Re: [obrolan-bandar] [tanya] haircut ...
Setau saya haircut itu harga discount u/ beberapa saham. biasanya digunakan oleh securitas u/ trading limit, margin, dan penggadaian saham. misalnya saham A harga 1000, klo haircutnya 25% jadi harganya cuman 750. TD - Original Message - From: Furin Ongko To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:36 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [tanya] haircut ... hmm kalo haircut itu kalo di istilah saham apaan yah ada yg bisa jelasin dikit ? -- Furin Ongko
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Golden Cross Hari ini
Kok saya gak ketemu ya golden crossnya... bisa lebih detail Pak ALX. Thanks - Pesan Asli Dari: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 31 Maret, 2008 02:11:54 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Golden Cross Hari ini --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Tenkai [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: TA cuman interprestasi kejadian yg sudah terjadi, hasil permetaan weekly, daily, intraday berbeda lho mbah.. Bisa liat lagi mbah charting intraday BUMI mbah? Kok rasanya ada yg aneh ya.. Liat aja di http://www.trader20 00.com jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: Embah kadang kadang heran ama TA.. Kemarin jumat ketika BUMI naek banyak, engga golden cross.. Hari ini ketika BUMI turun, kok golden cross... Engga salah tuh pak ALX ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ALX™ alxtrader@ wrote: Kalau di gambar yg saya lihat BUMI Golden Cross hari ini -- Salam ALX™ - - --- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] KERAK TELOR (KARK)
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Selamat buat Bung DE!
Selamat Pak DE, semoga makin tambah cuan dgn kelahiran putrinya he..he.. Salam. TD
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Thank's pak tbumi, Ben Bernanke, Bettina Tan Dean Earwicke, Boy Ocoy
Harusnya gantian dunk... Pak DE kirim foto juga... suit... suit... he...he...he... - Original Message - From: boyz To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Thank's pak tbumi, Ben Bernanke, Bettina Tan Dean Earwicke, Boy Ocoy eit tau-taunya neng felicia milih mr.DE yang jago fundamental sekaligus teknikal. hayoo... pada bubar... besok trading. salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Armando Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gatel juga pengen nimbrung nih he he he... Dr. pagi kemane aje Kang? kok tiba2 muncul? he he he udah malem lageee...? Pak Boyz juga terpaksa musti ngisi Head and Shoulder di Blogspotnya, belum ada tuh. Buat Neng Feliz, yang satu Man of the Year th 2007 yg dianugerahi oleh mbah, jago fundamental Analysis, yg satunya jago Technical Analysis, cucu kesayangannya mbah. Dua-duanya single he he he... AA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Milis OB mulai DIGANGGU lagi !!!!!!!
Pantesan tadi malem begitu buka outlook langsung nongol warning... hehehe... dah mulai gak sehat nih kayaknya... - Original Message - From: kotaro212 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Milis OB mulai DIGANGGU lagi !!! Yup.. confirm terima juga Mbah.. NetSky.Q Worm dari salah satu email.. Yang sering OL sebaiknya antivirus selalu update.. ! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Milis OB mulai DIGANGGU lagi !!! Perang yg seharusnya terjadi di FLOOR BEI mulai keluar dari bursa dan MEREMBES ke milis OB... So, Take Care !!! --
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: besok gimana?
Modah2an ijo Pak... dah abis2an hari ini. Klo besok merah juga... cuman bisa ngiler doang kali he...he... - Original Message - From: barkah syamnova To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: besok gimana? saya yakin besok ijo peluru saya sudah habis hari ini soalnya ?:) Mengingat hari ini merupakan penurunan terbesar sepanjang sejarah BEJ/BEI kemungkinan besar rebound... fundamental kita masih kuat menahan gejolak ekonomi. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:17:58 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: besok gimana? 100 % merah ihsh - 3 atau 4 persen lagi e 50% suspend, 30% merah, 20% ijo. Ayo yg biasa jadi bandar togel, e dibuka dong pasar taruhannya. e --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, hendrik_lwww e hendrik_lwww@ ... wrote: anggap aja besok 50% merah, 50% ijo, kira2 langkah apa yang akan e anda ambil... kalau saya sih 75% optimis besok ijo penurunan sudah cukup tajem soalnya lagian juga, waktu january awal, saya pernah bilang kan kalau e kenaikan index ini ga wajar rawan koreksi... nah, sekarang jua, penurunan e iondex ga wajar, maka sangat RAWAN rebound...he3. ... mau ijo kek, mau merah kek, tetap tenang, yang penting Damai e Sejahtera, ujung - ujungnya orang nyari duit buat dapetin sukacita n damai e kan ato main di BEI hanya sekedar pengganti video games atao BEi jadi e video games financial... e -- Best regards, funcobo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk _ _ _ _ _ _ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs. yahoo.com/ nowyoucan. html -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 8:23 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dispute atas transaksi penjualan saham
Saya juga pernah kejadian seperti ini. Sewaktu harga terus meningkat tapi sales saya blum telp saya juga... akhirnya saya telp lagi, ternyata order saya lupa dimasukkan... gak apa2 sih namanya juga manusia ada khilafnya, dia juga sudah minta maaf. Selama ini sales saya selalu telp saya di hari itu juga setiap transaksi yg telah dilakukan serta mengirimkan softcopy transaksinya pada sore harinya. Seharusnya salesnya Pak Tjahyo Dahono juga demikian. Salam, Taz - Original Message - From: PyRiEL PyRiEL To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dispute atas transaksi penjualan saham klaim aja pak.. setahu saya biasanya mereka ada fasilitas rekam pembicaraan dari customer.. coba aja pak.. yang kayak2 gini harus dituntaskan.. mang kalo bapak rugi dia mau tanggung jawab??? On 1/21/08, Tjahjo Dahono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Senior Aria yang saya hormati, terima kasih atas informasinya, saya akan segera follow up ke pihak sekuritas, semoga hal seperti ini tidak terjadi lagi pada junior trader. Salam cuan, Tjahjo - Original Message From: Aria Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:34:39 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dispute atas transaksi penjualan saham Rekan Tjahjo Yth, Harga penutupan INCO, 17 Januari 2008 di 9800, maka semua transaksi jual di bawahnya (termasuk 9550) pasti sudah done. Jika belum terjual artinya sekuritas tsb tidak melakukan sell offer saat diberikan instruksi. Perlu diminta penjelasan secara logika, mengapa belum terjual. Sapa tau ada aturan baru yg saya juga tidak tahu. Salam, Ace -Original Message- From: Tjahjo Dahono [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:15 PM To: bandar bandar Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dispute atas transaksi penjualan saham Selamat sore para Senior, saya newbie mau tanya mengenai transaksi penjualan saham melalui sekuritas sebagai berikut: Pada tanggal 17 Januari 2008 (sebelum lunch), saya pasang untuk jual saham inco diharga Rp 9.550, harga penutupan inco pada tanggal tersebut Rp 9.800. Pertanyaannya adalah apakah saham yang saya jual tersebut sudah laku terjual atau belum pada tanggal tersebut ? Karena menurut pihak sekuritas, saham saya belum terjual pada tanggal tersebut, mohon penjelasannya. Terima kasih atas penjelasannya. Salam cuan Tjahjo Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 6:37 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga aman utk beli ANTM
