Re: [obrolan-bandar] BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008
*Strangely, I see SALES on Danamon? COGS? What sales? Did they sell pizza or something?.. :) This is a joke, right? Elaine** * 2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Begitu juga Performance salah satu Blue Chip PERBANKAN yaitu BDMN, tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami DEGRADASI akibat krisis ekonomi global... Malah krisis ekonomi global memberikan kesempatan pada investor untuk belanja saham MURAH. PER BMDN = 12 pada harga Rp 5550. Terlampir: BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008 Regards OB helpdesk + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] stock split pgas
ada yang bisa kasi pencerahan kenapa PGAS kok displit ? wong harga juga cuman 11rbuan ? bakalan sama nasibnya dengan Inco gak yah ? On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Stevie Lie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008
Stuju Bung.. d sektor bankiNg BDMN trmasuk yg EPS growthny lumayan tinggi. pkoknya ..dbwh 5000 strong buy dan tu2p mata.hehe BBRI juga.. saat skg ini saham finance undervalued smua.. jd kudu pinter2 cari yg diskonya dah 50%an. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begitu juga Performance salah satu Blue Chip PERBANKAN yaitu BDMN, tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami DEGRADASI akibat krisis ekonomi global... Malah krisis ekonomi global memberikan kesempatan pada investor untuk belanja saham MURAH. PER BMDN = 12 pada harga Rp 5550.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR
*omg Elaine salah apa? Elaine** * 2008/7/29 Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ? I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing. 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ? from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ? or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ? ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ? Which ONE that have a F*CK S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ? compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM... - Original Message - *From:* Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead - Original Message From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? *Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha.. Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali. Elaine** * 2008/7/29 Rei highwaystar91@ yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke target yg katanya 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ ... wrote: NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot. Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho. Hehehe... compor.com --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, conx_2003 conx_2003@ wrote: klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy? hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh kali ini jual apaan yeh jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi ganti vertu hihihihihihihi - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR
wakakakakakaakhirnya kluar Dinda..eline..kagak tau nichkok ada yang marah2..dan menjelek2an ELTY...coba kalau running..wuih dipuja2 lha kalau inpest ya jgn pas harga 600-an ya'harusnya trading dunks kalau di harga itu, siap2 kalau turun CL kalau dikasih murah malah ngak berani ambil...hihihihhihi 2008/7/30 Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] *omg Elaine salah apa? Elaine** *
RE: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...
Setuju Boss... Semakin lama masa akumulasi, kenaikan harga akan semakin tinggi. Kata guru saya, Pak DE, yang penting sabar --- On Wed, 30/7/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 11:18 AM Kelihatannya memang sedang proses akumulasi dan belum ada tanda-tanda sdh selesai. Sesekali terjadi vol spike tp harga ngga kemana-mana trend volume terus menurun, ini ciri-ciri fase akumulasi. So far belum terlihat ada trading opportunity…, cermati jika nanti terjadi breakout.., biasanya semakin lama fase akumulasi maka saat masuk fase markup, harga akan bergerak cukup jauh. Salam, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Robby Nugraha Sent: 30 Juli 2008 10:31 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB... Iya nih, kemaren ini liat TRUB kayanya di akumulasi... bener gak sih? 2008/7/30 kennnsss [EMAIL PROTECTED] com For Pak DE, JSX Trader n Bung Ocoy Jika dilihat dgn menggunakan Freq Anal nya Pak DE, TRUB apakah lagi distribusi atau akumulasi ? Bagaimana Potensi saham TRUB secara fundamental n valuasi ? Mohon Pencerahan utk Newbiebanget ... Thx No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1580 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 5:26 PM Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR
Yang cepot ELTY ratusan milyar dari bandar balikin dulu donk...Biar Oom BD segera ngangkat harga --- On Wed, 30/7/08, SSTrader-03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: SSTrader-03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 2:05 PM wakakakakaka. ...akhirnya kluar Dinda..eline. .kagak tau nichkok ada yang marah2..dan menjelek2an ELTY...coba kalau running..wuih dipuja2 lha kalau inpest ya jgn pas harga 600-an ya'harusnya trading dunks kalau di harga itu, siap2 kalau turun CL kalau dikasih murah malah ngak berani ambil...hihihihhihi 2008/7/30 Elaine Sui you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com omg Elaine salah apa? Elaine Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120
He..he..he..belum dong, bung AA sekarang khan oil masih $120, cuma kebetulan tebakan saya sama dengan Ketua OPEC. Apakah saya yakin? Ya, 90% yakin. Waktu OIL naik tidak wajar saya mulai mencari berapa harga wajar OIL dan ketemu $70-80. Kemudian berapa sih hrga wajar saham BUMI, AALI, ANTM kalo oil $70-an. Dengan acuan penurunan harga oil, perkiraan komoditinya akan turun dengan akselerasi yg sama, ketemu harga 4500, 18000, 2500. Seperti juga oil, saham komoditi setelah tercapai angkanya akan SIDEWAYS untuk konsolidasi, selanjutnya akan bergerak wajar sesuai supply-demand. Pertanyaannya kalo sideways berapa swingnya? Sekitar 20-30%. BUMI median 4500, swing 3500-5500 AALI median 18000, swing 14000-22000 ANTM median 2500, swing 2000-3000 Disc on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIP JM: Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 . Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL. Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya: BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500 ...he..he.. Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut. Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500, 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at least 500-1500 points dah dapet. Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho. Hebat Om. Tebakan Anda jitu sekali. Om Jos bisa menebak angkanya dengan akurasi yang tinggi. BTW, apa Om Jos yakin BUMI AALI dan ANTM akan SIDEWAYS di angka2 bawah tsb? Alasannya tolong disebutkan. tx
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR
Kalau MACD0, bearish, walau cross. Kalau MACD0 cenderung bullish. Jadi selain melihat histogram, lihat juga macdnya positif apa ngga. Kaya inco, walau histogram diatas, tapi MACD nya minus, artinya bearish, macd cross cuma tech rebound saja. Regards, DE Pada 30 Juli 2008 08:53, Hendrik Limbono [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: salah satu kelemahan metode ini adalah kita ngga tau kapan reversal. lihat aja MACD Histogram yang udsh naik lama tapi harga terus turun (cenderrung turun secara sideway/perlahan lahan). namun biasanya kalau sudah melewati masa sideway ini harga akan naik kencang salah satu contoh lain adalah INCO. kesamaan antara INCO dengan ELTY adalah sama - sama memiliki MACD hitogram yang naik bedanya antara INCO dengan ELTY INCO malah nyusep ELTY malah naik oleh sebab itu menurut saya juga perlu kita menunggu BREAK OUT (INCO TIDAK BREAK OUT) sednagkan ELTY BREAK OUT namun menurut saya tetap perlu kita menunggu 1 lagi break out di level harga 400 With Love - Original Message From: Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:49:49 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR Yup, dari chart saya juga ada indikasi demikian, namun maaf, hanya untuk internal, di harga berapa harus diambil dan berapa target terdekatnya. --- On *Tue, 7/29/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com* wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:37 PM Relax.., ELTY bentar lagi juga naik. JsxTrader - Original Message From: Frendy wildwildwest84@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 21:50:13 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ? I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing... .. 2007 HELL INVESTING... .am I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ? from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ? or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ? say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL. ... ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ? ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ? Which ONE that have a F*CK S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ? compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ? my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM... - Original Message - *From:* Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead - Original Message From: Elaine Sui you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? *Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha.. Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali. Elaine** * 2008/7/29 Rei highwaystar91@ yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke target yg katanya 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ ... wrote: NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot. Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho. Hehehe compor.com --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, conx_2003 conx_2003@ wrote: klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy? hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh kali ini jual apaan yeh jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi ganti vertu hihihihihihihi - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/ Links
[obrolan-bandar] PER TMAS = 2, 95...TMAS update... Permainan segera di mulai
Kita dukung Miss Elvira Performance keuangan Q2 2008 melanjutkan keberhasilan TMAS di Q1 2008... PER TMAS cuman = 2,95 On 7/30/08, elvira raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: papan permainan sudah di tentukan... tinggal menunggu para pemain untuk bermain di dalamnya... hati2 dalam bermain.. good luck all See attachment TMAS Date : 29-07-08 Financial Performance (in billion Rp) www.investdata.net 2008| 2007| 2006| 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3| -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales616279 0 0327152 0 0 COGS 466214 0 0309128 0 0 Gross Marg 150 65 0 0 18 23 0 0 GM (%)24 23***.**.*** 5 15***.**.*** Opr Profit 125 54| 0 0 0 14| 0 0 OP (%)20 19***.**.*** 0 9***.**.*** Net Profit96 46| 0 0-24 0| 0 0 NP (%)15 16***.**.*** -7 0***.**.*** -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Stk Price 500360200| 0 0540580| 0 0 Book Value 389344| 0 0258280| 0 0 PBV 1,29 0,93 0,58| 0,00 0,00 2,09 2,07| 0,00 0,00 DER 1,44 1,58| 0,00 0,00 1,98 1,56| 0,00 0,00 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- ROE (%) 43 46| 0 0-16 1| 0 0 ROA (%) 17 18| 0 0 -5 0| 0 0 Opr prof/share 109 47| 0 0 0 13| 0 0 EPS 84 40| 0 0-21 0| 0 0 EPS (Qtr) 44 40| 0 0-22 0| 0 0 EPS (Annu) 169161| 0 0-43 3| 0 0 PER 2,95 2,13 1,24| 0,00 0,00 -12,33 180,42| 0,00 0,00 PER (Qtr) 2,04 1,24|***,**,** -5,95 180,42|***,**,** -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- COP (year) 2,28 1,64 1,05 0,00 0,001252,35 11,05 0,00 0,00 CLOP(year) 4,84 4,20 3,92 0,00 0,002437,57 19,38 0,00 0,00 CLOP(Qtr*) 3,71 3,92 0,00 0,00 -20,36 19,38 0,00 0,00 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales Growth(%) 88 83***.**.*** Op.Prof Growth(%) 50.713261***.**.*** Net.Prof/EPS Grow -486 4.931***.**.*** PEG (1)-0,01 -0,00 0,00| 0,00 0,00 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales(Qtr) 336279 0 -327175152 0 0 COGS (Qtr) 252214 0 -309180128 0 0 Gross Marg(Qtr) 84 65 0-18 -5 23 0 0 GM (%)25 23***.*** 5 -2 15***.**.*** OP.PR (Qtr) 70 54 0 -0-14 14 0 0 OP % 21 19***.*** 0 -8 9***.**.*** NET.PR (Qtr) 50 46 0 24-25 0 0 0 NP % 14 16***.*** -7-14 0***.**.*** -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Asset 1.083 1.014| 0 0877819| 0 0 Liability639620| 0 0583499| 0 0 Equity 443393| 0 0294320| 0 0 Capitalis.570410228| 0 0616661| 0 0 Share(mil) 1.141 1.141 0 0 1.141 1.141 0 0 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- See ERROR and OMISSION
Re: [obrolan-bandar] 40% INCO Dibeli Linkin Park?
