[ob] indomie bikin happy si hepi..

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik artomoro9


jam 13.38 ihsg  2194 +12 = 0.55%

indf bid 2150.

makan indomie bikin hep...(ya kan neng hepi..?)

ykkmar...

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[ob] BLTA

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Bayu Kusuma
Prof JT gimana ya BLTA profcukup ga ya volumenya hari ini buat 
masukThanks:)



  

Re: [ob] BLTA

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik VF ™
Prof JT lg cari cangcut ditempat fitness.. Hh...

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Subject: [ob] BLTA


Prof JT gimana ya BLTA profcukup ga ya volumenya hari ini buat 
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[ob] Fwd: Fw: (BN) Bukit Asam Says First-Half Profit More Than Doubled on

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Rei
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[ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
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Re: [ob] BLTA

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Ane masih diluar nih, masih off screen..., jangan cuma liat volume pak, liat 
juga harganya, kalo ngga kuat close diatas 830 sih agak berabe, kalo tembus itu 
baru cakep, ntar sorean ane liatin dah..


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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:13:24 
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Subject: [ob] BLTA


Prof JT gimana ya BLTA profcukup ga ya volumenya hari ini buat 
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[ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Henry Liem
Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S  R
nya ?

hatur nuhun sebelumnya


Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah berapa 
pak??
 
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik beckham_joe

Wah sesuai prediksi iching lagi nih, kalo bisa close higher.

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From: Charles Atmaja charles_3...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Thomas Frederick
Hampir 400rb lot pakk... Ayo balik2...
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From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:47:05 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah berapa 
pak??
 
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


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Re: [ob] BLTA

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Bayu Kusuma
cocok dah prof analisanya.thanks prof:)

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Subject: Re: [ob] BLTA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 3:42 AM






 





  
   Ane masih diluar nih, masih off screen..., jangan cuma liat volume pak, liat 
juga harganya, kalo ngga kuat close diatas 830 sih agak berabe, kalo tembus itu 
baru cakep, ntar sorean ane liatin dah..

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:13:24 -0700 (PDT)
To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] BLTA
 Prof JT gimana ya BLTA profcukup ga ya volumenya hari ini buat 
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Re: [ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Wah, lupa euy.., kalo gak salah support kuat indf di 2000-2050, inco ane lupa, 
tapi kalo yg ane inget, jika inco bisa close above yesterday high, it is safe 
to hold dan cenderung keatas... Insya Allah.


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From: Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:51:09 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)


Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S  R
nya ?

hatur nuhun sebelumnya



[ob] CROSSING???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Olive
Mohon petunjuk senior2, net buy asing segini gede ada crossing ga ya? Thx


  

Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
ampir 400rb Prof... blm banyak si.. tapi kalo ampe ntar tutup vol tebel lagi 
kan mantep.. hehehehe

right now di 2125... gara2 udah mau cum kali ya?
Ato gara2 Jendral arto pasang musik dangsut hihihi :)





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Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah berapa 
pak??

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From: Charles Atmaja 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

Wow... ada apa ni???
tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan...

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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik yosua
baru 400rban prof,makanya jangan liat cangcut ditempat lain...ntar ketinggalan 
yang disini prof..hehehe

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From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 2:47 PM

 
   Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah 
berapa pak??
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
Wow... ada apa ni???tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan...
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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Yaaa.., 400 rebu lot utk bumi mah masih kecil dong, rata2nya kalo ngga salah 1 
juta'an

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Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Hampir 400rb lot pakk... Ayo balik2...
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From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:47:05 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah berapa 
pak??
 
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From: Charles Atmaja charles_3...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Wow... ada apa ni???
tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan


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Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
masih kurang 250 ribu lot lagi...market tinggal sejam lagi...mudah2an bisa

Dario Amran

--- Pada Sen, 27/7/09, Charles Atmaja charles_3...@yahoo.com menulis:

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Tanggal: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009, 2:58 PM






 





  ampir 400rb Prof... blm banyak si.. tapi kalo ampe ntar tutup 
vol tebel lagi kan mantep.. hehehehe
 
right now di 2125... gara2 udah mau cum kali ya?
Ato gara2 Jendral arto pasang musik dangsut hihihi :)





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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009 14:47:05
Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

  

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pak??

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From: Charles Atmaja 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???



Wow... ada apa ni???
tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan...


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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
UNVR ditarik, BUMI ditarik 1/2 hati...ASII turun, asing net buy 320 
M...distribusi di market ?

Dario Amran

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Tanggal: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009, 2:56 PM






 





Hampir 400rb lot pakk... Ayo balik2...From:  JT™ 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:47:05 +
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
 
   Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah 
berapa pak??
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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
Wow... ada apa ni???tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan...
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Re: [ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik yosua
prof yang kagak enak bnbr,volume udah sejuta tapi harga kagak naik-naik,msih 
pegang prof?

--- On Mon, 7/27/09, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 2:52 PM

 Wah, lupa euy.., kalo gak salah support kuat indf di 2000-2050, inco ane 
lupa, tapi kalo yg ane inget, jika inco bisa close above yesterday high, it is 
safe to hold dan cenderung keatas... Insya Allah.

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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”From:  Henry Liem 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:51:09 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
  Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S 
 R nya ?

hatur nuhun sebelumnya
  


  

Re: [ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Henry Liem
thanks a lot prof, nanti kl sdh dpn kompie tlg ulas ya dgn update dasar vol
hari ini...

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Wah, lupa euy.., kalo gak salah support kuat indf di 2000-2050, inco ane
 lupa, tapi kalo yg ane inget, jika inco bisa close above yesterday high, it
 is safe to hold dan cenderung keatas... Insya Allah.

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 *From*: Henry Liem
 *Date*: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:51:09 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: [ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
 Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S 
 R nya ?

 hatur nuhun sebelumnya
   



Re: [ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Henry Liem
BG nanti menjelang pemilihan ketum golkar...skrg msh blom ada komando si
super boz..

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 prof yang kagak enak bnbr,volume udah sejuta tapi harga kagak
 naik-naik,msih pegang prof?

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 From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 2:52 PM



 Wah, lupa euy.., kalo gak salah support kuat indf di 2000-2050, inco ane
 lupa, tapi kalo yg ane inget, jika inco bisa close above yesterday high, it
 is safe to hold dan cenderung keatas... Insya Allah.

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 “The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The
 Law of Supply and Demand”

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 *From*: Henry Liem
 *Date*: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:51:09 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 *Subject*: [ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
 Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S 
 R nya ?

 hatur nuhun sebelumnya


  



Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Tommy Yu
ini diem lagi hehe..banyak yg buang kiri malah


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2009/7/27 Charles Atmaja charles_3...@yahoo.com



 Wow... ada apa ni???
 tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan...

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Re: [ob] CROSSING???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Tommy Yu
Lihat aja di summary market detail.
crossing today ngak ada ZERO
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 Mohon petunjuk senior2, net buy asing segini gede ada crossing ga ya? Thx



 



[ob] Ini Dia Skenario Penanda Krisis Berakhir

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Hendri Cendra Arcan
http://bisniskeuangan.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/07/27/1331439/Ini.Dia.Skenario.Penanda.Krisis.Berakhir

Senin, 27 Juli 2009 | 13:31 WIB
JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com — United Nation Conference on Trade and
Development (UNCTAD) meramal, akan ada tiga skenario yang mungkin
terjadi dan menandakan tahun berakhirnya krisis global dengan
peningkatan Foreign Direct Investment (FDI). Ketiga skenario tersebut
antara lain Skenario V, Skenario U, dan Skenario L.

Ekonom UNCTAD, Alessandro Nicita, menguraikan, Skenario V
memperkirakan, krisis global akan usai akhir tahun 2009. Asumsinya,
FDI mulai naik karena kepercayaan investor mulai pulih akibat berbagai
stimulus ekonomi yang ditawarkan pemerintah.

Kemudian, skenario U, FDI akan menurun sepanjang 2009-2010 dan mulai
merangkak pada 2011. Asumsinya, resesi masih memburuk dan Amerika
mengalami defisit, serta FDI tidak meningkat secara signifikan.
Skenario kedua ini yang paling mungkin terjadi, terutama menurut
pandangan berbagai perusahaan, katanya di Jakarta, Senin (27/7).

UNCTAD yang bermarkas di Jenewa, Swiss, juga menjelaskan, melalui
Skenario L, FDI diprediksi tidak akan naik sebelum 2012. Hal ini
dikarenakan berbagai negara kemungkinan kian getol menerapkan
proteksionisme, dan makin memburuknya keuangan berbagai
perusahaan-perusahaan. (Yohan Rubiyantoro/Kontan)




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Re: [ob] INDF INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Itu namanya akumulasi.., tungguin aja, ntar kalo BD dah kelar ngumpulin, pasti 
ngajak2 lah, cuma kite bakal disuruh makan atas..., hehehe

Wah, si Mbah akhir tahun bakal nyabak dokat neh.., hehe

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:12:42 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)


prof yang kagak enak bnbr,volume udah sejuta tapi harga kagak naik-naik,msih 
pegang prof?

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Subject: Re: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 2:52 PM

 Wah, lupa euy.., kalo gak salah support kuat indf di 2000-2050, inco ane 
lupa, tapi kalo yg ane inget, jika inco bisa close above yesterday high, it is 
safe to hold dan cenderung keatas... Insya Allah.

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Subject: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
  Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S 
 R nya ?

hatur nuhun sebelumnya
  


  


Re: [ob] CROSSING???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Ng adanya
Jd f net buy cuma 300bil..yg 100bil di ng indy
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Lihat aja di summary market detail.


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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik danny . eugene
FYI, BUMI berencana membagikan dividend sebesar Rp 50.60. Cum date 29/7, ex 
date 30/7  distribution date 18/8. Dengan menggunakan harga di 2100 maka 
dividend yield sebesar 2.41%.

