISAT. kalo secara fundamental agak ragu ANTM akan ditarik lagi sebab pendapatan 2008 tidak akan lebih baik dari tahun ini, kecuali capex/ akuisisi yg dapat menambah pendapatan tahun depan. kalo BUMI memang harga batubara naik di tahun mendatang. menurut saya ttg ANTM berilah ulasan spt Kang Ocoy, Mas Eka yg lainnya, terlepas dari harga tidak sesuai ulasan, dan janganlah saling ejek (seandainya ada yg begitu) peace salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA Kita pake penggaris GOCENG yg panjangnya 3 bulan dan kita hubungkan LOW POINT pada index maka kita dapatkan garis TRENDLINE SUPPORT: Kita dapatkan IHSG sudah menembus garis trend. Tapi coba kita test pada COMPONENT IHSG, kita dapatkan: YG MASIH DALAM TREND: = - MINING - AGRICULTURE - Basic Industry YG TRENDNYA TEMBUS KEBAWAH: === - Miscelaneous Industry - Consumer - Property: bearish trend - Infrastructure: bearish trend - Finance - Trade - Manufacture Terlihat COMPONENT IHSG sebenarnya sudah menembus garis TRENDLINE kecuali index pada sektor yg berhubungan dengan batubara, minyak, gas, mas, commodity dan kelapa sawit... So IHSG is SAVED by oil price crisis and gold price hike because people hunt for gold in the period of inflation and possible recession.. Pada kondisi ini, sepertinya IHSG menjadi tidak RELEVANT lagi untuk mengukur Ekonomi sektor RIEL atau dijadikan patokan Investasi dibursa. IHSG mau ke 3000 atau 2400 menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA... Index SEKTORALlah yg lebih MEWAKILI barometer keadaan ekonomi karena menjadi LUCU kalo IHSG NAIK sedangkan sektor produksi, industri, perbankan, property, keuangan dan perdagangan malah LOYO...
[obrolan-bandar] ANTM FAMILY ---- CAREFULLY !!!
See TINS and INCO No one CARE of it again, after 'BANDAR' sell all their STOCK. ANTM target price Rp.2.600,- BUMI target price Rp. 2.500,- SMCB target price Rp. 800,- The stock will not reach Rp.5.000,- JACK - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] Learning from a BOXER...Re: How Smart Money THINK to mr.Oen
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, nova_somewhere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Oen,sy msh sangat NEWBIE,sdg berusaha keras utk mempelajari memahami tulisan2 bpk.Kebetulan sy memperhatikan PTRA bbrp hari terakhir,ada yg aneh di volume OFFER.di hrg tertentu tiba2 dipasang offer 5-10 x lipat dari offer rata2 harga lainnya,TAPI dlm sekejap offer tsb dimakan.Apa itu hanya TRIK untuk menaikkan volume? APA MAKSUDNYA PAK? Mohon pencerahannya.Tks Terus terang saya tunggu selama seminggu, keliatannya BD PTRA langsung TIARAP... Yang jelas teknik tsb berniat melakukan PENJUALAN dalam JUMLAH BESAR! Padahal di monitor terlihat offer besar yang DIMAKAN? BELI kok malah dikatain JUALAN??? Hehehe... Lain kali aja kalau teknik begini MUNCUL lagi kita JEPRET bareng2... Nggak ada contohnya nggak asyik Rgrds
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, people are talking over which ANTM n BUMI is better. Both are definitively good. The question is which between ANTM n BUMI will reach 6000 first? Who replies? Me... I bet ANTM too...more faster than BUMI BUT...my feeling ANTM will not REACH 5000 until Tuesday... Tak kasih waktu 2 hari kepada BD ANTM SAAT INI untuk BEKERJA. Biar berbeda dengan Ratu Lara Jonggrang yg ngasih waktu cuman SEMALEM buat Bandung Bondowoso. No Offence... This just FEELING Analysis... KMIIRIGHT Oentoeng
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900
Kapan TBLA bisa ngebut kayak ANTM yak? On Nov 23, 2007 5:35 AM, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[obrolan-bandar] ISAT Data
Apa ISAT itu masuk bursa Maret 2004 ya? Di yahoo cuma sampe segitu soalnya. Di bloomberg, belum nemu cara nyari data stock sekian tahun ke belakang
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
Nyambung dikit masalah fear: saya kutip dari buku : Who Moved My Cheese When You Move Beyond Your FEAR, You Feel FREE. Trus tentang 21 nya Kang Ocoy, menurut numorologi angka 21 itu bagus banget lho, coba 21 Cineplex trus Black Jack kan 21 juga. rgds On 11/23/07, Jacky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fear when people greedy greedy when people fear
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Statistik OKE
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak ALX untuk liburan Amrik... ada PRE HOLIDAY effect...mungkin membantu... Thanks The Pre-Holiday Effect Over the past century, there have been nine holidays during which the Exchanges have traditionally been closed. Historical research shows that stock prices often behave in a specific manner in each of the two trading days preceding these holidays. By becoming aware of this behavior, both short-term traders and longer-term investors can benefit. The general strategy is to purchase equities one or two days prior to a holiday. Short-term traders would look to sell just after the holiday while longer-term investors would wait until year end. Both strategies have proven to be profitable plays. The theory behind this effect is that traders are lightening up their holdings (selling) prior to the three day holiday in order to avoid any unexpected bad news. The selling pressure drives stock prices down, making those days a good opportunity for buying lower in the range. Here is the average pre-holiday results for the last 50 years, based on the SP 500 Index: Holiday Buy two days before, sell at year end !!Buy one day before, sell at year end President's Day*-0.1% 12.2% Good Friday 7.3% 17.8% Memorial Day -4.7% 22.8% Independence Day13.3% 37.3% Labor Day 16.8% 33.7% Election Day 17.9% 4.6% Thanksgiving 4.3% 1.1% Christmas -7.1% 15.2% New Year's31.1% 19.6% *Note: President's Day data is comprised of the aggregate of both Washington and Lincoln's Birthday prior to 1998. The original research was based on the behavior of the SP 500 Index around the 419 holiday market closings that occurred from 1928 to 1975. To put those returns in perspective, if you had invested $10,000 in the SP 500 Index in January 1928 and sold it all in December 1975, you would have ended up with $51,441. However, if you had invested one-ninth of your money just before each pre-holiday period (selling everything at the end of the year), you would have finished with $1,440,716. Not bad! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ALX alxtrader@ wrote: Memperhatikan statistik memang sering perlu banget Sebelum libur Thanksgiving... saya sempet lihat ulasan di CNBC bahwa dalam 5 atau 6 tahun terakhir.. DOW selalu ditutup merah sehari sebelum libur Thanksgiving... dan selalu ditutup hijau pada saat kembali aktif di hari Jum'atnya... -- Salam ALX SIP : TBUMI THANKSGIVING memang membuat penjualan meningkat di Market atau Dept. Store besar, dan tentunya membuat kinerja emiten tsb jadi hijau. Tapi barang yg dijual tsb adalah kebanyakan barang sudah tak laku, di tanah air disebut cuci gudang saja. Barang tsb dijual modal saja. Tapi penurunan bunga the FED sudah mulai menguat, agar supaya ekonomi USA bisa bergairah kembali. Pemerintah USA sangat alergi sekali kalau ekonominya tak bisa tumbuh di dunia.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] . Tanya permainan closing
Gak Pak, closingnya tetap 1025, jadi trx kita done di 1025 On Nov 23, 2007 8:59 PM, Teh Qia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bbrp hari lalu mbah ngasih ilustrasi permainan harga closing. blm ngerti. misal ada antrian offer spt 1025 1050 1075 1100 lalu pd detik terakhir kita order beli 1 lot di 1100 done. apakah closing pricenya jd 1100? even ada offer di 1025.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM FAMILY ---- CAREFULLY !!!
Ah...Mr. Jack ini suka ngasih saran kebalik balik, semua orang udah tahu kalo dia ngasih saran SELL artinya BUY kalo dia ngasih saran BUY artinya SELL Trim's --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See TINS and INCO No one CARE of it again, after 'BANDAR' sell all their STOCK. ANTM target price Rp.2.600,- BUMI target price Rp. 2.500,- SMCB target price Rp. 800,- The stock will not reach Rp.5.000,- JACK - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Coba Coba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setahu saya ANTAM sedang siap-siap akuisisi tambang emas untuk menaikkan kembali kontribusi penjualan emas mereka yang telah melorot. Target utama mereka 10% saham Newmont Nusa Tenggara. Kendalanya, sejauh ini ESDM minta siapa saja yang mau membeli saham Newmont mesti menggandeng pemerintah daerah. Pesaing ANTM dalam rebutan emas Newmont ini BUMI dan DEWA. DEWA sudah dapat gandengan sedangkan ANTM masih cari pasangan pemda (pemrov NTB, pemkab Sumbawa, pemkab Sumbawa Barat) On Nov 23, 2007 10:17 PM, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIP : TBUMI Memang pendapat anda benar. Kalau DEWA tak mungkin bisa masuk ke Newmont. Mungkin ini sudah diatur : Temasek sengaja ditendang keluar dari komunikasi, dan nanti group Bakrie BTEL masuk ke komunikasi gantii Temasek. Sedang BUMI diminta mundur dari Newmont dan nanti biar ANTM yg masuk ke Newmont saja. Ini menurut pendapat kami. Yang saya curiga.. keperkasaan ANTM bukan hanya dari pendapatan. Ada beberapa hal yang bisa merubah sentimen thd satu saham (dlm hal ini antm): 1. Earning 2. harga komoditi 3. Corporate Action/akusisi/project 4. Regulasi Poin 1 dan 2 bisa dilihat secara mudah Nah poin 3 dan 4 ini yang kadang jadi faktor X dan permainan insider... hm hm hmm ANTM, mau ada apa ya... soalnya kalau cuma poin 1 dan 2 kayanya nggak mungkin sesakti ini... Regards, DE On Nov 23, 2007 9:59 PM, kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1000% saya setuju Mbah, fundamental jadi tiada arti juga, memang per sektor yg naik unggulan tapi harga apa tidak melebihi harga fundamentalnya? tetapi secara bandarmologi saya bisa mengerti seandainya ANTM dan BUMI dipakai buat ngejar ISAT. kalo secara fundamental agak ragu ANTM akan ditarik lagi sebab pendapatan 2008 tidak akan lebih baik dari tahun ini, kecuali capex/ akuisisi yg dapat menambah pendapatan tahun depan. kalo BUMI memang harga batubara naik di tahun mendatang. menurut saya ttg ANTM berilah ulasan spt Kang Ocoy, Mas Eka yg lainnya, terlepas dari harga tidak sesuai ulasan, dan janganlah saling ejek (seandainya ada yg begitu) peace salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA Kita pake penggaris GOCENG yg panjangnya 3 bulan dan kita hubungkan LOW POINT pada index maka kita dapatkan garis TRENDLINE SUPPORT: Kita dapatkan IHSG sudah menembus garis trend. Tapi coba kita test pada COMPONENT IHSG, kita dapatkan: YG MASIH DALAM TREND: = - MINING - AGRICULTURE - Basic Industry YG TRENDNYA TEMBUS KEBAWAH: === - Miscelaneous Industry - Consumer - Property: bearish trend - Infrastructure: bearish trend - Finance - Trade - Manufacture Terlihat COMPONENT IHSG sebenarnya sudah menembus garis TRENDLINE kecuali index pada sektor yg berhubungan dengan batubara, minyak, gas, mas, commodity dan kelapa sawit... So IHSG is SAVED by oil price crisis and gold price hike because people hunt for gold in the period of inflation and possible recession.. Pada kondisi ini, sepertinya IHSG menjadi tidak RELEVANT lagi untuk mengukur Ekonomi sektor RIEL atau dijadikan patokan Investasi dibursa. IHSG mau ke 3000 atau 2400 menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA... Index SEKTORALlah yg lebih MEWAKILI barometer keadaan ekonomi karena menjadi LUCU kalo IHSG NAIK sedangkan sektor produksi, industri, perbankan, property, keuangan dan perdagangan malah LOYO...