Itu salah besar Bukannya LINKIN PARK yg beli tapi KANGEN BAND sUmber : Ryan --- Kucing Tua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rekan-rekan, ada berita 40% inco dibeli linkin park? apaan maksudnya? sumbernya disini di bagian kanan, banyak yang memberikan pesan demikian, kira-kira apa maksudnya? mohon pencerahan. kebetulan saya punya inco yang lagi nyangkut Regards, Ilham D. Nurdhiansyah Technical Support HelpDesk Response System PT. Balisoft LintasMedia Jl. Buluh Indah No. 50C Denpasar 80118 Phone : 0361 418050 Fax : 0361 418049
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga Nickel
emang dulu nikel sampai 50.000 USD/ MT karena apa? Sekarang sdh jeblok gn jg karena apa? --- IDX Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mimpi kali yee.. 2008/7/11 vale sutomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Udah deh tubruk saja. INCO ANTM - Persepsinya murah dan memang bukan murahan PER tidak sampai 12. Potensial UP rumornya INCO 7000 ANTM 4500 Atau kita buat ANTM = BUMI? bercanda siapa tahu kejadian. Pada tanggal 11/07/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Masa sih beda antara LME dgn bloomberg? Lha kan Bloomberg ambil data-nya dari LME. Mungkin beda yg dimaksud adalah perbedaan dalam kurs/satuan unit, grade, atau future (3months, dll) dengan Cash/Spot. Biasanya harga nickel yg saya lihat di Bloomberg adalah yg future 3month, dalam kurs USD/ton. ticker-nya di bloomberg: *LMNIDS03 Cmdty* and kalau ingin lihat chart-nya (Candlestick) tinggal tambahkan GPC : *LMNIDS03 Cmdty GPC* kalau yg Spot, tickernya *LMNIDY Cmdty* Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bob_mailmachine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Para ahli di OB dimana ya dapat tahu harga nickel yang selalu update.. sebab saya lihat di LME kok selalu beda ya dengan di BLOOMBERG.. Mohon Pencerahannya.. Thk ... Regards, Ilham D. Nurdhiansyah Technical Support HelpDesk Response System PT. Balisoft LintasMedia Jl. Buluh Indah No. 50C Denpasar 80118 Phone : 0361 418050 Fax : 0361 418049
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Frequency Analyzer
Pak DE.. bs minta frequency analyzer dengan database terbaru?? klo mo download manual dari website bej.. da gk bs thanks regards, Vid
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120
Oil mau kmn kek, terserah. Tetap bisa untung mainin bumi. Siapa yang takut , ga bisa dpt untung gede. Siapa blg bearish ga bisa untung. Siapa yg berani kemarin udah untung gede masuk bumi. spread nya jauh euy ... 5500 ke 6450 dlm hitungan 2 hari aja. Nantikan swing swing lainnya. Tapi juga hati2, jgn greedy. 4500, 18000, 2500? Mau kemana ayo ... Kunantikan permainanmu.. Sent from my BlackBerry� powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:13:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120 He..he..he..belum dong, bung AA sekarang khan oil masih $120, cuma kebetulan tebakan saya sama dengan Ketua OPEC. Apakah saya yakin? Ya, 90% yakin. Waktu OIL naik tidak wajar saya mulai mencari berapa harga wajar OIL dan ketemu $70-80. Kemudian berapa sih hrga wajar saham BUMI, AALI, ANTM kalo oil $70-an. Dengan acuan penurunan harga oil, perkiraan komoditinya akan turun dengan akselerasi yg sama, ketemu harga 4500, 18000, 2500. Seperti juga oil, saham komoditi setelah tercapai angkanya akan SIDEWAYS untuk konsolidasi, selanjutnya akan bergerak wajar sesuai supply-demand. Pertanyaannya kalo sideways berapa swingnya? Sekitar 20-30%. BUMI median 4500, swing 3500-5500 AALI median 18000, swing 14000-22000 ANTM median 2500, swing 2000-3000 Disc on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIP JM: Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 . Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL. Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya: BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500 ...he..he.. Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut. Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500, 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at least 500-1500 points dah dapet. Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho. Hebat Om. Tebakan Anda jitu sekali. Om Jos bisa menebak angkanya dengan akurasi yang tinggi. BTW, apa Om Jos yakin BUMI AALI dan ANTM akan SIDEWAYS di angka2 bawah tsb? Alasannya tolong disebutkan. tx
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120
Pak Jos, using the same logic, brp harga median dan swing utk inco? Rgds Sent from my BlackBerry� wireless device -Original Message- From: jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:13:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120 He..he..he..belum dong, bung AA sekarang khan oil masih $120, cuma kebetulan tebakan saya sama dengan Ketua OPEC. Apakah saya yakin? Ya, 90% yakin. Waktu OIL naik tidak wajar saya mulai mencari berapa harga wajar OIL dan ketemu $70-80. Kemudian berapa sih hrga wajar saham BUMI, AALI, ANTM kalo oil $70-an. Dengan acuan penurunan harga oil, perkiraan komoditinya akan turun dengan akselerasi yg sama, ketemu harga 4500, 18000, 2500. Seperti juga oil, saham komoditi setelah tercapai angkanya akan SIDEWAYS untuk konsolidasi, selanjutnya akan bergerak wajar sesuai supply-demand. Pertanyaannya kalo sideways berapa swingnya? Sekitar 20-30%. BUMI median 4500, swing 3500-5500 AALI median 18000, swing 14000-22000 ANTM median 2500, swing 2000-3000 Disc on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIP JM: Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 . Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL. Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya: BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500 ...he..he.. Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut. Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500, 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at least 500-1500 points dah dapet. Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho. Hebat Om. Tebakan Anda jitu sekali. Om Jos bisa menebak angkanya dengan akurasi yang tinggi. BTW, apa Om Jos yakin BUMI AALI dan ANTM akan SIDEWAYS di angka2 bawah tsb? Alasannya tolong disebutkan. tx
[obrolan-bandar] BBCA Financial Performance Q2/2008
Performance keuangan BBCA yg dilampirkan dibawah ini merupakan bukti lagi bahwa sektor perbankan di Indonesia tidak terpengaruh secara material oleh krisis global... Jadi jangan heran kenapa sektor PERBANKAN dijadikan SAFE HEAVEN ketika harga commodity jatuh... Note: - Buat Miss Elaine, sorry yah soal SALE dan COGS, ini worksheet digunakan untuk perusahaan TRADING, MANUFACTURING, BANKING, INSURANCE, SHIPPING dll. Jadi TEMPLATEnya sama hihihi... Jadi happy makan pizaa aja deh BBCA Date : 29-07-08 Financial Performance (in billion Rp) www.investdata.net 2008| 2007| 2006| 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3| -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales 8.735 4.303 16.327 12.195 8.136 4.121 17.128 12.823 COGS 3.364 1.713 6.748 5.060 3.444 1.846 7.668 5.781 Gross Marg 5.371 2.590 9.579 7.134 4.692 2.274 9.459 7.042 GM (%)61 60 58 58 57 55 55 54 Opr Profit 3.436 1.632| 6.331 4.729 3.070 1.494| 6.008 4.440 OP (%)39 37 38 38 37 36 35 34 Net Profit 2.429 1.151| 4.489 3.359 2.176 1.061| 4.242 3.121 NP (%)27 26 27 27 26 25 24 24 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Stk Price 3.000 2.475 3.250| 7.300 6.150 2.725 2.550| 2.600 4.825 Book Value 836871| 1.670 1.631 1.521 1.564| 1.465 1.430 PBV 3,59 2,96 3,73| 4,37 3,77 1,79 1,63| 1,77 3,37 DER 9,67 9,05| 9,66 8,87 8,79 8,34| 8,79 8,28 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- ROE (%) 23 21|21 22 23 22|23 23 ROA (%)2 2| 2 2 2 2| 2 2 Opr prof/share 137 66| 517386248122| 487360 EPS 97 47| 366274175 86| 344253 EPS (Qtr) 51 47|92 96 90 86|90 87 EPS (Annu) 195188| 366366351347| 344337 PER 15,38 12,69 17,28| 19,90 16,80 7,75 7,35| 7,55 14,29 PER (Qtr) 12,06 17,28| 19,77 15,90 7,56 7,35| 7,15 13,78 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- COP (year) 10,87 8,97 12,18 14,11 11,93 5,49 5,22 5,33 10,05 CLOP(year) 40,18 38,28 41,75 45,31 40,01 32,43 31,93 31,75 34,73 CLOP(Qtr*) 36,46 41,75 44,78 38,03 31,59 31,93 30,41 33,24 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales Growth(%)7 4 -4 -4 Op.Prof Growth(%) 11 9 5 6 Net.Prof/EPS Grow 11 8 5 7 PEG (1) 1,32 1,09 2,05| 3,42 2,20 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales(Qtr) 4.431 4.303 4.131 4.058 4.015 4.121 4.304 3.298 COGS (Qtr) 1.651 1.713 1.687 1.616 1.597 1.846 1.886 -850 Gross Marg(Qtr)2.780 2.590 2.444 2.442 2.417 2.274 2.417 4.149 GM (%)62 60 59 60 60 55 56125 OP.PR (Qtr)1.804 1.632 1.601 1.658 1.576 1.494 1.568 1.546 OP % 40 37 38 40 39 36 36 46 NET.PR (Qtr) 1.278 1.151 1.129 1.183 1.114 1.061 1.121 1.079 NP % 28 26 27 29 27 25 26 32 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Asset222.289214.463|**.***197.052184.299178.837|**.***163.754 Liability201.451193.133|**.***177.086165.477159.690|**.***146.116 Equity20.837 21.329|20.441 19.965 18.822 19.147|18.067 17.638 Capitalis. 74.742 61.662 79.559|89.326 75.254 33.716 31.203|32.049 59.477 Share(mil)24.914 24.479 12.236 12.236 12.373 12.236 12.326 12.326 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- See ERROR and OMISSION
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120
Untuk CPO, keseimbangan harga baru di harga atas sebetulnya mudah dikerek. Kalau oil turun, maka industri biodiesel dalam negeri akan berkembang karena mereka bisa dapat CPO dengan harga murah. --- On Wed, 30/7/08, Lindt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lindt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 2:53 PM Oil mau kmn kek, terserah. Tetap bisa untung mainin bumi. Siapa yang takut , ga bisa dpt untung gede. Siapa blg bearish ga bisa untung. Siapa yg berani kemarin udah untung gede masuk bumi. spread nya jauh euy ... 5500 ke 6450 dlm hitungan 2 hari aja. Nantikan swing swing lainnya. Tapi juga hati2, jgn greedy. 4500, 18000, 2500? Mau kemana ayo ... Kunantikan permainanmu. . Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: jos_martino jos_martino@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:13:24 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120 He..he..he.. belum dong, bung AA sekarang khan oil masih $120, cuma kebetulan tebakan saya sama dengan Ketua OPEC.Apakah saya yakin? Ya, 90% yakin. Waktu OIL naik tidak wajar saya mulai mencari berapa harga wajar OIL dan ketemu $70-80. Kemudian berapa sih hrga wajar saham BUMI, AALI, ANTM kalo oil $70-an. Dengan acuan penurunan harga oil, perkiraan komoditinya akan turun dengan akselerasi yg sama, ketemu harga 4500, 18000, 2500.Seperti juga oil, saham komoditi setelah tercapai angkanya akan SIDEWAYS untuk konsolidasi, selanjutnya akan bergerak wajar sesuai supply-demand.Pertanyaannya kalo sideways berapa swingnya? Sekitar 20-30%.BUMI median 4500, swing 3500-5500AALI median 18000, swing 14000-22000ANTM median 2500, swing 2000-3000 Disc on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, jos_martino jos_martino@ ... wrote: SIP JM: Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 . Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs. .hs..LOL. Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya: BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500 ...he..he.. Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut. Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500, 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at least 500-1500 points dah dapet. Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho. Hebat Om. Tebakan Anda jitu sekali. Om Jos bisa menebak angkanya dengan akurasi yang tinggi. BTW, apa Om Jos yakin BUMI AALI dan ANTM akan SIDEWAYS di angka2 bawah tsb? Alasannya tolong disebutkan. tx Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] PER TMAS = 2, 95...TMAS update... Permainan segera di mulai
Kondisi keuangan ga gt solid mbah, dilihat dr lapkeu 5 tahun terakirBeda ma UNTR, MANTAAAB --- Pada Rab, 30/7/08, OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: [obrolan-bandar] PER TMAS = 2, 95...TMAS update... Permainan segera di mulai Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 30 Juli, 2008, 7:46 AM Kita dukung Miss Elvira Performance keuangan Q2 2008 melanjutkan keberhasilan TMAS di Q1 2008... PER TMAS cuman = 2,95 On 7/30/08, elvira raven elviraraven@ yahoo.com wrote: papan permainan sudah di tentukan... tinggal menunggu para pemain untuk bermain di dalamnya... hati2 dalam bermain.. good luck all See attachment ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Financial Performance Q2/2008
2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Performance keuangan BBCA yg dilampirkan dibawah ini merupakan bukti lagi bahwa sektor perbankan di Indonesia tidak terpengaruh secara material oleh krisis global... Jadi jangan heran kenapa sektor PERBANKAN dijadikan SAFE HEAVEN ketika harga commodity jatuh... Note: - Buat Miss Elaine, sorry yah soal SALE dan COGS, ini worksheet digunakan untuk perusahaan TRADING, MANUFACTURING, BANKING, INSURANCE, SHIPPING dll. Jadi TEMPLATEnya sama hihihi... Jadi happy makan pizaa aja deh PER nya 12 an. Segitu tinggi gak ya buat banking?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Financial Performance Q2/2008
kalo banyak yang per nya dibawah 12 ngapain milih yang udah tinggi yah ?? 2008/7/30 abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ob.helpdesk%40gmail.com : Performance keuangan BBCA yg dilampirkan dibawah ini merupakan bukti lagi bahwa sektor perbankan di Indonesia tidak terpengaruh secara material oleh krisis global... Jadi jangan heran kenapa sektor PERBANKAN dijadikan SAFE HEAVEN ketika harga commodity jatuh... Note: - Buat Miss Elaine, sorry yah soal SALE dan COGS, ini worksheet digunakan untuk perusahaan TRADING, MANUFACTURING, BANKING, INSURANCE, SHIPPING dll. Jadi TEMPLATEnya sama hihihi... Jadi happy makan pizaa aja deh PER nya 12 an. Segitu tinggi gak ya buat banking?
