Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TOTAL RECALL (PART 2) --- To Aimee
Kalau lihat posisi buy-sell broker asing: (jam 11.25) Buy ValSell Val YU 36.5 82 BK 30.5 71.8 KZ42.1 58.9 AK57.4532.7 ZP48.3540.9 DB35.7 49.8 - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TOTAL RECALL (PART 2) --- To Aimee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dgn kata lain kalo kita beli sekarang berarti makan buangan mereka dong Mbah...bukannya kita mesti diam saja jangan makan biar mereka gak bisa keluar juga krn gak ada yg beli? :-) Disini ada asumsi bahwa: FM asing mau cao dari indonesia, yang BELUM terbukti. Benar atau tidaknya asumsi ini akan terlihat pada grafik Capital Flow. Kita ambil asumsi Aimee bener: - Kalo baru naek segini, mereka udah JUALAN lagi, siapa yg mau beli barang mereka yg seabrek abrek besok besok. - Untuk jualan barang triliunan, grafik IHSG harus diukir ampe semua analis TA bilang BUY, Golden Cross, dll, minimum pak DE udah mulai jadi investor lah... - Baru mereka bisa jualan diharga bagus karena market 'bullish'. Kalo grafik IHSG mau terus dibikin NEW LOW, atau pak Halim masih bulak balik bilang BUY terus besok SELL, artinya trader engga mau bawa barang kerumah. Nah kalo begini terus, silahkan bawa kambing saja keluar dari BEI... hehehe... IHSG +50... UNSP +9% kena provokasi embah semalem... hehehe... On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:55 AM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IHSG 1153 +39 FM yg mau kabur dari BEI HARUS naekin IHSG atau mereka cuman bisa bawa kambing keluar dari Indonesia... FYI: Rumus Bandarmologi INI BELUM PERNAH SALAH --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Ratu Sima RATUSIMA@ wrote: To continue my last week's sentence: And when it fails... PLAIN. Please never be diillusioned with 'soon rebound'. This Thursday Friday is CRITICAL COORDINATE. As THEIR GDP is downstairing... (and the momentum) Redundancy is soaring... Bankruptcy is piling... Bank financial industry is 'on death-row pardon'... Yet it's still reloaded with China Japan's incubation as dollar is cripping up. The 'Invincible Maestro' has been in the market. HE has quadrippled himself into HIGH-END GAME SUCKERS (via HF SS notoriously). Simply prove it through how Rp is slowly depreciating slowly and pricelessly... Then learn the history of 98. Sweet whispers on Indo economic defense strength, 'No Worry Nina Bobo', BB, 4T Guarantee, so on so forth is NULL. When they can't even save their own value stocks, how could they dream of saving their people's (read: retailers) stocks? Look at the Death Rows (34)... And the gut instinct to save via BB? Totally 0. NOT YET ANY green clue at present. Om Tante Eyang, esp. Embah for your lovely question: To us, 1000 is NOT PREDICTION. It's CONVICTION. WB is history, NOT EVEN both Obama his rival are figuring out of him as Finance Minister. Too LATE. Current players are much sharper than even Scottish Swords. Please save our soul. I am Aimee. NO DISCLAIMER!