[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM FAMILY ---- CAREFULLY !!!
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, lk_manz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah...Mr. Jack ini suka ngasih saran kebalik balik, semua orang udah tahu kalo dia ngasih saran SELL artinya BUY kalo dia ngasih saran BUY artinya SELL Trim's SIP : TBUMI Kalau mau kasih harga ANTM di Rp. 2600, mesti berpikir secara logika dulu, apa mungkin. Disaat bursa regional merah beberapa hari dulu, dibawah harga Rp. 4000 saja belum bisa terjadi. Terkecuali anda ada barang lebih banyak dari kami, , itu baru bisa. Tapi jangan lupa, begitu harga dibawah Rp. 4000 kami selalu ada dana cadangan utk tampung barang murah. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok jackcowok2@ wrote: See TINS and INCO No one CARE of it again, after 'BANDAR' sell all their STOCK. ANTM target price Rp.2.600,- BUMI target price Rp. 2.500,- SMCB target price Rp. 800,- The stock will not reach Rp.5.000,- JACK - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
tp antm naek ttp lebih favourable donk, banyak yg dapet rejeki soalnya kalo iya.. he2.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo saya lebih penasaran apa yg akan terjadi SETELAH 5000, di milis belakangan ini kan seru antara antm praiser vs. antm basher...Masing2 punya argumen kenapa antm mesti naik/turun (kecuali pak tbumi kali yah? Soalnya beliau yg narik! hahahaha) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ wrote: P. Rei, Saat ini kita liat aja permainan BOZZ di ANTM sampai hari Selasa. Sengaja saya posting hari gini. Biar BOZZ juga ada waktu untuk berpikir sekalian ngumpulin para dewa dewi raja and ratu segala untuk RAPAT. Toh kalau ANTM 5000 beneran pada hari Senin/Selasa, everyone going to be HAPPY... Dan di milis kalau pengen TEBAK2an juga RAME, KAPAN kira2 ANTM nyampe ke 5000? Apakah minggu depan? Bulan depan? Atau malah tahun depan? Padahal harganya saat ini KURANG DIKI.. Disinilah KETEGANGANNYA Tambah TEGANG tambah ASYIK. Hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Kita semua tahu antm AKAN ke 5000...tapi setelah itu Pak Oen? Hasil intipnya bagi2 dong boss...hehehehe
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So pasti dong, antm 5000 banyak yg senang cuan (kecil, sedang, besar super besar...yg terakhir cuma milik pak tbumi :p) Tapi saya toh cuma hold... SIP : tbumi Harga saham ANTM bisa terjangkau sama semua kelas : atas,menengah dan bawah. Kalau INCO, bayangi saja 1 LOT sudah hampir Rp. 50 juta. Sedang ANTM 1 LOT baru Rp. 2'325'000. Bedanya sangat besar sekali utk golongan pemain bukan bos besar. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kang_ocoy_maen_saham kang_ocoy_maen_saham@ wrote: tp antm naek ttp lebih favourable donk, banyak yg dapet rejeki soalnya kalo iya.. he2.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Kalo saya lebih penasaran apa yg akan terjadi SETELAH 5000, di milis belakangan ini kan seru antara antm praiser vs. antm basher...Masing2 punya argumen kenapa antm mesti naik/turun (kecuali pak tbumi kali yah? Soalnya beliau yg narik! hahahaha) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ wrote: P. Rei, Saat ini kita liat aja permainan BOZZ di ANTM sampai hari Selasa. Sengaja saya posting hari gini. Biar BOZZ juga ada waktu untuk berpikir sekalian ngumpulin para dewa dewi raja and ratu segala untuk RAPAT. Toh kalau ANTM 5000 beneran pada hari Senin/Selasa, everyone going to be HAPPY... Dan di milis kalau pengen TEBAK2an juga RAME, KAPAN kira2 ANTM nyampe ke 5000? Apakah minggu depan? Bulan depan? Atau malah tahun depan? Padahal harganya saat ini KURANG DIKI.. Disinilah KETEGANGANNYA Tambah TEGANG tambah ASYIK. Hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Kita semua tahu antm AKAN ke 5000...tapi setelah itu Pak Oen? Hasil intipnya bagi2 dong boss...hehehehe
[obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
Kita semua tahu antm AKAN ke 5000...tapi setelah itu Pak Oen? Hasil intipnya bagi2 dong boss...hehehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA RATUSIMA@ wrote: Btw, people are talking over which ANTM n BUMI is better. Both are definitively good. The question is which between ANTM n BUMI will reach 6000 first? Who replies? Me... I bet ANTM too...more faster than BUMI BUT...my feeling ANTM will not REACH 5000 until Tuesday... Tak kasih waktu 2 hari kepada BD ANTM SAAT INI untuk BEKERJA. Biar berbeda dengan Ratu Lara Jonggrang yg ngasih waktu cuman SEMALEM buat Bandung Bondowoso. No Offence... This just FEELING Analysis... KMIIRIGHT Oentoeng
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM
Saya newbie disini. Mohon dijelaskan hubungan antara suku bunga FED dengan harga ANTM. Apakah perubahan suku bunga BI juga akan punya pengaruh yang sama?? Matur nuwun. - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Solidarity for ANTM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhatikan antm, menjelang penutupan naik sedikit2 4500..4525..4550..4575..4600! Akankah berlanjut? Pak tbumi in action!!! SIP : TBUMI Kalau semua pemain ikut borong ANTM dan tak ada yg panik sell di saat index regional merah, maka kesempatan ANTM naik lebih cepat juga. Pemain besar juga mulai cerdas dan mulai simpan saham ini utk jangka panjang, karena bisa untung berlimpahan. Kalau prospek sahamnya bagus, siapa yg mau jual murah saham tsb. Anda jual saham ANTM saat ini dan pindah ke saham X, belum tentu saham X prospeknya bisa sebagus ANTM. Market akan membuktikan kejayaan saham ini masih bisa berlanjut. Hanya tinggal sekitar 8% lagi bisa tembus Rp. 5000. Kalau the FED jadi turuni bunga di bulan depan, maka ANTM bisa tembus diatas Rp. 5000 di bulan depan. Bersyukurlah semua pihak juga diuntungkan dgn kenaikan tsb. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laven_28 laven_28@ wrote: Apa Nickel masih ada harapan ke 50rb lagi? pabrik baru makin tambah, sedangkan demand kan kemungkinan turun dengan adanya perlambatan ekonomi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Junior Jack Sparrow rudi.suwandi@ wrote: ok. aq setuju pak TBUMI , pengen kash sinyal kalo nikel rebound ke 50.000 antm bakal high fly.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM FAMILY ---- CAREFULLY !!