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Financial Performance Q2/2008 kok filenya ancur mbah
ga bisa dibaca, yg lain OK --- Pada Rab, 30/7/08, OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Financial Performance Q2/2008 Kepada: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 30 Juli, 2008, 8:14 AM Performance keuangan BBCA yg dilampirkan dibawah ini merupakan bukti lagi bahwa sektor perbankan di Indonesia tidak terpengaruh secara material oleh krisis global... Jadi jangan heran kenapa sektor PERBANKAN dijadikan SAFE HEAVEN ketika harga commodity jatuh... Note: - Buat Miss Elaine, sorry yah soal SALE dan COGS, ini worksheet digunakan untuk perusahaan TRADING, MANUFACTURING, BANKING, INSURANCE, SHIPPING dll. Jadi TEMPLATEnya sama hihihi... Jadi happy makan pizaa aja deh ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] JPRS update PER = 4,17
Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest2000.net/080629JPRS.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. JPRS Date : 29-07-08 Financial Performance (in billion Rp) www.investdata.net 2008| 2007| 2006| 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3| -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales495276432305199 86340268 COGS 382227362242152 66286223 Gross Marg 113 48 70 62 47 19 53 45 GM (%)22 17 16 20 23 22 15 16 Opr Profit 106 46|55 51 41 16|39 36 OP (%)21 16 12 17 20 19 11 13 Net Profit72 30|41 38 29 11|26 25 NP (%)14 11 9 12 14 13 7 9 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Stk Price 810670265| 355 2.025 2.275354| 1.590760 Book Value 391334| 294 1.450 1.387 1.271| 1.193 1.185 PBV 2,07 1,71 0,79| 1,21 1,40 1,64 0,28| 1,33 0,64 DER 0,14 0,82| 0,22 0,07 0,08 0,04| 0,06 0,07 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- ROE (%) 49 48|18 23 27 24|14 19 ROA (%) 43 26|15 22 25 23|14 17 Opr prof/share 142 61|74346278110| 264244 EPS 97 40|55256193 77| 178170 EPS (Qtr) 56 40| 4 63115 77| 8 85 EPS (Annu) 194162|55342387311| 178227 PER 4,17 3,45 1,63| 6,41 5,91 5,87 1,14| 8,90 3,34 PER (Qtr) 2,98 1,63| 22,06 8,00 4,91 1,14| 48,48 2,21 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- COP (year) 2,84 2,35 1,08 4,80 4,38 4,08 0,80 6,00 2,33 CLOP(year) 3,03 2,54 2,20 5,67 4,59 4,28 0,91 6,26 2,57 CLOP(Qtr*) 2,23 2,20 22,17 7,86 3,55 0,91 20,87 1,71 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales Growth(%) 148219 27 13 Op.Prof Growth(%)155177 39 41 Net.Prof/EPS Grow150161 55 50 PEG (1) 0,03 0,02 0,01| 0,12 0,12 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales(Qtr) 219276127105113 86 71103 COGS (Qtr) 155227120 90 85 66 63 81 Gross Marg(Qtr) 64 48 7 14 27 19 8 21 GM (%)29 17 6 13 24 22 12 20 OP.PR (Qtr) 60 46 3 10 25 16 2 18 OP % 27 16 2 9 22 19 4 17 NET.PR (Qtr) 42 30 3 9 17 11 1 12 NP % 19 11 2 9 15 13 1 12 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Asset334457| 268231224198| 189189 Liability 40206|48 14 16 7|10 12 Equity 293251| 220217208190| 179177 Capitalis.607502198| 266303341 53| 238114 Share(mil) 750750750150150150150150 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- See ERROR and OMISSION
Re: [obrolan-bandar] JPRS update PER = 4,17
2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest2000.net/080629JPRS.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. Iya Mbah. Darvaser pada nungguin break. Kalo datanya berantakan, jgn buka pake notepad, buka pake WordPad aja.
[obrolan-bandar] chatroom #obrolanbandar Tech Support
Selamat siang, OB-ers. Rekan2 di chatroom sangat menantikan kehadiran para Seniors OB dan rekan2 lainnya, bahkan ada beberapa rekan yang menawarkan diri untuk membantu sebagai Tech Support. Tech Support ini menyanggupi untuk hadir di tempat OB-ers, membantu setting komputer/software chatting sehingga bisa masuk dan terlibat dalam chatroom kita semua. Saat ini ada rekan Tech support yang tinggal di Jakarta, Depok dan Pekanbaru. OB-ers yang membutuhkan Tech Support ini dipersilahkan untuk menghubungi saya melalui email. Terima kasih dan salam, Rully
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga Nickel
On 7/30/08, ilham dwi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emang dulu nikel sampai 50.000 USD/ MT karena apa? Sekarang sdh jeblok gn jg karena apa? Dulu nikel sampai 50.000 usd/mt karena booming sektor properti di Amrik. (Booming thn 2004-2007) dan.. akhirnya meletus. duuor... sekarang jeblok karena sektor propertinya jeblok juga. mh. Sektor properti menyumbang sangat besar karena kitchen banyak menggunakan stainless steel. attachment: _nikel.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR Financial Performance Q2/2008
2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Performance salah satu Blue Chip BEJ yaitu UNTR tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami DEGRADASI akibat krisis ekonomi global... Terlampir: UNTR Financial Performance Q2/2008 Regards OB helpdesk Tapi mau RI. Kira2 efek RI terhadap saham UNTR gimana? Kayak LCGP, begitu orang2 tau mau RI tejun bebas dari 73 ke 52.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] stock split pgas
hanya strategi rezim lama alesan nya supaya pgas lebih likuid padahal asii level 22k aja ngga ss pgas ngga akan bernasib sama kaya inco soale potensi pgas saat ini hanya 15% dan belum dikelola secara optimal (oleh rezim lama) Manajemen PGAS diganti oleh orang JP Morgan agar PGAS bisa lebih mengkilap Menurut intuisi gw ... Formula Harga Gas sedang direvisi untukmenyesuaikan dengan harga Internasional sehingga harga jual gas domestik ada kemungkinan itu disesuaikan Keep aja 1 Tahun ke Depan n Lihat apa yang akan terjadi pada saat itu.. gw sih optimis PGAS masih bisa naik walaupun mungkin agak berat karena sementara keluar dari jalan tol untuk angkut penumpang dulu good luck --- On Wed, 7/30/08, mE ME [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mE ME [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] stock split pgas To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 2:41 AM ada yang bisa kasi pencerahan kenapa PGAS kok displit ? wong harga juga cuman 11rbuan ? bakalan sama nasibnya dengan Inco gak yah ? On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Stevie Lie [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
[obrolan-bandar] European Economic Confidence Slumps Most Since Sept. 11 Terrorist Attacks
European Economic Confidence Slumps Most Since Sept. 11 Terrorist Attacks http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=aSaSV.o6ScLQrefer=home July 30 (Bloomberg) -- Europeans' confidence in the outlook for the economy dropped the most since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks as soaring energy costs and the euro's advance against the dollar rattled consumers and executives. An index measuring sentiment in the euro area fell 5.3 points to 89.5 this month, the European Commission in Brussels said today. That is more than economists had forecast and the biggest slide since a 6.3 drop in October 2001, the month after the attacks in the U.S. Rising commodity prices have boosted inflation across Europe, sapping consumers' purchasing power and pushing up companies' costs. That is adding to pressure on the economy as the global turmoil in credit markets restricts access to capital. It also may limit the European Central Bank's scope to increase interest rates to fight inflation
Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR Financial Performance Q2/2008
Efek paling dekat EPS bakal tergerus karna saham bertambah,ada yang udah hitung seberapa besar? Kalo RI sih musti dilihat dululah apa kepentingannya,beberapa emiten emang punya sejarah suka 'todong' pemegang saham buat setor duit jadi yang gak suka bakalan out. ZP riset UNTR sih saranin buat nebus right-nya,karna prospek ke depan masih cerah On 7/30/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ob.helpdesk%40gmail.com: Performance salah satu Blue Chip BEJ yaitu UNTR tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami DEGRADASI akibat krisis ekonomi global... Terlampir: UNTR Financial Performance Q2/2008 Regards OB helpdesk Tapi mau RI. Kira2 efek RI terhadap saham UNTR gimana? Kayak LCGP, begitu orang2 tau mau RI tejun bebas dari 73 ke 52.
[obrolan-bandar] Performance emiten CPO di Q2/2008
Tingginya harga jual CPO pada Q2/2008 akan membuat Income Statement emiten2 CPO KINCLONG Terlampir Performance Keuangan Sinar Mas Agro yg BAGUS Penurunan PER oleh market merupakan antisipasi pasar terhadap penurunan harga CPO. Jadi bisa dibilang pasar sudah mendiscount terlebih dahulu kemungkinan harga CPO pada Q3 akan lebih rendah dibanding Q1 dan Q2 2008. PER SMAR saat ini MURAH BANGET yaitu 6,55 dibandingkan beberapa bulan yg lalu yaitu 16. Masih mau LEBIH MURAH LAGI ?. Mimpi kali ye hehehe SMAR Date : 29-07-08 Financial Performance (in billion Rp) www.investdata.net 2008| 2007| 2006| 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3| -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales 7.724 3.554 8.079 5.260 2.957 1.141 4.708 3.500 COGS 5.659 2.649 5.854 3.686 2.107835 3.853 2.779 Gross Marg 2.064904 2.225 1.573850305854720 GM (%)26 25 27 29 28 26 18 20 Opr Profit 1.379612| 1.663 1.284729249| 617533 OP (%)17 17 20 24 24 21 13 15 Net Profit 1.095422| 988808509187| 628554 NP (%)14 11 12 15 17 16 13 15 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Stk Price 5.000 7.200 9.450| 6.000 4.000 3.300 3.600| 3.650 4.000 Book Value 1.603 1.374| 1.228 1.163 1.059963| 1.376857 PBV 3,12 4,49 6,88| 4,88 3,44 3,11 3,74| 2,65 4,66 DER 1,06 1,28| 1,29 1,20 1,12 0,98| 1,06 1,07 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- ROE (%) 47 42|28 32 33 27|24 30 ROA (%) 23 18|12 14 15 13|11 14 Opr prof/share 480213| 579447254 87| 329185 EPS 381147| 344281177 65| 335192 EPS (Qtr)234147|62103112 65|39 63 EPS (Annu) 763588| 344375355261| 335257 PER 6,55 9,43 16,05| 17,43 10,66 9,29 13,78| 10,88 15,55 PER (Qtr) 7,68 16,05| 23,84 9,63 7,35 13,78| 23,12 15,72 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- COP (year) 5,21 7,50 11,07 10,36 6,71 6,49 10,34 11,07 16,16 CLOP(year) 6,98 9,27 13,13 13,09 9,04 8,82 13,06 15,51 19,86 CLOP(Qtr*) 8,34 13,13 14,36 6,98 6,71 13,06 28,53 23,47 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales Growth(%) 161211 71 50 Op.Prof Growth(%) 89145169140 Net.Prof/EPS Grow114125 57 45 PEG (1) 0,06 0,08 0,13| 0,30 0,23 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales(Qtr) 4.170 3.554 2.819 2.302 1.816 1.141 1.208 1.142 COGS (Qtr) 3.010 2.649 2.168 1.578 1.271835 1.073940 Gross Marg(Qtr)1.160904651723544305134201 GM (%)27 25 23 31 29 26 11 17 OP.PR (Qtr) 766612379554479249 83150 OP % 18 17 13 24 26 21 6 13 NET.PR (Qtr) 673422180298322187 73182 NP % 16 11 6 12 17 16 6 15 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Asset 9.507 8.985| 8.063 7.338 6.442 5.484| 5.311 5.094 Liability 4.900 5.038| 4.534 3.995 3.398 2.718| 2.734 2.631 Equity 4.606 3.947| 3.528 3.343 3.043 2.766| 2.577 2.463 Capitalis. 14.360 20.679 27.142|17.233 11.488 9.478 10.339| 6.833 11.488 Share(mil) 2.872 2.872 2.872 2.872 2.872 2.872 1.872 2.872 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- See ERROR and OMISSION
[obrolan-bandar] OOT: File EXCEL yang aneh...cell angka2 tapi gak bisa dijumlah...
para senior, sori mengganggu.. baru kali ini ketemu file excel kayak gini. penasaran. apa yang salah ya. kok cell yang berisi angka tidak bisa diolah secara matematik/formula? please help. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM aaa.xls Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Performance emiten CPO di Q2/2008
2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tingginya harga jual CPO pada Q2/2008 akan membuat Income Statement emiten2 CPO KINCLONG Terlampir Performance Keuangan Sinar Mas Agro yg BAGUS Penurunan PER oleh market merupakan antisipasi pasar terhadap penurunan harga CPO. Jadi bisa dibilang pasar sudah mendiscount terlebih dahulu kemungkinan harga CPO pada Q3 akan lebih rendah dibanding Q1 dan Q2 2008. PER SMAR saat ini MURAH BANGET yaitu 6,55 dibandingkan beberapa bulan yg lalu yaitu 16. Masih mau LEBIH MURAH LAGI ?. Mimpi kali ye hehehe Woohoo. He's back. We love you OB Helpdesk BTW, AALI bottom fishing di berapa kira2 neh?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17
Situs : www.investdata.net Lg ga bisa dibuka, bandwith limit. Klo ada yg sdh bisa DOWNLOAD, file-nya bisa di sharing ke milis dunk. Saya liat LK JPRS (Q1Q2) tahun 2008: NET INCOME : naik, tp REVENUE : turun Penyebab penurunan REVENUE ini karena apa? Mgkn ada yg bisa ksh comment, yg tahu JEROAN-nya JPRS. Regards, PTLS Bisa minta--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest2000.net/080629JPRS.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. Iya Mbah. Darvaser pada nungguin break. Kalo datanya berantakan, jgn buka pake notepad, buka pake WordPad aja.