Ha...ha...ha... Denger2 sih ANTM mo di akuisisi ama POLY, makanya harganya diturunin dulu ke 50 biar samaan... - Original Message - From: Bandar Junior To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Harga aman utk beli ANTM ANTM lg gonjang ganjing, sebaiknya jangan masuk dulu deh... kalau mau aman, masuk tunggu di harga 50 aja, di jamin ga bakal turun lagi -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --
Re: Saham FENI RE: [obrolan-bandar] Para ANTM mania (analisa tukang baso)
Sekedar info, Kebetulan kemarin ketemu temen lama di mall yg kerja di ANTM: - Feni 3 saat ini sudah jalan tapi belum berjalan 100% (jadi tidak bermasalah). - ANTM lagi dalam taraf penjajakan untuk akusisi nusamba (jadi belum melakukan akusisi). - ANTM juga melakukan pengolahan slime dari PT Smelter (sudah dilakukan). - Nikel andalan ANTM saat ini yg di Sulawesi. Begitu yg saya denger waktu dia ngomong sambil manggut2 belagak ngerti. - Original Message - From: Marcello Djunaidy To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Saham FENI RE: [obrolan-bandar] Para ANTM mania (analisa tukang baso) tergantung time frame... jangka pendek : FENI jangka panjang : ANTM dalam kurun waktu 2000 sampai skrg,setelah lewat macam2 hambatan, apakah harga ANTM lebih murah sekarang? perlu diingat aja, masalah pasti ada. orang mati aja masih bisa punya masalah (konsep surga-neraka). cuma namanya manusia,pasti bisa punya jalan keluar. menurut saya : feni rusak,antm turun : beli. feni pasti dibenerin kan? antm mau bisnis berkembang kan? kalo dah dibenerin : jangan jual...simpan aja sampe ada perang,resesi berat atau antm positif mau tutup toko... baru BEAR MODE : ON MD On 1/19/08, Ricky Wakiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mo nanya, Anda beli saham ANTM atau beli saham FENI? Kalo beli saham FENI, ya jelas kudu cepet-cepet cut loss kalo FENI III bermasalah. RW From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baso TAHU Sent: 19 Januari 2008 12:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Para ANTM mania (analisa tukang baso) Halo kenalkan saya anggota baru nih! Saya ada ANTM modal 4000 apa harus Cut Loss? Soalnya menurut info inteligen di YM Conference orang2 bursa saya dengar FENI III ada masalah lagi? Ntar deh gerobak baso saya mau maen2 ke TB SIMATUPANG siapa tau dapat insider! hi hi --- tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tbumi%40yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nggak masalah pak, saya juga nggak ada maksud apa2 alias no hard feeling. Kan seru ada pro vs. con...kapan2 boleh di-sharing ke kita2 mengenai riset anda. Thanks! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , mozart Adhianto mozz_add@ wrote: Malam pak, kebetulan saya bukan trader, saya hanya coba invest kecil-kecilan saja pada saham UNSP (bukan fanatik pula), dan saya senang membaca OB ini. yang sedang saya hitung bukan masalah TA/FA atau sejenisnya, tetapi saya lagi membuat riset iseng-iseng mengenai presentase forecast anggota OB dengan apa yang terjadi di pasar.,selama 3 bulan saya ikuti hasilnya hampir 40% benar,60% sisanya masih dipertanyakan. Bukannya sinis pak, tetapi kalau anggota OB lebih dapat meningkatkan kualitasnya mungkin akan lebih baik..sampai saat ini saya juga telah mengantongi 3 nama posting terbaik, dan saya yakin sekali orang tersebut sangat-sangat mendalami dunia saham. baik pak mohon maaf kalau ada salah dalam penyampaian. Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Nggak perlu sinis kayak gitu pak...setiap org BEBAS utk menentukan mau beli apa, kalo tidak setuju ya ngapain juga ikut kayak beo? Mungkin pak Mozz ikut2-an beli Antm krn dipanas2-in terus kejedut, akhirnya dendam kesumat dgn Antm? hehehe... kasiandehlu.com --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , mozz_add mozz_add@ wrote: Apa kabar para Antam mania? apa masih fanatik sama yang namanya ANTM? Next time kalau posting matengin dulu deh jadi bunyi yang keluar enak, sekarang malah dari Antm mania berubah jadi fans nya minning lain, udah lupa sama yang di ucapin minggu-minggu yang lalu...wah repot kalau mencla-mencle begini deh...hehehehe, lucunya lagi hari ini sudah mulai sedikit yang bicara TA, FA, apalah...dan pada akhirnya cara bertradingnya juga cuma pakai teknik ala pasar gembrong.,tetapi bagus lah yang penting yakin ya...www.ngakakabis.com SIP : TBUMI Semestinya ANTM tak ada masalah. Penurunan harganya karena banyak invetor yg tak sabar menunggu saja. Diakui investor ANTM banyak juga yg pemain jangka pendek, lain dgn saham INCO yg pemainnya banyak yg jangka panjang. Sehingga harga INCO penurunannya tdk banyak sekali. Kami optimis selalu, ANTM pasti akan rebound kembali. - Be a
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Again? Re: -3% for today?
We want more...we want more... hihihihihihihi... ...to be fearful when others are greedy to be greedy only when others are fearful - WB - Original Message - From: Rei To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Again? Re: -3% for today? Untuk hari ini pak...minggu depan? Mungkin sdh berakhir kalo index sdh di bawah 2500 atau 2550 kali yah? Sesepuh2 saja masih nunggu..Pak DE/Eka bilang bulan depan, Pak Hmin masih 98% cash, Mbah masih belum ada komando apa2...nah lho :-) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HSI, N225 dan regional udah rebound, kalu 5% susah lah tdi pg dikasih 4% tuch diskonnya On Jan 18, 2008 10:45 AM, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you want more? So greedy lol *EL* On Jan 18, 2008 8:35 AM, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another 5% aja lagi biar 2000nya cepat hehehhe On 1/18/08, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] orkaybgt%40gmail.com wrote: Let's see what will happen today, shall we? EL On Jan 16, 2008 6:39 AM, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]orkaybgt% 40gmail.com wrote: Today IHSG can get down to -3%. What a mess. 2400 in 3 days? -15% in 2 weeks? LOL why not.. seems lots haven't sell their portos.. Shut up, Elaine, you're talking bullshit I agree with Elaine, bring it ON Some wants IHSG to go bullish all the time. Some wants to have at cheapest price possible. There're always two sides of the story. Oh, this'd be the last day for CPO and other plantation stocks glory. TAKE PROFIT, that if you have any :) Just like Oentoeng said, there will be another entry point. EL -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] UTK YG BELUM MASUK!