Kapan? Kalau bener ANTM jadi Rp.2.600, saya mau jual CARRY biar nanti kalau jadi Rp.8.000 bisa buat beli CAMRY. On 11/24/07, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See TINS and INCO No one CARE of it again, after 'BANDAR' sell all their STOCK. ANTM target price Rp.2.600,-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA
Setahu saya ANTAM sedang siap-siap akuisisi tambang emas untuk menaikkan kembali kontribusi penjualan emas mereka yang telah melorot. Target utama mereka 10% saham Newmont Nusa Tenggara. Kendalanya, sejauh ini ESDM minta siapa saja yang mau membeli saham Newmont mesti menggandeng pemerintah daerah. Pesaing ANTM dalam rebutan emas Newmont ini BUMI dan DEWA. DEWA sudah dapat gandengan sedangkan ANTM masih cari pasangan pemda (pemrov NTB, pemkab Sumbawa, pemkab Sumbawa Barat) On Nov 23, 2007 10:17 PM, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang saya curiga.. keperkasaan ANTM bukan hanya dari pendapatan. Ada beberapa hal yang bisa merubah sentimen thd satu saham (dlm hal ini antm): 1. Earning 2. harga komoditi 3. Corporate Action/akusisi/project 4. Regulasi Poin 1 dan 2 bisa dilihat secara mudah Nah poin 3 dan 4 ini yang kadang jadi faktor X dan permainan insider... hm hm hmm ANTM, mau ada apa ya... soalnya kalau cuma poin 1 dan 2 kayanya nggak mungkin sesakti ini... Regards, DE On Nov 23, 2007 9:59 PM, kangduren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1000% saya setuju Mbah, fundamental jadi tiada arti juga, memang per sektor yg naik unggulan tapi harga apa tidak melebihi harga fundamentalnya? tetapi secara bandarmologi saya bisa mengerti seandainya ANTM dan BUMI dipakai buat ngejar ISAT. kalo secara fundamental agak ragu ANTM akan ditarik lagi sebab pendapatan 2008 tidak akan lebih baik dari tahun ini, kecuali capex/ akuisisi yg dapat menambah pendapatan tahun depan. kalo BUMI memang harga batubara naik di tahun mendatang. menurut saya ttg ANTM berilah ulasan spt Kang Ocoy, Mas Eka yg lainnya, terlepas dari harga tidak sesuai ulasan, dan janganlah saling ejek (seandainya ada yg begitu) peace salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA Kita pake penggaris GOCENG yg panjangnya 3 bulan dan kita hubungkan LOW POINT pada index maka kita dapatkan garis TRENDLINE SUPPORT: Kita dapatkan IHSG sudah menembus garis trend. Tapi coba kita test pada COMPONENT IHSG, kita dapatkan: YG MASIH DALAM TREND: = - MINING - AGRICULTURE - Basic Industry YG TRENDNYA TEMBUS KEBAWAH: === - Miscelaneous Industry - Consumer - Property: bearish trend - Infrastructure: bearish trend - Finance - Trade - Manufacture Terlihat COMPONENT IHSG sebenarnya sudah menembus garis TRENDLINE kecuali index pada sektor yg berhubungan dengan batubara, minyak, gas, mas, commodity dan kelapa sawit... So IHSG is SAVED by oil price crisis and gold price hike because people hunt for gold in the period of inflation and possible recession.. Pada kondisi ini, sepertinya IHSG menjadi tidak RELEVANT lagi untuk mengukur Ekonomi sektor RIEL atau dijadikan patokan Investasi dibursa. IHSG mau ke 3000 atau 2400 menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA... Index SEKTORALlah yg lebih MEWAKILI barometer keadaan ekonomi karena menjadi LUCU kalo IHSG NAIK sedangkan sektor produksi, industri, perbankan, property, keuangan dan perdagangan malah LOYO...