[obrolan-bandar] AKRA Financial Performance Q2/2008
Terlampir Financial Performance AKRA Q2/2008 It WAS stable and growing... AKRA Date : 29-07-08 Financial Performance (in billion Rp) www.investdata.net 2008| 2007| 2006| 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3| -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales 4.719 2.091 5.894 4.186 2.624 1.258 3.970 2.817 COGS 4.203 1.850 5.149 3.676 2.312 1.107 3.515 2.498 Gross Marg 516241745509311151455319 GM (%)10 11 12 12 11 12 11 11 Opr Profit 300134| 393270156 74| 201141 OP (%) 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 5 Net Profit 175 83| 191130 86 43| 128 88 NP (%) 3 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Stk Price 1.140 1.210 1.370| 1.380 1.170820600| 545348 Book Value 478458| 409377358358| 333323 PBV 2,38 2,53 2,99| 3,37 3,10 2,29 1,67| 1,64 1,08 DER 2,21 1,89| 1,74 1,59 1,55 1,32| 1,29 1,39 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- ROE (%) 23 23|14 14 15 15|12 11 ROA (%)7 8| 5 5 6 6| 5 4 Opr prof/share96 43| 126 86 50 23|64 45 EPS 56 26|61 41 27 14|41 28 EPS (Qtr) 29 26|19 14 13 14|12 12 EPS (Annu) 112107|61 55 55 56|41 37 PER 10,15 10,77 12,74| 22,52 20,93 14,80 10,71| 13,28 9,25 PER (Qtr) 10,31 12,74| 17,83 20,55 14,97 10,71| 10,63 7,03 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- COP (year) 5,92 6,29 7,94 10,95 10,12 8,15 6,30 8,44 5,77 CLOP(year) 11,42 11,78 12,97 16,59 15,31 13,69 11,29 15,09 13,21 CLOP(Qtr*) 10,66 12,97 13,28 12,16 12,99 11,29 12,59 9,05 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales Growth(%) 79 66 48 48 Op.Prof Growth(%) 91 81 95 91 Net.Prof/EPS Grow103 91 49 48 PEG (1) 0,10 0,10 0,14| 0,46 0,43 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Sales(Qtr) 2.628 2.091 1.708 1.562 1.365 1.258 1.152 1.174 COGS (Qtr) 2.353 1.850 1.472 1.364 1.205 1.107 1.017 1.035 Gross Marg(Qtr) 275241235198160151135139 GM (%)10 11 13 12 11 12 11 11 OP.PR (Qtr) 166134122113 82 74 60 68 OP % 6 6 7 7 6 5 5 5 NET.PR (Qtr) 91 83 60 44 42 43 40 38 NP % 3 4 3 2 3 3 3 3 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- Asset 4.797 4.138| 3.497 3.049 2.856 2.598| 2.377 2.408 Liability 3.302 2.708| 2.219 1.871 1.737 1.479| 1.338 1.399 Equity 1.495 1.429| 1.277 1.177 1.119 1.119| 1.039 1.009 Capitalis. 3.562 3.781 4.274| 4.305 3.650 2.558 1.872| 1.700 1.085 Share(mil) 3.125 3.120 3.120 3.120 3.120 3.120 3.120 3.120 -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- -- See ERROR and OMISSION
Re: [obrolan-bandar] chatroom #obrolanbandar Tech Support
Pak Rully, Apakah chat nya memakai YM ? Jika ya maka tolong add id saya : ilasa2003. Thanks On 7/30/08, Rully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selamat siang, OB-ers. Rekan2 di chatroom sangat menantikan kehadiran para Seniors OB dan rekan2 lainnya, bahkan ada beberapa rekan yang menawarkan diri untuk membantu sebagai Tech Support. Tech Support ini menyanggupi untuk hadir di tempat OB-ers, membantu setting komputer/software chatting sehingga bisa masuk dan terlibat dalam chatroom kita semua. Saat ini ada rekan Tech support yang tinggal di Jakarta, Depok dan Pekanbaru. OB-ers yang membutuhkan Tech Support ini dipersilahkan untuk menghubungi saya melalui email. Terima kasih dan salam, Rully
Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: File EXCEL yang aneh...cell angka2 tapi gak bisa dijumlah...
Lai, kalau mau diolah maka angkanya jangan pakai titik kecuali untuk pecahan. Contoh: ketik 1000.25 maka jadi kelihatannya di screen 1.000,25 baru dijumlahkan. On 7/30/08, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: para senior, sori mengganggu.. baru kali ini ketemu file excel kayak gini… penasaran… apa yang salah ya… kok cell yang berisi angka tidak bisa diolah secara matematik/formula? please help… No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17
Mungkin maksudnya %margin naik(gross/opr profit/net profit) akibat peningkatan harga jual produknya(baja) cmiiw. On 7/30/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Situs : www.investdata.net Lg ga bisa dibuka, bandwith limit. Klo ada yg sdh bisa DOWNLOAD, file-nya bisa di sharing ke milis dunk. Saya liat LK JPRS (Q1Q2) tahun 2008: NET INCOME : naik, tp REVENUE : turun Penyebab penurunan REVENUE ini karena apa? Mgkn ada yg bisa ksh comment, yg tahu JEROAN-nya JPRS. Regards, PTLS Bisa minta--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest2000.net/080629JPRS.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. Iya Mbah. Darvaser pada nungguin break. Kalo datanya berantakan, jgn buka pake notepad, buka pake WordPad aja.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR
Yg jelas JSMR dah under value. Jumat nanti analis meeting! Resiko turunnya lebih kecil dibanding yg lain but potential up. Nya terbuka! Sy kumpulin dr harga 1200! Turub pun msh kumpulin! Average 1.155! Buat anak cucu lah he he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry� -Original Message- From: big_man99cool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:43:47 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR BBNI LSIP JSMR,ada yg tahu saham ini mau dibawa kemana?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB...
TRUB menang tender PLN untuk hold sampe tahun depan, prospek cukup bagus --- On Wed, 7/30/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 12:01 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Kelihatannya memang sedang proses akumulasi dan belum ada tanda- tanda sdh selesai. Sesekali terjadi vol spike tp harga ngga kemana-mana trend volume terus menurun, ini ciri-ciri fase akumulasi. So far belum terlihat ada trading opportunity. , cermati jika nanti terjadi breakout.., biasanya semakin lama fase akumulasi maka saat masuk fase markup, harga akan bergerak cukup jauh. Salam, JsxTrader SIP : TBUMI TRUB juga berfundamental baik. Harga market saat ini sdh murah.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: File EXCEL yang aneh...cell angka2 tapi gak bisa dijumlah...
soalnya isi cell dalam bentuk text tinggal klik kanan format cell nanti diconvert ke number/currency, beres de - Original Message - From: Pahala Baringbing To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: File EXCEL yang aneh...cell angka2 tapi gak bisa dijumlah... para senior, sori mengganggu.. baru kali ini ketemu file excel kayak gini. penasaran. apa yang salah ya. kok cell yang berisi angka tidak bisa diolah secara matematik/formula? please help. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120
INCO %swingnya cenderung lebih lebar dari ANTM: INCO median 5000, swing 3000-7000 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Jos, using the same logic, brp harga median dan swing utk inco? Rgds Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:13:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120 He..he..he..belum dong, bung AA sekarang khan oil masih $120, cuma kebetulan tebakan saya sama dengan Ketua OPEC. Apakah saya yakin? Ya, 90% yakin. Waktu OIL naik tidak wajar saya mulai mencari berapa harga wajar OIL dan ketemu $70-80. Kemudian berapa sih hrga wajar saham BUMI, AALI, ANTM kalo oil $70-an. Dengan acuan penurunan harga oil, perkiraan komoditinya akan turun dengan akselerasi yg sama, ketemu harga 4500, 18000, 2500. Seperti juga oil, saham komoditi setelah tercapai angkanya akan SIDEWAYS untuk konsolidasi, selanjutnya akan bergerak wajar sesuai supply- demand. Pertanyaannya kalo sideways berapa swingnya? Sekitar 20-30%. BUMI median 4500, swing 3500-5500 AALI median 18000, swing 14000-22000 ANTM median 2500, swing 2000-3000 Disc on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, jos_martino jos_martino@ wrote: SIP JM: Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 . Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL. Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya: BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500 ...he..he.. Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut. Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500, 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at least 500-1500 points dah dapet. Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho. Hebat Om. Tebakan Anda jitu sekali. Om Jos bisa menebak angkanya dengan akurasi yang tinggi. BTW, apa Om Jos yakin BUMI AALI dan ANTM akan SIDEWAYS di angka2 bawah tsb? Alasannya tolong disebutkan. tx
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17
penjualan turun tapi laba tetap tinggi kemungkinan : - kenaikan penjualan bukan dari segi qty tapi karena harga jual naik dan COGS rendah - COGS rendah karena harga pokok pembelian raw materialnya masih murah (cek stok raw material di LK Q1 deh...nimbun?) kalo raw material murahnya udah abis penjualan turun lagi (dlm qty)...nah loo :) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:22:54 +Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17 Situs : www.investdata.netLg ga bisa dibuka, bandwith limit.Klo ada yg sdh bisa DOWNLOAD, file-nya bisa di sharing ke milis dunk.Saya liat LK JPRS (Q1Q2) tahun 2008:NET INCOME : naik, tp REVENUE : turunPenyebab penurunan REVENUE ini karena apa? Mgkn ada yg bisa kshcomment, yg tahu JEROAN-nya JPRS.Regards,PTLSBisa minta--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahimabdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest2000.net/080629JPRS.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. Iya Mbah. Darvaser pada nungguin break. Kalo datanya berantakan, jgn buka pake notepad, buka pake WordPad aja. _ Easily publish your photos to your Spaces with Photo Gallery. http://get.live.com/photogallery/overview
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BBNI LSIP JSMR
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, big_man99cool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBNI LSIP JSMR,ada yg tahu saham ini mau dibawa kemana? utk ke-3 saham ini saya optimis bisa terbang 30%-50% dr harga skrg
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BBNI LSIP JSMR
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, big_man99cool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBNI LSIP JSMR,ada yg tahu saham ini mau dibawa kemana? utk sampe akhir tahun ke-3 saham ini bisa bakal naik 30%-50% dan saya opptimis utk itu
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR ( I don't think so! )
Technically ELTY forming Flag Penant dengan target 445 (D!SCLA!MER) Salam, \( ._.)/ Halim. - Original Message - From: JsxTrader To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR Kalo yg ini boleh lah untuk external.hehehe..., kira-kira ELTY mo kemana nih?? JsxTrader ELTY.PNG
[obrolan-bandar] will oil price rise again ???