Semoga bermanfaat.

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ini diem lagi hehe..banyak yg buang kiri malah


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[ob] Eropa dibuka ijo royo, DJ Fut masih ijo

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Henry Liem
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RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Ane Baru cek intraday nih., hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok.,  kalo
nyangkut temennya banyak kok.. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin.,
ngga terima complain ya.. he

 

Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
100% fool Proof.

 

JT

 

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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik d...@ob
Iya prof, di 2100-nya tadi gila ²* an...
Heheheehe...
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Ane Baru cek intraday nih., hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok.,  kalo
nyangkut temennya banyak kok.. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin.,
ngga terima complain ya.. he

 

Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
100% fool Proof.

 

JT

 

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RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Ferry
Si Icing memang moii dah..

 

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Ane Baru cek intraday nih., hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok.,  kalo
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ngga terima complain ya.. he

 

Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
100% fool Proof.

 

JT

 

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Re: [ob] Eropa dibuka ijo royo, DJ Fut masih ijo

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Hati2
Unvr nya yg dpake nyelametin idx
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[ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik pram
Tanya, kenapa?


Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Malah +10.6% closenya
Nyumbang kenaikan index 11poin
Ama tlkm udah 17pts
Sama aja idx cm naik6poin hr ini..
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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik cipto_jh
Mumpung masih gretong-an neh.. 
Makasie pak Wim.. :)

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 Ane Baru cek intraday nih., hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
 resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok.,  kalo
 nyangkut temennya banyak kok.. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin.,
 ngga terima complain ya.. he
 
  
 
 Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
 100% fool Proof.
 
  
 
 JT
 
  
 
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2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
sekalian dapet deviden ya prof? :)

BTW, prof mau tanya kalo cumd ate kan tanggal di mana kalo kita lagi pegang 
saham kita dapet deviden... trus kalo ex date itu apa? sori pertanyaan 
amatiran.. daripada salah mengerti mendingan nanya deh hehe





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Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo, 
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok…,  kalo 
nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin…, ngga 
terima complain ya.. he
 
Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not 
100% fool Proof.
 
JT
 
 
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2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Pitt The Wid
Investor yang membeli atau memiliki saham perusahaan mulai pada tanggal yang
ditentukan sebagai ex-date ini tidak berhak untuk memperoleh dividen yang
dibagikan oleh perusahaan. Thanks.

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 sekalian dapet deviden ya prof? :)

 BTW, prof mau tanya kalo cumd ate kan tanggal di mana kalo kita lagi pegang
 saham kita dapet deviden... trus kalo ex date itu apa? sori pertanyaan
 amatiran.. daripada salah mengerti mendingan nanya deh hehe

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  Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek
 monggo, resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel
 besok-besok…,  kalo nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak,
 Cuma ngomporin…, ngga terima complain ya.. he



 Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
 100% fool Proof.



 JT



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Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik coderman
Sungkem sama mbah iching ..


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 Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
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 nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin…,
 ngga terima complain ya.. he



 Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
 100% fool Proof.



 JT



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Re: [ob] 6 days to go, monkeys, have you sell your portofolios?

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Nabila
Setelah tulisan saya terakhir tanggal 3 Mei yang lalu mengenai kemana IHSG 
mengarah, ternayata IHSG masih melanjutkan rally mencapai puncak tertinggi 
tahun ini di level 2199. Pencapaian yang luar biasa, dipandu dengan brilian 
oleh Embah dan Jendral Artomoro.
Seperti yang disampaikan senbelumnya, target Elaine IHSG 1600 dibulan Juni 2009 
telah dicapai lebih awal pada pertengahan April 2009. Ketika IHSG melewati 
level 2100, target untuk akhir Desember 2009 telah tercapai 5-6 bulan lebih 
awal. Sebagai seorang investor, Elaine tentu saja boleh-boleh saja untuk 
melakukan profit taking ketika tergetnya telah tercapai lebih awal dari 
rencana. Saya melakukannya. Ketika Embah mengatakan bahwa tidak bijak untuk 
mulai berinvestasi (long term) disaat IHSG sudah mencapai 2100, saya malah 
memutuskan untuk menjual sebagian besar portofolio jangka panjang saya. Buat 
apa? Ketika risk  reward (untuk long term Investment), mending ikut Jendral 
Artomoro, JT, Billy dan banyak trader lainnya, bersilancar ditengah amukan 
gelombang. Sudah lebih sebulan terakhir saya fokus melakukan short term trading 
menggunakan peta yang disediakan cuma-cuma oleh Embah (bukankah pernah saya 
katakan bahwa peta Embah itu luar biasa sederhananya, sehingga membuat kita 
tidak mudah nyasar?).

Sekarang bagaimana selanjutnya? IHSG memang sudah naik banyak sejak terendahnya 
 8 bulan lalu, nyaris naik 100%. Saya rasa banyak pihak, terutama long term 
investor, akan sangat tergoda untuk mulai memetik keuntungan. Tapi disaat yang 
sama, bursa saham kita termasuk gadis cantik yang menarik banyak investor 
lainnya. Saat ini, pasar modal kita tengah berada dipersimpangan jalan. Tapi 
yang jelas, sudah cukup tinggi sehingga cenderung mengundang profit taking dan 
agak kemahalan bagi yang baru mau mulai berinvestasi.

Lalu beberapa hari yang lalu Elaine mulai menyampaikan pandangan yang berbeda 
dari sebelumnya. Berdasarkan beberapa argumen fundamental, Elaine berkesimpulan 
bahwa ternyata krisis keuangan yang melanda dunia masih jauh dari selesai, 
dampaknya masih akan terasa dalam waktu tidak lama lagi. Ditambah dengan 
beberapa krisis susulan seperti nuklir Korea Utara dan permasalahan Pilpres, 
maka Elaine lebih memilih untuk keluar dari bursa saham dan mengalihkan 
investasinya ketempat lain.

Mencermati perdebatan yang ditimbulkan pernyataan Elaine tersebut di milis OB, 
saya merasa ada sesuatu yang tidak nyambung antara Elaine dengan sebagian 
Obers. Perlu dipahami bahwa Elaine seorang investor (long term), bukan (short 
term) traders seperti yang banyak terdapat di milis OB. Elaine melihat dari 
sisi fundamental, tidak begitu peduli dengan analisa teknikal (TA). Mungkin 
pemahaman Elaine terhadap TA hanya diperlukan untuk menentukan entry dan exit 
poin belaka. Sementara mayoritas traders di OB, yang umumnya menggunakan TA, 
masih melihat bahwa saat ini (dan jangka pendek kedepan), IHSG masih diposisi 
bullish trend. Jelas tidak nyambung karena alat ukur yang digunakan tidak sama 
dan dengan cakrawala pandang yang berbeda pula.

Lalu bagaimana menyikapi perbedaan ini? Bagi saya sederhana saja. Dari 
pengalaman masa lalu, saya tidak mungkin memandang remeh pendapat Elaine, 
karena dia telah membuktikan ketajaman analisanya sebelum ini. Elaine selalu 
yang paling duluan mengatakan bearish ketika semua orang masih bullish, begitu 
pula sebaliknya.  Akibatnya Elaine seringkali dicurigai dan cenderung mendapat 
perlawanan dimilis OB. Jujur saja, saya selamat dari kejatuhan pasar modal 
tahun lalu dan kemudian memetik keuntungan lumayan ketika rebound  tahun ini 
lebih karena saya mendengarkan dan menghargai pandangannya. Lalu mengapa kali 
ini saya harus berada diposisi yang berlawanan? Oleh karena itu, saya saat ini 
sudah tidak lagi menyimpan portofolio jangka panjang. Seperti telah 
berulangkali dinasehatkan oleh yang lebih tua, tingkat resiko sudah lebih besar 
dari peluang keuntungan. Tapi selama IHSG masih terus menjajal posisi 
tertingginya, saya sudah sejak beberapa saat yang lalu menjadi (short term) 
trader sepenuhnya dan berada di belakang Jendral Artomoro, JT, Billy dan banyak 
lainnya. Tentu saja dengan money management yang semakin hati-hati, batasan 
trailing stop dan cutloss yang kian ketat dan siap-siap kabur jika market tidak 
lagi bersahabat. Sederhana bukan? Apalagi Embah sudah mulai omong-omong soal 
nge-short...walah.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Elaine Sui 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [ob] 6 days to go, monkeys, have you sell your portofolios?


I said it when IDX was 1300 in March, that IDX would rally 300pts until 
June, but it actually reached sooner in late April. It's on Nabila's review if 
you remember. You're not following my posts correctly.. hey wait.. are you 
FOLLOWING ME? lolz.. I understand that my bear messages are against the market 
(now), well you're free *not* to follow.

  I give FREE opinions, I don't charge you for 

Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik brainfuchs
Yoi, TA is not 100% fool, prof hehehe...

--bf


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  Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek
 monggo, resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel
 besok-besok…,  kalo nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak,
 Cuma ngomporin…, ngga terima complain ya.. he



 Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
 100% fool Proof.



 JT



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 ini diem lagi hehe..

 banyak yg buang kiri malah




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[ob] PTBA 12750 vs UNTR 11600 (to : PROF JT)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik D0N Qicot
Prof JT,

PTBA sudah matang pohon nich
ngak perlu di karbit.

btw, saya mau tanya donk...pada saat PTBA 11700 prof JT bilang volume harus 
diatas 25ribu...
cara liat volume 25 ribu dimana prof..?

di yahoo : AVg Vol (3m) 7.000.000


Pertanyaan kedua :
UNTR dan PTBA memilik gerak dan pola yg sama.
Kemarin PTBA di tahan naik, hari ini bijinya melejit...
Hari ini giliran UNTR di tahan naik...besok apakah ikut melejit juga...?
Hari ini UNTR volume lebih rendah di banding kemarin...
butuh volume berapa agar bisa melejit seperti PTBA...?


