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2009-05-12 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
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[obrolan-bandar] [saham] Re: RUPO TBLA BESOK!

2007-09-26 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Gali lobang Rupiah tutup pake Lobang Dollar. 
Kok Boss Eka ga ngitung beban bunga dalam Dollarnya + biaya ngehedge 
Resiko Forex nya.

Ini persh jualan minyak goreng dlm Rupiah sepatutnya pinjam dlm 
rupiah. Hehehe.. Yg ditunggu justru akuisisi oleh seseorang atau 
digerakkan..




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, exindo_trade 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tapi kok belum jalan pak?
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana esuwandan@ 
 wrote:
 
  Iya coba bayangkan laba usaha sekitar 75M beban bunga yg isinya 
 coupn bond 45M (didalamnya 44M bayar coupon bond yg 14.7%), 1h 2007 
 profit tinggal 25M kalo nggak salah.
Nah yg 44M ini sudah bakal nggak ada lagi mulai tahun 
 depan...diganti dgn hutang USD bunga antara 6-8%! separuh saja 
 berkurang seharusnya 1h 2007, 45M. Dulu kan TBLA perusahaan trading 
 minyak goreng sekarang beda , punya kebun sendiri. Tahun depan 
 proyeksi laba diatas 100M. 
Plus bisa cepat expansinya.
Bandar silakan guyur lagi ! 
  
  Lorena registrationlorena@ wrote:
  Hidup TBLA!! Kita songsong 1000 kita tinggalkan 
 kemiskinan!! RUPO sukses!!
Merdeka!! Merdeka!!
  
  laven_28 laven_28@ wrote:
KLO RUPO SUKSES, minimal pengaruh ke harga 100 perak!
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kingcramus@ wrote:
  
   Kita doakan pak, semoga highway ..bablas ke 1000..
   
   Tx
   
   Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Eka Suwandana esuwandan@
   
   Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:56:59 
   To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [saham] RUPO TBLA BESOK!
   
   
   Besok RUPO TBLA detailnya ada disini :
   
   http://www.ksei. http://www.ksei.co.id/announcement/files/Ann%
  20RUPO%20TBLA%20%2019.09.pdf co.id/announcement/files/Ann%20RUPO%
  20TBLA%20%2019.09.pdf
   
   Kalo sukses , bondnya berhasil di buyback Strong Buy
   TBLA. 900 perem!
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: 2 MR DE

2007-08-31 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
GOOD..!
Mari kita sama sama Tarik ke 2300 minggu depan...



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 history ...when  lippo group jump/
 
 the market will down 
 
 How about you Mr DE ?
 
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[obrolan-bandar] [saham] Re: TBLA support 480 Strong buy

2007-08-08 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Kangen ama bikini bottom kemana tuh penghuninya. Lagi coblos kali ?

Pak, kalo mau belanja, teliti, cermati, tanya kiri kanan, lakukan 
pengecekan langsung ke lapangan.

Kalo ketemu org marketing, semua barang juga bagus.. hahahaha

Sorry no offense.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, exindo_trade 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saya udah beli lo pak. Pokoknya saya modal percaya ama janjinya Pak 
 Eka hehehehe
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana esuwandan@ 
 wrote:
 
  Janji SWEAR DEH!
  --- Sriwisnu-gmail sriwisnu@ wrote:
  
   Pak Eka... pake janji Ludahin Saya Kalo Gak
   Kejadian Dalam 2 Tahun dong biar kayak ANTM dulu
   waktu ke 14000.
   Soalnya kalo dah pake janji gitu biasanya TP lebih
   cepat nih di Rp. 2000. nya
   He. he. he.  tiktok aja sebagian juga lumayan
   nihJual antri pagi ... buy antri dapet sore...
   hitung hitung.. bikin avg ke bwh and collect makin
   banyak.. yg penting gak kehilangan barang buat long
   term...2008 bakal ngejosss...
   
