Re: Bls: [ob] Idxbot kena dos

2010-03-11 Terurut Topik ajie palembang
Demi allah swt yang menguasai kehidupan dunia dan akherat, Dia maha mengaetahui 
lg maha melihat! Semoga orang2 yang hina dan iri terhadap keberadaan idxbot, 
dijauhkan drnya Rezeki, diberikan kehinaan baik di dunia maupun akherat.. Dan 
berikanlah ya allah ilmu yang lebih banyak lg bermanfaat kpd yg menciptakan 
Idxbot...
Amin 1000x
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From: dts272...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:56:50 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Idxbot kena dos

Kalo kata JT (maksute Justin Timberlake beneran..hehe)
'What Goes Around Comes Around'
Yg iseng ketulahan sendiri lah..wasting time tuk ngebales..

Inget petuah nkong aja..keep doing gut :)

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-Original Message-
From: David Lau dj_davi...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:33:28 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bls: [ob] Idxbot kena dos

Wah urusan ama DOS berat dahh..., nih orang niat banget.

Pelakunya ini pasti orang2 yg merasa terganggu dgn kiprah idxbot.

Gw sumpahin orang yg ngelakuin ini sial seumur hidup..!!

Ayooo..., satu OB sumpahin yg sama biar lebih cepet efeknya.


 
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Terkirim: Kam, 11 Maret, 2010 19:47:04
Judul: [ob] Idxbot kena dos

  
Dos=denial of service

Duh maaf bgt..

Buat pelaku gw sumpahin keselek kondom basah loe...

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Re: [ob] Hore x 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 idxbot bisa lg oi

2010-03-11 Terurut Topik ajie palembang
Wkwkwkwk
Selamet deh...
Bisa liat2 peta saham2 BEI lg
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-Original Message-
From: Novie Chandra Novie noviechan...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:25:11 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Hore x 10 idxbot bisa lg oi

thk 4 all semoga idxbot lebih ok lg


salam

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[ob] Fren Rp 50.- BV: Rp 9.-

2010-03-09 Terurut Topik ajie palembang
Fren semenjak diakusisi oleh smart menjadi SmartFren ga da gaumnya? apa nunggu 
BVnya Rp 40.- baru mau ke utara???

Trus gimana dgn nasib BCIC yg dipasar Nego Rp 1.- per share?
Kapan buka suspendnya?
Apa mau nunggu BD pansus selesai hajatan akumulasi? 
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Re: [ob] NIKL ada berita apa ya?

2010-03-08 Terurut Topik ajie palembang
Dear rekan2 OB
NIKL ada angin apa ya bisa laris dagangan BD?

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Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] ptba

Sabar Pak Rei, investor kan harus sabar he he he, udah mulai cakep tuh..

 



 

 

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Ciri2 ptba kalo lagi konsol ya gini...asal sabar memang.

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Lemot lagi nih...C'mon!!!

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Re: Last Round.... Re: masih berani? .... RE: [ob]

2010-03-07 Terurut Topik ajie palembang
Duh... Lg ngomongin apa she? Makin hari makin aneh nih milis
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[ob] ENRG yang tidak berENRG...

2010-03-07 Terurut Topik ajie palembang
Buat mbak, pak de dan mr JT
Gimana ENRG bsk kira2 TP ke brapa?
Saya pusing ngekepin group bakrie... Skrg masih enak megangin BIPI ama ITMG 
deh...
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From: kangduren kangdu...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:42:10 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Re: [saham] MEDC buat minggu depan

MEDC naiknya lambat dibanding BIPI, BIPI tiba2 bisa naik 20%
bandar MEDC kere?

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wrote:

 MEDC spertinya lagi dikoleksi F
 
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 ?ui=2view=attth=12737f9f9e9a2f5fattid=0.1disp=attdrealattid=ii_12737f9f9e9a2f5fzw]
 
 Order spike pun meningkat.
 