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG - capital flow
setelah dua hari rally, bagaimana dg capital flow, mbah?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OPEC decides to curb overproduction
ET - Eastern Time -, kalo nggak salah = 8.52 WIB - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OPEC decides to curb overproduction Minyak bergerak naik 2 dollar ke 104,5... Tolong itungin kalo 9:52 PM ET itu sekitar berapa jam yg lalu dalam WIB. Apakah itu 3 jam lalu saat minyak berada di $102 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, natali jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP OPEC decides to curb overproduction Tuesday September 9, 9:52 pm ET OPEC oil ministers decide curb overproduction by more than 500,000 barrels a day VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- OPEC oil ministers have decided to curb overproduction by more than 500,000 barrels. The move is a compromise meant to avoid new turmoil in oil markets while at the same time reflecting OPEC attempts to prevent prices from falling too far. Crude prices have dropped nearly 30 percent since spiking to nearly $150 a barrel in July. Â An OPEC statement issued after oil ministers ended their meeting early Wednesday said the organization agreed to produce 28.8 million barrels a day. OPEC President Chakib Khelil said that quota in effect meant that member countries agreed to cut back 520,000 barrels a day in overproduction. Â THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Â Â New Email addresses available on Yahoo! Get the Email name you#39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/
[obrolan-bandar] CPO merah lagi
CPO mulai merah, last=2470 alias -14 setelah siang sempat berjaya dg highest di 2555.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CIMB mencretin INDF terussssss? Cut loss aja ah
kalo nggak salah karena penjualan mie 2008 ini turun 5,..% (lupa tepatnya) - Original Message - From: Petualang Saham To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CIMB mencretin INDF teruss? Cut loss aja ah Ya klo MIE-nya INDOMIE... Klo yang NYOGOK pilih MIE SEDAP... Permennya pake PERMEN CICAK... Hiks... Just kidding --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Winoto99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: oentoeng_qq [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:51 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CIMB mencretin INDF teruss? Cut loss aja ah Begitulah pak... Siapa tahu waktu kampanye BESOK, PARTAI2 nyogok rakyat kecil selain pake DOEIT juga pake MIE...biasanya juga dikasih PERMEN, BISKUIT dll. Jadi rasanya lebih RAME gitu... Karena kampanye belon mulai jadi SABARlah... Sekedar pendapet daripada kami setelah Pak Oentoeng memberiken daripada petunjuknya : MIE = INDF PERMEN, BISKUIT, dll = MYOR Apakah ini yang dimaksudken oleh Beliau ? Terima Kasih
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: USDIDR lagi main
sepertinya USD naek thd hampir semua currency. tadi USD-EUR sempat ke 1.5999 sekarang tinggal 1.5949. Crude pun ikutan turun ke 117.87, tadi sempat 118.24 - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: USDIDR lagi main Dulu kan ini PERNAH terjadi Subsidi engga dicabut -- USD naik terus Subsidi dicabut -- USD langsung turun tapi harga2 naik -- inflasi, rakyat marah, akhirnya NYESEL nyabut subsidi minyak. Jadi siap siap aja US naik karena pemerintah pasti takut nyabut subsidi, mereka lagi ngulur2 waktu siapa tahu minyak turun lagi ketika minyak nyentuk $120.. Tapi kalo mikiran SCENARIO GLOBAL: Oil dinaikin setinggi2nya, DJI mencapai puncaknya. Udah itu DJI dijeblokin lagi, minyak turun lagi... Nah harga minyak setinggi tingginya ITU BERAPA ?. Mudah mudahan cuman level $120, kasian rakyat kecil... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rangga_the_demon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: betul neh mbahpara tukang dollar lagi siap2 pesta poranunggu bancakan dari intervensi BIyang jadi pertanyaan apa BI mau intervensi di level yang cuma segini..??? trus apa para tukang dollar puas dengan profit yang cuma segini ..??? kalo bisa sih akan mereka dorong sampe nyemplung ke 9400 ...mungkin ga ya..??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Gaya gayanya USD mau naik nih Tekanan subsidi BBM dan LISTRIK akan membuat APBN jadi mandul.. Ini akan memaksa pemerintah mencabut subsidi tapi buntut buntutnya bisa jadi SOCIAL UNREST... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: USDIDR lagi main http://www.forexdirectory.net/idr.html
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Belanja ah..