Thanx Prof JT yg baik dan toeloes.

 




  

Re: Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik ND
Ex date maksudnya yang sudah tidak berhak dapat deviden.

Ex date satu hari setelah cum date.

Kalo hari ini cum, besoknya ex date.

Kalo beli pada saat cum, berhak dapat deviden, kalo beli pada saat ex, tidak 
berhak..

Salam,

Nd

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:02:39 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


sekalian dapet deviden ya prof? :)

BTW, prof mau tanya kalo cumd ate kan tanggal di mana kalo kita lagi pegang 
saham kita dapet deviden... trus kalo ex date itu apa? sori pertanyaan 
amatiran.. daripada salah mengerti mendingan nanya deh hehe





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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009 15:43:38
Judul: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

  
Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo, 
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok…,  kalo 
nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin…, ngga 
terima complain ya.. he
 
Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not 
100% fool Proof.
 
JT
 
 
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On Behalf Of Tommy Yu
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To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
 


ini diem lagi hehe..
banyak yg buang kiri malah
 

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Re: [ob] CROSSING???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Olive
Thx I got it now,
boleh tau bumi kapan dividennya?

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Subject: Re: [ob] CROSSING???
To: OB  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:35 AM


Ng adanya
Jd f net buy cuma 300bil..yg 100bil di ng indy
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:18:10 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] CROSSING???


  



Lihat aja di summary market detail.


crossing today ngak ada ZERO
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Mohon petunjuk senior2, net buy asing segini gede ada crossing ga ya? Thx







  





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Re: [ob] DOJI TRUB

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik thomher69
Coba nebak , tutup doji

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:46:46 
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Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Si Icing memang moii dah..

 

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On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

 

  

Ane Baru cek intraday nih., hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok.,  kalo
nyangkut temennya banyak kok.. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin.,
ngga terima complain ya.. he

 

Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
100% fool Proof.

 

JT

 

bumi.png

 

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On Behalf Of Tommy Yu
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ini diem lagi hehe..

banyak yg buang kiri malah

 


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[ob] CPO

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik andiyanto dharmawan
El Nino Kembali, Saham Perkebunan Akan Outperform - Goldman Sachs

* Australian Bureau of Meteorology dan US NOAA mengumumkan El Nino akan 
kembali datang di akhir tahun 2009. 
El Nino merupakan fenomena hangat yang memberikan tendensi negatif untuk 
produksi 
perkebunan namun bagus untuk harga yang akan mengalami kenaikan sehingga 
memberikan 
sentimen positif atas perusahaan perkebunan. 

* Namun, walaupun tanpa adanya El Nino , Fundamental harga CPO akan tetap 
Bullish, terkait: 
- melambatnya pertumbuhan produksi CPO ( dari stress yield dan insentif 
replanting atau penanaman kembali 
di Malaysia) 
- persedian kedelai yang kuat 
- naiknya harga minyak 
- perintah pemerintah untuk penggunaan bio-diesel meningkat 
- permintaan minyak sayur (edible oil) global tidaklah mudah 
(goldman/fz) 


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Re: Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Ex dev hari guyur2an, yg cuma ngarepin dev bakal kabur hari itu... Hehehe
  
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:02:39 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


sekalian dapet deviden ya prof? :)

BTW, prof mau tanya kalo cumd ate kan tanggal di mana kalo kita lagi pegang 
saham kita dapet deviden... trus kalo ex date itu apa? sori pertanyaan 
amatiran.. daripada salah mengerti mendingan nanya deh hehe





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Terkirim: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009 15:43:38
Judul: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

  
Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo, 
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok…,  kalo 
nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin…, ngga 
terima complain ya.. he
 
Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not 
100% fool Proof.
 
JT
 
 
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On Behalf Of Tommy Yu
Sent: 27 Juli 2009 15:17
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
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ini diem lagi hehe..
banyak yg buang kiri malah
 

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RE: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Sanjaya
Mantap …. Testimoni Pak Boyz utk Pak. JT

 

Bravo and Lanjutkan …. Pak JT :)

 

Walaupun saya belum pernah ketemu Pak JT secara langsung, tapi sudah ada
bayangan profile Pak JT . 

Lagi planning utk ikut kursus Pak JT jika ada waktu luang (cuti).

 

Salam,

Sanjaya

 

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Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:28 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bls: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

 

  

JT's profile on my records,
baru nongol di OB akhir thn 2007, belum terlalu menonjol sampai pertengahan
2008.
(eh apa sebelum itu udah ya? tau deh. tapi baru masuk radar at  pertengahan
2008).

Selama di OB, banyak pendekar-pendekar bermunculan. Easy come and easy go...
Dengan melihat posting-2 nya, bisa kita nilai kerendahan hati-nya ataupun
ketinggian ego-nya.
Dari situ pula dapat diperkirakan panjang/pendek umurnya di OB, hehehe...

Kalau yg udah cukup lama di OB, mungkin masih ingat kalau saya pernah
posting ttg:
Di dunia persilatan ini, hanya pendekar berilmu tinggi yang mempunyai
kerendahan hati yg akan bertahan. 
Yang berilmu tinggi tapi tinggi hati, akan cepat mati. Apalagi yang baru
turun gunung sudah petantang-petenteng merasa ilmunya tak terkalahkan...

Nah, Bro JT ini termasuk Pendekar berilmu tinggi yang mempunyai kerendahan
hati.
Seinget gw sewaktu JT mulai populer...  dalam memposting, feedback posting,
memberikan analisa, ataupun dalam meng-counter analisa orang lain, belum
pernah terkesan sombong atau arogan, apalagi ngeles.Kadang2 pernah sih,
but we knew that he was kidding.
Saat itu, saat membaca beberapa postingan bro JT, gw berkata dalam hati :
panjang umur nih orang. hehehe...

Sorry kalau ada yg tidak berkenan, bukan bermaksud memblow-up ataupun
menjilat.
I know lah bro, u gak mau di puji-puji. but it is truly come from my
memories.

Keep it up, bro JT. GBU.

Mudah-mudahan menjadi inspirasi bagi yang lain.

Salam,


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 betul prof... saya juga salut dg anda sekalipun sy blm pernah bertemu dg
anda...
 terkadang sy tdk bisa didepan laptop seharian, bbrp kali saya minta prof
utk posting chart..
 pdhal saat itu adl jam sibuk trading tp tetep beliau sempet buat
posting...
 Sy salut dg anda dan semoga Tuhan membalas dg berkat yg melimpah buat anda
dan keluarga..
 
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 Judul: Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)
 
 
 dari dua kursus yg saya ikuti dan bertatap muka langsung dengan JT... apa
yg saya rsakan adalah apa yg dikatakan JT... ada ketulusan saat dia
memberikan info dan bahkan me reply email... go prof... saya senang baca
postingan anda... berisi.. dan seringnya lu.. . (ntar kalau ikut
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Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
(+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).

Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?


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Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


Malah +10.6% closenya
Nyumbang kenaikan index 11poin
Ama tlkm udah 17pts
Sama aja idx cm naik6poin hr ini..
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Tanya, kenapa?  





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Re: [ob] CROSSING???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik lkm jkt
Bumi Resources Tbk BUMI 50.6 29-Jul-09 29-Jul-09 30-Jul-09 30-Jul-09
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 Thx I got it now,
 boleh tau bumi kapan dividennya?

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 Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:35 AM


 Ng adanya
 Jd f net buy cuma 300bil..yg 100bil di ng indy
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 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:18:10
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 Mohon petunjuk senior2, net buy asing segini gede ada crossing ga ya? Thx











 

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[ob] TAL

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin

Mbah, apakah BD naikin UNVR emg gara2 udah mulai ngeshort/distribusi saham2nya 
yg laen?
PTBA dinaekin biar gampang buat buang energy?

TAL yg lain
Proudly proclaiming: Welcome Dow
11.000, SP 500 1200! Based on the last 10 days global market
situation, saat ini cukup aman masuk lagi ke pasar modal  uang.
Ini yang disebut Speculative Bull Market Rally. Turun tangannya the
US Government in securing the financial market, at least menjadi
security guard system towards their current status. IHSG akan dikerek
bbrp jengkal yg cukup signifikan. Happy investing!dari FB nya Ratu Sima

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RE: [ob] PTBA 12750 vs UNTR 11600 (to : PROF JT)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Syukurlah, jangan kecepetan jual, ntar profit ngga maksimal, jangan juga
lupa pasang trailing stop, takutnya BD minta kembalian. hehe

 

Wkt itu dapet 25 rebu dari mana yah? Ane juga lupa, hehe, mesti liat lagi
catetannya.., ya pokonya pake perhitungan Volume Analysis lah.. 

 

UNTR saya belum liat in detail Pak.., nanti deh kalo lagi senggang ane coba
itungin., skrng mau ngupi2 dulu nih.., hehe

 

JT

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of D0N Qicot
Sent: 27 Juli 2009 16:13
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] PTBA 12750 vs UNTR 11600 (to : PROF JT)

 







Prof JT,

PTBA sudah matang pohon nich
ngak perlu di karbit.

btw, saya mau tanya donk...pada saat PTBA 11700 prof JT bilang volume harus
diatas 25ribu...
cara liat volume 25 ribu dimana prof..?

di yahoo : AVg Vol (3m) 7.000.000


Pertanyaan kedua :
UNTR dan PTBA memilik gerak dan pola yg sama.
Kemarin PTBA di tahan naik, hari ini bijinya melejit...
Hari ini giliran UNTR di tahan naik...besok apakah ikut melejit juga...?
Hari ini UNTR volume lebih rendah di banding kemarin...
butuh volume berapa agar bisa melejit seperti PTBA...?