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM
Biar makin NgeJOS ;-) Soalnya hasil riset yg laen udah ke laut semua alias udah gak relevan lagi... cuma ini yg masih relevan he he he -- Salam ALX™ On 11/22/07, ALX™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Target Price ANTM Rel Date Broker TP Recomm 02/07/07 KZ 2,320 Sell 05/09/07 ML 1,501 Sell 17/10/07 Citigroup 3,125 Sell 20/11/07 DX 4,650 Add * dari berbagai sumber Salam ALX™
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA
Oh ya, di HOTS etrading juga ada tuh.. Tenkai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Di JSX ada, pak hmin.. Tinggal di download. hmin918 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw... kita bisa lihat isi dari setiap sector dari mana ya ?? Thanks dulu sebelumnya --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA Kita pake penggaris GOCENG yg panjangnya 3 bulan dan kita hubungkan LOW POINT pada index maka kita dapatkan garis TRENDLINE SUPPORT: Kita dapatkan IHSG sudah menembus garis trend. Tapi coba kita test pada COMPONENT IHSG, kita dapatkan: YG MASIH DALAM TREND: = - MINING - AGRICULTURE - Basic Industry YG TRENDNYA TEMBUS KEBAWAH: === - Miscelaneous Industry - Consumer - Property: bearish trend - Infrastructure: bearish trend - Finance - Trade - Manufacture Terlihat COMPONENT IHSG sebenarnya sudah menembus garis TRENDLINE kecuali index pada sektor yg berhubungan dengan batubara, minyak, gas, mas, commodity dan kelapa sawit... So IHSG is SAVED by oil price crisis and gold price hike because people hunt for gold in the period of inflation and possible recession.. Pada kondisi ini, sepertinya IHSG menjadi tidak RELEVANT lagi untuk mengukur Ekonomi sektor RIEL atau dijadikan patokan Investasi dibursa. IHSG mau ke 3000 atau 2400 menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA... Index SEKTORALlah yg lebih MEWAKILI barometer keadaan ekonomi karena menjadi LUCU kalo IHSG NAIK sedangkan sektor produksi, industri, perbankan, property, keuangan dan perdagangan malah LOYO... - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA
Di JSX ada, pak hmin.. Tinggal di download. hmin918 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw... kita bisa lihat isi dari setiap sector dari mana ya ?? Thanks dulu sebelumnya --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA Kita pake penggaris GOCENG yg panjangnya 3 bulan dan kita hubungkan LOW POINT pada index maka kita dapatkan garis TRENDLINE SUPPORT: Kita dapatkan IHSG sudah menembus garis trend. Tapi coba kita test pada COMPONENT IHSG, kita dapatkan: YG MASIH DALAM TREND: = - MINING - AGRICULTURE - Basic Industry YG TRENDNYA TEMBUS KEBAWAH: === - Miscelaneous Industry - Consumer - Property: bearish trend - Infrastructure: bearish trend - Finance - Trade - Manufacture Terlihat COMPONENT IHSG sebenarnya sudah menembus garis TRENDLINE kecuali index pada sektor yg berhubungan dengan batubara, minyak, gas, mas, commodity dan kelapa sawit... So IHSG is SAVED by oil price crisis and gold price hike because people hunt for gold in the period of inflation and possible recession.. Pada kondisi ini, sepertinya IHSG menjadi tidak RELEVANT lagi untuk mengukur Ekonomi sektor RIEL atau dijadikan patokan Investasi dibursa. IHSG mau ke 3000 atau 2400 menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA... Index SEKTORALlah yg lebih MEWAKILI barometer keadaan ekonomi karena menjadi LUCU kalo IHSG NAIK sedangkan sektor produksi, industri, perbankan, property, keuangan dan perdagangan malah LOYO... - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
[obrolan-bandar] The decline in the subprime mortgage market ``is over'' because the market ``went to zero and cannot go any further,'' Greenspan said
U.S. Stocks Rise; Wal-Mart, General Electric, Citigroup Gain By Eric Martin Nov. 23 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks climbed, limiting the week's losses, as shoppers packed department stores on the first day of the holiday shopping season and investors speculated a weak dollar will make exports more competitive. Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Target Corp. and J.C. Penney Co. gained as shoppers headed to stores for ``Black Friday'' sales. General Electric Co., the world's biggest maker of jet engines, paced an advance of exporters as the dollar traded near a record low against the euro. Citigroup Inc. rose for the first time in six days on a report that U.S. banks are ready to move forward with a plan to revive credit markets with a so-called superfund to buy assets from structured investment vehicles. The Standard Poor's 500 Index added 23.18, or 1.6 percent, to 1,439.95 at 12:48 p.m. in New York, paring the week's loss to 0.8 percent. The Dow Jones Industrial Average increased 159.57, or 1.3 percent, to 12,958.61 and is down 1.2 percent for the week. The Nasdaq Composite Index rose 37.28, or 1.5 percent, to 2,599.43, cutting its weekly drop to 0.7 percent. About nine stocks gained for every one that fell on the New York Stock Exchange. Some 452 million shares traded on the Big Board, half as many as a week ago, ahead of a 1 p.m. close. ``The fact that Black Friday is not a disaster and is off to a modest but healthy start is just a relief,'' said Mark Bronzo, who helps manage $500 million at Nationwide Separate Accounts in Irvington, New York. ``The scenario we've all been operating under for the last several months is that the retail world is coming to an end. That's not the case.'' Yearly Gain Today's rally pushed the SP 500 to a 1.5 percent advance for the year after a drop on Nov. 21 wiped out the benchmark's 2007 gain. Retailers in the index have fallen 17 percent as a group this year on concern that rising energy prices and slumping home values will depress spending. Retail shares in the SP 500 advanced 2.7 percent today with 29 of 30 companies gaining. Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, gained $1.38 to $46.24. Target, the second-biggest U.S. discounter, added $2.89 to $56.99. Sears Holdings Corp., the largest U.S. department- store chain, climbed $3.51 to $113.83. J.C. Penney Co., the third biggest, gained $1.42 to $41.49. ``It seems like there's a lot of traffic in the stores, so that's a positive,'' said Michael Nasto, senior trader at U.S. Global Investors Inc., which manages $5 billion in San Antonio. ``People might be thinking the sell-off we had the last few days was overdone.'' Exporters, Banks Gain General Electric added 43 cents to $37.60. Europe accounted for about one quarter of the company's net sales last year. International Business Machines Corp. rose $1.80 to $104.02. The world's second-biggest software maker generated more than half of its revenue outside of the Americas in 2006. Citigroup, the biggest U.S. bank, added 83 cents to $31.56. Citigroup, Bank of America Corp. and JPMorgan Chase Co., which have been putting together the plan to create