   
   - Original Message - 
 From: Eka Suwandana 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
   obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:33 AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Re: TBLA
   support 480 Strong buy
   
   
   
 Sudah biarkan saja pak LAVEN di kasih tau nggak
 percayakata orang jaman dulu mah ...kopig...!
 Biar kita ber2 yg kaya raya.
 Yakin saya 2000 perak tembus dalam 2 tahun. 
   
 --- Erwin bp6 ErwinE@ wrote:
   
  Kalo TBLA itu naik kan lebih banyak gara2 ada
   isu
  mau diakuisisi asing dari
  pada fundamentalnya jadi begitu isunya menguap
   ya
  kembali lagi ke harga
  wajarnya
  Dengan harga 480 sudah wajar apalagi harga dasar
   PE
  dinaikkan, perkebunan
  kemaren pada rontok 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: laven_28 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:58 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [saham] Re: TBLA support 480 Strong buy
  
  SALES Q2 TBLA sudah 481M
  Klo Kita asumsikan Q3 dan Q4 sama dgn Q2 SALES
   UTK
  2007 UDAH 
  MENCAPAI 1,8T...TAPI PASTI Q3 DAN Q4 LEBIH BESAR
  KARNA KLO KITA 
  LIHAT DARI STRUKTUR UMUR TANAMAN, YG BERUMUR
   9TAHUN
  KEATAS 
  BERTAMBAH...
  UTK TAHUN 2008, SALES BISA MENCAPAI 3T, KARNA
   UMUR
  UTK 10TAHUN 
  KEATAS SUDAH MAKIN BANYAK!
  PRODUKTIFITAS TBS PER HEKTARNYA, UTK UMUR 4TH -
   10TH
  ,KLO GAK SALAH 
  NAIK TIAP TAHUNNYA 30%, MULAI TAHUN KE 10
  PRODUKTIFITASNYA STABIL...
  
  KLO KITA ASUMSI KAN SALES 2008 3T, MARGIN KOTOR
  MAKIN MEMBAIK 
  SEIRING DENGAN NAIKNYA PRODUKTIFITAS (SEPERTI
   KATA
  PAK 
  EKA)..KATAKANLAH BISA MENCAPAI 25% BERARTI TBLA
  BAKAL UNTUNG BESAR 
  DITAHUN 2008!
  EPS BISA MENCAPAI 85 PER SAHAM LOH...
  INI BELUM MEMPERHITUNGKAN KENAIKAN HARGA CPO
  DUNIA...
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:saham%40yahoogroups.com -com,
   laven_28
  laven_28@ wrote:
  
   untuk TBLA, ada yang punya data/info kenapa
   dia
  banyak terima Uang 
   muka Penjualan (coba lihat posisi kredit
  neracanya).
   
   Apakah ini yang menyebabkan Gross profit
   margin
  dia paling rendah 
   dibanding yg laen (UNSP 36%, LSIP 35%, AALI
   50%)
   SEKARANG DIA CUMAN 18% (1H)PADAHAL DIA KAN
   JUAL
  MINYAK GORENG 
  JUGA, 
   YG HARUSNYA GROSS PROFIT MARGINNYA LEBIH BAGUS
   KLO
  CUMAN JUAL CPO!
   
   COBA BAYANGKAN KLO DIA BISA MENAIKKAN GROSS
   PROFIT
  MARGINNYA 
  MINIMAL 
   SAMA DENGAN UNSP DEH (35%) BERAPA KENAIKKAN
  EPSNYA!
   
   MUNGKIN KITA SUDAH KECOLONGAN BANDAR, BANDAR
   PASTI
  TAHU SEBABNYA 
   KENAPA GPM TBLA CUMAN SEGITU!
   MUNGKIN INI JUGA YG MENYEBABKAN KENAPA ASING
   TIDAK
  KELUAR DARI 
   TBLA, PADAHAL COST BELI MEREKA MURAH (ASING
   BANYAK
  BELI DI TAHUN 
   2006)..
   
   
   
   
   
   --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:saham%40yahoogroups.com -com, Eka
  Suwandana esuwandan@ wrote:
   
Nggak mungkin bandar jebolan 480 soalnya
   support
  berikutnya 360. 
   Rugi dia, kalo perlu gw gadaikan mertua kalo
   360
  buat angkat TBLA .
   