 [image:
 ?ui=2view=attth=12737fa15357d6b0attid=0.1disp=attdrealattid=ii_12737fa15357d6b0zw]
 
 2010/3/7 ANak.TAMbang anak.tamb...@...
 
  Sepi sekali milis yang satu ini, bagaimana kalau diramaiakan sedikit.
 
  Kalau minggu depan MEDC bagaimana ya kira2 ? Ada yang punya pendapat ?
  Katanya ada yang mau buat MEDC turun, tapi malah bagus tuh kayanya, jadi
  kesempatan buat ngumpulin ? ;)
 
  Salam SAYANG, da®i ANak.TAMbang !!!
 
 






Re: [ob] To Mbah : Kenapa ITMG turun terus?

2009-08-10 Terurut Topik Ajie Perdana
ikut bantu jawab yah..
kmrn2 ada pricing dari broker luar.. lupa apa.. katanya itmg ditargetin 22rb..

  - Original Message - 
  From: calon trader hebat 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] To Mbah : Kenapa ITMG turun terus?


Ikut koment, sy lg nunggu ITMG juga, kalo pake chart nya HOTS  , MACD lagi 
mau death cross. Sy sih nungguin nanti, kalo harga udah ga mau turun dan MACD 
mau golden cross baru beli.
  Ketinggalan Bumi, nunggu sinyal ITMG aja lah. 



  2009/8/10 Pingin Untung pinginunt...@yahoo.com

  


Mbah, kenapa ITMG susah sekali naiknya?  Malah turun terus sementara yang 
lainnya pada naik. Stock ITMG saya nyangkut di level 26ribua-an. Apakah ITMG 
boleh hajar kanan pada kondisi ini Mbah? Pada level berapa?

Banyak terima kasih untuk saran Embah.






  

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Re: [ob] artomoro berlibur

2009-08-07 Terurut Topik Ajie Perdana
ditunggu aksinya jenderalll...


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  From: Steven Tan 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] artomoro berlibur


Mantaff, jendral disorakin langsung marah.. he he. tutup 186 atau 187 nih?




  2009/8/7 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id

  


  HOLD TRUBA

  TP  200

  hari kamis 13 agustus 2009 sesi 1

  A9.




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Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com
Judul: RE: [ob] artomoro berlibur

Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Tanggal: Jumat, 7 Agustus, 2009, 3:38 PM


  

Ye…, tadi pagi ente nyuruh orang hajar hajar aje tapi ente 
malah mau pegi liburan, giimana tuh ??



JT





(Hahaha…, gentian lo, kemaren lusa ngeledek gua…,  emang enak 
??, haha)



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Sent: 07 Agustus 2009 15:22
To: ob
Subject: [ob] artomoro berlibur









  mumpung embah OOT:


  masa cuma karena gue mau liburan 3 hari doang ihsg jadi merah 
sih...



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Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!



  

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Re: [ob] BNBR

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Ajie Perdana
luarrr biasa jendralll.. saluteee


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  From: Sauky Kamal 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR



  Tuh sempet nyentuh 128 kan... yang ndak greedy en uda pasang jual di 128 
seperti kata jendral

  pasti udah CUANN 


  2009/8/6 Steven Tan suts...@gmail.com

  
Ayo om jendral, 

masih ada 25 menit nih, 4 poin lagi, biar genap and ntar jendral bisa 
bilang I tot U lagi hihihi



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  Yup jendral...
  Kayaknya mandek neh jendral...he2...
  Canda bos...




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  Subject: [ob] BNBR


  Jendral Arto

  BNBR nggak jadi 11% nih?


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Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik Ajie
Roubini is bullish now.
World Bank desperately wants to make money from negative condition.

Peace.

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From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com

Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:19:29 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation


*When I said this, you didn't (want to) believe me, did you..
* *
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Elaine

World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation
Friday, July 17, 2009 8:53 AM

*By:* Julie Crawshaw A

The World Bank has given warning that the global economy will fall
into a deflationary
spiral unless urgent action is taken to reduce high levels of excess
capacity in industry, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reported in the UK Telegraph.