nightmare... serbu! Nigeria’s Oil Production Drops Below 1mbpd•Can’t meet 2.1mbpd OPEC quota By Chika Amanze-Nwachuku, 07.30.2008 Add To Favorites Print This Article Post Comment There are strong indications that Nigeria, the sixth biggest oil producer in the world and Africa’s biggest oil producer, can no longer meet the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) production quota. The country’s current production level has dropped below 1 million barrels per day (mbpd) owing to frequent shut-ins due to renewed attacks on oil facilities in the Niger Delta region. Prior to the escalation of violent attacks on oil installations, Nigeria produced between 2.5 and 2.6 million barrels of crude oil per day. The country with its abundant oil potentials has the capacity to produce about 3.2 million barrels of oil per day. Between late last year and January, this year, Nigeria’s crude production had appreciated following a directive by the Federal Government that oil companies operating in the country should increase output from the deep offshore fields. Sequel to the increase in crude production, Nigeria was able to meet its daily production quota of 2.1 million barrels per day allocated to her by OPEC. However, following the recent upsurge in attacks on oil companies’ facilities, particularly the Royal Dutch Shell that produces about 20 per cent of the nation’s oil, coupled with theft of oil in the region, Nigeria’s oil production is now less than 1 million barrels per day, far below the 2.1million barrels OPEC mark. An official of the Ministry of Energy confirmed last night that, “Nigeria at the moment cannot meet OPEC quota, because production has gone down below 1 million barrels per day.” “How can we meet the OPEC quota when we now produce less than 1 million barrels per day. This is the lowest level so far recorded. There is serious problem and it does not look like the end is near. “Only recently, Bonga field was attacked. We are yet to recover from that one. The militants have continued their attacks, and others facilities have been hit. “The NPDC is not producing because of Niger Delta crisis. Where are we going from here,” the official said. The attack on Bonga, Nigeria’s biggest offshore facility and Chevron installation in June had resulted in the shut in of about 250,000 barrels per day. Before then, Shell, the worst hit, had a shut-off of about 400,000 barrels per day owing to incessant attacks on its facilities by militant groups in the region. The attacks on Shell has not only adversely affected Nigeria’s crude quota, but has robbed the country, since oil accounts for more than 80 per cent of its foreign earnings. In its recent report, OPEC had noted that Angola had topped Nigeria in terms of crude production due to crisis in the oil-rich Niger Delta. Reacting to the report by OPEC, Minister of State for Energy (Petroleum), Odein Ajumogobia, SAN, had told newsmen in Madrid, Spain, that the OPEC statement came in the wake of the attacks on Shell Bonga field and Chevron facility, which had resulted in the shut in of about 250,000 barrels of oil per day. He said Nigeria’s output at that time (early this month), stood at about 1.886 million barrels a day. “Our production levels currently are about the same and because of the issues in the Niger Delta, it fluctuates. In fact, at the time that statement was made, we just lost about 250,000 barrels to separate attacks on Bonga and Chevron. It is also of utmost importance to say that Nigeria’s capacity is actually over 3 million barrels per day and half of the shut in capacity is the direct consequence of the issues regarding the security in the Niger Delta area. “There are security challenges in the Niger Delta, but there is no doubt that we are facing those challenges, through the process of enhancing security in the area. We recognise the issue as very important, and have to confront it for us to grow production,” he said. However, the production level, which has been hovering between 1.8 million barrels and 2 million barrels per day, has reduced drastically from the about 1.4 billion mid this month to below 1 million, causing shivers in the industry sector that it may take some time before the production could boom again. Nigeria’s crude oil has been the preferred grade in the international market due to its low sulfur content. Nigeria's crude oil production which had hovered between 1.8 million and 2 million barrel per day had dropped further, as the Shell Petroleum Development Company (SPDC) Monday shut in production of 130,000 barrels per day owing to an attack on its Nembe Creek trunk line. The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND) had last week vowed to renew pipeline attacks within 30 days in protest against a statement credited to the Acting Group Managing Director of the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation
[obrolan-bandar] Chart Gold
Di mana bisa liat chart gold yang bisa dikasih indikator ya. Pengen tau, bottom gold di mana. thanks
[obrolan-bandar] To : Master TA==== Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17
Chart JPRS membentuk pola TRIPEL TOP di 800. Bagaimana tren harga kedepan JPRS? Dari sisi volume sdh mulai terjadi penurunan terhitung sejak tanggal 04 July. Saya melihat-nya sebagai tren DOWN. Kenaikan harga tidak didukung dengan volume yang memadai. Bagaimana nih comment MASTER TA??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Wahyu M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: penjualan turun tapi laba tetap tinggi kemungkinan : - kenaikan penjualan bukan dari segi qty tapi karena harga jual naik dan COGS rendah - COGS rendah karena harga pokok pembelian raw materialnya masih murah (cek stok raw material di LK Q1 deh...nimbun?) kalo raw material murahnya udah abis penjualan turun lagi (dlm qty)...nah loo :) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:22:54 +Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17 Situs : www.investdata.netLg ga bisa dibuka, bandwith limit.Klo ada yg sdh bisa DOWNLOAD, file-nya bisa di sharing ke milis dunk.Saya liat LK JPRS (Q1Q2) tahun 2008:NET INCOME : naik, tp REVENUE : turunPenyebab penurunan REVENUE ini karena apa? Mgkn ada yg bisa kshcomment, yg tahu JEROAN-nya JPRS.Regards,PTLSBisa minta--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahimabdulrahim abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote: 2008/7/30 OB Help desk ob.helpdesk@: Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest2000.net/080629JPRS.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. Iya Mbah. Darvaser pada nungguin break. Kalo datanya berantakan, jgn buka pake notepad, buka pake WordPad aja. _ Easily publish your photos to your Spaces with Photo Gallery. http://get.live.com/photogallery/overview
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Chart Gold
Sya biasa monitor dari sini pak http://www.galmarley.com/ Safe trading n cuan:-) --- On Wed, 7/30/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Chart Gold To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:23 AM Di mana bisa liat chart gold yang bisa dikasih indikator ya. Pengen tau, bottom gold di mana. thanks
[obrolan-bandar] US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
Mantabbs...! Siap2 tmrw we'll take the God damn off and fly high to the sky... Fasten ur seatbelt and be ready for the next new high. Would it reach 2400 soon on friday...? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry� -Original Message- From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:37:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry)
[obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy
*Just a friendly advice. You will get CRAZY if you invest based on headlines. News is ALWAYS LATE and EXAGGERATED. If I were you, I will invest based on facts and expectations. Now, what is your expectations for this 2nd half? We have Olympic, Idl Fitr, US Election, Christmas. What'd ppl (market) react on these events..? Elaine** * On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: H...I am interest*ed* why you promoted Banking sectors for *so *many times Banks brace for more pain http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/25/news/companies/banks_wrapup/index.htm?postversion=2008072512 --- On *Tue, 22/7/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote: From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 1:33 PM * * *Friends, are you happy too? Finally, what I'm expecting is about to come. Right on! Buy now, get rich later. Tetapi jangan salah beli. Financials, Housing, Metals, Infrastructure, Construction, Auto. Energy and Agriculture will support IDX later whenever It needs to be supercharged, maybe next year. So don't worry.* *Well of course you can wait for further indicators if you wish. But for ME I'm confident enough with the market. Note that I'm not a trader nor a forecaster. Daily, volatility doesn't bother me much, right Kang Ocoy? ^_^ * * Elaine* Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com AddEmoticons0217.gifaddemoticons5.gif
Update - RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
US STOCKS-Wall St gains on data, Fed; Dow up 1 percent 30 Juli 2008 20:46:45 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to show Dow rising 1 percent) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks rose on Wednesday, driving the Dow Jones 1 percent higher, after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve stepped in to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets once again. Another decline in the price of oil further reduced fears about inflation and the impact of high energy prices on consumer spending. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI rose 122.62 points, or 1.08 percent, at 11,520.18, while the Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX rose 11.45 points, or 0.91 percent, at 1,274.65. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC gained 9.60 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.22. (Reporting by Walter Brandimarte; Editing by Kenneth Barry)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
*$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Financial Performance Q2/2008
Save heaven ? Bukan kali ya. Cm krn udah murah aja. Ga lama lagi jg pindah lagi. Cm ganti vehicle aja buat cari cuan. Per per jg udah ga ngaruh. Long term sekalii kalo ngomongin per sm fundamental. Trading, nyopet or hit n run aja hari gini. Institusi udah sepi ga ngapa2in. Cuma retail aja yang sekarang masih aktif sm bandar. Liat aja volume jsx. Ngarep apa kalo bukan trading. Dow mau dinaikin2in jg ga kuat. Jsx apalagi. Perlahan tp pasti. Sayang duit bukan brarti ga trading. Tp trading rugi mulu jg mending calm down aja. Nunggu moment pas buat nyopet. Tak kan lari gunung dikejar. Indeks naik jangan dikejar ntar juga turun lagi. Sent from my BlackBerry� powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: kusumo k [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:31:55 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Financial Performance Q2/2008 kalo banyak yang per nya dibawah 12 ngapain milih yang udah tinggi yah ?? 2008/7/30 abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/7/30 OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ob.helpdesk%40gmail.com : Performance keuangan BBCA yg dilampirkan dibawah ini merupakan bukti lagi bahwa sektor perbankan di Indonesia tidak terpengaruh secara material oleh krisis global... Jadi jangan heran kenapa sektor PERBANKAN dijadikan SAFE HEAVEN ketika harga commodity jatuh... Note: - Buat Miss Elaine, sorry yah soal SALE dan COGS, ini worksheet digunakan untuk perusahaan TRADING, MANUFACTURING, BANKING, INSURANCE, SHIPPING dll. Jadi TEMPLATEnya sama hihihi... Jadi happy makan pizaa aja deh PER nya 12 an. Segitu tinggi gak ya buat banking?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
Emg kecopetan bnyk Lu El??? Ya anggap derita Lu dech. Gampang kok cari barang lagi, NYOPET gantian aza. HAJAR KANAN aza terus, TANPA AMPUN. He.. he.. he.. Just kidding --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy
Tell us Eleine, what would people react on those events? BTW, you are very very very awaited in #obrolanbandar room on IRC On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a friendly advice. You will get CRAZY if you invest based on headlines. News is ALWAYS LATE and EXAGGERATED. If I were you, I will invest based on facts and expectations. Now, what is your expectations for this 2nd half? We have Olympic, Idl Fitr, US Election, Christmas. What'd ppl (market) react on these events..? Elaine On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H...I am interested why you promoted Banking sectors for so many times Banks brace for more pain http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/25/news/companies/banks_wrapup/index.htm?postversion=2008072512 --- On Tue, 22/7/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 1:33 PM Friends, are you happy too? Finally, what I'm expecting is about to come. Right on! Buy now, get rich later. Tetapi jangan salah beli. Financials, Housing, Metals, Infrastructure, Construction, Auto. Energy and Agriculture will support IDX later whenever It needs to be supercharged, maybe next year. So don't worry. Well of course you can wait for further indicators if you wish. But for ME I'm confident enough with the market. Note that I'm not a trader nor a forecaster. Daily, volatility doesn't bother me much, right Kang Ocoy? ^_^ Elaine
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Chart Gold
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Di mana bisa liat chart gold yang bisa dikasih indikator ya. Pengen tau, bottom gold di mana. thanks bisa liat di www.kitco.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] 40% INCO Dibeli Linkin Park?
Ha, bukannya Inul Daratista yg naksir berat sama si INCO? deh... :-D On 7/30/08, ilham dwi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Itu salah besar Bukannya LINKIN PARK yg beli tapi KANGEN BAND sUmber : Ryan --- Kucing Tua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rekan-rekan, ada berita 40% inco dibeli linkin park? apaan maksudnya? sumbernya disini di bagian kanan, banyak yang memberikan pesan demikian, kira-kira apa maksudnya? mohon pencerahan. kebetulan saya punya inco yang lagi nyangkut Regards, Ilham D. Nurdhiansyah Technical Support HelpDesk Response System PT. Balisoft LintasMedia Jl. Buluh Indah No. 50C Denpasar 80118 Phone : 0361 418050 Fax : 0361 418049
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? CLOSE AJA AKH
sorry for the hassle.. i am not serious about this f*ckin elty. actually i don't have this f*ckin stock at 600 i just hope it will reach 600 at the end of this year... so i can buy a cup of coffee at starbucksoriginal starbucks...:p-- not indo starbuckshahahahahaha - Original Message - From: Halim To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR ( I don't think so! ) Technically ELTY forming Flag Penant dengan target 445 (D!SCLA!MER) Salam, \( ._.)/ Halim. - Original Message - From: JsxTrader To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR Kalo yg ini boleh lah untuk external.hehehe..., kira-kira ELTY mo kemana nih?? JsxTrader
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Performance emiten CPO di Q2/2008
Maaf bos, cuma opini pribadi aja. SMAR : Kalo Income Statement Kinclong banget. So, PER nya bikin ngiler. Tapi coba liat Balance Sheet. Liat DER-nya... Wooow, DER bisa 1,28 (Betapa lihainya beliau mr ETj dalam cr utang). Labanya ntar diinvest di China sana or buat mbayar utang. Ditinggal kabur ma konglomeratnya pun udah cuan (Semoga tidak lah). Kalo dibandingkan dengan AALI or SMGR, DER-nya cuma 0,3-an. Buat investor masih aman. Tapi disclaimerlah, buat temen2 yg mau beli SMAR ya silakan, wong duit2 anda sendiri. Tq. - Original Message - From: OB Help desk To: obrolan-bandar Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:01 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Performance emiten CPO di Q2/2008 Tingginya harga jual CPO pada Q2/2008 akan membuat Income Statement emiten2 CPO KINCLONG Terlampir Performance Keuangan Sinar Mas Agro yg BAGUS Penurunan PER oleh market merupakan antisipasi pasar terhadap penurunan harga CPO. Jadi bisa dibilang pasar sudah mendiscount terlebih dahulu kemungkinan harga CPO pada Q3 akan lebih rendah dibanding Q1 dan Q2 2008. PER SMAR saat ini MURAH BANGET yaitu 6,55 dibandingkan beberapa bulan yg lalu yaitu 16. Masih mau LEBIH MURAH LAGI ?. Mimpi kali ye hehehe
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR
thanks Bro,khusus LSIP dari senin hingga selasa kemarin BreWok dan Kivlan Zein ngumpulin terus tuh. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:04:48 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR Yg jelas JSMR dah under value. Jumat nanti analis meeting! Resiko turunnya lebih kecil dibanding yg lain but potential up. Nya terbuka! Sy kumpulin dr harga 1200! Turub pun msh kumpulin! Average 1.155! Buat anak cucu lah he he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: big_man99cool big_man99cool@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:43:47 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR BBNI LSIP JSMR,ada yg tahu saham ini mau dibawa kemana?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BBNI LSIP JSMR
LSIP sudah mencapai pivotnya di 7000 cuma swingnya LEBAR juga: LSIP median 7000, Swing 4000-1 Udah siap BOW di 4000-5000. disc always on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Big Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks Bro,khusus LSIP dari senin hingga selasa kemarin BreWok dan Kivlan Zein ngumpulin terus tuh. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:04:48 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR Yg jelas JSMR dah under value. Jumat nanti analis meeting! Resiko turunnya lebih kecil dibanding yg lain but potential up. Nya terbuka! Sy kumpulin dr harga 1200! Turub pun msh kumpulin! Average 1.155! Buat anak cucu lah he he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: big_man99cool big_man99cool@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:43:47 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR BBNI LSIP JSMR,ada yg tahu saham ini mau dibawa kemana?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] To : Master TA==== Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINSYD2876720080730?rpc=44 Harga baja kemungkinan akan naik karena tidak seimbang supply dan demand. On 7/30/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ?