  
  
  
  
  --- 
  
  
  
   
   
   
  
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: (IHSG = Index Harga Saham Gorengan) + Transfer Window..

2007-08-07 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Menurut survey LSI Si kumis 58%, sedang no 1 di bawah 30%..
Jadi...?Hehehehe..

DJ merah krn biaya produksi Mr Krab, Patrick Star, Gary, Squidward, 
Sandy dan Plankton di Bikini BOTTOM muahal... jadi DJ + IHSG kudu 
di BOTTOMin dulu.. biar nanti Pak LD dkk dapet barang murah... 
Coanya buat produksi lagi..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, SpongeBob SquarePants 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Emang gede yah dana Bursa yg keseret ke kampanye Pilkada?? Bwt 
ngempanin 20-an Partai..
 Kalo Si Kumis kalah gimana Pak??
 Kalo setiap Juli-Agustus Merah ada hubungannya sama Transfer Window 
Pemaen Bola Dunia ga ya?? hehehe
 Mungkin aja DJ merah karena dana-nya ditarik bwt nutupin nilai 
kontrak Beckham, n tambah minus karena harus nyiapin dana tambahan 
tuk ngerayu Zidane maen bola lagi (di LA Galaxy).. hehehe
 
 - Pesan Asli 
 Dari: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Terkirim: Selasa, 7 Agustus, 2007 4:26:29
 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG = Index Harga Saham Gorengan
 
 Jangan begitu, masa wallstreet indonesia dibilang ecek ecek... uda 
 cape roadshow ke daerah utk narik org2 IPO kok digituin sih.. huss.
 
 minggu depan udah tenang.. Si Kumis menang dulu...
 
 Mr James Arifin dkk, lg sibuk ngitung coan nge short? jadi ga 
sempat 
 nulis?
 Hehehehe
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, securitas 
emtingkong@ ... 
 wrote:
 
  IHSG = IHH HARGANYA SADIS GITU
  BEJ = BURSA ECEK ECEK JAKARTA
  
  On 8/7/07, JSX BARON jsx_baron@ .. wrote:
  
  
  
   Di IHSG kayaknya FA dan TA tidak berlaku, gak peduli bursa 
 regional dan
   dunia naik atau turun, IHSG tetep aja merah, nasib bursa 
 Indonesia di tangan
   segelintir broker dan Fund Manager Asing. Lupain aja TA dan FA, 
 lebih baik
   minta nasehat ke Mbah Marijan saham2 apa aja yg bagus buat di 
 beli. Jadi
   lebih baik kalau singkatan IHSG kita ubah menjadi Index Harga 
 Saham
   Gorengan.
  
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Fw: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kecian Banget Buat Dewa TA Yang Ramal Indeks Ke 1800

2007-07-31 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hahahaha...
Mr yg ngakunya bandar... Kindly help retailer to buy today..

Jangan malah nge short 2 x lipat hehehehe...

Kasihan tuhh retailer yg percaya mkt masih kuat... 

Salam Short utk James Arifin dkk ya..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 DOW minus , Asia sebagian besar masih terbakar ..
 mungkin aja dewa TA yang benar ?
 WHO KNOWS , Nobody !!
 Just safe trade .
 
 
 
 
 On 8/1/07, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Dalam negeri beluma ada berita positif,Lap Keu 1 H udah pada 
keluar.
  Jadi yang ada sekarang di kocok kocok DJIA.
 
 
  - Original Message - *From:* James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2007 6:56 AM
  *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kecian Banget Buat Dewa TA 
Yang Ramal
  Indeks Ke 1800
 
 
 
  tapi sekarang MBAH kok diam aja nggak ngajakin masuk lagi
 
  On 7/31/07, pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Buat saya sih ga ada dewa TA... yang ada Mbah TA. Nah, kalo 
itu saya
   percaya. Kalo Mbah udah mulai teriak  kasih warning, itu 
waktunya
   utk waspada. Dan sudah terbukti 'kan.
  