Bener Pak, mumpung lagi obral besar, kapan lagi bisa dpt barang murah. klo besok masih turun juga ya beli lagi hihihihihihi.. - Original Message - From: Dick Q To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] UTK YG BELUM MASUK! yup, saya juga sdh masuk 100%. Sebagian besar stock saat ini sdh discount 10% Kalau pun IHSG turun lebih dalem, gak akan loss banyak dari posisi saat ini. Salam, Dick Q - Original Message - From: abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] UTK YG BELUM MASUK! Hahaha Jadi lega, ada temen yang sama2 nekad =)) On 1/18/08, frombatamwithcuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo saya mah banyak nekatnya pak. Lagi merah malah belanja, sampai mentok. Cuman bertahap emang, dana-dana nganggur langsung masukin saham. Termasuk yang dicelengan ayam. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Yg udah cuan hari ini angkat tangan!!!!
si MAPI lagi sexy tuh he...he... - Original Message - From: pengumpul wang To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Yg udah cuan hari ini angkat tangan mr. exindo, cuan pake saham apa neh? On 1/16/08, Bill Jone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EL, kalo baca tulisannya dia jadi begidik...hihihihihihihihihih another sign plss, happy safe trading, dah impas aja cuan untuk minggu ini. 2008/1/16, exindo_trade [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Saya...! Biar si EL ngerti kalo kita pada pinter-pinter hehehehe -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.4/1226 - Release Date: 1/15/2008 6:19 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG down -8.4% (3 days) tapi USDIDR anteng
Mbah, mau tanya dapetin data OUTFLOW/INFLOW dimana ya? Apa di web BEI ada? Trima Kasih, Taz - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG down -8.4% (3 days) tapi USDIDR anteng Jika IHSG turun tentunya ada OUTFLOW, tapi dalam keadaan market SUPER JELEK seperti HARI INI yg terjadi sebenarnya ENGGA GEDE karena market cenderung engga mau belanja saat market menyeramkan gini. Outflow yg GEDE sebenarnya terjadi saat MARKET lagi bullish, dalam dua bulan terakhir outflow ini terjadi. Jadi market CRASH bukan karena harga kedelai TAPI karena memang Outflow sudah TERJADI. Secara bandarmologi, KOREKSI adalah untuk MENGEMPESKAN market, jika market sudah KEMPES dan jika IHSG valuasinya masih ATTRAKTIF maka INFLOW akan terjadi lagi. Cyclenya: - INFLOW-BULLISH-OUTFLOW/HARVEST-KOREKSI/KEMPESIN-INFLOW lagi... - Gitulah cara kerja PETERNAKAN DUIT dibursa.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO habis SS mau ke mana
Tapat banget Pak TBUMI... apa ada kemungkinan turun lagi ? lagi_ngarepin.com - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO habis SS mau ke mana --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: utk jangka pendek-menengah mending INCO ya sekarang sedang diguyur. Guyur terus ya sampai dalm uaaahhh aahh! tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED], abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote: naik? turun? sideways? SIP : TBUMI Ada kemungkinan besar INCO masih bisa turun dibawah Rp. 1. Siapa tahu nanti bisa ke Rp. 9300. sip : tbumi Dugaan kami benar, INCO sdh tembus 9300 hari ini. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.4/1226 - Release Date: 1/15/2008 6:19 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM
He... he... Pak TBUMI, menurut Bapak saat ini lebih tepat masuk mana, INCO, ANTM apa BUMI. saya lagi bingung milih yg mana... maklum modal saya sedikit Trima kasih - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:13 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mas Anto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau semakin turun apa lagi yang digadaikan? SIP : TBUMI Jika celana makin turun maka tak pakai celana dalam lagi. Tentu akan diserbu oleh wanita cantik nanti. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.4/1226 - Release Date: 1/15/2008 6:19 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM
Belum semua Pak, masih banyak yg kosong tuh gerbongnya INCO. he...he... - Original Message - From: Cumi Goreng Tepung To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM Haha, penumpang kereta ANTM dah kabur pindah ke INCO yang baru nambah gerbong. On Jan 15, 2008 9:38 AM, ALX™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Siapa mau naik kereta ANTM Kita udah di stasiun... :-) -- Salam ALX™ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date: 1/12/2008 2:04 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT memble (Tong kosong juga tuch indoprimier!)
Sehabis EL posting semua bermasalah... market langsung turun lagi. Hebat emang EL salute. - Original Message - From: Ian Mahendra To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT memble (Tong kosong juga tuch indoprimier!) e-bursa juga ngaco Pak. Biasanya kalau koneksi lagi kacau gini something will happen. STI di Yahoo juga ngaco. Coba cermati dan tetap waspada. IMS. - Original Message From: ahau doank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 14 January 2008 2:13:43 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT memble (Tong kosong juga tuch indoprimier!) sama nich... IPOT tong kosong nyaring bunyinya! dulu katanya kalo udah rame gak usah khawatir,, koneksi gak akan putus bla bla bla... skrg udah rame, jadi suka hang sendiri kayak etrading. di telp ke ipot centre juga gak pernah nyambung... sibuk terus C spasi D alias Cape Dech! kesimpulannya: IPOT yg dulunya sekelas mercedes benz, skrg turun kelas jadi avanza seperti etrading. happy cuan :P bobby gosal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ada yg make IPOT ?? kok tiba2 putus?? persis di saat ELAINE posting di bwh ini.. Dear fellow traders, This time I am selling, only 15% left, please buy them. Investors please ignore. There, no F word :) I even use pink color. EL kebetulan kali yee... Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -- Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date: 1/12/2008 2:04 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...
Kayaknya datanya banyak yg salah Pak DE, tertukar antara close highnya. Maaf klo mungkin saya yg salah liat. long term bullish, short term bearish... setuju aja. lagi ngarepin barang murah sih hehehehe... - Original Message - From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient... Penggemar TA silahkan komentar. (sumber: Bloomberg) Long term bullish, short term... I dunno. Koreksi dulu? Note: USD 1 = 3.2665 ringgit Regards, DE On Jan 9, 2008 4:24 PM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Analyst Mode On- I Myself personally dont think the plantation were overvalued yet... Fully Valued Yes but Overvalued is yet to reach... -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...
Pak DE, saya cuman liat ada yg aneh di candlesticknya. Contohnya spt ini: Biasanya sih tertukar antara close highnya. Selama ini saya download data utk metasock dari BEI juga sering ngalami hal ini, biasanya yg tertukar close dgn high dan open dgn low price. Klo di metastock bisa di edit langsung... gak tau klo di bloomberg. Mungkin rekan2 OB yg download data dr BEI juga sering ngalamin hal yg sama, atau cuman saya saja yg ngalami hal ini. Thanks, Taz - Original Message - From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient... Wah, bloombergnya salah kah? Kalau gitu mohon di share gambar yang benar, kalau ada.. Regards, DE On Jan 10, 2008 2:02 AM, Tazmania Devil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kayaknya datanya banyak yg salah Pak DE, tertukar antara close highnya. Maaf klo mungkin saya yg salah liat. long term bullish, short term bearish... setuju aja. lagi ngarepin barang murah sih hehehehe... -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM clip_image001.jpg
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Trading ! Be an Investor.