Thanx Prof JT yg baik dan toeloes.

 









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[ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Firman Tandinata

Sore pak JT dan senior OB'ers, mohon terawangannya BKSL dan MNCN.
Kok IHSG udah naik tajam 2 saham ini ga naik2

Thanks...
Reards,

Firman

 

















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2009-07-27 Terurut Topik datasahamku

sptnya pelan2 berkembang biak jadi lobster nih?



[ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik ichingprediction
For record only: 2125-2050 = +75   0--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto...@... wrote:

 ICHING answer :
 
 Yang (Old)
 Yin (New)
 Yang (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
   The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a 
 prince who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that 
 account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received 
 at interviews.
   The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only 
 uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
 perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he may 
 be, there will be occasion for regret.
   The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) 
 is gaining ground.
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yang (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
   The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this state, 
 feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
 motion, with advantage.
   The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
 upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of 
 this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, initiative, 
 and action.
   The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
 lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
 
 -
 Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik





RE: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Bukan Cuma BKSL dan MNCN yg ngga naik (padahal index kenceng).., banyak saham2 
lainnya juga begitu, bbrp hari ini index naik karena saham-saham jagoan aja 
kayak tlkm dan unvr.., jadi ngga mencerminkan gerakan secara keseluruhan…, 
memang ini bikin bête and frustasi, tapi ya mau bilang apa, hehe..

 

BD kedua saham tsb keliatan lagi ngga begitu aktif, paling Cuma lagi nge’jagain 
doang…, sabar aja lah Pak, mungkin tunggu momen atau “cerita” bagus, baru 
digerakin lagi…, J

 

JT   

 

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Behalf Of Firman Tandinata
Sent: 27 Juli 2009 16:25
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Subject: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN

 








Sore pak JT dan senior OB'ers, mohon terawangannya BKSL dan MNCN.
Kok IHSG udah naik tajam 2 saham ini ga naik2

Thanks...
Reards,

Firman

 

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Re: [ob] TAL

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=abcptlNiu65g
Surging Profit Estimates Signal 26% Rally for SP 500 (Update1) 
Share | Email | Print | A A A
By Lynn Thomasson and Michael Tsang
Analysts boosted their 2010 estimates for Freeport by 11 percent to $4.11 a 
share after the operator of the world’s largest gold mine surpassed 
second-quarter earnings projections by 90 percent last week, on faster bullion 
sales and copper production costs that fell 35 percent.The 
per-share estimate has increased 138 percent since falling to a low of $1.73 in 
January. Freeport, which has risen 145 percent this year, trades at 14.55 times 
next year’s profit forecast based on last week’s closing share price of $59.82. 
That’s 40 percent less than its 2009 valuation of 24.31 times, data compiled by 
Bloomberg show.Estimates for Goldman Sachs’s 2010 profit have risen to $16.19 a 
share, almost triple the low of $5.90 in March. The New York-based bank trades 
at 10.17 times next year’s projection. That’s a 63 percent discount to its 
multiple of 27.73 using earnings from the past 12 months, even after the stock 
rose 95 percent this year.Asian
 DemandIntel Corp., the world’s largest maker of semiconductors, reported a 
second-quarter profit on July 14 that was double what analysts projected as 
personal computer demand improves in Asia. The Santa Clara, California-based 
company also made a third- quarter sales forecast that topped consensus 
estimates.That caused analysts to raise their 2010 earnings estimates for Intel 
to $1.08 a share, a 21 percent increase. Its shares reached a 10-month high 
last week and have surged 32 percent this year. Intel trades at 17.93 times 
next year’s profit, 36 percent less than the decade average of 28.13.“There are 
a lot of situations where folks have just dialed expectations to the floor, and 
that’s just wrong,” said Brian Barish, president of Denver-based Cambiar 
Investors, which manages $4.5 billion and boosted its stake in Intel earlier 
this year. “The fundamentals, on balance, are moving in your favor, and there 
are still a lot of people out
 there that don’t believe that. There’s still some money to be made.”





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Subject: [ob] TAL
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 9:26 AM














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Mbah, apakah BD naikin UNVR emg gara2 udah mulai ngeshort/distribusi saham2nya 
yg laen?
PTBA dinaekin biar gampang buat buang energy?

TAL yg lain
Proudly proclaiming: Welcome Dow
11.000, SP 500 1200! Based on the last 10 days global market
situation, saat ini cukup aman masuk lagi ke pasar modal  uang.
Ini yang disebut Speculative Bull Market Rally. Turun tangannya the
US Government in securing the financial market, at least menjadi
security guard system towards their current status. IHSG akan dikerek
bbrp jengkal yg cukup signifikan. Happy investing!dari FB nya Ratu Sima

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RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Bayu Kusuma
ga jd masuk BLTA ahmau cari batu baranya dl buat bahan bakarnyahehehehehe dah colek dikit si prof pas closing td.hajar kanan--- On Mon, 7/27/09, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.comSubject: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, July 27, 2009, 4:43 AM







  







Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau
tambo ciek monggo, resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel
besok-besok…, kalo nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini
bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin…, ngga terima complain ya.. he 

  

Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully
!! TA is not 100% fool Proof. 

  

JT 

  

 

  





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To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen??? 





  



ini diem lagi hehe.. 



banyak yg buang kiri malah 



  






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Wow... ada apa ni??? 





tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi
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Re: [ob] ada yg tahu FA BMTR-MNCN?

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik riil_investor
Berita gini mah ngga usah terlalu ditanggapi! Logika berfikir sederhana saja, 
apa mungki pemerintah membiarkan induatri pertelevisian kita terjadi semacam 
kartel?

Rasanya sih enggak lah!

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:27:18 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] ada yg tahu FA BMTR-MNCN?


Khan kabarnya MNCN mau akuisisi 10 TV lokal ya?

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From: Kabu Nusi megasho...@yahoo.com

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:22:16 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] ada yg tahu FA BMTR-MNCN?



BMTR kemaren sempat dikaitkan dgn obligasi FREN (yg default). BMTR ekuitas 
7-8T, MNCN 4-5T, BV MNCN 3x0 vs BMTR 5x0. FA 2009, perlu lihat kinerja H1, Q2 
vs Q1.


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From: anrusing data anru.s...@gmail.com
Subject: [ob] ada yg tahu FA BMTR-MNCN?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 3:13 AM
















 












Apa utk FA benar seharusnya BMTR dibawah MNCN harga sahamnya?
thanks infonya


















 





  


Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Sy mending merah ihsg tapi porto ijo drpd ngliat ginian trs mainnya..
Mgknkah tanda mau koreksi ga pake medc lg tp pake unvr?
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From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:35:45 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


  
 
 
 
UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
 +18 ke IHSG.
 
 Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
 yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
 sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
 UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
 murah.
 
 Pertanyaannya:
 Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?
 
 Jawaban:
 A. Supaya bisa jualan
 B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
 C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan
 
 Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
 harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
 masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
 ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.
 
 Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?
 
 Regards,
 DE
 
 2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo. mailto:oenjacob%40yahoo.com com:
  Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
  (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).
 
  Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?
 
  





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Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Kidod25
Ingat pak sekarang tahun kebo tanah he he 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... 
wrote:

 UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
 +18 ke IHSG.
 
 Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
 yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
 sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
 UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
 murah.
 
 Pertanyaannya:
 Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?
 
 Jawaban:
 A. Supaya bisa jualan
 B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
 C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan
 
 Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
 harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
 masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
 ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.
 
 Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?
 
 Regards,
 DE
 
 2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@...:
  Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
  (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).
 
  Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?
 





Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik paramanandana

Pak DE, kalo ujian multiple choices, bingung nih milih jawabannya, 
soalnya.pilihan A, B, C BETOEL SEMUA...!

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From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
+18 ke IHSG.

Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
murah.

Pertanyaannya:
Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?

Jawaban:
A. Supaya bisa jualan
B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan

Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.

Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?

Regards,
DE

2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com:
 Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
 (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).

 Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?




Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik lkm jkt
kalau kebo tanah . memangnya kenapa (analisanya) ?



2009/7/27 Kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com

 Ingat pak sekarang tahun kebo tanah he he

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@...
 wrote:
 
  UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
  +18 ke IHSG.
 
  Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
  yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
  sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
  UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
  murah.
 
  Pertanyaannya:
  Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?
 
  Jawaban:
  A. Supaya bisa jualan
  B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
  C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan
 
  Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
  harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
  masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
  ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.
 
  Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?
 
  Regards,
  DE
 
  2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@...:
   Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8
 Bio (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).
  
   Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?
  
 




 

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Re: [ob] CPO

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Muttaqien yk
jadi apa yang dibelu pak ? UNSP kah ?

Pada 27 Juli 2009 17:04, andiyanto dharmawan 
andiyanto_dharma...@yahoo.co.id menulis:



 *El Nino Kembali, Saham Perkebunan Akan Outperform - Goldman Sachs
 *  ** Australian Bureau of Meteorology dan US NOAA mengumumkan El Nino
 akan
 kembali datang di akhir tahun 2009.
 El Nino merupakan fenomena hangat yang memberikan tendensi negatif untuk
 produksi
 perkebunan namun bagus untuk harga yang akan mengalami kenaikan sehingga
 memberikan
 sentimen positif atas perusahaan perkebunan.

 * Namun, walaupun tanpa adanya El Nino , Fundamental harga CPO akan tetap
 Bullish, terkait:
 - melambatnya pertumbuhan produksi CPO ( dari stress yield dan insentif
 replanting atau penanaman kembali
 di Malaysia)
 - persedian kedelai yang kuat
 - naiknya harga minyak
 - perintah pemerintah untuk penggunaan bio-diesel meningkat
 - permintaan minyak sayur (edible oil) global tidaklah mudah
 (goldman*/fz)


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Re: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik stock . breeder
COOL!!!.. 