   Kalau Mbah diam - probably aman. Mbah teriak mau bull market -
   zaman keemasan tiba. Kalo dewa TA yg ngomong ke 1800 itu... yah
   maybe yes, maybe no. Gak usah dipuja, nanti memuja berhala, jd
   ketinggalan cuan deh... hehehe...
  
   Lbh baik jadi cucu si Mbah aja, sapa tau kalo lucky bisa 
mewarisi
   kesaktiannya.
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
   joe_grunk joe_grunk@
   wrote:
   
Emang ada dewa TA?
   
Dewa judi sih ada.. hehehe..
   
Bisa tahu siapa dewa ta?
mau belajar dunk, barangkali jadi asisten dewa... hehehe...
   
  
  
   
 





Fw: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kecian Banget Buat Dewa TA Yang Ramal Indeks Ke 1800

2007-07-31 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Ok bozz.. gw jual 5 lot, tapi yg 1 lot disisain buat retailer ya.. 
jgn dibeli semua hehehe..

Ditantangin tuh... Bottom berapa heheheheh... 
Info : Futures Dow udah turun 1% lagi.. 13,000 jebol?? silahkan 
bergadang ntar malam..menyaksikan weak bull (ampir mencret) vs 
Subprime Bear... hahaaha



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laksono dwighty 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do buy. makanya jualan dong. cuma punya lima lot aja 
banyak teori...
 
 mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Hahahaha...
 Mr yg ngakunya bandar... Kindly help retailer to buy today..
 
 Jangan malah nge short 2 x lipat hehehehe...
 
 Kasihan tuhh retailer yg percaya mkt masih kuat... 
 
 Salam Short utk James Arifin dkk ya..
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Boen mr.boenjamin@ 
 wrote:
 
  DOW minus , Asia sebagian besar masih terbakar ..
  mungkin aja dewa TA yang benar ?
  WHO KNOWS , Nobody !!
  Just safe trade .
  
  
  
  
  On 8/1/07, Heryadi heriadi@ wrote:
  
   Dalam negeri beluma ada berita positif,Lap Keu 1 H udah pada 
 keluar.
   Jadi yang ada sekarang di kocok kocok DJIA.
  
  
   - Original Message - *From:* James Arifin 
 james.arifin@
   *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2007 6:56 AM
   *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kecian Banget Buat Dewa TA 
 Yang Ramal
   Indeks Ke 1800
  
  
  
   tapi sekarang MBAH kok diam aja nggak ngajakin masuk lagi
  
   On 7/31/07, pemainedan pemainedan@ wrote:
   
Buat saya sih ga ada dewa TA... yang ada Mbah TA. Nah, kalo 
 itu saya
percaya. Kalo Mbah udah mulai teriak  kasih warning, itu 
 waktunya
utk waspada. Dan sudah terbukti 'kan.
   
Kalau Mbah diam - probably aman. Mbah teriak mau bull 
market -
zaman keemasan tiba. Kalo dewa TA yg ngomong ke 1800 itu... 
yah
maybe yes, maybe no. Gak usah dipuja, nanti memuja berhala, jd
ketinggalan cuan deh... hehehe...
   
Lbh baik jadi cucu si Mbah aja, sapa tau kalo lucky bisa 
 mewarisi
kesaktiannya.
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,
joe_grunk joe_grunk@
wrote:

 Emang ada dewa TA?

 Dewa judi sih ada.. hehehe..

 Bisa tahu siapa dewa ta?
 mau belajar dunk, barangkali jadi asisten dewa... hehehe...

   
   
   
  
 
 
 
 
  
 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: GREAT SALE!!! How Delicious It Was.

2007-07-29 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
HORE!!!... ada juga yg berani nampung muntahan bozz2..

Great Sale end season dimulai, kapan selesai? hanya bozz2 yg tau..

bozz -- beda ama Bozz--- beda juga ama Bos

Salam Pak James Arifin dkk...