Hiks..hihihihi.. c7 banget - Original Message - From: arnold To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Trading ! Be an Investor. jika sudah punya internet connection itu namanya sudah diberikan jalan untuk cuan oleh YMK.. jika belum cuan.. maka berusahalah lebih baik lagi.. tapi yang penting, bersyukurlah walaupun belum cuan, karena probabilitasnya sudah lebih tinggi daripada yang belum punya internet connection salam cuan mrA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, PyRiEL PyRiEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: temans yang baik.. ampe kapanpun gak akan kelar deh ni diskusi.. saya mah gak pake teorinya manusia.. rejeki di tangan Tuhan.. dah selesai deh.. mau investor keq kalo tuhan bilang enggak yah enggak.. mau trader keq kalo tuhan bilang iya yah bakal kaya! segala sesuatu indah pada waktunya kan? yang penting, usaha dan selalu lakukan yang terbaik.. cepet atau lambat, cuan pasti datang.. masalah besar kecil, tergantung yang di atas.. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM 0034.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] tanya saham FREN
Kok kayaknya gorengan semua ya... gak ada yg rebusan he..he.. Trima kasih Pak. - Original Message - From: Color Of Universe To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] tanya saham FREN BMTR BHIT IATA MNCN FREN Apa lagi yah? On 1/6/08, Tazmania Devil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trima kasih banyak Pak LL atas penjelasannya. Mohon informasi group Bhakti apa saja selain FREN? Trims, Taz - Original Message - From: Landlord To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] tanya saham FREN Problem with FREN maybe not be its TA at this time, but its FA .. the company is not performing well, growth is not good, no exciting corp action. So, its previous low may not be relevant karena bisa aja turun lebih dalam lagi. Sebenarnya, dalam pemantauan saya, grup Bhakti memang is not an attractive group for equity market investment choice. CMIIW. -- - What is the color of your universe? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Regional rontok
Mau ikut2an hehehe... sebenarnya tools apapun bisa digunakan, permasalahannya tinggal siapa yg menggunakan. Kalo yg menggunakan itu expertnya analisanya pasti lebih dalam drpd yg bukan. Metodenya si andrew ini tingkat kebenarannya cuman 60% - 80% doang kok (kayaknya emang gak ada ya yg 100% he...). Dan emang bener sih gak ada holy grail di market. seperti katanya si greg fisher. Tapi saya tetap dukung 100% penelitiannya Mbah (carmuk dikit biar gak di banned hehehehe ) becanda ya Mbah... bener saya dukung 100%. Sharing ilmunya ya Mbah klo dah ketemu. Tulisannya si andrew langsung yg Mbah maksud mungkin ada di sini: www.trading-naked.com/alan_andrews_course_1.htm Dan ini cuplikannya tulisannya Greg Fisher Dr. Alan Andrews developed a technical study of futures and stock prices called the Median Line Study and taught the method to traders in his Action/Reaction Course in the 1960's and 1970's. Andrews so named his course to honor the work of Roger Babson, who Andrews credited with first applying Newton's third law, For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, to the financial markets. Andrews' method was formed around the Median Line - a line drawn on a price chart after three alternative pivots in price had formed. The line is drawn from the first pivot through the midpoint of the next two pivots, and extended. Andrews observed certain price behavior as price approached the line - and especially that price tended to change trend at or near the line. Andrews also determined there was a high probability price returned to this line after the third pivot, and considered the Median Line a sort of price magnet. The Median Line can serve as a leading indicator of potential price direction. It has somewhat of a predictive nature. Many of today's indicators based on complicated mathematics are lagging indicators. They respond to price action after the fact. Andrews wrote in his original course, the Median Line would: .enable the user to be one of the few who can tell where the prices are headed, and the place they will reach about 80% of the time, and when approximately that place will be reached. ~ Dr. Alan Andrews, Action-Reaction Course Andrews' actively traded in the 1920's and reportedly made a large sum of money. He later taught his method in the 1960's and 1970's. Does the method still apply today? If so, what would that say about the markets? I asked that very question when I was first exposed to Andrews' work. I have found that the Median Line method does indeed still have application in today's markets under CERTAIN conditions. Dr. Andrews alluded to this in his original course: When we speak of any scientific law, we mean a statement that a relationship has been observed among certain given conditions. We mean if these conditions now, then those conditions follow, and can be expressed mathematically. We have order through which we can know the outcome from these conditions. We can therefore take advantage of this knowledge, and thereby progress and profit. ~ Dr. Alan Andrews, Action-Reaction Course I also have found that those conditions can only really be determined by drawing the lines over and over. Does the method apply equally to all markets? What about all time frames? Most of Andrews' original work was on weekly and daily charts. Does the method apply to the intra-day charts available today? What are the best pivots from which to draw the Median Line? When Andrews mentioned price returned to the Median Line about 80% of the time in his original course, to what was he referring? Daily charts? Drawn from what pivots? Every market? We can only guess. Perhaps one of the most important conditions is that of each trader's perception of price action and the experience of the trader. Experience can aid in anticipating the if price does this - then I can expect that scenario. If you are expecting the Median Line to be the holy grail of trading, you may be disappointed. However, if you are willing to put some time into understanding the method, it may very well appeal to you and aid in your trading. As with any method of technical analysis, the Median Line method is merely a tool and must be used for what the tool is intended. The last time I tried to use a screwdriver to hammer a nail there were disastrous results! Luckily a trip to the emergency room was not required, but a few choice words were heard throughout the neighborhood. The effectiveness of any tool is related to the experience of the user of the tool. Anyone expecting to pick up a golf club and immediately be ready for the pro tour is likely in for a surprise. As with trading. Technical trading is as much art as science. I encourage any trader or student of the markets to fully test out the method of their choosing before putting money on the table whether it be the Median Line method or any other. It may save a trip to the emergency room or at least save face with
Re: [obrolan-bandar] tanya saham FREN
Sudah di titik terendah sih selama historinya, RSInya mendukung tapi Stochasticnya lagi gak mendukung. Berdoa ajah ada bandar yg baik hati mau naikin CMIIW ya... maklum masih ayam sayur hehehehehe. Rgds, Taz - Original Message - From: veni To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] tanya saham FREN time to collect c kayanya...kalo terbangnya entah kapan...he..he...sabar --- pinxyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kira-kira kapan ya saham FREN naek, kok makin dibeli makin turun sih ? ada yang punya ide kira-kira bakalan turun sampe berapa ? regards, benny ~~~ Situs Dunia Investasi Indonesia http://www.saham.info __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM 0011.gif0013.gifclip_image002.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] tanya saham FREN
Trima kasih banyak Pak LL atas penjelasannya. Mohon informasi group Bhakti apa saja selain FREN? Trims, Taz - Original Message - From: Landlord To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] tanya saham FREN Problem with FREN maybe not be its TA at this time, but its FA .. the company is not performing well, growth is not good, no exciting corp action. So, its previous low may not be relevant karena bisa aja turun lebih dalam lagi. Sebenarnya, dalam pemantauan saya, grup Bhakti memang is not an attractive group for equity market investment choice. CMIIW.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Jumlah Saham
kalo saya sih liat outstanding share di lapkeu masing2 emiten Pak. kalo gak salah di Fact Booknya BEI atau di monthly statisticnya juga ada. mungkin para OB yg lain ada yg tau gimana bisa liat semuanya secara langsung, misalnya dari website ato yg lain. Rgds. - Original Message - From: abdulrahim abdulrahim To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:45 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Jumlah Saham Alo alo... any info di mana bisa liat jumlah saham? Thanks -- Forwarded message -- From: abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 5, 2008 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Produsen terbesar batubara Indonesia To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cari info jumlah saham2 emiten2 yang ada di BEI di mana ya? On Jan 4, 2008 11:32 AM, laven_28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lihat JUMLAH sahamnya juga bung! Jangan hanya HARGA sahamnya Jumlah saham BUMI 19,4 Milyar Jumlah saham PTBA 2,3 Milyar Jumlah saham ITMG cuma 1,1 Milyar.. Klo dibandingkan jumlah sahamnya juga si BUMI udah MAHAL BANGET.. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] It's me again..