Pak DE bisa tolong bantu pencerahan, mengapa Fed harus turunin rate lagi jika minyak turun ? Bukannya kenaikan minyak, bikin krisis tambah parah? - Original Message - From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Belanja ah.. met subuh wew, jgn dulu pak, saya sendiri lihat market masih bearish. Seandainya minyak turun akan memaksa fed turunin rate lagi, sehingga dollar akan melemah lagi dan minyak bisa tembus diatas 120. Itu bahaya buat kita (nggak juga sih kl pegang cash, bisa buat dapet barang diskon..hehe) Harus sangat selektif pegang barang, saham yang bullish emang ada pastinya, tapi yang turun juga buanyak. Regards, DE 2008/4/23 icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kalo sy gak nyangkut tuh, INDF nya baru masuk tadi 2200 pas liat harga CPO rebound, hehehe senangnya Mr. DE thx yah dah sering posting lagi...that a sign of bull..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Coal dan CPO doang yg naik tahun 2008
Kalau SBI tetap, BBM naik, inflasi naik, sedangkan IMF mo jual emas, jadi emas susah naek, kemungkinan orang akan invest di property ??? CTRA, ELTY, ? - Original Message - From: Kidod25 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Coal dan CPO doang yg naik tahun 2008 dari beberapa riset update, sektor yang naik yaitu coal dan CPO, yang lain pada di downgrade karena BBM akan naik, inflasi naik, suku bunga naik. perbankan, multifinance, sekuritas akan jeblok. infrastruktur, consumen akan jeblok. sebegitu menakutkankah tahun 2008? menurut saya BBM tidak akan naik karena SBY sama aja dengan menelanjangi dirinya sendiri (bentar lagi pemilu) nih, Kalau naik juga ga separah tahun 2005, paling mentok 500 perak/ liter, dan ini harus bertahap kalau mau aman. begitu juga dengan SBI tidak akan naik walau inflasi gede (ini untuk jaga image). Tapi nanti yang kepilih nanti di 2009 bakal apes dah ada yg bisa kasih masukan?
[obrolan-bandar] ask: transaksi antar broker gantian
mbah, mo tanya dari sisi bardarmology. Mengapa ada transaksi yang silih berganti makan dan kasih di harga tertentu antar 2 broker yang berbeda ? Contoh di BDMN hari ini di harga 6000. Muncul offer, AK makan, ganti posisi Bid di 6000. Ngak pake lama DB guyur, jadi offer lagi. AK makan lagi, DB guyur lagi. begitu terus bolak balik. Kalo boleh tahu, apa pelajaran dari fenomena tsb. dari sisi bandarmologi. thanks a lot sebelonnya
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BEI sekarang
Pak HMin, bagaimana dengan volume udah cukup belum ? Sesi 2 kelihatannya BD goreng 2nd liner untuk naekkan volume - Original Message - From: Halim Mintareja To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BEI sekarang yup...kurang lebih seperti itu... nyerah deh sama BEI...cepet amit mainnya :)) gak level oei 2008/4/16 Tenkai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hehe.. curiganya hari rabu-kamis, jumat mulai ragu.. Minggu baru sadar ketipu ya, pak hmin? Regards Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dam...ketipu abis...baru sadar awal minggu terpaksa main mini :)) 2008/4/16 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ternyata bandar memakai strategi naikkan index dimana sebagian besar member OB mengharapkan bearish ke 2000 dgn ember masing2 (pantesan ember di Carrefour habis ;p)! http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/75798 Akankah lanjut terus? Masing2 ambil kesimpulan sendiri deh, saya masih menyimpan bukti di milis...siapa tahu masih berguna? hehehe... Safe trading! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links between -00-00 and -99-99
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG technical: Target Selasa 2320
mohon pencerahannya, mbah, mengapa tambang US akan melemah ntar malem? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG technical: Target Selasa 2320 14:31 IHSG +28 di 2301... Beranikan BOZZ menaikan IHSG 19 point lagi ? mengingat saham tambang US akan melemah nanti malam... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9:26 IHSG Technical: Target Selasa 2320 http://www.trader2000.com/piwihsg.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lebih baik minyak 120 atau 80 us?