:) YUP - sptnya over-shootings, over-estimate pra-kiraannya - terlalu ke atas, ke bawah. Happy Chuan, Aria From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of arif ahmadi Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:07 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ? Kalau dia dulu bilang mau ke 170 sampe sampe nya di 147 an sekarang dia bilang mau ke 70-80 ya paling turun ke 100 an lah. Wah gimana harga coal, CPO dan komoditi lainnya nanti? --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OIL 120 ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 1:39 AM Bisa2 aja nih OPEC,dulu yang bilang oil mo ke $170 juga si Chakib ini On 7/30/08, TH teddy.halim@ gmail.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oil falls to 12-week low on demand worries http://uk.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUKSYD10998620080729 Reuters UK, UK - 9 minutes ago OPEC President Chakib Khelil said on Tuesday oil could fall further to $70 to $80 a barrel in the long term but added he did not think the producer group ...
[obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
INFLOW-nya bukan ke Bank aja tetapi juga: Property, Consumer dan Infrastructure. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga Nickel
July 29 - A fire broke out at a southwestern Japan factory of world No. 2 Nippon Steel, halting some plant operations. Authorities said no injuries had been reported Tuesday at the Kitakyushu steel factory, which produces over 4 million tonnes a year. Dan Sloan reports, Reuters. Penolong tak terduga. On 7/30/08, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/08, ilham dwi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emang dulu nikel sampai 50.000 USD/ MT karena apa? Sekarang sdh jeblok gn jg karena apa? Dulu nikel sampai 50.000 usd/mt karena booming sektor properti di Amrik. (Booming thn 2004-2007) dan.. akhirnya meletus. duuor... sekarang jeblok karena sektor propertinya jeblok juga. mh. Sektor properti menyumbang sangat besar karena kitchen banyak menggunakan stainless steel.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
YUPE, Embah - spt ini clue-nya, yah : USD menguat2 (rallies) == OIL turun2 (banyak) == STOCK naek2. Happy Chuan, Aria From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jos_martino Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:08 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW...Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data INFLOW-nya bukan ke Bank aja tetapi juga: Property, Consumer dan Infrastructure. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Elaine Sui you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INFLOW-nya bukan ke Bank aja tetapi juga: Property, Consumer dan Infrastructure. Anda benar, cuman dari segi JUMLAH dan WAKTU JAUH berbeda... BANKING sudah dijadikan SAFE HEAVEN selama sebulan, yaitu saat embah rekomendasikan beli saham BANK pada tgl 1 July 2008, coba lihat INI: http://www.invest2000.net/080701banking.html Saham BANK pilihan naik KEREN ABIS DISAAT IHSG NYUNGSEP BERAT, padahal banyak orang menghindari saham bank... KENAPA ?. Gerakan harga sangat dipengaruhi oleh KEMANA DUIT BERGERAK. Kenapa DUIT selama sebulan terakhir mengalir ke BANK ?. Embah juga KAGA TAU kenapa, NOT SMART INVESTING yah... hehehe... Tapi coba tanya ama INSTITUSI yg beli saham bank selama sebulan terkahir, mereka pasti tau jawabannya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
Kira2 sektor mana yg lebih dulu dimasukin mBah? Ataukah masuk secara simultan dengan proporsi sesuai dengan PIE nya tante EL? Buat tante EL, komposisi PIE nya masih tetap atau ada adjustment? Barangkali mo ditambah CPO sikiiit aja mumpung CPO masih murah. Tq. - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW...Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BBNI LSIP JSMR
ikut nambahin yaw.. pokonya beli skg utk sham2 prospektif cerah trutama JSMR tu2p mata..apabila market rebound d smt2 JSMR bakal ke 2200 lagi.n 2009-2010 bisa dobel d 5000.. smua saham skg tuh DISCount ..ayo bruan cari yg paling gede.. Disclmr ON --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LSIP sudah mencapai pivotnya di 7000 cuma swingnya LEBAR juga: LSIP median 7000, Swing 4000-1 Udah siap BOW di 4000-5000. disc always on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Big Man big_man99cool@ wrote: thanks Bro,khusus LSIP dari senin hingga selasa kemarin BreWok dan Kivlan Zein ngumpulin terus tuh. - Original Message From: riil_investor@ riil_investor@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:04:48 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR Yg jelas JSMR dah under value. Jumat nanti analis meeting! Resiko turunnya lebih kecil dibanding yg lain but potential up. Nya terbuka! Sy kumpulin dr harga 1200! Turub pun msh kumpulin! Average 1.155! Buat anak cucu lah he he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: big_man99cool big_man99cool@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:43:47 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI LSIP JSMR BBNI LSIP JSMR,ada yg tahu saham ini mau dibawa kemana?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB...
Waduh, saya ko ngga nyaman ya dg Trub! Beberapa waktu lalu khan direksinya pada hengkang? Dengar2 mrk yg minta out dg alasan mau save? Lagian keseringan crossing pakai tx (dhanawibawa), barangnya banyak direpoin! Hati2 dah! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry� -Original Message- From: gusmar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:33:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB... TRUB Tinggal nunggu BULL nya aja, cari moment yg tepat. Sejak 17/7 harga dijaga ketat di level 770. Naik dikit guyur. Nunggu turun ? Paling dapetnya di 760. Buat yg mau koleksi masih ada kesempatan collect diharga tsb. Fundamental : bagus, proyeknya banyak. - Original Message - From: kennnsss To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:41 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB... For Pak DE, JSX Trader n Bung Ocoy Jika dilihat dgn menggunakan Freq Anal nya Pak DE, TRUB apakah lagi distribusi atau akumulasi ? Bagaimana Potensi saham TRUB secara fundamental n valuasi ? Mohon Pencerahan utk Newbiebanget ... Thx
[obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, saya mau belajar lagi nih.. saat ini cara baca yang saya pahami adalah kalau indikator merah turun berarti outflow sedangkan kalau naik berarti inflow. - apakah ada arti tersendiri ketika indikator merah berada di atas / di bawah candlestick ? Letaknya tidak berpengaruh. - apakah positive / negative divergence bisa diterapkan pada indikator merah tsb ? Tidak bisa diterapkan - apa diferensiasi indikator embah ini terhadap MFI ? MFI adalah MONEY FLOW 'BOONGAN', mana mungkin kita bisa tahu ada FUND INFLOW/OUTFLOW kebursa dari elemen price dan volume. saya terkesan wkt Embah bilang kalo inflow/outflow jarang meleset, jadi saya ingin lebih memahami indikator ini dengan labih baik. Thanks Embah 2008/7/30 jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] INFLOW-nya bukan ke Bank aja tetapi juga: Property, Consumer dan Infrastructure. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
Lalu bagaimana formulasi grafik INFLOW/OUTFLOWnya Embah, dan dasar2 pemikirannya seperti apa ? soalnya suka rada2 tengsin nih, udah jadi member OB tapi kelakuan masih seperti 'herds'. Apalagi pas diketawain si El. 2008/7/30 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah, saya mau belajar lagi nih.. saat ini cara baca yang saya pahami adalah kalau indikator merah turun berarti outflow sedangkan kalau naik berarti inflow. - apakah ada arti tersendiri ketika indikator merah berada di atas / di bawah candlestick ? Letaknya tidak berpengaruh. - apakah positive / negative divergence bisa diterapkan pada indikator merah tsb ? Tidak bisa diterapkan - apa diferensiasi indikator embah ini terhadap MFI ? MFI adalah MONEY FLOW 'BOONGAN', mana mungkin kita bisa tahu ada FUND INFLOW/OUTFLOW kebursa dari elemen price dan volume. saya terkesan wkt Embah bilang kalo inflow/outflow jarang meleset, jadi saya ingin lebih memahami indikator ini dengan labih baik. Thanks Embah 2008/7/30 jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] INFLOW-nya bukan ke Bank aja tetapi juga: Property, Consumer dan Infrastructure. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] re :Just Refresh ....TOll Roads (2) .... by yu
Ok kita siapkan gudang penampungan yg memadai u/ mulai akumulasi lagi besok . Bung riil_investor .. yg satu ini ibaratnya kapal perang jenis mother sheep ... bukan pemburu ...jadi mainnya tenang ...namun daya jelajahnya sgt jauh harganya hehehe ... just let's see what happened .. Discl on !!! Regards --- On Tue, 7/29/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] re :Just Refresh TOll Roads (2) by yu To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 9:06 AM Bener bung James, namun knp ko JSMR anteng2 aza ya? Kl lihat trx nya emang naik dr volumenya! Asing buy n sell! Anyway, sy ko ngga peduli urusan asing buy/sell? Asing ngga bisa dipercaya dah! Lihat kelakuan mrk di beberapa kejadian lalu? PGAS, BUMI dll. Buat sy JSMR buat anak cucu n sebagian unt cuan cuan short term lah! Yakin naik dah minggu ini! Amin! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: James Liem [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:03:29 -0700 (PDT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] re :Just Refresh TOll Roads (2) by yu schedule for analyst meeting dgn ybs hari jumat ini bila tdk ada perubahan . , yg naik kapal ini harus siap2 u/ long journey(khusus penumpang dewasa yg sdh siap menghadapi apapun resikonya), jadi perbekalan/stocknya mesti bener2 memadai biar nggak berhenti di tengah jalan .. dari sudut pandang kita (bisa salah) ... yg satu ini memiliki potensi dasar yg bagus u/ dibawa berlayar jauh (harganya) are u ready ??? Bung riil investor nampaknya anda jeli juga melihat manuver2nya yg terjadi just stay cool.. Discl On ... Regards Semuanya akan Indah tepat pada waktu NYA --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Jessya Martina Jessya Martina jessya.martina@ gmail.com wrote: From: Jessya Martina Jessya Martina jessya.martina@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just Refresh TOll Roads (2) by yu To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 8:43 PM SETUJU RP 1.700 target pertama 2008/7/27, riil_investor@ yahoo.com riil_investor@ yahoo.com: Emang bener bung James! Merem aja belinya! Bandar nya lg mainin harga agar dpt murah! Buangnya pakai asing (AK) n belinya pakai lokal (SP). Lihat aja tuh si lokal ngumpulin terus! Pastinya ada maksud maksud lain dah! Ngumpulinnya jg significant banget! So? Buy aja dong bung James? Akur dah! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: James Liem [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:25:30 -0700 (PDT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; stocksinfofree4all@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just Refresh TOll Roads (2) by yu masih ingatkah ...??? Tgl 13 Jully 2008 posting di milist lvl harga di 1090 - 1120 ...(vol masih relativ kecil) un told story speed test .. 1300 .. broom .. broom ... broommm .. TP 1700 Discl on !!! Regards Semuanya akan indah tepat pada waktu NYA
Re: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy
I do agree with you EL, Market moves based on facts and expectations --- Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Just a friendly advice. You will get CRAZY if you invest based on headlines. News is ALWAYS LATE and EXAGGERATED. If I were you, I will invest based on facts and expectations. Now, what is your expectations for this 2nd half? We have Olympic, Idl Fitr, US Election, Christmas. What'd ppl (market) react on these events..? Elaine** * On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: H...I am interest*ed* why you promoted Banking sectors for *so *many times Banks brace for more pain http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/25/news/companies/banks_wrapup/index.htm?postversion=2008072512 --- On *Tue, 22/7/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote: From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 1:33 PM * * *Friends, are you happy too? Finally, what I'm expecting is about to come. Right on! Buy now, get rich later. Tetapi jangan salah beli. Financials, Housing, Metals, Infrastructure, Construction, Auto. Energy and Agriculture will support IDX later whenever It needs to be supercharged, maybe next year. So don't worry.* *Well of course you can wait for further indicators if you wish. But for ME I'm confident enough with the market. Note that I'm not a trader nor a forecaster. Daily, volatility doesn't bother me much, right Kang Ocoy? ^_^ * * Elaine* Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: So happy happy happy
Baru baca berita di vibiznews banyaknya pembelian dari cina untuk olimpiade serta asia tengah dan india buat persiapan lebaran, apakah stock ini yang dimaksud El??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Just a friendly advice. You will get CRAZY if you invest based on headlines. News is ALWAYS LATE and EXAGGERATED. If I were you, I will invest based on facts and expectations. Now, what is your expectations for this 2nd half? We have Olympic, Idl Fitr, US Election, Christmas. What'd ppl (market) react on these events..? Elaine** * On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: H...I am interest*ed* why you promoted Banking sectors for *so *many times Banks brace for more pain http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/25/news/companies/banks_wrapup/index.htm?postversion=2008072512 --- On *Tue, 22/7/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote: From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 1:33 PM * * *Friends, are you happy too? Finally, what I'm expecting is about to come. Right on! Buy now, get rich later. Tetapi jangan salah beli. Financials, Housing, Metals, Infrastructure, Construction, Auto. Energy and Agriculture will support IDX later whenever It needs to be supercharged, maybe next year. So don't worry.* *Well of course you can wait for further indicators if you wish. But for ME I'm confident enough with the market. Note that I'm not a trader nor a forecaster. Daily, volatility doesn't bother me much, right Kang Ocoy? ^_^ * * Elaine* Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
Secara UMUMnya harga saham akan mengikuti MUSIMnya: - Jika IHSG turun maka harga2 saham akan turun - Jika Index regional turun maka harga2 saham akan turun. Tapi jika terjadi harga saham TIDAK TURUN saat IHSG turun, maka BISA DIPASTIKAN ada AKUMULASI meskipun MFI = 0 Makanya MFI itu 'BOONG' seperti kejadian hari Selasa kemarin ketika DJI turun dalam... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lalu bagaimana formulasi grafik INFLOW/OUTFLOWnya Embah, dan dasar2 pemikirannya seperti apa ? soalnya suka rada2 tengsin nih, udah jadi member OB tapi kelakuan masih seperti 'herds'. Apalagi pas diketawain si El.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Chart Gold
di kitco.com --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Saham Oke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Saham Oke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Chart Gold To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:31 AM Sya biasa monitor dari sini pak http://www.galmarle y.com/ Safe trading n cuan:-) --- On Wed, 7/30/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Chart Gold To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 9:23 AM Di mana bisa liat chart gold yang bisa dikasih indikator ya. Pengen tau, bottom gold di mana. thanks
[obrolan-bandar] US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials
US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials 30 Juli 2008 23:39:36 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates with Nasdaq turning negative) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - The Nasdaq turned negative on Wednesday, while the Dow and the SP 500 pared gains, as a rebound in oil prices and a drop in financial shares punctured Wall Street's earlier rally. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI rose 48.04 points, or 0.42 percent, to 11,445.60. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX inched up 4.22 points, or 0.33 percent, to 1,267.42. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC shed 7.11 points, or 0.31 percent, to 2,312.51. (Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu; Editing by Jan Paschal)
[obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials
Wah kalo oil rebound lagi gawat neh, soalnya bisa tambah kencang kayak kemarin.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials 30 Juli 2008 23:39:36 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates with Nasdaq turning negative) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - The Nasdaq turned negative on Wednesday, while the Dow and the SP 500 pared gains, as a rebound in oil prices and a drop in financial shares punctured Wall Street's earlier rally. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI rose 48.04 points, or 0.42 percent, to 11,445.60. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX inched up 4.22 points, or 0.33 percent, to 1,267.42. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC shed 7.11 points, or 0.31 percent, to 2,312.51. (Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu; Editing by Jan Paschal)
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials
Pertempuran belum selesai..., kita tunggu hasil akhirnya besok pagi... GoodNight All. JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of icchanks Sent: 30 Juli 2008 23:56 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials Wah kalo oil rebound lagi gawat neh, soalnya bisa tambah kencang kayak kemarin.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials 30 Juli 2008 23:39:36 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates with Nasdaq turning negative) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - The Nasdaq turned negative on Wednesday, while the Dow and the SP 500 pared gains, as a rebound in oil prices and a drop in financial shares punctured Wall Street's earlier rally. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI rose 48.04 points, or 0.42 percent, to 11,445.60. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX inched up 4.22 points, or 0.33 percent, to 1,267.42. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC shed 7.11 points, or 0.31 percent, to 2,312.51. (Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu; Editing by Jan Paschal) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1580 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 5:26 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials
Dua-duanya aja deh Dow Ijo tapi oil juga rebound, bisa gak yah?? soal punya finance and coal neh, hehhe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pertempuran belum selesai..., kita tunggu hasil akhirnya besok pagi... GoodNight All. JsxTrader -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of icchanks Sent: 30 Juli 2008 23:56 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials Wah kalo oil rebound lagi gawat neh, soalnya bisa tambah kencang kayak kemarin.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Wall St loses ground on oil, financials 30 Juli 2008 23:39:36 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates with Nasdaq turning negative) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - The Nasdaq turned negative on Wednesday, while the Dow and the SP 500 pared gains, as a rebound in oil prices and a drop in financial shares punctured Wall Street's earlier rally. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI rose 48.04 points, or 0.42 percent, to 11,445.60. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX inched up 4.22 points, or 0.33 percent, to 1,267.42. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC shed 7.11 points, or 0.31 percent, to 2,312.51. (Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu; Editing by Jan Paschal) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.7/1580 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 5:26 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Oil rebound, pesta bubar??
Wah Dj ijonya makin tipis, nasdaq malah merah, oil rebound, gimana neh???
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120
Pak Jos, bagaimana menghitung atau menentukan median seperti yang sudah bapak posting ? On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:11 PM, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INCO %swingnya cenderung lebih lebar dari ANTM: INCO median 5000, swing 3000-7000 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Jos, using the same logic, brp harga median dan swing utk inco? Rgds Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device -Original Message- From: jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:13:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita ini penyebab oil nyungsep ke $120 He..he..he..belum dong, bung AA sekarang khan oil masih $120, cuma kebetulan tebakan saya sama dengan Ketua OPEC. Apakah saya yakin? Ya, 90% yakin. Waktu OIL naik tidak wajar saya mulai mencari berapa harga wajar OIL dan ketemu $70-80. Kemudian berapa sih hrga wajar saham BUMI, AALI, ANTM kalo oil $70-an. Dengan acuan penurunan harga oil, perkiraan komoditinya akan turun dengan akselerasi yg sama, ketemu harga 4500, 18000, 2500. Seperti juga oil, saham komoditi setelah tercapai angkanya akan SIDEWAYS untuk konsolidasi, selanjutnya akan bergerak wajar sesuai supply- demand. Pertanyaannya kalo sideways berapa swingnya? Sekitar 20-30%. BUMI median 4500, swing 3500-5500 AALI median 18000, swing 14000-22000 ANTM median 2500, swing 2000-3000 Disc on rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, jos_martino jos_martino@ wrote: SIP JM: Kira-kira sama dengan prediksi saya bahwa OIL akan ke $70-80 . Jangan-jangan Pak Khelil ini baca postingan saya di OB.hs..hs..hs..LOL. Lalu bagaimana dengan tebakan saya: BUMI 4500, AALI 18000, ANTAM 2500 ...he..he.. Kalo sudah sampe akan SIDEWAY dengan median angka-angka tersebut. Makanya kalo beli ANTM di 2000, 500 point dah ditangan. Kalo beli di 1500, 1000 points bakal masuk kantong. Nah kalo mau BUMI beli di 3000-4000, at least 500-1500 points dah dapet. Bukan ngajak beli atau jual saham lho. Hebat Om. Tebakan Anda jitu sekali. Om Jos bisa menebak angkanya dengan akurasi yang tinggi. BTW, apa Om Jos yakin BUMI AALI dan ANTM akan SIDEWAYS di angka2 bawah tsb? Alasannya tolong disebutkan. tx
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga Nickel naik 3.9% (30 Jul 080
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=azjbO7o_...M
[obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Market close higher
Bagus lagi nih DJ tadi malem Dow http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI11,583.53+185.97+1.63%[image: Chart for Dow] http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI Top Stories *Oil Jumps $5 After Report Says Gas Supplies Fell*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/news/topnews/*http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080730/oil_prices.html- AP Oil prices are soaring, rising more than $5 a barrel after the government reported U.S. gasoline supplies fell unexpectedly last week. - Fed Extends Emergency Loan Program for Wall Streethttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080730/fed_credit_crunch.html- AP - Bush Signs Housing Bill to Provide Mortgage Reliefhttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080730/housing_bill.html- AP - Rally Loses Steam as Oil Prices Surgehttp://biz.yahoo.com/cbsm-top/080730/ab738c83ad23ae3f3236ff514b6d357d.html- MarketWatch - Private Sector Gains 9,000 Jobs in July: Reporthttp://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080730/usa_economy_employment_adp.html- Reuters - Government Announces Plans to Borrow $27 Billionhttp://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080730/federal_borrowing.html- AP
[obrolan-bandar] Siap2 buat Yang mau beli IPO trada maritime
ayo jangan ampe ketinggalan... mumpung indeks keliatannya mulai BULLISH. lokasi di scbd, parkiran semanggi expo (sama seperti ADARO). selengkapnya ke blog aja... semoga bermanfaat. Ahau http://ipostocks.blogspot.com
[obrolan-bandar] HORRE DOW AND OLI RALLY
Semua sektor bakal naik lagi, tanda alam sudah ada kan tadi malam (Mbah mulai sering posting lagi, hehehe Buat EL, apakah agri and coal masih akan menunggu rallynya next year ???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: waspadai harga oil kedepan
Oil shock: China's cars, accelerating a global demand for fuel waspada setelah olimpiade ada kemungkinan oil dan coal kembali ke harga atas: 40% oil dunia tuk transportasi di china, penurunan harga oil disebabkan pembatasan mobil pribadi di china, saham oke perkirakan harga oil tidak akan dibawah 120usd + perselisihan di nigeria + ramalan cuaca september kan adanya badai besar di beberapa negara pengahsil oil. Safe trading n cuan. tuk info berikut kutipan washington post Ariana Eunjung Cha, Washington Post ...Car ownership in China is exploding, and it's not only cars but also sport-utility vehicles, pickup trucks and other gas-guzzling rides. Elsewhere in the world, the popularity of these vehicles has tumbled as the cost of oil has soared. But in China, the number of SUVs sold rose 43 percent in May compared with the previous year, and full-size sedans were up 15 percent. Indeed, China's demand for gas is much of the reason for the dramatic run-up in global oil prices. China alone accounts for about 40 percent of the world's recent increase in demand for oil, burning through twice as much now as it did a decade ago. Fifteen years ago, there were almost no private cars in the country. By the end of last year, the number had reached 15.2 million... (29 July 2008) --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Saham Oke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Saham Oke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: waspadai harga oil kedepan To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 9:53 PM dear OBer Laporan dibawah ini tuk waspadai perkiraan harga oil kedepan.. Smoga bermanfaat, Safe trading and cuan:-) Peak oil review - July 28 by Tom Whipple Prod Pricesduction and Prices India’s EconomyChina after the OlympicsTNK-BPEnergy Briefs1. Production and PricesOil prices continued to fall last week, closing at $123 on Friday, a $24 per barrel drop since July 11th. US gasoline consumption continues to slip with MasterCard now reporting that sales are down by 3.3 percent compared to last summer. Analysts are projecting a 200,000 b/d increase in OPEC production for July.The fundamentals of the world oil balance remain the same, however. The drop in US consumption is well offset by increases in Chinese, Indian, Russian, and Middle East oil consumption. Mexican production continues to decline. Nigerian militants are threatening to blow up more pipelines in the near future and the debate continues as to whether non-OPEC production is about to peak, or can still grow for a couple of years. Speculators can oversell during a dearth of news as well as overbuy during times of heightened tensions.2. India’s EconomyIncreasing electric power and diesel shortages are raising serious questions as to whether India can maintain its rapid economic growth. The root cause is lack of rain and glacier melt for India’s hydro plants coupled with a rapid growth in demand and an aging electric infrastructure subject to increasingly frequent breakdowns.Until recently the blackouts, which appear to have enveloped much of the country, have been directed to rural and resident areas. As the shortages grow, however, blackouts are increasingly hurting industrial and commercial power users. Some rural consumers are now facing 12 to 18 hours of blackout per day while urban areas are talking of 5 to 7 hours of outages.As coping with these shortages falls on local and state governments, there has been an array of directives across the country focusing on reducing industrial and commercial consumption or balancing it with residential needs.The fallout for this has been a greatly increased demand for diesel to power offices and industrial concerns. In some areas, demand for diesel has tripled over last year and has increased by 40 percent in the last week – obviously far more than suppliers can cope with on a sustained basis. A “run on the pumps” has begun with hoarding and black marketeering becoming widespread. In many places supplies only last for a few hours after new deliveries.There is little Indian governments can do about the shortages except issue optimistic statements about better times ahead. Governments cannot control the rain or the melting of the glaciers and building new, increasingly costly generating facilities will take many years. Increased imports of oil, coal, and LNG are the only possible short term response, but new energy supplies will be hard to find and expensive.In light of the energy shortages, hopes for a nine percent increase in economic growth are dimming rapidly while prospects for an actual economic decline are appearing ever more likely. India’s economic miracle may be coming to a close more rapidly than anyone thought.3. China after the OlympicsThe numbers are now in, and China’s increase in oil product consumption during the first half of 2008 is truly impressive – “apparent consumption” of gasoline was up 16.2 percent,
[obrolan-bandar] Dow Coal : 607.86 + 41.81 (+ 7.39%) ...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJUSCL
[obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17
2008| 2007| 2006| 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3| -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- Opr prof/share 142 61| 74 346 278 110| 264 244 EPS 97 40| 55 256 193 77| 178 170 opr profit/share dan EPS pada Q3,Q2,Q1 2007 dan Q4,Q3 2006 diatas masih menggunakan Jumlah Share 150.000.000 belum di hitung jumlah Share 750.000.000. padahal JPRS sudah stock split 1:5 pada bln desember jadi harusnya tabel diatas juga menggunakan share 750jt. sehingga seharusnya seperti berikut : 2008| 2007| 2006| 29-07-08 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3| -- -- -- ==|-- -- -- ==|-- Opr prof/share 142 61| 74 69,2 55,6 22| 52,8 48,8 EPS 97 40| 55 51,2 38,6 15,4| 35,6 34 dari situ terlihat JPRS mengalami growth fantastic profit. salam hijauu --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mungkin maksudnya %margin naik(gross/opr profit/net profit) akibat peningkatan harga jual produknya(baja) cmiiw. On 7/30/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Situs : www.investdata.net Lg ga bisa dibuka, bandwith limit. Klo ada yg sdh bisa DOWNLOAD, file-nya bisa di sharing ke milis dunk. Saya liat LK JPRS (Q1Q2) tahun 2008: NET INCOME : naik, tp REVENUE : turun Penyebab penurunan REVENUE ini karena apa? Mgkn ada yg bisa ksh comment, yg tahu JEROAN-nya JPRS. Regards, PTLS Bisa minta--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote: 2008/7/30 OB Help desk ob.helpdesk@: Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest2000.net/080629JPRS.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. Iya Mbah. Darvaser pada nungguin break. Kalo datanya berantakan, jgn buka pake notepad, buka pake WordPad aja.