Iya nich si TBLA cemen... nyalinya kecil, masih ABG sich... gw tinggalin dulu dech... nemenin yg nyalinya gede ajah he... he... - Original Message - From: PyRiEL PyRiEL To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] It's me again.. tbla beraninya di kolam cetek neeh.. yang laen dah berenang di laut noh.. malu2 in dah On 1/4/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enak nih kalau para wanita nya jago berenang hehehehe.c'mon ladies, show me what you got.. the smart, the sexy, the aggressive... help us through the storm.. Ok serious now,.. mudahan kemarin banyak yang ngumpulin plantation alias perkebunan ya. Makin edan aja tuh... tapi hati-hati kalau harga minyak turun... Beware of gaps. Regards, DE On Jan 4, 2008 12:35 AM, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah loh, Embah dan para pendekar OB kok pada kompak sama Elaine nih jadinya? Tinggal satu lagi yang masih saya tunggu komentarnya, Mr. Oentoeng! Apakah tiba saatnya DE melawan arus... Tapi napas harus kuat karena ini pendekar sakti semua... jadi kalau DE kelelep mohon para wanita kasih saya CPR..hehe.. Regards, DE -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: 1/3/2008 3:52 PM 0013.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pintar Atau Sok Pintar ??
Hiks... hihihihihihi. buah semangka buah tomat... au ah gelap. liburan brooo.. smile - Original Message - From: arnold To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pintar Atau Sok Pintar ?? tebakan yang asik di hari yang mendung.. jadi jawabannya sok pintar dong.. hehe :) salam mrA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andrei Achrat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maaf kalo tulisan saya mungkin agak keras dan ada yang tersinggung dengan tulisan saya ini. Tapi ini murni apa yg saya rasakan selama saya -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: 1/3/2008 3:52 PM 0013.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI
Ya..ya..ya.., saya juga suka abg hiks...hiks... musti lama ngajarinnya... maklum abg - Original Message - From: PyRiEL PyRiEL To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI enakan ma ABG donk pak, gak usah pake serius.. hihihihi ayo donk TBLA sayang.. On 1/3/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Berhubung tadi ada pesta CPO, berikut saya re-post sifat saham-saham cpo menurut versi saya, mungkin ada yang merasakan hal yang sama dgn saya, hehe.. Gak penting sih.. tapi SMAR walaupun punya suami tapi seneng ML. Sori, kalau lagi bearish gini saya agak males posting yang serius-serius Regards, DE -- Forwarded message -- From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 3, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com AALI itu berbakat dan cerdas, serta punya masa depan yang gemilang UNSP cantik seperti supermodel, tapi rada somse dan high maintenance cost LSIP juga manis tapi lebih ramah dan murah senyum TBLA masih terlalu ABG dan belum bisa diajak serius SGRO agak pendiam namun sangat menggoda dan agresif SMAR high class tapi tidak suka dugem dan sudah punya suami Regards, DE -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM 0029.gif0013.gif
[obrolan-bandar] TP dr berbagai sumber to Pak ALX
Pak ALX, boleh dunk kirimin TPnya si FREN TOTL dr berbagai sumber klo ada. Thanks
Re: [obrolan-bandar] NIUBI-- Haircut
Ada yg tau cara ngitung haircut ? Apa masing2 institusi menghitungnya dengan cara yg sama ? - Original Message - From: Henry Liem To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] NIUBI-- Haircut CMIIW : Credit Limit berdasarkan kebijakan masing2 sekuritas dan biasanya persentasenya ditentukan berdasarkan seberapa besar volatile saham tsb. On Jan 1, 2008 7:51 PM, victor tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: benar saya juga mengalami hal yg sama, mohon penjelsan bagi yg mengetahui hal ini. thanks Victor - Original Message From: Irfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 9:58:11 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] NIUBI-- Haircut Dear Bapak/Ibu, Saya newbi dalam dunia saham. Ada beberapa istilah yang masih asing bagi saya. Akhir tahun kemarin, saya mendapatkan Credit Limit dari Securitas (diluar deposit) saya (KK) sebesar 30 juta. Nilai itu semua adalah murni margin dari mereka karena 100% nilai invest saya sudah dibelikan ke beberapa saham. Pagi ini saya cek di account saya (POEMS), ternyata Credit Limit saya berkurang 50% menjadi Rp.15juta. Memang uang saya tidak berkurang karena sudah menjadi saham. Tapi kan kalau sewaktu-waktu saya butuh beli saham sebelum transfer ke mereka, saya bisa menggunakan credit ini terlebih dahulu. Saya sudah telp ke KK dan katanya, nilai itu terjadi karena pemotongan nilai saham (Hair Cut) oleh BEI. Mereka menjelaskan bahwa jika saya invest 100 juta ke ANTM atau saya invest 100 juta ke BNII, maka nilai Credit Limit saya akan berbeda. Katanya lagi, setiap saham memiliki Hair cut yang berbeda dari BEI. Saya sudah googling tentang ini dan nyari di situs BEI tentang nilai-nilai hair cut masinng-masing saham, tetapi tidak ketemu. Mungkin ada yang punya info tentang nilai hair cut ini? dan Mohon pencerahannya tentang saham-saham hair cut oleh BEI. Terima kasih sebelumnya, Irfan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bahana Focus - Tunas Baru Lampung: No Upturn Yet; Perhaps Next Year
Iya... saya rasa banyak yg pingin tau juga, termasuk saya. please dunk di milis aja. - Original Message - From: A Wish To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bahana Focus - Tunas Baru Lampung: No Upturn Yet; Perhaps Next Year duh2.. jangan japri2an dong. On 12/30/07, Kalyana Mitta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coba japri Pak Eka, beliau termasuk yang paling detail mengikuti perkembangan FA dari sisi FA. Maybe worth... Forever Apprentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wah wah, very interesting nih. Thanks for sharing this. IMHO TBLA is one of the wild cards utk thn 2008. Cuma belom sempet liat profil portfolio TM TBM secara detail. - Original Message From: Resky Aindhaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:03:03 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Bahana Focus - Tunas Baru Lampung: No Upturn Yet; Perhaps Next Year BAHANA FOCUS EQUITY FIXED INCOME RESEARCH Tunas Baru Lampung Rp600; increase target price to Rp575 - downgraded to Reduce No Upturn Yet; Perhaps Next Year By Achmad Syafriel * Lower palm oil production continues * PKO sales contribution increased significantly this year * Cost increases still the main concern * Sales upgraded by 3% due to higher CPO price estimates * More expensive vs. other plantation counters * Increase TP to Rp575/share, downgraded to Reduce Therefore, using DCF valuation with WACC of 14.8% and higher CPO price estimates, the company is valued at Rp578/share. From this value, we derive our target price of Rp575/share with 37% estimated earnings growth. This target price provides a 4.2% downside potential from the current price. Reduce. DISCLAIMER This email may contain privileged and/or confidential Information intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the person addressed, you may not use any part of it, forward, disclose, copy or deliver this to anyone else. If you receive this email by mistake, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender by return email. Internet communications can not be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus free, the sender does not accept any liability for error or omissions. The information contained in this email and/or report is not be taken as any recommendation made by PT. Bahana Securities or any other person to enter into any agreement and/or take position with regard to any investment mentioned in this document. This email and/or report is prepared in general circulation. It does not have any intention to the specific person who may receive this email and/or report. In considering any investments you should make your own independent assessment and seek your own professional financial and legal advice. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.10/1160 - Release Date: 11/29/2007 8:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.10/1160 - Release Date: 11/29/2007 8:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.12/1203 - Release Date: 12/30/2007 11:27 AM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal
He..he.. bener Pak. yg pegang BUMI kira2 sebulan lalu di 5450 trus turun sampe 3750... pasti stres juga ya. tapi stresnya ilang begitu terbang ke 6400 hanya dalam waktu 7 hari bursa. - Original Message - From: Rei To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:36 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal PAK, yg megang Antm di 3rb-an waktu turun ke 1800-an apa KAGAK stres? Liat kan skrg brp. Main saham kuncinya sabar, tenang disiplin, kalo gak bisa berabe. --- In obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lho kalo nilainya turun banyak begini.apa kagak stress... SMILE kalo modal 3000-an...kalo 5150 mana bisa SMILE -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 12/20/2007 2:14 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal
Kalo katanya WB, lebih baik invest di satu keranjang dgn profit maksimum dari pada di banyak keranjang. cuman masalahnya gimana ya mastiin kalo satu keranjang itu bisa menghasilkan profit yg maksimum. - Original Message - From: mr_w4w To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal Pak Pemain, anda berani banget taruh 70% asset dalam satu stock. He he kalau saya maksimal 25% lah .. diversifikasi dikit he3x Menaruh semua telor dalam satu keranjang berbahya lho ... Tetapi menaruhnya dalam terlalu banyak keranjang juga bikin pusing ... He3x Kalo menurut hemat saya, buat investor kecil individu, cukup 4-6 keranjang saja .. tapi di-awasi terus ... dan selalu siapkan keranjang cadangan untuk mengganti kalau ada keranjang inti yang mulai di goyang-goyang bandar he3x 4-6 stock kalau dibagi rata-kan kira2 antara 15-25% tiap stock. Just My 2 Cents, MR_W4W --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lho kalo nilainya turun banyak begini.apa kagak stress... SMILE kalo modal 3000-an...kalo 5150 mana bisa SMILE mending pegang BUMI yg waktu itu 6000-an skr masih bertahan di 5700...kan turun cuma dikit dibanding ANTM yg turunnya kebablasan.. - Original Message - From: Rei To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal Kalo anda invest 70% di Antm, mestinya gak stress berat. SMILE!!! Lagipula invest toh, bukan trade... Kalo index minus, atau resesi, semua saham juga akan jelek so apa bedanya megang antm? Jadi, tenang saja lah. Saham naik turun itu biasa. Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak TBUMI...gimana prediksi anda tentang ANTM tahun depan.. banyak kan berita negatif ttg ANTMmulai dari kondisi keuangan 2008 di ANTM TIDAK sebaik 2007.dll..ANTM akan bermain di kisaran berapa kah ? apakah akan kembali ke kisaran 3000-an ?? wah yg invest di 5150 gimana yah ? gw termasuk salah satu korban nih..70 % porto di ANTM...skr lagi stress berat.ditambah berita2 miring mengenai IHSG yg akan minusotomatis secara logika ANTM juga ikutan minus..hiks hiks hiks -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 12/20/2007 2:14 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal
Mungkin beli saham kayak beli tanah kale ya... he...he... Sory klo asumsinya agak kamse... kaya Pak Haji juragan tanah aje ye... he...he... waktu mau beli tanah kan liat prospeknya dulu... hampir sama kaya beli saham liat future valuenya. Ngak cuman liat lap keu aja, tapi musti liat ada corporate action gak di masa mendatang. karena lap keu kan cuman past value sebagai barometer di masa lalu. buat liat nilai kedepannya ya harus ada corporate action dulu. pusing. ujung2nya berdoa agar bandar mau gerakin he...he..he... - Original Message - From: Pemain Mini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal iya kalo gak baca lap keubisa2 kayak ADES tuh... walaupun yg punya Coca Cola dan Nestle..nama besar udah dipegang tuh... tapi yg ada malah RUGIkarena pabrik pada tutup..utang bejibun... boleh yang pegang Coca Colatapi kalo produk gak laku ? kualitas air nya kyk air kolam ikan yg tahunan gak dibersihin ? yang ada Nestle nusuk dari belakang dengan bikin air merk Nestle gimana jugagak tau ya, apakah itu punya ADESCMIIW... denger2 malah WB pernah ketipu invest di ADES...bener ga sih ? jangan2 WB boonganwarung bufet kali... kikikikiki. - Original Message - From: arnold To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa DE: Romantika Pasar Modal harus hobby baca Lapkeu pak .. heheheh :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tazmania Devil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalo katanya WB, lebih baik invest di satu keranjang dgn profit maksimum dari pada di banyak keranjang. cuman masalahnya gimana ya mastiin kalo satu keranjang itu bisa menghasilkan profit yg maksimum. - Original -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1191 - Release Date: 12/20/2007 2:14 PM 0056.gif0002.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM: A Fibonacci Analysis
Para Suhu... berarti ANTM besok reboundnya... horeee. rebound rebound... rebound rebound... rebound rebound... - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM: A Fibonacci Analysis --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mas Anto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biar STRONG dikasih Kuku Bima saja kali ya Mbah? biar Roso-roso, he...he... Btw, bagaimana kalau bertahap saja masuknya, anggap saja alokasi untuk ANTM Rp.X, skenario terburuk akan jatuh ke FR 61,8% itu total alokasi mencapai Rp. X. Berarti buat yang belum masuk, bisa masuk 50% dulu, sisanya buat jaga-jaga kalau turun ke FR 50% (25%)dan FR 61,8% (25%), itu kalau kita risk taker, kalau mau moderat ya..tinggal dibalik saja. Toh in the long term, akan naik juga. Kalau yang sudah masuk dan mau nambah, mungkin lebih baik tunggu dulu kali ya? Bagaimana Mbah atau senior-senior yang lain? Mohon pencerahan. On 12/18/07, OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tapi jika fundamental ANTM tidak BAGUS maka ANTM akan mentest FR 50% atau 61,8%. Nah sekarang anda PIKIR: - Apakah ANTM is a STRONG STOCK atau BUKAN ? Regards, OB Help desk SIP : TBUMI Hingga saat ini masih belum ada ilmu yg bisa hitung berapa dalam jatuhnya suatu saham yg berfundamental kuat. Naik atau turunnya ANTM dll tergantung sama pertumbuhan ekonomi global saja. Bila ilmu tsb ternyata akurat hitungannya, tentu penemu ilmu tsb akan jadi org terkaya didunia dan akan dipatentkan dahulu ilmu tsb. Siapa yg mau beli ANTM di harga Rp. 5000 dulu, bila pembelinya tahu ANTM bisa kembali ke Rp. 4050 karena market regional lagi merah terus. saham yg -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM 0011.gif
[obrolan-bandar] Upgrade ENRG TP 1800 ML
More trading upside, PO raised to Rp1,800 Although the stock has appreciated by 84% over the past three months and trades at a 9% premium to our base case NAV, we still see trading upside on the stock based on EV-to-reserves comparison and bull case NAV. We reiterate Buy with a 33% higher PO of Rp1,800, or 25% upside. Higher oil price assumption lifted EPS Merrill Lynch's energy team has raised WTI oil price forecast for 2008 from US$73/bbl to US$82/bbl, for 2009 and long-term from US$60 to US$70. As such, we increased 2008 EPS estimates by 14% and 2009's by 15%. Pricing of uncontracted gas - an important swing factor Between now and 2012, we estimate ENRG will produce 642 bcf of natural gas (gross), 159 bcf of which is un-contracted. Our NAV is highly sensitive to the pricing of this gas. We believe the industry regulator will soon issue a gas price formula that would allow aggressive price hikes - a positive for both upstream and pipe operators. Our NAV ranges from Rp1,321 to Rp1,696 based on sensitivity analysis. Looks attractive based on EV-to-reserves comparison EV-to- reserves (2P) comparison highlights ENRG as one of the value stocks, at US$9.9/boe. ENRG may offer strong inorganic growth in reserves, given Indonesia's focus on ramping up oil exploration and ENRG's political clout. In past transactions, ENRG purchased THP at an implied valuation of US$3.4/boe, and sold part of Kangean at as much as US$4.7/boe, by our calculation.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tomorrow (Tuesday) The Day For Margin Call ?