Tomorrow prediction please =)..


-Original Message-
From: ichingprediction wimanto...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09


For record only: 2125-2050 = +75   0--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto...@... wrote:

 ICHING answer :
 
 Yang (Old)
 Yin (New)
 Yang (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
   The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a 
 prince who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that 
 account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received 
 at interviews.
   The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only 
 uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
 perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he may 
 be, there will be occasion for regret.
   The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) 
 is gaining ground.
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yang (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
 Yin (New)
   The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this state, 
 feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
 motion, with advantage.
   The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
 upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part of 
 this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, initiative, 
 and action.
   The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
 lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
 
 -
 Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik






Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen??? DEWA MASIH TENANG @X

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik edward
DEWA Masih tenang 2x bumi mendadak naik ??

kan biasanya berkorelasi antara BUMI Dgn DEWA 
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  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Mumpung masih gretong-an neh.. 
  Makasie pak Wim.. :)

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   Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:44 PM
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
   
   
   
   
   
   Ane Baru cek intraday nih., hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
   resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok., kalo
   nyangkut temennya banyak kok.. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin.,
   ngga terima complain ya.. he
   
   
   
   Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
   100% fool Proof.
   
   
   
   JT
   
   
   
   bumi.png
   
   
   
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   ini diem lagi hehe..
   
   banyak yg buang kiri malah
   
   
   
   
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RE: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Firman Tandinata
Ok Pak JT. tx atas jawabannya...
Semoga pahala bapak besar di surga karena banyak membantu orang

Regards,

Firman




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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009, 4:48 PM






 





  







Bukan Cuma BKSL dan MNCN yg ngga naik (padahal index kenceng)..,
banyak saham2 lainnya juga begitu, bbrp hari ini index naik karena saham-saham
jagoan aja kayak tlkm dan unvr.., jadi ngga mencerminkan gerakan secara
keseluruhan…, memang ini bikin bête and frustasi, tapi ya mau bilang apa, 
hehe.. 

   

BD kedua saham tsb keliatan lagi ngga begitu aktif, paling Cuma lagi
nge’jagain doang…, sabar aja lah Pak, mungkin tunggu momen atau “cerita” bagus,
baru digerakin lagi…, J 

   

JT    

   





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Sent: 27 Juli 2009 16:25

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan
MNCN 





   







 


 
  
  

  Sore pak JT dan senior OB'ers, mohon terawangannya BKSL dan MNCN.

  Kok IHSG udah naik tajam 2 saham ini ga naik2

  

  Thanks...

  Reards,

  

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[ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
BUMI mulai besok ?.

Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, stock.bree...@... wrote:

 COOL!!!.. 
 
 Tomorrow prediction please =)..
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ichingprediction wimanto...@...
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
 For record only: 2125-2050 = +75   0--- In 
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ wrote:
 
  ICHING answer :
  
  Yang (Old)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a 
  prince who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that 
  account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is 
  received at interviews.
  The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only 
  uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
  perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he 
  may be, there will be occasion for regret.
  The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) 
  is gaining ground.
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this state, 
  feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
  motion, with advantage.
  The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
  upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part 
  of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
  initiative, and action.
  The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
  lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
  
  -
  Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
 





[ob] DOW masih akan bullish---10.000

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik swan silo
Art Cashin: Dow 10,000 Possible Near-Term
Published: Friday, 24 Jul 2009 | 3:41 PM ET 
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By: CNBC.com
The Dow broke 9,000 yesterday (Thursday) — and has hovered at that level 
Friday. What's next for stock markets?
Art Cashin, director of floor operations at UBS Financial Services, offered 
CNBC his insights.
Cashin touched on the reversal of the bearish head-and-shoulders* pattern — a 
reversal that surprised some technical analysts.
The failure of the widely-accepted pattern turned into a whopping rally, he 
said.
He also cited a CNBC interview with star analyst Meredith Whitney, in which she 
praised Goldman Sachs, as a rally factor.
Second opinions: 
* SP Headed Straight for 1,250: Strategist
* Pros Say: A 'Good Time' to Buy Equities
* Latecomers Will Drive Rally: Citi's Levkovich
He
noted extending the market's check point from July 17 to today; and
over this last week, we've had pretty much nothing but rallies.
The problem is, we're overbought now and we'll probably have a pullback — next 
week, I think.
But until that contraction happens, how high can stocks go?
[Dow] 10,000 is not out of the realm of possibility. A little above 1,000 for 
the SP.
The rally is going to continue. But, he added, A month or so from now, you 
might see a sudden reversal.


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[ob] Warren Buffett to CNBC: Invest in Stocks Even At Dow 9000

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik swan silo
Warren Buffett to CNBC: Invest in Stocks Even At Dow 9000
Published: Friday, 24 Jul 2009 | 8:36 AM ET 
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By: Alex Crippen
Executive Producer
 
Warren
Buffett tells CNBC the economy still isn't showing any signs of life
but that doesn't mean investors should stay away from stocks for the
long-term.
In a
live interview on Squawk Box this morning, Buffett says business is
still flat.  But he stresses that doesn't mean he's negative on
stocks, predicting the market will revive before the economy does.
COMPLETE CNBC INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT
The market is very, very likely to turn up before business. But I don't try 
and time stocks. I try to price stocks.
He repeats his advice from his Buy American op-ed in The New York Times last 
fall: don't wait to buy stocks until the
economy improves.  By then, he says, you will have missed the biggest
stock gains.
Even with the Dow hitting highs for the year around 9000,
Buffett repeats his belief that stocks will outperform cash
investments, such as Treasury notes, over the long-term.  I would much
rather own equities at 9000 on the Dow than have a long investment in
government bonds or a continuously rolling investment in short-term
money. 
As usual, he points out he is not making any predictions about what the stock 
market will do in the next coming weeks or months. 
Buffett
repeats his belief there are real inflationary possibilities down the
road, due to the massive stimulus being applied to the struggling
economy.  But he also repeats his view the stimulus is necessary
despite the after-effects, because helping the economy recover should
be the nation's top priority.
Buffett
again endorses Ben Bernanke as Federal Reserve chairman, saying I
don't think you could have anybody better than Bernanke in the job.  He
understands all the issues.
Buffett's
bearish comments today on the economy echo what he's been saying in
recent weeks.  Earlier this month, Buffett told us consumer sales
remained very, very soft and about a month ago he said in a live interview on 
CNBC that he was seeing no green shoots on the economy.
RELATED LINKS

Current DateTime: 04:20:43 27 Jul 2009
LinksList Documentid: 32124861
* Dow 9000: What Does it Mean, and Can It Last?
Buffett declines to comment on Berkshire Hathaway's recent move to sell about 
17 percent of its stake in the credit-rating agency Moody's [MCO  25.930.41 
 (+1.61%)   ].
Buffett's live interview was designed to promote a new online animated series 
called Secret Millionaire's Club in which he voices a cartoon version of 
himself who helps teach kids about finance and investing.
Current Berkshire stock prices:
Class A: [US;BRK.A  95300.0  ---  UNCH  (0)   ]
Class B: [US;BRK.B  3127.36  ---  UNCH  (0)   ]
For more Buffett Watch updates follow alexcrippen on Twitter.Email comments to 
buffettwa...@cnbc.com


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Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen??? DEWA MASIH TENANG @X

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
Kan DEWA anaknya BUMI 

Jadi setau saya si logikanya kalo DEWA naik BUMI naik... tapi kalo BUMI naik 
DEWA BELUM TENTU naik...

betul ga?



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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009 16:39:04
Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen??? DEWA MASIH TENANG @X

  
DEWA Masih tenang 2x bumi mendadak naik ??
 
kan biasanya berkorelasi antara BUMI Dgn DEWA 
- Original Message - 
From: cipto_jh 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

  
Mumpung masih gretong-an neh.. 
Makasie pak Wim.. :)

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 Si Icing memang moii dah..
 
 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
 com]
 On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:44 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
 
 
 
 
 
 Ane Baru cek intraday nih., hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo,
 resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok. , kalo
 nyangkut temennya banyak kok.. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin.,
 ngga terima complain ya.. he
 
 
 
 Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not
 100% fool Proof.
 
 
 
 JT
 
 
 
 bumi.png
 
 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
 com]
 On Behalf Of Tommy Yu
 Sent: 27 Juli 2009 15:17
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
 
 
 
 
 
 ini diem lagi hehe..
 
 banyak yg buang kiri malah.
 
 
 
 
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Bls: [ob] CPO

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik andiyanto dharmawan
AALI LSIP TBLA GZCO UNSP 





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Terkirim: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009 18:07:46
Judul: Re: [ob] CPO

  
jadi apa yang dibelu pak ? UNSP kah ?


Pada 27 Juli 2009 17:04, andiyanto dharmawan andiyanto_dharmawan @yahoo.co. 
id menulis:

  
El Nino Kembali, Saham Perkebunan Akan Outperform - Goldman Sachs

* Australian Bureau of Meteorology dan US NOAA mengumumkan El Nino akan 
kembali datang di akhir tahun 2009. 
El Nino merupakan fenomena hangat yang memberikan tendensi negatif untuk 
produksi 
perkebunan namun bagus untuk harga yang akan mengalami kenaikan sehingga 
memberikan 
sentimen positif atas perusahaan perkebunan. 