Justin Lin, the bank’s chief economist, said factories running idle around
world threaten to trap economies in a vicious cycle, risking further spasms
of financial stress that require more rescue packages.

No country can count on currency depreciation and exports as a way out of
recession. Unless we deal with excess capacity, it will wreak havoc on all
countries,” Lin said.

“There is urgent need for global coordinated fiscal stimulus,” with
investments being focused on infrastructure in poor countries that are
bearing the brunt of the global crisis, he said.

Lin’s comments came as the Bank of Japan agreed to extend its quantitative
easing (QE) policies — mostly the purchase of corporate debt — and warned
that business investment is declining sharply.”

Powerful deflationary headwinds already have created deflation in Japan,
leading the International Monetary Fund to say that the Japanese government
and central bank should be ready to provide additional stimulus measures
should global demand fail to improve enough to support a recovery.

“There are downside risks, particularly if export demand continues to remain
weak and unemployment starts to weaken consumption further,” Jim Gordon, the
IMF mission chief to Japan, told Bloomberg. “This emphasizes the importance
of monetary policy, fiscal policy and financial sector policy to remain
supportive with additional measures” if the outlook deteriorates.

 © 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

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 http://moneynews.newsmax.com/streettalk/deflation/2009/07/17/236865.html



 

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[ob] If You Think Worst Is Over, Take Benjamin Graham's Advice - WSJ

2009-05-23 Terurut Topik Ajie
It is sometimes said that to be an intelligent investor, you must be 
unemotional. That isn't true; instead, you should be inversely emotional.Even 
after recent turbulence, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is up roughly 30% 
since its low in March. It is natural for you to feel happy or relieved about 
that. But Benjamin Graham believed, instead, that you should train yourself to 
feel worried about such events.At this moment, consulting Mr. Graham's wisdom 
is especially fitting. Sixty years ago, on May 25, 1949, the founder of 
financial analysis published his book, The Intelligent Investor, in whose 
honor this column is named. And today the market seems to be in just the kind 
of mood that would have worried Mr. Graham: a jittery optimism, an insecure and 
almost desperate need to believe that the worst is over.You can't turn off your 
feelings, of course. But you can, and should, turn them inside out.Stocks have 
suddenly become more expensive to accumulate. Since March, according to data 
from Robert Shiller of Yale, the price/earnings ratio of the SP 500 index has 
jumped from 13.1 to 15.5. That's the sharpest, fastest rise in almost a 
quarter-century. (As Graham suggested, Prof. Shiller uses a 10-year average P/E 
ratio, adjusted for inflation.)Over the course of 10 weeks, stocks have moved 
from the edge of the bargain bin to the full-price rack. So, unless you are 
retired and living off your investments, you shouldn't be celebrating, you 
should be worrying.Mr. Graham worked diligently to resist being swept up in the 
mood swings of Mr. Market -- his metaphor for the collective mind of 
investors, euphoric when stocks go up and miserable when they go down.In an 
autobiographical sketch, Mr. Graham wrote that he embraced stoicism as a 
gospel sent to him from heaven. Among the main components of his internal 
equipment, he also said, were a certain aloofness and unruffled 
serenity.Mr. Graham's last wife described him as humane, but not human. I 
asked his son, Benjamin Graham Jr., what that meant. His mind was elsewhere, 
and he did have a little difficulty in relating to others, Buz Graham said 
of his father. He was always internally multitasking. Maybe people who go into 
investing are especially well-suited for it if they have that distance or 
detachment.Mr. Graham's immersion in literature, mathematics and philosophy, 
he once remarked, helped him view the markets from the standpoint of eternity, 
rather than day-to-day.Perhaps as a result, he almost invariably read the 
enthusiasm of others as a yellow caution light, and he took their misery as a 
sign of hope.His knack for inverting emotions helped him see when markets had 
run to extremes. In late 1945, as the market was rising 36%, he warned 
investors to cut back on stocks; the next year, the market fell 8%. As stocks 
took off in 1958-59, Mr. Graham was again pessimistic; years of jagged returns 
followed. In late 1971, he counseled caution, just before the worst bear market 
in decades hit.In the depths of that crash, near the end of 1974, Mr. Graham 
gave a speech in which he correctly forecast a period of many years in which 
stock prices may languish.Then he startled his listeners by pointing out this 
was good news, not bad: The true investor would be pleased, rather than 
discouraged, at the prospect of investing his new savings on very satisfactory 
terms. Mr. Graham added a more startling note: Investors would be enviably 
fortunate to benefit from the advantages of a long bear market.Today, it has 
become trendy to declare that buy and hold is dead. Some critics regard 
dollar-cost averaging, or automatically investing a fixed amount every month, 
as foolish.Asked if dollar-cost averaging could ensure long-term success, Mr. 
Graham wrote in 1962: Such a policy will pay off ultimately, regardless of 
when it is begun, provided that it is adhered to conscientiously and 
courageously under all intervening conditions.For that to be true, however, 
the dollar-cost averaging investor must be a different sort of person from the 
rest of us ... not subject to the alternations of exhilaration and deep gloom 
that have accompanied the gyrations of the stock market for generations 
past.This, Mr. Graham concluded, I greatly doubt.He didn't mean that no 
one can resist being swept up in the gyrating emotions of the crowd. He meant 
that few people can. To be an intelligent investor, you must cultivate what Mr. 
Graham called firmness of character -- the ability to keep your own emotional 
counsel.Above all, that means resisting the contagion of Mr. Market's 
enthusiasm when stocks are suddenly no longer cheap.