[obrolan-bandar] New INFLOW.......Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
Finance is good, so cheap, tapi yang jadi pertanyaan siapa berani drive finance ke atas lagi? ML lepas CDO pastilah dirasa udah pas harganya (harga finance sekarang is so so), ANZ + NAB disclosed losses di CDO pdhal sebelumnya bilang ah tenang saja. Ada pertanyaan, apa karena semakin bagus (UP) menyongsong pemulihan atau karena 'sudah tidak tahan lagi' (DOWN). Yang jadi masalah tidak ada transparansi di mereka. Fact: housing masih down (DOWN) tapi lost mereka juga seharusnya sudah berkurang (UP). Fase akumulasi mungkin sudah mulai terjadi, tapi untuk UP lebih lanjut, apa iya, duh ikutan bingung hehe :p BD FINANCE+PROPERTY mana nih yang berani $HOWELAINETHEMONEY, nah loh ditantangi Bu Elaine nih, bukan karena ingin switch sector lagi kan Bu?... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote: *$HOWMETHEMONEY :):) Elaine* Nih... gambar MONEY INFLOW yg baru http://www.invest2000.net/ihsgflow.png - Sebulan terakhir DUIT kabur dari sektor COMMODITY dan mengalir kesektor BANKING sebagai SAFE HEAVEN. - Selama itu jumlah OUFLOW dari sektor COMMODITY lebih besar dibanding INFLOW ke sektor BANKING, sehingga secara AGREGATE, BEI mengalami NET OUTFLOW seperti yg ditunjukan gambar. - Tapi pada dua hari terakhir, NETTING INFLOW dan OUTFLOW menunjukan angka POSITIF. Jadi terjadi NET SUBSCRIPTION ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (lihat lingkaran merah pada gambar). On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@wrote: Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING nular BEI. Tanda Alam BULLISH nih. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00) Provided by: Reuters News (Updates to open) NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in July and the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in turbulent financial markets. The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI was up 71.73 points, or 0.63 percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard Poor's 500 Index .SPX was up 5.68 points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC was up 9.50 points, or 0.41 percent, at 2,329.12. (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] U.S. Stocks Climb After Report Shows Job Growth, Commodities Shares Rally
By Eric Martin July 30 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks rallied, led by the biggest gain in energy shares in six years, after oil jumped by more than $4 a barrel and a private report showed an unexpected increase in jobs. All 39 energy producers in the Standard Poor's 500 Index advanced as crude climbed on a decline in gasoline inventories. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and Walt Disney Co. gained after ADP Employer Services said payrolls grew by 9,000 in July. Bank of America Corp. and Wachovia Corp. led financial shares higher after the Federal Reserve extended an emergency lending program and the Securities and Exchange Commission prolonged a ban on a type of short sale. The SP 500 added 21.06 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,284.26, capping its biggest two-day rally since April. The Dow Jones Industrial Average jumped 186.13, or 1.6 percent, to 11,583.69. The Nasdaq Composite Index increased 10.1 to 2,329.72. Almost two stocks rose for each that dropped on the New York Stock Exchange. ``A strong up day from energy is going to move the whole index,'' said James Gaul, a money manager at Boston Advisors LLC in Boston, which oversees $2 billion. ``Investors are looking for any excuse possible to push this market up. They're tired of being in a down market.'' Jobs Surprise The SP 500 extended its rebound from an almost three-year low on July 15 to 5.7 percent as nine of 10 industry groups advanced. Stocks rallied at the open after the ADP report defied economists' forecasts for a decrease of 60,000 jobs. Financial stocks briefly erased their advance around midday before rallying in the afternoon. Traders said the late-day gains resulted from investors covering bets that the shares would fall further because of oil's advance. European and Asian shares climbed and the dollar rose to a one-month high against the euro. The SP 500 Energy Index advanced 5.6 percent, its biggest gain since July 24, 2002, as crude oil for September delivery rose $4.58, or 3.8 percent, to $126.77 a barrel in New York. Exxon, the biggest U.S. crude producer, advanced 4.3 percent to $84.38, while Chevron, the No. 2, rallied 5.3 percent to $87.26. `Overwhelming News' ``Rising oil prices usually hurt the market but today it went up,'' said Giri Cherukuri, a money manager at Oakbrook Investments LLC in Lisle, Illinois, which oversees $1.4 billion. ``Enough other overwhelming news canceled out the oil price.'' Hess Corp. rose the most since 1981 after the fifth-largest U.S. oil company said second-quarter profit rose 62 percent on higher production and prices. Hess soared $12.72, or 14 percent, to $106.97. Cameron International Corp. rallied $3.24 to $49.82 after earnings topped estimates and the second-largest U.S. maker of oilfield equipment by market value forecast full-year earnings that would surpass a previous projection. Profits have topped estimates at almost three-quarters of the SP 500 companies that have reported second-quarter results so far even as profits slump 21 percent on average from a year earlier, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. As recently as July 3, analysts had forecast a drop of 11 percent in earnings. Forecasts for the third quarter have improved this week. The 73 companies that gave outlooks say profit will rise an average of 1.8 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That's up from 0.9 percent at the end of last week though below the 7.3 percent growth projected by analysts. Awaiting Labor's Report Wal-Mart, the largest retailer in the world, rose $1.11 to $58.56. Disney, the biggest theme-park operator, climbed 75 cents to $31.67. The ADP report isn't necessarily a guide to the Labor Department's numbers to be published Aug. 1. Four of the six previous ADP reports showed an increase in employment; all six of the government's estimates showed the workforce contracted. Private payrolls dropped by an average 94,000 a month from January through June, according to official figures, while ADP showed gains of almost 11,000 on average. Freddie Mac gained 31 cents, or 3.7 percent, to $8.73 and Fannie Mae added 61 cents, or 5.3 percent, to $12.21 after the SEC extended until Aug. 12 an emergency limit on so-called naked short sales in shares of the mortgage-finance companies and 17 brokerages as it prepares broader rules to thwart stock manipulation. The order aims to keep traders from driving down financial stocks to boost profits after Bear Stearns Cos. and IndyMac Bancorp Inc. collapsed amid rumors they were faltering. `Fragile Circumstances' The Fed extended two emergency lending programs until Jan. 30, 2009, ``in light of continued fragile circumstances in financial markets,'' the central bank said. The Primary Dealer Credit Facility for direct loans to securities firms and the Term Securities Lending Facility for loans of Treasuries, both begun in March, ``would be withdrawn should the board determine that
[obrolan-bandar] Bull at the Gate
Friends, keliatannya kita sekarang sudah memasuki period Late Contraction di dalam Economic Cycle. Period ini ditandai oleh market bottom, dimana harga2 commodities pada anjlok, bonds up, financials and consumer cyclicals up. Dow masih di down trend channel dengan upper channel ada di kisaran 12,500, so masih dalam tahapan swing rally, dan untuk mengetahui apakah rally berubah bull kita masih perlu memonitor apakah sektor perumahan disana mulai recover. Selama tanda2 itu belum keliatan, maka recovery masih akan lama. Bear in mind, di kantong para big FM disana -dari Citi, JPM, Merrill, etc. - lies a gigantic provision for asset write-down, hundreds of billion dollars. Artinya, kalau ada tanda2 reversal di economic cycle, sektor perumahan recover, maka provision sebesar mammoth ini akan di WRITE BACK, and the BULL will be coming. Bagi market kita, suka atau tidak suka the last hurdle adalah Pemilu April 2009. Don't expect index akan new high sebelum pemilu selesai, jadi in between kita maseh BOW-SOS But, begitu selesai dan the new leader is elected,,,(jangan salah pilih leader ya, ntar kasus kita bisa kayak Zimbabwe lho). BTW, bagi saya oil story is OVER, kalau ada beberapa rebound, itu cuman buat FM bersih-bersih barang. Oil won't go any further. Let's discuss!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: VICTORY Formation (2278)
regional terus ijo. aord open plus 1,42%, bhp.ax open plus 2,65%. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kok malah mirip G-String Mbah ? Kabu --- On Wed, 30/7/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] VICTORY Formation (2278) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2008, 12:27 AM VICTORY Formation Embah kirim update grafik IHSG http://www.trader20 00.com/piwihsg. png Terlihat terbentuknya formasi V atau Victory... Mudah mudahan dengan terbentuknya formasi Victory ini, market akan lebih BERMURAH HATI pada investor dan trader... Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] TBLA -EPS 1H08 = 58
The hottest kid on the block is back. Dengan EPS 1H08 = 58 dan harga sekarang adalah 590, are you dumb?? 2Q adalah masa2 sulit bagi CPO, tapi 2H will be getting even better. CPO is no oil substitute, but when oil gets hot CPO will get even hotter.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17
Des 2007 ( liat lapkeu 31des 2007, poin 27) Perusahaan membeli bahan baku slab senilai US42.110.940. atau senilai ( 385 Milyar ) untuk 72.200 MT Slab. jadi harga rata2 bahan baku Slab 583 USD per MT. Hasil Produksi JPRS per 30 juni 08 itu sudah mencapai 68.422 ton.. sebagian besar ( 22.042 ton berasal dari produksi plat, penjualan bahan baku 42.050ton). Sisa persediaan pembelian tahun lalu, asumsinya persediaan awal 0, = 72.200-68.422= +/- 3778ton. @ 583 usd per MTPada lapkeu 31juni 2008 : ada uang muka pembelian impor senilai rp 20.854.369.900 liat poin 8 lapkeu 31juni 2008. Uang muka biasanya 10%.. pertanyaannya berapa banyak MT yg di impor ?, berapa harga rata2 bahan baku slab yg di impor tahun ini ?ini tidak ada dalam notes to financial statement .. ada yg bisa cari ? --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Wahyu M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Wahyu M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 3:56 AM penjualan turun tapi laba tetap tinggi kemungkinan : - kenaikan penjualan bukan dari segi qty tapi karena harga jual naik dan COGS rendah - COGS rendah karena harga pokok pembelian raw materialnya masih murah (cek stok raw material di LK Q1 deh...nimbun? ) kalo raw material murahnya udah abis penjualan turun lagi (dlm qty)...nah loo :) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: petualang.saham@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:22:54 + Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JPRS update PER = 4,17 Situs : www.investdata. net Lg ga bisa dibuka, bandwith limit. Klo ada yg sdh bisa DOWNLOAD, file-nya bisa di sharing ke milis dunk. Saya liat LK JPRS (Q1Q2) tahun 2008: NET INCOME : naik, tp REVENUE : turun Penyebab penurunan REVENUE ini karena apa? Mgkn ada yg bisa ksh comment, yg tahu JEROAN-nya JPRS. Regards, PTLS Bisa minta--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/30 OB Help desk ob.helpdesk@ ...: Terlampir JPRS Financial Performance q2/2008 Jika attachmentnya berantakan, gunakan FIX WIDTH FONT pada MESSAGE OPTION nya yahoo... PER JPRS saat ini 4,17 pada harga 810, dulu saat rekomendasi di http://www.invest20 00.net/080629JPR S.html masih diharga 490 dengan PER 3. Sekarang JPRS lagi mencoba BREAK upper Darvas Box.. Iya Mbah. Darvaser pada nungguin break. Kalo datanya berantakan, jgn buka pake notepad, buka pake WordPad aja. Always-on security tools provide safer ways to connect and share anywhere. Find out more. Windows Live