* Namun, walaupun tanpa adanya El Nino , Fundamental harga CPO akan tetap 
Bullish, terkait: 
- melambatnya pertumbuhan produksi CPO ( dari stress yield dan insentif 
replanting atau penanaman kembali 
di Malaysia) 
- persedian kedelai yang kuat 
- naiknya harga minyak 
- perintah pemerintah untuk penggunaan bio-diesel meningkat 
- permintaan minyak sayur (edible oil) global tidaklah mudah 
(goldman/fz) 

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Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Supaya bisa jualan?? Hmm, too easy to guess, gampang kebaca.., kalo ane tebak 
sih supaya gampang ngejorokinnya.., dgn diangkat dulu pake unvr and tlkm, maka 
kalo dijorokin efect jatuhnya akan dasyat, dan diharapkan akan men-trigger sell 
off di saham2 lain yg kaga ikut2an naik.., nah loh !!. Hehe

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From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
+18 ke IHSG.

Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
murah.

Pertanyaannya:
Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?

Jawaban:
A. Supaya bisa jualan
B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan

Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.

Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?

Regards,
DE

2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com:
 Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
 (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).

 Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?





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Re: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Amin, amin.., that's all I want.

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From: Firman Tandinata firman_...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:19:04 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN


Ok Pak JT. tx atas jawabannya...
Semoga pahala bapak besar di surga karena banyak membantu orang

Regards,

Firman




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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009, 4:48 PM






 





  







Bukan Cuma BKSL dan MNCN yg ngga naik (padahal index kenceng)..,
banyak saham2 lainnya juga begitu, bbrp hari ini index naik karena saham-saham
jagoan aja kayak tlkm dan unvr.., jadi ngga mencerminkan gerakan secara
keseluruhan…, memang ini bikin bête and frustasi, tapi ya mau bilang apa, 
hehe.. 

   

BD kedua saham tsb keliatan lagi ngga begitu aktif, paling Cuma lagi
nge’jagain doang…, sabar aja lah Pak, mungkin tunggu momen atau “cerita” bagus,
baru digerakin lagi…, J 

   

JT    

   





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Sent: 27 Juli 2009 16:25

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan
MNCN 





   







 


 
  
  

  Sore pak JT dan senior OB'ers, mohon terawangannya BKSL dan MNCN.

  Kok IHSG udah naik tajam 2 saham ini ga naik2

  

  Thanks...

  Reards,

  

  Firman 
  
 


   







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2009-07-27 Terurut Topik swan silo
Keliatannya bertolak belakang dg Elaine

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proclaiming: Welcome Dow 11.000, SP 500 1200! Based on the last 10
days global market situation, saat ini cukup aman masuk lagi ke pasar
modal  uang. Ini yang disebut Speculative Bull Market Rally.
Turun tangannya the US Government in securing the financial market, at
least menjadi security guard system towards their current status. IHSG
akan dikerek bbrp jengkal yg cukup signifikan. Happy investing!


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Bls: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
bisa jadi...
dengan 2 saham itu dinaikin.. ihsg naik tinggi tapi saham lain cuma di situ2 
doank...
yg pada megang frustasi deh... sell tu saham beli tlkm ama unvr...

pas BD udah rasa cukup digutyurlah 2 saham itu... ihsg jatoh dalem... 
saham lainnya? ikutan drop gara2 pada cut loss... abis liat ihsg merah tebel... 
BD siap ember.. ditampungin dah semua yg buang
jadi ihsg naik cut loss ihsg turun juga cut loss.. sadis lah...:( 

Sori kalo salah.. coba2 analisa... hihihi



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Terkirim: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009 18:24:43
Judul: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

Supaya bisa jualan?? Hmm, too easy to guess, gampang kebaca.., kalo ane tebak 
sih supaya gampang ngejorokinnya..., dgn diangkat dulu pake unvr and tlkm, maka 
kalo dijorokin efect jatuhnya akan dasyat, dan diharapkan akan men-trigger sell 
off di saham2 lain yg kaga ikut2an naik.., nah loh !!. Hehe

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From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
+18 ke IHSG.

Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
murah.

Pertanyaannya:
Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?

Jawaban:
A. Supaya bisa jualan
B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
C.. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan

Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.

Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?

Regards,
DE

2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com:
 Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
 (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).

 Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?





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Re: [ob] statusnya ratu sima di FB

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
Elaine vs aimee?
Hmm..
Klo naikin pake unvr sih boong..
Maunya pake saham energi
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Government in securing the financial market, at least menjadi security guard 
system towards their current status. IHSG akan dikerek bbrp jengkal yg cukup 
signifikan. Happy investing!
 

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Bls: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Ksatria Timur Laut
Top Banget Pak Wim ...

Mau tanya pak Wim ... utk bertanya ke I Ching .. Pak Wim menggunakan Uang Logam 
atau Software ?

trims pak Wim 





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Judul: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

  
Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
BUMI mulai besok ?.

Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, stock.breeder@ ... wrote:

 COOL!!!.. 
 
 Tomorrow prediction please =)..
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ ...
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
 For record only: 2125-2050 = +75 0--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
 ichingprediction wimanto_tr@  wrote:
 
  ICHING answer :
  
  Yang (Old)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince 
  who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that account 
  with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received at 
  interviews.
  The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only uses 
  them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
  perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he 
  may be, there will be occasion for regret.
  The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is 
  gaining ground.
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm) : In this state, 
  feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
  motion, with advantage.
  The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
  upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part 
  of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
  initiative, and action.
  The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
  lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
  
  -
  Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
 






  
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Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik agung aja
Pak JT, Billy, Pak Tasrul, dan TA-ers lain, ditantang Mbah tuh, cuma analisa 
BUMI 20 hari, masa ngga berani
komporin dikit ah hehehe


regards





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:16:16 PM
Subject: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

  
Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
BUMI mulai besok ?.

Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, stock.breeder@ ... wrote:

 COOL!!!.. 
 
 Tomorrow prediction please =)..
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ ...
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
 For record only: 2125-2050 = +75 0--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
 ichingprediction wimanto_tr@  wrote:
 
  ICHING answer :
  
  Yang (Old)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince 
  who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that account 
  with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received at 
  interviews.
  The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only uses 
  them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
  perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he 
  may be, there will be occasion for regret.
  The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is 
  gaining ground.
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm) : In this state, 
  feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
  motion, with advantage.
  The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
  upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part 
  of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
  initiative, and action.
  The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
  lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
  
  -
  Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
 






  

Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik fifi young
Berarti *BAHAYA* mengancam ya...?
Siaga berapa...? Just be alert...!
Thanks for the warning.


2009/7/27 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

 Supaya bisa jualan?? Hmm, too easy to guess, gampang kebaca.., kalo ane
 tebak sih supaya gampang ngejorokinnya.., dgn diangkat dulu pake unvr and
 tlkm, maka kalo dijorokin efect jatuhnya akan dasyat, dan diharapkan akan
 men-trigger sell off di saham2 lain yg kaga ikut2an naik.., nah loh !!.
 Hehe

 Powered by TLKM BullBerry®

 “The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The
 Law of Supply and Demand”

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


 UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
 +18 ke IHSG.

 Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
 yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
 sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
 UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
 murah.

 Pertanyaannya:
 Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?

 Jawaban:
 A. Supaya bisa jualan
 B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
 C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan

 Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
 harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
 masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
 ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.

 Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?

 Regards,
 DE

 2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com:
  Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8
 Bio (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).
 
  Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?
 


 

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Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Siaga Ember. Hehe

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of Supply and Demand”

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From: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:48:33 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


Berarti *BAHAYA* mengancam ya...?
Siaga berapa...? Just be alert...!
Thanks for the warning.


2009/7/27 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

 Supaya bisa jualan?? Hmm, too easy to guess, gampang kebaca.., kalo ane
 tebak sih supaya gampang ngejorokinnya.., dgn diangkat dulu pake unvr and
 tlkm, maka kalo dijorokin efect jatuhnya akan dasyat, dan diharapkan akan
 men-trigger sell off di saham2 lain yg kaga ikut2an naik.., nah loh !!.
 Hehe

 Powered by TLKM BullBerry®

 “The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The
 Law of Supply and Demand”

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


 UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
 +18 ke IHSG.

 Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
 yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
 sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
 UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
 murah.

 Pertanyaannya:
 Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?

 Jawaban:
 A. Supaya bisa jualan
 B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
 C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan

 Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
 harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
 masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
 ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.

 Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?

 Regards,
 DE

 2009/7/27 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com:
  Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8
 Bio (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).
 
  Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?
 


 

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Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik fifi young
Mbah, setuju test i-ching 20 hari,
tapi 2 saham dong... BUMI  INCO...
biar lebih attractive, please.
Thanks.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:16 PM, jsx_consultant 
jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote:



 Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
 BUMI mulai besok ?.

 Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

 Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 stock.bree...@... wrote:
 
  COOL!!!..
 
  Tomorrow prediction please =)..
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ichingprediction wimanto...@...
 
  Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
  For record only: 2125-2050 = +75 0--- In 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ wrote:
  
   ICHING answer :
  
   Yang (Old)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a
 prince who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that
 account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is
 received at interviews.
   The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only
 uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is
 perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he
 may be, there will be occasion for regret.
   The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force)
 is gaining ground.
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this state,
 feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in
 motion, with advantage.
   The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the
 upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part
 of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement,
 initiative, and action.
   The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the
 lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
  
   -
   Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
  
 

  



Re: [ob] statusnya ratu sima di FB

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik brainfuchs
Inga inga, kalau RS bacanya harus dibalik!

--bf


2009/7/27 swan silo swan_gro...@yahoo.com



 Keliatannya bertolak belakang dg Elaine
 Ratu Sima Proudly proclaiming: Welcome Dow 11.000, SP 500 1200! Based on
 the last 10 days global market situation, saat ini cukup aman masuk lagi ke
 pasar modal  uang. Ini yang disebut Speculative Bull Market Rally. Turun
 tangannya the US Government in securing the financial market, at least
 menjadi security guard system towards their current status. IHSG akan
 dikerek bbrp jengkal yg cukup signifikan. Happy investing!