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Re: [ob] Hold or CL - perdagangan harian membingungan, but longer horizon good

2009-05-16 Terurut Topik Ajie
Kalau memang porsi posisi nyangkut di BG kecil, mending CL aja pak. Namanya jg 
gorengan, susah ditebak apa maunya. Hitung2 biaya buat nambah pengalaman...  
Saya jg sempat nyangkut dan udah CL, masuk di UNVR, lumayan bisa ngurangin 
loss. FYI, porsi asing di SBI dan SUN jg mulai turun, kayaknya akan ada 
pembalikan sementara. Nunggu dulu hasil hajatan besar.
Mohon maaf kalau tdk berkenan. 
Disc on
-Original Message-
From: efendi elias eliasefe...@yahoo.com

Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 01:18:16 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Hold or CL - perdagangan harian membingungan, but longer 
horizon good


Seingat saya Bumi masih ada gap di 1380...Pak JT tlg donk liati TA nya bener 
ngak...kalo bener bisa2 bumi senen nanti akan sekalian menutup gap itu...Kalo 
harga itu tercapai cl pun percuma...yg ada malah technical rebound...Bisa2 
hilang barangYg saya bingung BNBR...sdh 2 hari volume begitu besar...kalau 
tdk salah,hari kamis sampai 10 jt lot lebih

--- On Sat, 5/16/09, Wisdom Stock Trader isx_tra...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Wisdom Stock Trader isx_tra...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Hold or CL - perdagangan harian membingungan, but longer 
horizon good
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 2:59 PM
















  
  Saya juga setuju tuh ma BOS ND :)

- perdagangan saham hari senin depan masih 'kritis rebound or + turun...
- utk horison jangka panjang... cek SBI... 
  krn trendnya menurun. saham secara fundamental trendnya akan bullish
  INGAT KAN, KONSEP DASAR ANALISIS FUNDAMENTAL:
  semakin rendah tingkat bunga, maka semakin tinggi nilai fundamentaL 
perusahaan.