memang menjelang Pemilu pemerintah tersandera dengan subsidi BBM. Berani nggak ya, pemerintah menaikkan harga BBM, atau paling tidak lebih mengoptimalkan subsidi BBM dengan misalnya, kalo memungkinkan mengeluarkan peraturan untuk sedan dan mobil bensin di atas 2000 cc wajib pake Pertamax, jadi nggak pakai premium yg disubsidi. Paling tidak jumlah yg disubsidi berkurang, jadi APBN lebih ringan. - Original Message - From: indf2000 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 2:30 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lebih baik minyak 120 atau 80 us? Untuk BEI sepertinya lebih baik minyak ke 80 daripada ke 120, dampaknya terhadap market pasti akan sangat bullish, semua sektor akan ngeBULL. Memang cuan emiten CPO dan batubara tidak akan spektakuler lagi, tapi toh tetap untung, dan market yg bullish akan mengangkat harga saham ke-awang2. Kalau minyak ke 120, sentimen bearish akan sangat kuat, walaupun emiten CPO dan batubara akan meraup cuan yg lebih besar tapi harga sahamnya bisa2 malah turun. Karena market bearish akan mendiscount habis2an harga saham sebagus apapun saham itu. Sebetulnya kalau pemerintah tidak tersandera dengan subsidi BBM, dampak kenaikan harga minyak tidak akan terlalu berat. Pemerintah semestinya harus berani secara bertahap melepas harga BBM mengikuti harga pasar, dengan demikian ekonomi Indonesia menjadi lebih kuat, kepercayaan pasar akan meningkat. - Original Message - From: Kidod25 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:18 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Lebih baik minyak 120 atau 80 us? Mana yg menimbulkan efek negatif ke bej? Jika minyak 120, bbm naik, inflasi naik, suku bunga bisa naik, tapi harga komoditas ikut naik, saham cpo , batu bara bisa happy tapi kalau minyak ke 80, bisa terulang kejadian awal tahun 08.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MIXED signal ....Re: Tekanan terhadap MEDC ....
Bozz bikin binggung Mbah. Jangan-jangan Bull Trap, kok membiarkan wong cilik belanja dulu - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MIXED signal Re: Tekanan terhadap MEDC --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TLKM,ASII,PGAS,INDF merah BUMI IJO ini ada duit masuk apa keluar mbah ?? Yg penting STRATEGInya: - BBCA dan MEDC dituruni buat NAKUTIN trader beli.. - ITMG dinaekin tinggi, BUMI lagi diam di 5600-5650 !! Signal yg dikasih BOZZ: MIXED (engga jelas) ? Musti tunggu MOVE selanjutnya si BOZZ ?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM
di NY pun Altria alias Phillip Morris (begitu juga Honeywell) sudah dikeluarkan dari DJIA digantikan Bank of America Chevron. Bisa dilihatkan industri apa yang perlu diperhatikan ke depannya. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM Kalo utk saya prbadi (and the real facts do not make a different), Industri rokok itu gak punya growth dan masuk dalam kategori sunset industri Kalo dari syariah gak masuk hitungan (haram) Dia punya diversifikasi Cuma dua arah, Marlboro bikin kretek atau sampoerna bikin rokok putih Atau dia jual sekalian dan masuk ke industri lain yang lebih futuristic (bank, agri, hotel dsb) A3K From: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prasetyo, Hani Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:15 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO : Akumulasi Bagaimana dgn GGRM apakah cukup bagus buat dikoleksi? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hendrik_lwww Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:51 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO : Akumulasi Biar variasi gitu lho... jangan hanya ANTM ama BUMI aja.. Analisa CNKO, emang rada mahal seh, Tapi masih banyak peluang naiknya.. MACD signal naik (beberapa hari lalau cross MACD) Kalau tembus 210 (2 point dari 200 - harga sekarang) atau FIBO 38, maka berpeluang naik ke 250 (Fibo 23,6) Beritanya kan CNKO mau kerjasama dengan singapura, kalau lancar katanya bisa naikin profit 10x lipat.. Selama 2 bulan terakhir udah oversold, makanya, peluang naiknya lumayan besar Bisa dikoleksi nih di kisaran 190-200 Teman2 OB yang laen gimana commentnya mengenai CNKO... With Love...