the superfund, are likely to start asking other banks to sign up to specific financial terms next week, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter. Bank of America, the second-largest U.S. bank, gained 91 cents to $43.05. JPMorgan, the third-biggest, climbed $1.21 to $41.89. Wells Fargo Co., the second-largest U.S. mortgage lender, added $1.06 to $30.98. The plan is to create a fund amounting to $75 billion to $100 billion as a potential buyer of assets from structured investment vehicles, off-balance-sheet entities that have gotten into difficulties because of lack of liquidity in credit markets. So far, other banks have expressed informal interest, the newspaper said. Apple, E*Trade E*Trade Financial Corp. gained $1.09, or 26 percent, to $5.35. The second-worst-performing stock in the SP 500 this year rose on a CNBC report the online brokerage is in talks to sell itself or part of its business. Apple Inc. gained $2.89 to $171.35. The maker of the iPod music player agreed to pay $10 million to settle a patent- infringement lawsuit by Burst.com Inc. over technology that stores audio and video files. The settlement, which isn't yet final, provides Apple with a license to Burst.com's patents, plus a pledge that Burst won't sue Apple again over future patents, Burst said. Ford, GM Carmakers advanced after a report said the U.S. Congress may adopt separate fuel-efficiency standards for cars and sport- utility vehicles in order to help pass an energy bill this year. General Motors Corp., the largest U.S. automaker, rose 85 cents to $27.24. Ford Motor Co., the second-biggest, climbed 26 cents to $7.21. Democratic leaders have intensified talks with Republicans in an effort to find compromise legislation and
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: e-book
kang ocoy, saya juga mau dong, biar nggak dikerjain bandar terus - Original Message From: Aloysius Prihadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 5:22:38 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: e-book Pak/Ibu Cleos, mohon saya juga dimasukkan ke dalam daftar ya. Thanks a lot. --- Cleopatras Cat cleopatras.cats@ yahoo.de wrote: wah Kang Ocoy, kalo ga merepotkan e-book nya bisa di upload di milis. masih belajar terbang nih Kang, kadang mau hinggap di pohon takut pohon nya terlalu tinggi susah nanti nya. tenkiu Kang Ocoy. kang_ocoy_maen_ saham kang_ocoy_maen_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] com schrieb: suka baca buku valuasi ya pak??... sudah ada buku2nya Damodaran??. .. kalo belum dan ada mau sdikit bersusah2 belajar valuasi bisa dari buku2 dy tuh... dy metode valuasinya Moderat.. ga se-strict Value Investor sih.. tp banyak jd referensi tuh.. Heavily Recommended Pak, saya ada Damodaran On Valuation, Dark Side Of Valuation, sama Investment Fables... kalo pada mao mungkin bisa saya upload di section Files Milis ini... yah buat yg mo belajar FA sedikit lebih intense lg.. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, cipto_jh [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Biar tambah laris.. nubie ndaftar juga ahh.. tolong dikirimin juga ya pak/bu Cleo.. :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Dodik SUDIYONO sudiyono.dodik@ wrote: mas saya juga ikutan dong minta dikirimin e-booknya. thank Cleopatras Cat wrote: Ibu Ibu Bapak Bapak yang dah japri langsung, nanti malem ya kirimnya atawa besok subuh, e-book nya ada di kompie rumah. tenkiu juga dah pada nawarin e-book[s]. mari kita pinter rame rame biar cuan nya makin gede. Viele Gr・se! Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sieエs mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail http://de.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=40591/ *http://de. docs.yahoo. com/ymail/ landing.html. - - --- Jetzt Mails schnell in einem Vorschaufenster ・erfliegen. Dies und viel mehr bietet das neue Yahoo! Mail. _ _ _ _ _ _ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market Outlook, CPO,TLKM,etc
AALI nya kok ndak ada ? Rgrds, SLG On Nov 23, 2007 10:35 PM, Kalyana Mitta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARKET OUTLOOK Friday, November 23, 2007 Indonesia shares may continue to trade in a directionless mode amid an absence of fresh leads, with lingering concerns over high oil prices and weak rupiah weighing down overall sentiment. But, as happened yesterday, a local big fund may continue to support the main index to float above 2530 for investment maintenance. The central bank early next month (December 6) would likely keep its key interest rate unchanged at 8.25% to weather impacts from weak rupiah and limit inflationary pressure. Any surprise move of cutting the rate would be considered as a gift. The main index may go down and Up by 32 points. Main index: 2534-2604 R2: 2626 TLKM: 10,100-10,400. It must be stuck in this range for a temporary consolidation, with best buying remaining at any level below IDR9,950. Nothing much from the corporate side, but some officials at Telkom told me that the company is setting up a new investment plan for 2008, which includes plan of acquisition and expanding company's business to be more regional... ISAT: 8,200-8,900. Nine-month earnings came in very well on spot, beating most analysts forecast. KPPU's decision must make Indosat a target of acquisition by foreign companies. BUY on weakness BMRI: 3,250-3,475. Chart says it is oversold, with IDR3,200 has proven to a be a strong support. A 32.18% retrace at IDR3,625 may be tested within 12 sessions or so... PGAS: 15,700-16,400. Chart says it looks more than stable to hold the bullish trend intact. Buy at the lower end on the range as target of IDR19,000 would be faster than expected... ASII: 21,100-23,300 Profit taking may continue to fill in gap of between IDR21,600-21,900. Buy at the lower end of the range. Car sales have recovered gradually and may return normal next year amid hopes of lower interest rates environment. Talks over possible stock split are also heating the trading floor... ANTM: 4,250-4,500. London Metal Exchange base metals found some footing from the week's losses Thursday, except for LME lead and nickel, with conditions seen volatile until fresh direction emerges. LME nickel slipped to a fresh two-month low of $28,600 a metric ton. I am still with a BUY at the lower end of the range... BUMI: 4,000-4,500. It may remain in a consolidation mode and building volume. The 12-month target has been revised upward to IDR6,200 to confront with the company's robust business outlook. BUY on weakness or at any level below IDR4,000. SPECIAL MENTION: AGAIN: all shares in palm-oil related companies. CPO prices in the world market continue to rise. MONITORING: PTBA: 9,800-10,900 LSIP: 9,000-10,200 UNSP: 2,075-2,350 TBLA: 620-690 MEDC: 4900-5,600 CPRO: 440-540 buy ETWA: 390-450 MIRA: 500-740 spec buy Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Congrats to all of you!