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--- On Sat, 5/16/09, nyari duit nyariduit153@ gmail.com wrote:

From: nyari duit nyariduit153@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Hold or CL
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 7:42 AM









  
  Menurut saya mungkin mirip dengan kejadian 22 April 2009. Dimana saham 
bakrie turun menyikapi pisah SBY JK.. hari Jumat mungkin juga menyikapi 
pencalonan SBY-Budiono, sebagai triger dari Bandar untuk melakukan short. Yang 
menjadi catatan saya, volume sangat besar pada saat 2 hari sebelum hari Jumat. 
Dan akhir sesi kemaren dinaikin lagi.. apakah ini semata cover short aja. Kalo 
memang cover short kenapa reboundnya cukup tinggi?? 

Memang DJI koreksi, tapi data-data ekonomi US tidak ada yang parah-parah amat.
Pada bulan april setelah koreksi dalam volume bakrie mengecil.. dan setelah itu 
mulai besar lagi..
Kalo menurut saya dengan harga penutupan kemaren Jumat, menurut saya koreksi di 
Bakrie masih wajar..
 
Menurut saya susah menganalisa kejadian hari Jumat kemaren, karena memang tidak 
ada alasan yang jelas, kecuali koreksi saham-saham yang memang naiknya kencang..
 
Kalo bagi saya, saya tidak khawatir sama sekali.
Big picture masih OK..
Kalo anda seorang investor.. hold Bakrie. :D. Kalo pun dia tambah turun, saya 
yakin paling lambat 2 tahun lagi akan mencapai harga tertinggi lagi. Pegang 
yang EBITDA nya tetap terus tumbuh..
 
Kalo anda seorang trader, terserah anda..!!!
 
 
Salam,

ND


 
2009/5/16 helen_setiawan88@ yahoo.com

Mbah minta petunjuknya donk
Kalo kita banyak pegang saham2 BG untuk minggu depan ini lebih baik kita hold 
atau cl agar tidak kejeblos lebih dlm lg.mengigat harga yg saya beli hrg pd 
hari kamis kemaren (hrg tertinggi).

Tolong dijawab ya mbah pertanyaan sy dan unk teman2 yang masih amatir seperti 
sy.


Thx

HS
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Re: [ob] yang mau ikutan ASRI-W, antri di 6-7

2009-05-15 Terurut Topik Ajie
Mau ikutan pak, cuman blm tahu caranya dagang W. Apa kayak saham biasa ya? Satu 
lot jg 500lbr?
Maksudnya duit dingin apa nih pak?
Sorry banyak nanya, Maklum nyubie nih. 
Tks sebelumnya
Aji

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From: Mira Harjanto mira...@gmail.com

Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:50:27 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] yang mau ikutan ASRI-W, antri di 6-7


Lho tadi kan udah 16 dan sekarang 12-13, kalo mau ke 6-7 dulu short
sell ya pak Dean? Ngangkut nih!

2009/5/15, Agus Winardy agu...@hotmail.com:
 Bole nganti brp lot pak de? Hehe nanti kalo kebanyakan kan ga enak =p

 AW
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 From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

 Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 03:55:55
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] yang mau ikutan ASRI-W, antri di 6-7


 TP di 10-12 (50%-100% coan)

 Pake duit dingin tapi ya..

 *khusus dewasa*

 disc.on

 Regards,
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Re: [ob] Cermati UNVR (untuk mbah)

2009-04-02 Terurut Topik Ajie
Kalau gak salah ada di bloomberg ada komentar analis asing target harga 
desember sekitar rp7000 pak. Apa gara2 ini ya...?

-Original Message-
From: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:07:32 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] Cermati UNVR (untuk mbah)


Mbah, inikah pengorbanan bandar supaya indeks naik..jual UNVR dulu mereka ??

Dario Amran

--- Pada Kam, 2/4/09, Joshua Dharmawan jos...@sunbyte.net menulis:

Dari: Joshua Dharmawan jos...@sunbyte.net
Topik: RE: [ob] Cermati UNVR
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Kamis, 2 April, 2009, 11:49 AM




















Per 2 Apriil 2008, 11:48. 

   

Apakah sudah cukup ok untuk di tampung? 