[obrolan-bandar] LME news
LONDON, March 7 (Reuters) - Nickel surged nearly 5 percent on Wednesday to a record high of $42,350 a tonne as tight supply triggered more buying from speculators, traders said. Copper gained nearly 3 percent and other metals also perked up as wary investors returned to recovering financial markets. Confidence seems to be coming back to all markets, said Adam Rowley, analyst at Macquarie Bank. Non-exchange traded commodities like iron ore are still extremely strong. It shows the strength of demand and the ongoing difficulties of delivering supply. Three-month nickel MNI3 on the London Metal Exchange closed up nearly 4 percent at $42,000/42,005 a tonne, from $40,400 on Tuesday. Prices have risen by around 25 percent since the start of this year. There was a burst of fund buying this afternoon, a LME trader said. The betting is on higher prices ... Low stocks, tight supplies and still very strong demand. Stocks of nickel, used mostly to make stainless steel, fell 162 tonnes in LME warehouses to 3,648 tonnes on Wednesday. But only around 2,274 tonnes -- less than one day of global consumption -- is available for delivery. A market deficit is expected in 2007, with continued upside likely from potential output disruptions, Standard Chartered said in a research note. The bank expects LME nickel prices to average $29,875 a tonne this year and $19,500 a tonne in 2008. TENTATIVE RECOVERY Sentiment on financial markets remained nervous, but European shares tentatively recovered and high-yielding currencies stabilised near recent lows. Stephen Briggs, economist with SGCIB, said the turbulence of the past week had been mainly a financial event, but might trigger a deeper move down in metals if it starts to have economic implications. Aversion of risk, which leads to much wider credit spreads and so forth, all points to a tightening of monetary conditions, therefore less stimulative conditions and potentially slower growth, he said. It could still do that. Copper futures MCU3 ended up at $6,140 a tonne from $5,965 on Tuesday. In New York, copper for May delivery HGK7 closed up 6.85 cents or 2.5 percent at $2.7820 a lb on the New York Mercantile Exchange's COMEX division, its best settlement since Feb. 27, after trading a session range between $2.7125 and $2.7925. Traders took note of a fire overnight at Codelco's 300,000 tonne-per-year Radomiro Tomic plant in northern Chile, which hit production. [ID:nN06428695] But the news did not ignite a buying frenzy as stocks of copper, while still sparse by historical standards, are no longer critically low. Traders said Wednesday's options declaration went through without any fanfare. The focus had been on aluminium as there were a large number of outstanding contracts to buy metal at strikes between $2,900 and $3,000 a tonne. But as prices are well off that level, those contracts were no longer in play and the metal did not even break $2,700 -- where there were some more outstanding contracts -- during the morning session before declaration. Aluminium MAL3 gained to $2,730 from $2,690. It was fairly evident the calls weren't going to be declared on aluminium, copper straddled the strike at $6,000...there was no excitement, no fireworks, a trader said. Lead MPB3 gained $30 to $1,850, tin MSN3 added $275 to $13,600 and zinc MZN3 ended at $3,360 from $3,310.
[obrolan-bandar] LME News
LONDON, March 6 (Reuters) - Copper recovered on Tuesday alongside firmer equity prices as investor selling subsided, but analysts said the market remained wary of a further sell-off. Generally higher base metal prices and stronger equity market sentiment boosted mining shares. London-listed Vedanta VED.L, Anglo American AAL.L, Xstrata XTA.L and BHP Billiton BLT.L all rose between 1.5 and 3 percent. Copper for delivery in three months MCU3 on the London Metal Exchange ended up at $5,965 a tonne from $5,890 on Monday. It is still down about 6 percent from its two-month high of $6,374 on Feb. 26. In New York, copper for May delivery HGK7 closed 4.30 cents higher at $2.7135 a lb on the New York Mercantile Exchange's COMEX division, settling near the upper end of its $2.66 to $2.7310 trading band. The market is trading slightly more robustly ... with the more positive price action in offshore equity markets presaging a slight reduction in investor risk aversion, JP Morgan said in a research note. However, it is too early to tell whether this reduction is meaningful or just a pause. But the risk aversion that sent money flooding out of markets after the Shanghai stock exchange plunged nearly 9 percent last Tuesday made for edgy metals trading. Caution with regard to risky assets is likely to dominate financial markets for some time yet and the bumpy ride for commodities is not yet over, Barclays Capital said in a note. FUNDAMENTALS Barclays Capital said last week's equity gyrations could be seen as just a healthy correction. There is certainly little reason for markets to begin factoring in any significant weakening in commodity market fundamentals as a result of recent events. Analysts expect falling inventories and trade buying in the