Board Volume Value Regular 2.212.326.000 3.760.003.000.500 Rights 74,187,000.000 92.579.000 Warrants 66.324.500 19.721.723.000 Market Total 2.971.257.788 5.069.833.612.610 Foreign Buy 587.663.720 1.442.940.646.526 Foreign Sell 460.256.220 1.421.199.552.026 Net Foreign Transaction 127.407.500 21.741.094.500 Last Updated : 17 Desember 2007 15:49:46 Artinya ??? - Original Message - From: gosip_saham To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tomorrow (Tuesday) The Day For Margin Call ? I dont think so.. Tomorrow and day after tomorrow will still bearish. I think after christmas Santa Clauss just give you the gift. Regards, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: besok aja lusa rebonding! --- Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: berarti nampungnya besok aja donk. dow fut juga minus tuh. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana esuwandan@ wrote: oh iya besok mau tutup tahun nggak boleh margin ya? --- bernanke20551 bernanke20551@ wrote: Pemain margin sudah banyak yg lemas hari ini , besok siap2 margin call ya ... ? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM garis.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Cabut gigi...
Dokter giginya Pak DE, pasiennya MBAH ha..ha..ha.. ups maaf... becanda ya mbah... jangan di banned ya... Taz - Original Message - From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cabut gigi... Hehe, aku punya riddle juga nih.. Alkisah ada seseorang yang seseorang menderita sakit gigi yang parah. Karena sakitnya semakin jadi, maka dia pun pergi ke dokter gigi. Sesampai di tempat praktek, dia bertanya pada sang dokter, dan dijawab tarifnya tiga juta rupiah. Mahal juga ya, pikir si pasien. Namun karena sakitnya sudah tidak tertahankan, akhirnya dia setuju. Dan dalam waktu tak lebih dari satu menit gigi yang sakit sudah tercabut. Walaupun penderitaanya hilang, si pasien merasa sedikit gusar. Dia merasa harga cabut gigi terlalu mahal. Lalu dia bertanya pada sang dokter Dok, saya mau tanya, kok tarifnya mahal sekali ya sampai tiga juta, padahal cuma semenit selesai, tanya si pasien Si dokter menjawab, Hehe, sebenarnya bapak bisa dapat cabut gigi gratis kok, tapi giginya saya cabut pelan-pelan, bapak mau? Sang pasien hanya tersipu malu mendengar jawaban si dokter gigi. Pertanyaanya: Siapakah pasien dan dokter gigi diatas? Regards, DE -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM 0013.gif0034.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Hayo siapa yang berani bikin bursa hijau hari ini?
Deposito bukannya 6% pak? setau saya sih segitu... sory klo salah. - Original Message - From: tbumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Hayo siapa yang berani bikin bursa hijau hari ini? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Salomo Gaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Betul pemaen margin pd kbr! Saya aja utk keduakalinya cut los neh. Huh! Slg SIP : TBUMI Dana utk investasi saham harus bersumber dari uang santai alias dana yg siap utk lama tak mau dipakai. Dari pada pemodal deposito uang tsb di bank, maka lebih baik beli saham yg berfundamental baik dan mempunyai prospek baik saja. Keuntungan per tahun bisa 50% sampai 150% di saham, sedangkan deposito baru sekitar 10% per tahun dan belum lagi dipotong pajak yg besar.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mr Bear FIRST DAY APPEARANCE... Re: Intermezzo, selingan, BACA HANYA ...