 --
  Apakah demonstrasi turun ke jalan itu hal yang wajar?
 http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArVePPHO1ZycmPLF76FARzLJRAx.;_ylv=3?qid=20080413223411AAeeuR2
 Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
 



[ob] Re: I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik boyz
Kenapa 20 hari...  Koq nggak 10 hari aja, mBah?

Salam,


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
jsx-consult...@... wrote:

 Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
 BUMI mulai besok ?.

 Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

 Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.





Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik riil_investor
Wah menarik tuh mbah! Bener cukup satu saham saja dulu, sebagai test case!

Lanjut!

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From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:16:16 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09


Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
BUMI mulai besok ?.

Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, stock.bree...@... wrote:

 COOL!!!.. 
 
 Tomorrow prediction please =)..
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ichingprediction wimanto...@...
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
 For record only: 2125-2050 = +75   0--- In 
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ wrote:
 
  ICHING answer :
  
  Yang (Old)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a 
  prince who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that 
  account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is 
  received at interviews.
  The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only 
  uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
  perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he 
  may be, there will be occasion for regret.
  The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) 
  is gaining ground.
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this state, 
  feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
  motion, with advantage.
  The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
  upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part 
  of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
  initiative, and action.
  The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
  lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
  
  -
  Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
 






Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik boyz


Koq pada cerita serem-serem sich...
ane penakut nich,...



#^%(*%$^



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT™ jsxtra...@...
wrote:

 Supaya bisa jualan?? Hmm, too easy to guess, gampang kebaca.., kalo
ane tebak sih supaya gampang ngejorokinnya.., dgn diangkat dulu pake
unvr and tlkm, maka kalo dijorokin efect jatuhnya akan dasyat, dan
diharapkan akan men-trigger sell off di saham2 lain yg kaga ikut2an
naik.., nah loh !!. Hehe

 Powered by TLKM BullBerry®

 The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock
market is The Law of Supply and Demand

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@...

 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


 UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
 +18 ke IHSG.

 Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
 yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
 sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
 UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
 murah.

 Pertanyaannya:
 Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?

 Jawaban:
 A. Supaya bisa jualan
 B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
 C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan

 Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
 harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
 masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
 ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.

 Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?

 Regards,
 DE





Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT™
Si Mbah emang paling demen 'ngejorokin' orang.., hehe.., kite tantang balik 
aja, sanggup gak Ilmu Bandarmologi yg tersohor itu ngelawan I Ching ? 
Hehehe... 

wus ngibriittt.
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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: agung aja agung.ke...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:46:18 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09


Pak JT, Billy, Pak Tasrul, dan TA-ers lain, ditantang Mbah tuh, cuma analisa 
BUMI 20 hari, masa ngga berani
komporin dikit ah hehehe


regards





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:16:16 PM
Subject: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

  
Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
BUMI mulai besok ?.

Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, stock.breeder@ ... wrote:

 COOL!!!.. 
 
 Tomorrow prediction please =)..
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ ...
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
 For record only: 2125-2050 = +75 0--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
 ichingprediction wimanto_tr@  wrote:
 
  ICHING answer :
  
  Yang (Old)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince 
  who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that account 
  with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received at 
  interviews.
  The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only uses 
  them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
  perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he 
  may be, there will be occasion for regret.
  The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is 
  gaining ground.
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yang (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  Yin (New)
  The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm) : In this state, 
  feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
  motion, with advantage.
  The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
  upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part 
  of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
  initiative, and action.
  The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
  lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
  
  -
  Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
 






  


[ob] Re: I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Sahamnya cuman 1, jadi jumlah sample data kekecilan...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m457...@... wrote:

 Kenapa 20 hari...  Koq nggak 10 hari aja, mBah?
 
 Salam,
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
 jsx-consultant@ wrote:
 
  Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
  BUMI mulai besok ?.
 
  Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...
 
  Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.
 





Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik boyz

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT™ jsxtra...@...
wrote:

 Si Mbah emang paling demen 'ngejorokin' orang.., hehe.., kite tantang
balik aja, sanggup gak Ilmu Bandarmologi yg tersohor itu ngelawan I
Ching ? Hehehe...

 wus ngibriittt.



Wakakak kuala loe brooo... hahaha
Jewer aja, mBah jewe ...

:p




Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT™ jsxtra...@... wrote:

 Si Mbah emang paling demen 'ngejorokin' orang.., hehe.., kite tantang balik 
 aja, sanggup gak Ilmu Bandarmologi yg tersohor itu ngelawan I Ching ? 
 Hehehe... 
 

Embah sih PERCAYA bahwa orang tidak mungkin membuat prediksi
SETIAP HARI pada saham yg SAMA, kalo betul itu cuman KEBETULAN doang...

Dan begitu juga dengan TA, prediksi TA setiap hari pada saham yg
sama itu cuman kebetulan.

Lalu buat apa belajar TA ?.

Prediksi TA itu bukan buat dipaksakan saban hari, kita harus 
sabar menunggu, bisa saja berhari hari atau berminggu minggu 
sampai kita mendapat signal yg MEYAKINKAN pada saham yg dijadikan
object.

Embah memperhatikan I Ching lagi dipraktekan pada saham BUMI
SABAN HARI, INI AJAIB ???


 wus ngibriittt.
 Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
 
 The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The 
 Law of Supply and Demand
 
 -Original Message-
 From: agung aja agung.ke...@...
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:46:18 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
 Pak JT, Billy, Pak Tasrul, dan TA-ers lain, ditantang Mbah tuh, cuma analisa 
 BUMI 20 hari, masa ngga berani
 komporin dikit ah hehehe
 
 
 regards
 
 
 
 
 
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:16:16 PM
 Subject: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
   
 Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
 BUMI mulai besok ?.
 
 Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...
 
 Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, stock.breeder@ ... wrote:
 
  COOL!!!.. 
  
  Tomorrow prediction please =)..
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ ...
  
  Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
  
  
  For record only: 2125-2050 = +75 0--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
  ichingprediction wimanto_tr@  wrote:
  
   ICHING answer :
   
   Yang (Old)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince 
   who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that 
   account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is 
   received at interviews.
   The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only 
   uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position 
   is perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct 
   he may be, there will be occasion for regret.
   The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is 
   gaining ground.
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm) : In this state, 
   feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
   motion, with advantage.
   The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
   upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As 
   part of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
   initiative, and action.
   The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
   lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
   
   -
   Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
  
 





Re: [ob] Warren Buffett to CNBC: Invest in Stocks Even At Dow 9000

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik abe
Bener-2 nih simpang jalannya, bukan sekedar trik2nya BD
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From: swan silo swan_gro...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:25:15 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com; 
sa...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Warren Buffett to CNBC: Invest in Stocks Even At Dow 9000


Warren Buffett to CNBC: Invest in Stocks Even At Dow 9000
Published: Friday, 24 Jul 2009 | 8:36 AM ET 
Text Size 
By: Alex Crippen
Executive Producer
 
Warren
Buffett tells CNBC the economy still isn't showing any signs of life
but that doesn't mean investors should stay away from stocks for the
long-term.
In a
live interview on Squawk Box this morning, Buffett says business is
still flat.  But he stresses that doesn't mean he's negative on
stocks, predicting the market will revive before the economy does.
COMPLETE CNBC INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT
The market is very, very likely to turn up before business. But I don't try 
and time stocks. I try to price stocks.
He repeats his advice from his Buy American op-ed in The New York Times last 
fall: don't wait to buy stocks until the
economy improves.  By then, he says, you will have missed the biggest
stock gains.
Even with the Dow hitting highs for the year around 9000,
Buffett repeats his belief that stocks will outperform cash
investments, such as Treasury notes, over the long-term.  I would much
rather own equities at 9000 on the Dow than have a long investment in
government bonds or a continuously rolling investment in short-term
money. 
As usual, he points out he is not making any predictions about what the stock 
market will do in the next coming weeks or months. 
Buffett
repeats his belief there are real inflationary possibilities down the
road, due to the massive stimulus being applied to the struggling
economy.  But he also repeats his view the stimulus is necessary
despite the after-effects, because helping the economy recover should
be the nation's top priority.
Buffett
again endorses Ben Bernanke as Federal Reserve chairman, saying I
don't think you could have anybody better than Bernanke in the job.  He
understands all the issues.
Buffett's
bearish comments today on the economy echo what he's been saying in
recent weeks.  Earlier this month, Buffett told us consumer sales
remained very, very soft and about a month ago he said in a live interview on 
CNBC that he was seeing no green shoots on the economy.
RELATED LINKS

Current DateTime: 04:20:43 27 Jul 2009
LinksList Documentid: 32124861
* Dow 9000: What Does it Mean, and Can It Last?
Buffett declines to comment on Berkshire Hathaway's recent move to sell about 
17 percent of its stake in the credit-rating agency Moody's [MCO  25.930.41 
 (+1.61%)   ].
Buffett's live interview was designed to promote a new online animated series 
called Secret Millionaire's Club in which he voices a cartoon version of 
himself who helps teach kids about finance and investing.
Current Berkshire stock prices:
Class A: [US;BRK.A  95300.0  ---  UNCH  (0)   ]
Class B: [US;BRK.B  3127.36  ---  UNCH  (0)   ]
For more Buffett Watch updates follow alexcrippen on Twitter.Email comments to 
buffettwa...@cnbc.com


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Bls: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cinta Saham cinta_sa...@...
wrote:


 daripada bengong, kan ?

 Pak Boyz : . lain, belum pernah terkesan sombong atau arogan,
apalagi ngeles.
 Kadang2 pernah sih, but we knew that he was kidding. 

 bukan ngeles kali, Pak, ngeres ngkali. hahahaha beneran kidding
nih Prof JT,
 sambil nungguin market gerak nih ..., menurut saya, Prof JT is one
of the best person here, salut !!!