seasonally busy second quarter to support prices. The fundamentals haven't deteriorated, said David Thurtell, analyst at BNP Paribas. Copper stocks in LME warehouses have fallen by some 5 percent since the end of January and zinc stocks have dropped by nearly 10 percent in the same period. Zinc MZN3 closed higher at $3,310 from $3,250 on Monday and aluminium MAL3 firmed to $2,690 from $2,680. Traders said a large number of outstanding aluminium contracts at strikes between $2,700 and $3,000 could increase volatility ahead of the option expiry on Wednesday. Tin MSN3 gained to $13,325 against $13,075. A supply deficit, growing interest from investors and a lack of substitutes might propel tin to $20,000 a tonne this year, the International Tin Research Institute said. [ID:nSP216539] Lead MPB3 was firmer at $1,820 from Monday's $1,815. Production of refined lead at Xstrata's Northfleet plant in the UK will return to normal in the first half of 2007, a company official said. [ID:nSP180261] Brazilian miner CVRD VALE5.SARIO.N said it plans to complete its Goro nickel-mining project in New Caledonia by the end of 2008. [ID:nBJB000202] Nickel MNI3 added $1,000 to $40,400.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS - BUY BACK
By Lewa Pardomuan PANGKALPINANG, Indonesia, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Indonesia has approved a tin export permit for state mining firm PT Timah Tbk TINS.JK under new export rules, the company's president director said on Friday. The government has issued stringent rules for tin exports in an effort to curb unchecked shipments of the commodity used in solders, tin plate and chemicals. The new rules, which include verification of the source of tin ore by a government-appointed surveyor and checks on the purity of the ingots, are effective from Friday. The export permit has been issued by the trade ministry and our office in Jakarta has received it, Thobrani Alwi told Reuters. We can start shipment next week. We target to export more than 5,000 tonnes of tin in March. Aang Kanaan Adikusumah, director export of mining products at the trade ministry, confirmed the approval of PT Timah as a registered tin exporter. There are eight companies that have submitted applications to register as tin exporters, but only the application from PT Timah has been approved, Adikusumah told reporters. Consequently, only Timah is allowed to export. But the process is still ongoing, so we may approve export permits for other companies, he said. Tin at the London Metal Exchange MSN3 hit a new record of $13,950 on Thursday before closing at $13,700 at the close due to a tight market and concerns about forthcoming Indonesian supply. KOBA TIN'S EXPORT PERMIT The trade ministry said tin miner PT Koba Tin also has submitted an application to register as a tin exporter and the ministry was reviewing this along with six other companies. Koba Tin has suspended tin shipments following a police investigation of the firm over suspicions of illegally sourcing tin ore and mining outside their mining areas. The police have also arrested three directors of Koba Tin, including its president director, Anuar Sidek. Diah Maulida, director general of foreign trade at the trade ministry, said if Koba Tin met all requirements, it would be approved as a registered tin exporter despite the police probe. But the government may freeze their permits if there is sufficient evidence that Koba Tin has a legal problem, she said. Koba Tin is 75-percent owned by Malaysian Smelting Corp. MSCB.KL and the rest by PT Timah. LESS TIN OUTPUT Dozens of small-scale smelters ceased operations on Indonesia's tin-producing Bangka island last October after a crackdown on illegal smelting and mining that has damaged the environment, raising fears of supply disruption. Indonesia has allowed five smelters to resume operations and may issue permits for another two but it is unclear when they will start because of the new requirements. Alwi said Indonesia was likely produce less tin this year from its average output of around 120,000 tonnes a year before the crackdown on the small smelters. I predict, even if they are given permits, they can only start in the next two months at the earliest. I don't think (Indonesia) production will reach 120,000 tonnes this year, Alwi said. I believe that about 80,000 tonnes of tin will be churned out this year. Indonesia, the world's second largest tin producer after China, produced around 110,000 tonnes of tin in 2006, according to Alwi. Shares of PT Timah, which have quadrupled since the closure of small smelters in Bangka in October, hit a historic high of 11,500 rupiah per share on Thursday. Timah's shares were at 10,900 rupiah per share on Friday afternoon. (Additional reporting by Yayat Supriatna in Jakarta) ((Writing by Fitri - Original Message - From: Jack Cowok To: saham@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TINS - BUY BACK Sepertinya: Kekuatan TINS untuk jatuh lebih jauh sudah tidak mungkin. Bagi yg belum sempat mencicipi KUE TINS, inilah saatnya untuk masuk. BUY and BUY Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know.