- 
Volume cukup. 

- 
Menyentuh fibo  

   

   

 

   





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Sent: 02 April 2009 7:27

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Subject: [ob] Cermati UNVR 





   








 
  
  Cermati UNVR:

  Now... sudah di harga suport:7750, 

  Resistence di 8000-8100, TP 8200

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] transaksi derivatif

2009-01-26 Terurut Topik Ajie
Yang dilarang BI adalah transaksi derivatif berupa structured products yg 
melibatkan valas dan rupiah. Contoh dari structured ini misalnya callable 
forward, target redemption forward dsb. Derivatif yang plain vanilla masih 
diperbolehkan. 
Mudah2an bermanfaat.
Salam,
Aji
 
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From: Armando Anthony armando.anth...@yahoo.com

Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:03:11 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] transaksi derivatif


Sepertinya transaksi derivatives sudah dilarang oleh BI (baru liat Pak Boediono 
di Metro) sejak bbrp waktu lalu.  Mohon info derivatives yg mana yang dilarang?

Sebelumnya trims atas sharingnya.

Armando



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: KENA DEH ......INDF HEBAT ......Mainan Bandar???

2008-11-22 Terurut Topik Ajie
Bukannya kedepan tingkat bunga malah akan turun mbah?
Fed kata orang malah udah siap ke zero rate. Meskipun saya gak begitu tahu ttg 
utang INDF itu bagian besarnya di USD atau rupiah, tapi setidaknya jika bunga 
turun makan biaya bunga akan turun juga kan?
Salam,
Aji


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Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:30:53 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: KENA  DEH  ..INDF HEBAT  ..Mainan 
Bandar???


Pak Kusni,

- Disaat liquiditas ketat, akuisi Indolakto bukan dengan harga
  'resesi'.
- Kedepan interest rate akan tinggi padahal utang INDF gede,
  DER nya = 3,27
  http://www.investdata.net/QSINDF.TXT
  Bisa tahan berapa lama sampe akhirnya RI juga ?.
- Dari segi technical, INDF bikin new low, jadi penilaian
  market berlawanan dengan isue fundamental yg bapak sebut.
 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kusni [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Fakta dibawah ini barangkali lolos dari perhatian:
 
 1. Selama tahun 2008, Q1-Q3 earning INDF mantap
 2. Harga saat ini 5x earning
 3. Harga wheat, bahan baku utama INDF, sudah turun 50%.
 
 4. Harga veg oil, bahan baku utama INDF juga, sudah turun 60%.
 5. Harga plastik, kemasan utama INDF, sudah turun seiring 
turunnya
 harga minyak
 6. Harga minyak turun, ada peluang solar turun, maka biaya 
distribusi
 bisa turun
 7. Persaingan makin enteng, karena kompetitor mulai kedodoran
 Keuntungan dari LSIP memang akan turun, tapi baka DIKOMPENSASI oleh
 peningkatan keuntungan di bisnis lain.
 Saat ini mungkin PER=5 masih belum begitu menarik, tapi tahun depan 
PER
 segitu mungkin sangat atraktif. Jika duit yang keluar dari BEI bakal
 balik, maka INDF adalah salah satu yang terbaik untu dijasikan 
sasaran.
 
 BEI memang ajaib. Jangankan INDF yang PER=5, emiten lain yang juga
 market leader saja cuman dihargai PER=2. Padahal yang namanya market
 leader, the strongest in the sector, mustinya kan paling tidak E/P
 dihargai = yield SUN.
 
 Salam
 Kusni
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gavriel ardian
 gavriel.ardian@ wrote:
 
 
  Hngeri...pantesan suka bikin new lowest tahun ini..
 
  To: obrolan-bandar@: assegaf_achmad@: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:09:51
 -0800Subject: [obrolan-bandar] KENA DEH ..INDF HEBAT
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  hebat indf mainnya.
 
  siip
 
 
  ahmad
 
 
 
 
 
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