Selamat ya yg udah pada cuan mo beli CRV boleh, mo nawar rumah pondok indah silakan, mo mandi kucing ngga dilarang... And we should say thank you to Trichet Bush of what they've done! Happy Cuan Untung jangan takabur, Rugi jangan lari.. JM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM
Jangan turun dulu lah pak DE. Saya abis TP nih Tapi gapapa, masih ada koq :D Khan udah di ajarin sama TBumi ;) On Nov 23, 2007 5:01 PM, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANTM itu nggak punya bottom kayanya... naik terusss 5000 akhir tahun? kayanya akhir bulan juga kena nih... hihi... apa senin besok? nickel turun aja antm kaya gini, apalagi kalo nickel naik... WEW! Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] MEDC : Good Bye APEX , Welcome Medco Global
(Kontan 24 Nov 07) Berdasarkan penjelasan tertulis manajemen Medco kpd BEJ , mereka akan menggelar RUPSLB pd tgl 27 Des 07 dgn agenda tunggal yaitu meminta persetujuan pemegang saham atas rencana penjualan Apexindo . Hilmi Panigoro , Direktur Utama Medco berjanji akan mengumumkan pemenangnya pada awal pekan depan .
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Congrats to all of you!
Eitss Jangan lupa Ada yang mesen gigi emas untuk neneknya Kalau pak JM mau pesen apa? On Nov 23, 2007 5:23 PM, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selamat ya yg udah pada cuan mo beli CRV boleh, mo nawar rumah pondok indah silakan, mo mandi kucing ngga dilarang... And we should say thank you to Trichet Bush of what they've done! Happy Cuan Untung jangan takabur, Rugi jangan lari.. JM
[obrolan-bandar] FAKTOR KENAPA BUNGA THE FED TURUN, DOWJ LAGI NAIK
Bisa juga rencana penurunan bunga THE FED sudah sampai di DOWJ, maka bursanya naik saat tulisan ini dibikin. Krisis mortgage di USA, kerugian bukan hanya di perbankan saja, bahkan sudah ribuan pegawai perbankan dan broker rumah sudah di PHK . Pemerintah takut masalah ini bisa mengoncang ke sektor lain, maka the FED segera ambil tindakan utk turuni bunga di bulan depan. Pemerintah bisa 2 kali rugi kalau tak ambil tindakan cepat dgn turuni bunga : - masalah pengganguran / PHK Ada kewajiban bagi pemerintah USA utk hidupi orang pengganguran (sang penggangur beserta seluruh anggota keluarganya) selama yg bersangkutan belum dpt kerjaan. Dikasih biaya hidup oleh pemerintah USA dan bahkan ada hak dpt asuransi kesehatan juga. - Tak ada pemasukan pajak dari sang pekerja Kalau orang tak ada kerjaan, tentu tak ada pembayaran pajak dari pegawai ke pemerintah. Tentu pemerintah tak ada pemasukan uang pajak dan bahkan kasih uang terus ke orang yg tak ada kerjaan. Maka THE FED tentu akan turuni bunga, agar ekonomi USA bisa bergairah kembali. Mengenai minyak yg naik, the FED tak ambil pusing karena cadangan minyak USA masih banyak dan minyak di Alaska yg belum diambil juga berlimpahan. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG menjadi KURANG BERMAKNA
RX sebagai konsultan keuangan ANTM, dan kebetulan megang banyak ANTM, hehehe. dr kemaren berani deh saya icip2 :D yg saya heran capex yg wah IDR 12T koq freeport ga dibahas, juga ga ada berita, kalo freeport yg diakuisisi sudah pasti pendapatan bertambah IDR 60-100 dapet lah dg capex IDR 4T mohon koreksi kalo salah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yang saya curiga.. keperkasaan ANTM bukan hanya dari pendapatan. Ada beberapa hal yang bisa merubah sentimen thd satu saham (dlm hal ini antm): 1. Earning 2. harga komoditi 3. Corporate Action/akusisi/project 4. Regulasi Poin 1 dan 2 bisa dilihat secara mudah Nah poin 3 dan 4 ini yang kadang jadi faktor X dan permainan insider... hm hm hmm ANTM, mau ada apa ya... soalnya kalau cuma poin 1 dan 2 kayanya nggak mungkin sesakti ini... Regards, DE
[obrolan-bandar] MEDC
MEDC bisa menembus IDR 5000 itu sudah bagus, tahulah kenapa, seandainya keadaan spt th 200..., mungkin. :hehehe btw balik ke FA, menurut saya penjualan APEX ada berperan negatif juga krn income berkurang, bagi saya MEDC masih bisa naik di tahun depan, apalagi kalau dana dari penjualan dipakai utk produksi gas. omong2 MEDC ada pabrik ethanol (atau metanol?), kalo ethanol itu harganya bisa naik banyak juga diperkirakan.