[obrolan-bandar] UNVR Break high ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TOLOL JADINYA KALAU KITA NGGAK PEDULI FA
welcome back Mr FS, it's very nice toread your opinion again. - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TOLOL JADINYA KALAU KITA NGGAK PEDULI FA geeezsorry...i cant help commenting on money management...it sounds funny... if you mean margin, yours will be eaten by operational risk...but, if you talk about a day trade, it's too small to be true anyway, i must say that pak OEN looks having very good observation about what is going on in the market... keep up good spying and gaining best and high return pak... cheers allbozz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ga usah dulu deh.. masih banyak yang lebih pintar dari kami Kalo balik modal banyak khan uda balik modal... apalagi Oentoeng... balik duit teruss... Teorinya banyak.kami aja bisa diintip... Kalo bisa bung Oentoeng datang deh... ntar kita ikutan datang... Ok kita ke negeri seberang dulu lagi buka nih pasarnya May God Bless All of Us - Original Message - From: oentoeng_q To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TOLOL JADINYA KALAU KITA NGGAK PEDULI FA Wah...wah wah..Ternyata Bozz sudah Stay Tune di hari pertama habis lebaranMakanya Indeks bisa +7,9 di penutupan sesi 1.Saya sepakat dengan ANDA bahwa di bolak-balik sejauh ini Investor masih lebih unggul dibandingkan Trader.Alasan saya: Trader terlalu sering bermain di TENGAH; karena menunggu konfirmasi (buy/sell). Sedangkan Investor seringnya main di TEPIAN dan yg lebih penting bermain dengan VOLUME.Bisa kebayang dengan "permainan" RANGE lebih luas/LEBAR dan VOLUME yang lebih BESAR.Inilah modal utk masuk jajaran Fortune 500; ya nggak BOZZ??Bicara FA yg penting bagi saya adalah bagaimana mencari tahu:- Pertumbuhan EPS suatu emiten/perusahaan- Bagaimana Emiten kategori RED Chips suatu hari nanti bisa berubah menjadi BLUE Chips. Karena bicara blue chips PASTI sudah banyak yang pinter. - DllSingkatnya pasti semua orang membutuhkan ALASAN; dalam berinvestasi atau sekalian trading.Bicara Money Management ala Bozz; KOCOK2-an itu lho yg bikin nggak kuat!?Apalagi masih ditambahi dengan teori kemauan...Semua milis BAGUS menurut saya; saya sering window shopping nyari INSPIRASI ke tetangga2 sebelah.Khan tidak ditarik bayaran alias gratis; kalau ndak suka ya nggak usah dikunjungi.Pastinya semua bertujuan BAIK Berkaitan dengan Wan Al Trading Room; sekali2 BOZZ ngasih Sesi "Super TA" biar saya daftar jadi peserta.Mau nggak BOZZ?Bagaimanapun saya SALUTE kepada siapa saja yg sudah mendedikasikan dirinya buat perkembangan Pasar Modal.biar ndak MODAR melulu ceritanyaHeheheNgomong se-MAHAL2-nya belajar di pasar modal; kalau sudah jadi BOZZ pasti biayanya sudah BALIK MODAL khan???Regards--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bozz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INI DIA APA KAH ANDA TAHU? SEORANG TRADER BELUM PERNAH MASUK FORTUNE 500 KEBANYAKAN MISKIN DAN INVESTORLAH YANG KAYA RAYA bahkan masuk FOTUNE 500 Pernah ada bertanya kalo FA atau TA atau BA mana yang paling bagus? Kami sarankan adalah Fundamental Analisis... ini melahirkan INVESTOR Kalaupun ada harga turun drastis... ga usah takut khan Fundamentalnya bagus (jangan salah analisa lho) Mengenai Money Management kami menerapkan 1. 30% untuk jangka Panjang 2. 