beruangnya hilang kali mbah karna gak keliatan? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mr Bear FIRST DAY APPEARANCE... Re: Intermezzo, selingan, BACA HANYA ... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: td siang udah liat sih, rada serem juga liat overshoot jauh banget dari garis merah.. kuatir jg kl beruangnya Bill ternyata warnanya merah.. Jadi jawaban warna beruang: - Warna beruang adalah MERAH... - Bukan beruang coklat Grizzly bear tapi BERUANG MERAH dari Rusia yang LARI LARI dengan kecepatan 30 mph sambil bawa palu arit buat maluin para investor dan ngarit leher trader Embah tadi heran si Bill nulis Jawaban TERAKHIR padahal dia lagi nanya warna beruang. Apakah maksudnya teka teki beruang ini merupakan tulisan TERAKHIR si Bill ?.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] KGWL Breakout Watch List 11Des07
Kalo buat saya sangat bermanfaat pak. keep posting Taz - Original Message - From: kecoak ganteng To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] KGWL Breakout Watch List 11Des07 Rekan rekan, Saya ingin tahu apakah watch list ini bermanfaat atau tidak. Mohon dapat disampaikan langsung ke email saya [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bukan melalui milis). Jika memang kurang ada tanggapan atau kurang bermanfaat maka watch list hari ini merupakan yang terakhir. Salam KG
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mohon penjelasan istilah2
Kulonuwun Mo nambahin lagi he...he (sok tau amat gw ye... he...he... pletak...) beta juga bisa di hitung dengan covarian antara return saham dan return pasar dibagi dengan varian return pasar kalo dah dpt beta tinggal kira2 market di akhir tahun dan risk freenya berapa. misal: market awal tahun misal 1800 (misal loh.. maaf lupa he...) dan di akhir tahun 3000, jadi return IHSG setahun = 66.67%. asumsi risk free di akhir tahun 8% betanya setelah dihitung misal dapet 1.4. berarti dpt estimasi return saham X sebesar : 8% + 1.4*( 66.67% - 8% ) = 90.136% kalo harga saham X di awal tahun 1000 berarti di akhir tahun harganya : 1000*( 1+90.136% ) kurang lebih 1900. ini namanya klo gak salah equilibrium model ada di buku2 dasar investasi karangan BKM (bodie kane marcus) saya pernah coba cara ini dan untuk saham2 mining CPO hasilnya selalu lebih kecil dari harga pasar sekarang. tapi klo buat sektor lain spt property, banking dll justru kebalikannya. tanya mengapa ??? mungkin pertanyaan ini cocoknya dijawab sama para senior seperti Kang Ocoy, Mbah, Pak DE, Pak TBumi, Ibu Ratu Sima, dll. saya juga bingung... maklum masih newbie he...he... pletak... Taz - Original Message - From: dewi_safrina To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:17 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mohon penjelasan istilah2 Hanya nambahin...beta dpt dihitung dng regresi program excell...x=return IHSGy=return stock,bisa harian bulanan tahunan dan di-rata2, dimasukan program ketemu beta dan alphanya...tapi itu adalah HISTORICAL BETA, pdhl CAPM memerlukan BETA PROJECTION jadi harus di extrapolasi...tp biasanya dianggap BETA PROJECTION=BETA HISTORIAL SEMOGA BERMANFAAT DS --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Januar Ingga Bayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terima pak Resky. Yang saya maksud dengan data2 tsb yaitu ttg data2 suatu emiten tertentu. Misalkan beta of stock saham TLKM. Trs misal expected growth rate saham ENRG. Dimanakah saya mendapatkan data tsb? Saya pengen pake file BasicStockValuation.xls dari kang Ocoy, tp butuh data2 tsb. - Original Message - From: Resky Aindhaka To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Mohon penjelasan istilah2 number of shares outstanding= jumlah saham yang beredar market price of stock= harga saham di pasar Net income after taxes= pendapatan bersih perusahaan setelah dipotong pajak total sales or revenues = total pendapatan dari operasional book value of equity= harga saham berdasarkan harga buku risk free rate = instrumen investasi yang bebas risiko di indonesia biasanya SBI dividend paid = jumlah dividen yang di berikan oleh perusahaan stock repurchases = saham yang di beli kembali oleh perusahaan beta of stock = sensitivitas pergerakan harga saham perusahaan terhadap pasar market risk premium = tingkat risiko rata2 pasar, biasanya dipakai adalah inflasi expected growth rate = pertumbuhan dari income perusahaan yang di harapkan oleh investor semua istilah dapat ditemukan di buku2 yang membahas tentang finansial. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Januar Ingga Bayu Sent: Mon 12/10/2007 11:07 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mohon penjelasan istilah2 Mohon penjelasan atas istilah-istilah berikut dan dimanakah sy bisa mendapatkan data2 ini. NUMBER OF SHARES OUTSTANDING (Mil.) MARKET PRICE OF STOCK / SHARE NET INCOME AFTER TAXES TOTAL SALES OR REVENUES BOOK VALUE OF EQUITY (FROM BALANCE SHEET) RISK FREE RATE (T- Bill) DIVIDENDS PAID (TOTAL AMOUNT PAID) STOCK REPURCHASES (TOTAL AMOUNT PAID) BETA OF STOCK MARKET RISK PREMIUM (10%-20% Historically) EXPECTED GROWTH RATE (EARNINGS OR DIVIDENDS STOCK REPURCHASES) Matur nuwun atas penjelasannya. clip_image002.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Di manakah bisa training WPPE?
Training WPPE setau saya ada di bina insan (3855186 - 9201139), kalo gak salah yg punya Pak Parto Karwito. Kalo mo belajar sendiri ada buku Panduan ujian latihan soal profesi pasar modal, karangan Megawati Muljana Andy Porman. - Original Message - From: budi zhu To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Di manakah bisa training WPPE? Dear All, Saya mau tanya di manakah saya bisa training WPPE? Thank you atas infonya. Best Regards and All Due Respect, budi __ NOD32 2704 (20071205) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
[obrolan-bandar] PTBA Break New High
PTBA 12750 skr.
Re: ANTM 30% sang pemula (was RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To TBumi: Jangan ngumpet lo..)
Kalo per 2 hari saya belum hitung, tapi kalo per hari secara rata2 jarang ada yang bisa kasih lebih dari 3%. ada sih beberapa seperti ANTM, ELTY, BRPT... tapi rata2 lo, tidak mesti setiap hari. volatilitas per hari dari 2 januari 2007 s/d 3 desember 2007 IHSG 1.52% AALI 2.76% ADHI 2.89% ANTM 3.76% APEX 2.08% APOL 3.06% ASII 2.50% ATPK 7.62% BBCA 2.04% BBKP 2.56% BBNI 2.64% BBRI 2.39% BDMN 2.74% BHIT 3.76% BLTA 2.87% BMRI 2.68% BMTR 3.09% BNBR 3.36% BNGA 2.81% BNII 2.79% BRPT 6.50% BTEL 3.77% BUMI 3.53% CMNP 3.69% CPRO 5.36% CTRA 3.16% CTRS 2.78% ELTY 4.26% ENRG 3.84% EPMT 2.11% EXCL 2.63% FREN 2.36% GGRM 2.16% GJTL 2.44% HMSP 1.84% INCO 3.52% INDF 2.73% INKP 3.08% INTP 2.75% ISAT 2.62% KIJA 4.06% KLBF 1.74% LPKR 1.33% LSIP 2.23% MEDC 3.15% PGAS 3.11% PKPK 7.08% PNBN 2.74% PNLF 2.89% PTBA 3.56% SGRO 3.32% SMAR 2.50% SMCB 3.45% SMGR 2.23% SULI 3.60% TBLA 4.67% TINS 4.67% TLKM 2.03% TOTL 2.66% TRUB 2.92% TSPC 2.21% UNSP 3.15% UNTR 2.52% UNVR 2.29% - Original Message - From: arnold To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: ANTM 30% sang pemula (was RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To TBumi: Jangan ngumpet lo..) wah 30% sebulan, di rata2 +3% udah dilepas berarti ada 10x sell. 1 bulan 22 hari kerja dibagi 10, berarti setiap 2 hari ada yg cuan 3%.. jadi yang perlu dilakukan adalah: stock apa saja yg bisa ngasih cuan 3% per 2 hari..?? salam :-) arnold --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My advice is be careful, Jangan trlalu trgiur, that,s 360% pr year kalo ga hoki2 banget ga bakal dapat, hehehe. --Original Message-- From: Yudi Tridarmawan Sender: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Dec 4, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: RE: ANTM 30% sang pemula (was RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To TBumi: Jangan ngumpet lo..) Hehehe maksud saya itu minta Sang Pemula untuk share trik and tipsnya yg agak detail gitu lho Pak SB. Supaya bisa 30% juga sebulan. Saya pengen ikut menjalankan 3 syarat itu (Syaratnya cm 3, hati hati, waspada, jgn rakus.) __ NOD32 2699 (20071203) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