 -cs-



Wah benerr bangett loe bro  eh, bro atau sis, ya? ...
:P






RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Bozz Trader
Bumi gitu lho !!!

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Charles Atmaja
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:39 PM
To: obrolan bandar
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

 

  

Wow... ada apa ni???

tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan...

 

  _  

Nama
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otions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/  baru untuk Anda! 
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan
@rocketmail. 
Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!





[ob] Re: I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik ichingprediction
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... 
wrote:

 Sahamnya cuman 1, jadi jumlah sample data kekecilan...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote:
 
  Kenapa 20 hari...  Koq nggak 10 hari aja, mBah?
  
  Salam,
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
  jsx-consultant@ wrote:
  
   Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
   BUMI mulai besok ?.
  
   Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...
  
   Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.
  
 

mbah ane prediksi bumi tiap hari emang krn ane ada kepentingan disitu. Masalah 
prediksinya akurat ato nga tiap hari itu impossible emang bisa diperdebatkan. 
Wong dikalangan pemakai ichingpun banyak pro kontra menggunakan iching sbg alat 
ngeramal. Sorry nulis dari bawah lagi-susah scroll ke atas pake 6275



[ob] Re: I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto...@... 
wrote:


 
 mbah ane prediksi bumi tiap hari emang krn ane ada kepentingan disitu. 
 Masalah prediksinya akurat ato nga tiap hari itu impossible emang bisa 
 diperdebatkan. Wong dikalangan pemakai ichingpun banyak pro kontra 
 menggunakan iching sbg alat ngeramal. Sorry nulis dari bawah lagi-susah 
 scroll ke atas pake 6275


Kalo di Test kan jadi ketahuan apakah I Ching itu ada gunanya
untuk Pasar Modal atau tidak.

Dengan tahu jawabannya INI, pak Wimanto akan diuntungkan:
- Jika hasilnya bagus, pak Wimanto akan tambah yakin dengan
  metoda I Ching untuk pasar modal
- JIka hasilnya jelek, pak Wimanto ENGGA akan buang buang waktu
  lagi nerapin I Ching di pasar modal.

Jadi hasilnya bagus atau jelek, pak Wimanto akan diuntungkan
dengan Test ini.

  




Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Ariel Yoseph
pengaruh hrga minyak yg sdh mlewati 70 dan hrga batu bara yg naik 2 dollar hr 
ini.





From: Bozz Trader powerman.tra...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:29:30 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

  
Bumi gitu lho !!!
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] 
On Behalf Of Charles Atmaja
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:39
PM
To: obrolan bandar
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak
maen???
 
  
Wow... ada apa ni???
tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2
mendadak jalan...
 


 
Nama
baru untuk Anda! 
Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. 
Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
   


  

Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik artomoro9
Payah neh si prof, masa lawan iching  aja kaga berani. Lawan dan buktikan  
prof. Ente kan udah bisa buktikan di depan ribuan alumni ente. Kalo bener 
prediksi ente, kan tambah laris kursusnye, kalo salah, ente belajar iching deh. 
He he he.

JT™ wrote: 
    
   
   Si Mbah emang paling demen 'ngejorokin' orang.., hehe.., kite tantang balik 
aja, sanggup gak Ilmu Bandarmologi yg tersohor itu ngelawan I Ching ? 
Hehehe... wus ngibriittt.. ... Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “The only 
fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law of Supply 
and Demand” From :  agung aja Date : Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:46:18 -0700 (PDT) To : 
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject : Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana 
BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09Pak JT, Billy, Pak Tasrul, dan TA-ers 
lain, ditantang Mbah tuh, cuma analisa BUMI 20 hari, masa ngga berani komporin 
dikit ah hehehe     regards From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. 
id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:16:16 PM 
Subject: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09   Apa 
mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu BUMI mulai besok 
?. Jika
 bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy... Dan apa ada yg mau coba 
TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com , 
stock.breeder@ ... wrote:   COOL!!!..   Tomorrow prediction please =)..   
 -Original Message-  From: ichingprediction wimanto_tr@    
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19  To:  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.. com   
Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09For 
record only:  2125-2050 = +75 0--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com , 
ichingprediction wimanto_tr@  wrote: ICHING answer : Yang 
(Old)   Yin (New)   Yang (New)   Yin (New)   Yin (New)   Yin (New)  
 The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince who 
secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that account with 
numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received at interviews. 
  The topmost line, undivided, show
 one advancing his horns. But he only uses them to punish the rebellious people 
of his own city. The position is perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet 
however firm and correct he may be, there will be occasion for regret.The 
situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining 
ground.   Yin (New)   Yin (New)   Yang (New)   Yin (New)   Yin (New) 
  Yin (New)   The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm) : In 
this state, feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put 
in motion, with advantage.   The things most apparent, those above and in 
front, are embodied by the upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into 
Chen (Thunder). As part of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way 
to movement, initiative, and action.   The things least apparent, those below 
and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents 
docility and
 receptivity. -   Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik 
  



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Re: Bls: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik ichingprediction
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ksatria Timur Laut 
ksatria_timur_l...@... wrote:

 Top Banget Pak Wim ...
 
 Mau tanya pak Wim ... utk bertanya ke I Ching .. Pak Wim menggunakan Uang 
 Logam atau Software ?
 
 trims pak Wim 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Terkirim: Senin, 27 Juli, 2009 18:16:16
 Judul: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
   
 Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
 BUMI mulai besok ?.
 
 Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...
 
 Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, stock.breeder@ ... wrote:
 
  COOL!!!.. 
  
  Tomorrow prediction please =)..
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ ...
  
  Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
  
  
  For record only: 2125-2050 = +75 0--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
  ichingprediction wimanto_tr@  wrote:
  
   ICHING answer :
   
   Yang (Old)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince 
   who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that 
   account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is 
   received at interviews.
   The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only 
   uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position 
   is perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct 
   he may be, there will be occasion for regret.
   The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is 
   gaining ground.
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm) : In this state, 
   feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
   motion, with advantage.
   The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
   upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As 
   part of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
   initiative, and action.
   The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
   lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
   
   -
   Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik artomoro9
Kalo berfikir dalam frame AKAN ADA KOREKSI, apapun peristiwa yg terjadi, 
resumenya adalah KOREKSI/DOWN/CRASH yg tinggal menunggu waktu. Begitu juga jika 
berfikir dlm frame BULL/RALLY UP apapun peristiwanya, resume nya akan selalu 
BREAK HIGH/bull raly.  liat persaham saja, gmana kondisi per saham itu, mungkin 
dgn begitu akan lebih fokus pada porto yg sudah atau akan kita beli.

Dean Earwicker wrote: 
    
   UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM 
 udah nyumbang 
 +18 ke IHSG.. 
 Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot 
 yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar 
 sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini 
 UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang 
 murah. 
 Pertanyaannya: 
 Untuk apa BD memanipulasi IHSG agar terlihat segar terus? 
 Jawaban: 
 A. Supaya bisa jualan 
 B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan 
 C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan 
 Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi 
 harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti 
 masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt 
 ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga. 
 Betul ga analisa saya Mbah? 
 Regards, 
 DE 
 2009/7/27 Jacob Oen  oenja...@yahoo. com : 
 Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
 (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%). 
 
 Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts? 
 
  



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Re: [ob] DOW masih akan bullish---10.000

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik DR
dow naik dikit aja, langsung pada take profit...
ke 10.000 masih lama, mungkin koreksi dulu...

--- On Mon, 7/27/09, swan silo swan_gro...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: swan silo swan_gro...@yahoo.com
Subject: [ob] DOW masih akan bullish---10.000
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, my_...@yahoogroups.com, 
sa...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 7:19 AM






 





  Art Cashin: Dow 10,000 Possible Near-TermPublished:
Friday, 24 Jul 2009 | 3:41 PM 
ET Text Size By: CNBC.comThe Dow broke 9,000 yesterday (Thursday) — and has 
hovered at that level Friday. What's next for stock markets?Art Cashin, 
director of floor operations at UBS Financial Services, offered CNBC his 
insights.Cashin touched on the reversal of the bearish head-and-shoulders* 
pattern — a reversal
 that surprised some technical analysts.The failure of the widely-accepted 
pattern turned into a whopping rally, he said.He also cited a CNBC interview 
with star analyst Meredith Whitney, in which she praised Goldman Sachs, as a 
rally factor.Second opinions: SP Headed Straight for 1,250: StrategistPros 
Say: A 'Good Time' to Buy EquitiesLatecomers Will Drive Rally: Citi's
 LevkovichHe
noted extending the market's check point from July 17 to today; and
over this last week, we've had pretty much nothing but rallies.The problem 
is, we're overbought now and we'll probably have a pullback — next week, I 
think.But until that contraction happens, how high can stocks go?[Dow] 10,000 
is not out of the realm of possibility. A little above 1,000 for the SP.The 
rally is going to continue. But, he added, A month or so from now, you might 
see a sudden reversal.

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Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik vividtrader
Btw hasil ngetest Billy gimana ya mbah? saya ketinggalan berita nih..

2009/7/27 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
 BUMI mulai besok ?.

 Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

 Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, stock.bree...@... wrote:
 
  COOL!!!..
 
  Tomorrow prediction please =)..
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: ichingprediction wimanto...@...
 
  Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
 
 
  For record only: 2125-2050 = +75   0--- In
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto_tr@ wrote:
  
   ICHING answer :
  
   Yang (Old)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a
 prince who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that
 account with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is
 received at interviews.
   The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he
 only uses them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position
 is perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he
 may be, there will be occasion for regret.
   The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine
 force) is gaining ground.
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yang (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   Yin (New)
   The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm): In this
 state, feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put
 in motion, with advantage.
   The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by
 the upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As
 part of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement,
 initiative, and action.
   The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by
 the lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
  
   -
   Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
  
 




 

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