30 % untuk Jangka Menengah 3. 40 % untuk jangka pendek (dana untuk bikin gairah panas atau dingin) PERNAH DI SATU SEKURITAS BERBICARA (nggak perlu disebutkan..) Mereka membuat sesuatu entah itu Website, atau training ataupun Millis... apalahi gratis Ada tujuan. MONEY by SELLING something That's all our purpose isn't it? Apalagi dari Yahoo khan ga pungut bayaran so ngapain pakai banyak aturan ya nggak? Asal jangan keluar dari maksud millist tersebut dibuat... Karena itu kami gabung hanya di Milis SAHAM, OBROLAN BANDAR, BLUECHIPS TRADER termasuk WAN AL dan bukan yang lain Gak banyak aturan lagian ga perlu identitas Dan kadang2 tulisan kami terlambat diposting Maklumlah status kami dibuat moderatehehehe Berbicara mengenai saham sekali lagi... BERIKAN HADIAH PADA DIRI ANDA BILA ANDA UNTUNG BERIKAN HUKUMAN PADA DIRI ANDA BILA ANDA RUGI JANGAN SALAHKAN ORANG LAIN. TANYA DIRI SENDIRI KENAPA SAYA UNTUNG??? KENAPA SAYA RUGI ??? PASAR MODAL BUKAN SEKOLAH MURAH...
[obrolan-bandar] HD - ANTM
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[obrolan-bandar] Pemain saham BNI diperiksa
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Re: Kudeta di Thailand
Setuju sekali, Pak FS. Setahu saya di kalangan fund asing (US) ada istilah index TPI (thailand, philipine, indonesia), yang mana di prospektus mereka disebutkan berapa banyak yang mereka invest ke TPI. Jadi jika T jatuh, maka mereka akan switch keP dan/atau I. Dan tentu saja jsx lebih menarik - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Re: Kudeta di Thailand military coup in thailand..? take the positive side and thought...itCOULD inspire foreign funds to switchto Indonesian equity and assets. there should be a short term negarive reaction...but any fall of index should be good chance to accumulate shares... disclaimer, cheersAria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Betul, Pak Oscar buktinya pengaruh ke global DJ semalem hanya flat (sekalian menunggu hasil sidang FED kali) mudah2an juga ke regional begitu... :) Setahu saya indeks di Thailand selama ini bergerak flat atau side-aways (600 700) Thaksin-nya tidak mau mundur2 dr dulu Aria -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]com [mailto:saham@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Oskar SyahbanaSent: 20 September 2006 7:39To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]comSubject: [saham] Re: Kudeta di Thailand Kalau menurut saya, sepanjang kita invest untuk jangka panjang (1year+ maybe?) seharusnya engga ada masalah. Karena toh kalaupun adakoreksi, itu hanya sentimen pasar semata dan fundamental perusahaan -perusahaan tersebut engga ada yang berubah (karena pasarnya memangbukan di Thailand).Ditambah lagi, kalau melihat dari sentimen rakyatnya, cukup positifkok. I mean, they do hate their previous government afterall.On 9/20/06, Cubit Aja [EMAIL PROTECTED]com.au wrote: Semalam terjadi kudeta di Thailand, Thaksin diperkirakan akan kembali ke Thailand hari ini untuk menghadapi krisis, efeknya ke tlk sudah merah -1.34%. Apakah regional akan merah merata hari ini? Bung Irwan apakah target dan prediksi anda akan diubah sejalan dengan adanya kejadian "luar biasa" ini? cubit-- Oskar Syahbanahttp://permagnus.com/http://pojokbisnis.com/ -- Business from a different point of view Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