[obrolan-bandar] 23 Nov 07, DOW+87, Oil 96
bagaimana ini mengenai TA dan FA nya? saya penasaran kira2 DOW itu rebound, setelah para fund manager selesai itung loss atau, tunggu sinyal cut rate? salam
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, darma erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANTM mo ke 15.000 lagi abis itu stock split lagi, biar rejekinya merata geto lohh... MrJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sekurias TB itu memang gak ada . . . munkin mereka itu a group of friends trus masing keluarkan uang untuk invest di bursa . . . maybe begitu lah ... yg boleh di tanyain: apakah boleh gabung begitu loh ha ha ha --- Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada pak, tiap hari yg ngomongin antm terus siapa coba...TB(umi) hehehe Selamat pagi Pak tbumi. Job well done today. SIP : TBUMI Kami ada banyak rekening di sekuritas sehingga tak ada satu sekuritaspun atau pemain lain tahu kekuatan kami disaat terjadi transaksi. Bisa jadi juga ada stock split di tahun 2008, kalau harganya bisa tembus diatas Rp. 15000 nanti. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sbudianaY sbudiana@ wrote: Sekuritas TB setau saya ga ada tuh, ada yg tau ??? -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andri Wijaya Sent: 22 Nopember 2007 16:10 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price ANTM KZ recommend SELL tp buy sampe 500M, he. ketauan boongnya NI target ANTM 8500 dalam 12 bulan TB sekuritas target ANTM 5000 akhir tahun tau nggak TB itu sekuritas apa? he. On Nov 22, 2007 3:57 PM, ALXT alxtrader@ wrote: Target Price ANTM Rel Date Broker TP Recomm 02/07/07 KZ 2,320 Sell 05/09/07 ML 1,501 Sell 17/10/07 Citigroup 3,125 Sell 20/11/07 DX 4,650 Add * dari berbagai sumber Salam ALXT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.3/1144 - Release Date: 21/11/2007 16:28 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 7497 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len __ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] . Tanya permainan closing
bbrp hari lalu mbah ngasih ilustrasi permainan harga closing. blm ngerti. misal ada antrian offer spt 1025 1050 1075 1100 lalu pd detik terakhir kita order beli 1 lot di 1100 done. apakah closing pricenya jd 1100? even ada offer di 1025. mhn informasinya pls makasih
[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM FAMILY ---- CAREFULLY !!!
Shhtkalo sudah tahu gitu, ya sudah pak, jangan dibilang2 di sini. Ntar beneran diturunin lho...nggak jadi naik gara2 lalat2 muda terus berdatangan. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, lk_manz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah...Mr. Jack ini suka ngasih saran kebalik balik, semua orang udah tahu kalo dia ngasih saran SELL artinya BUY kalo dia ngasih saran BUY artinya SELL Trim's --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok jackcowok2@ wrote: See TINS and INCO No one CARE of it again, after 'BANDAR' sell all their STOCK. ANTM target price Rp.2.600,- BUMI target price Rp. 2.500,- SMCB target price Rp. 800,- The stock will not reach Rp.5.000,- JACK - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEDC kenapa stop ?
DASARnya anak manusia, kalau udah bosen sama duit, pasti pengen yang lain. Liat Panigoro. Dulu dia sempet maen politik. Kalau sekarang dia udah gak doyan politik entahlah, apa lagi. Perempuan??? Entahlah On Nov 23, 2007 2:58 PM, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MEDC itu saham mining yang paling LAGGARD di BEJ bahkan lebih lelet dari ANTM (dulu). Memang prospeknya bagus, tapi kalo gak gerak ya males juga kan... Krn apa? Krn yang punya (panigoro cs) itu sudah kaya raya, jadi gak perlu naikin sahamnya, dan kayaknya udah gak main politik lagi.. cmiiw... Sama aja kaya GGRM, perusahaan sehat, tapi yang punya udah gak butuh duit lagi... Regards, DE On Nov 23, 2007 7:02 PM, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MEDC, kenapa stop di 6300 ? ga ngerti deh.. padahal saya pikir: - Sekarang Oil price tambah naik. - APEX dijual apa tidak, pasti itu yang terbaik bagi MEDC. dijual sekarang dengan harga tinggi untung, dijual dengan harga rendah, pasti itu pilihan terbagus. Tidak dijual prospeknya juga bagus. - 7,8,9 November, bandar narik MEDC ke atas 6000, dan tidak ada pembuangan barang dengan volume berarti sesudahnya. - Apakah sekarang ini pullback ? saya pikir iya, karena volume turunnyanya nggak besar. Mungkin bandar ingin lebih banyak barang atau nurunin penumpang gelap. Minyak turun naik dikit sih rasanya ga efek untuk profit Q4, soalnya beberapa saat ini sudah konsisten di 90 ke atas - So, Selasa harapan saya sih MEDC bakal terbang kalau senin ditutup 5700. Kalau nggak, ya males beli lagi,, heheheh.. mending ngumpulin TLKM n JSMR lagi..
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BR: TBLA: THE RISING STAR AMONG THE SMALL CAP- TP 900
Kenapa harus di AVOID pak? mohon di-share alasannya, mungkin bisa menjadi pembelajaran buat saya yg masih newbie. apakah saham2 dibawah Seceng berarti saham busuk? kalau tidak salah, setahun yang lalu harga BUMI juga UNDER SECENG. rgds, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, darma erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bagi mereka yang baru belajar saham, BERHATI-HATILAH PADA YANG UNDER SECENG KAYA BEGINIAN avoid.avoid..!!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: newbie mo belajar saham???
wah! saingannya kang ocoy nih bisa2.. RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Jacky, It's different between playing Nikkei HS Index and playing stocks. There's a lot to learn so that you can make precise decision. Different stock different attitude. Depends on the issuer and market maker. Also trend and timing. If you wanna be successful, it's like when you build a house, you must build a strong grounded foundation. So it can buffer the above. But you can do learning by doing. Selectively pick up good growth stocks. Many have been mentioned. If market is bearish, it's a chance to buy and collect for future but choose the best stocks. It can go up back soon after market is brighter. Also RD. Buy when JKSE low and hold or sell when index soars so high. Love, Aimee - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Charisma Kang Ocoy
nah lho pak CC!! tanggung jawab tuh!! RATU SIMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. CC, Who is Elaine? Excuse me, I've just been joining for 1 month and not know all of people here. I've just graduated from college and spend my time investing. My Papa told me to learn from here coz he's too busy in a company. Can you tell me who elaine is and who is pedagang kentang. So weird name. Does it mean chip / blue chip trader? Uuuuh, clueless. Love, Aimee - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.