Happy Short ya!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Wow!

   GREAT SALE !! setelah lama ditunggu.

   Sampai siang ini sudah hampir BUY overload.
   Moga-moga sampai sesi 2 sudah FULL TANK.

   Selamat berburu !

   Salam Gain
   JACK
 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG: Short term

2007-06-29 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hi hi hi..
Awas Jebakan ada dimana mana.. 
Yg uda naik harus turun, masa naik naik ke puncak gunung?... 
Spt bettina tan, lagi nunggu margin call dan force sell...
Keadaan sudah mendukung, lokal uda ga ada nyali, kalo bugil mau one 
man show.. silahkan..



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laksono dwighty 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 maaf
   tampaknya kita mesti redefine lagi arti dari inflows and outflows 
deh
   selama enam hari kebelakang justru modal lokal yang banyak keluar 
karena salah satunya kasus tmpi, so kalau modal lokal kayaknya gak 
bisa dibilang outflows...
   for the first six months of 2007, capital inflows remain 
healthymemang ada yang keluar pada tgl 28 kemarin..tapi jumlahnya 
cuman less than $40 million dan anehnya pada saat itu ada inflows di 
money market...coba lihat deh...
   critical level 2138 sudah tembus, tapi kita lihat nanti apakah 
itu artinya indeks bisa lewat another critical level of 2156-
2163...kalau iya...jalan tol menuju 2240 terbuka sampai awal 
agustus... (dengan catatan yang keluar july 20-24 gak terlalu banyak)
   ok deh 
   disclaimer and mohon maaf sekali lagi kalau sok tahu
   jabat damai ah
   
 
 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Terjadi Capital Outflow selama 6 hari bursa berturut turut
 yang mengakibatkan IHSG terkoreksi sekitar 50 point dengan
 lowest low 2088
 
 Meskipun Capital Outflow masih terjadi, IHSG berhasil TBONE
 kelevel 2119 pada closing sesi 1 hari ini.
 
 Support kuat DJ ada dilevel 13200, saat ini ada dilevel 13422.
 Hati hati jika DJ turun lagi terutama jika mendekati 13200,
 dibawah level ini IHSG menurut embah SANGAT BERBAHAYA...
 
 Mudah mudahan IHSG technical rebound DIIKUTI dengan masuknya
 lagi capital inflow keBEJ dengan harapan DJ melanjutkan 
 reboundnya.
 
 
 
  
 
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: news TMPI (lagi..)

2007-06-28 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Kata Pak Haji,
Keledai yang dungu aja tidak jatuh ke lobang yg sama dua kali

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gambler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Keputusan jual-beli ada ditangan masing2, ingat waktu kejadian 
pertama semua 
 rame2 teriak jangan jual nah yg gak jual apa nggak nyangkut saat 
ini? Make 
 your own decision, do your homework it's your own money.
 
 
 ...
 - Original Message - 
 From: alc_47percent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:30 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] news TMPI (lagi..)
 
 
  TMPI suspend atas permintaan emiten. Selasa depan partner 
singapore and
  fund manager datang membereskan semua...
  importanto ini bukan rumor!!! berarti ada kemungkinan TMPI ada
  tender offer di harga 3000..
 
  jangan panik ya buat yang pegang TMPI jangan jual TMPI anda.
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Index tutup di 2.125,3380 (2.120)

2007-06-27 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Party Time!

Oh ya, kalo ada Junior HF; ada Super Senior kali ya yg bisa membuat 
Mkt seluruh dunia Bearish dlm sehari...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laksono dwighty 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wukalau saja saya sebesar pak FS...nggak lah 
mbah...
   pak FS kan mungkin kan kelola lebih dari $10 bio untuk seluruh 
asia... kalau saya ini apalah...
   cuma nebak-nebak aja kok
   muingkin besok hijau royo-royo mbah (ada late 
buying)n mungkin krn inflasi juni indonesia slower than 
may...trus junior hedge funds selesai jualan hari ini... nti malem 
djia gerak up and down 25-46 point
   disclaimer banget yak...(alias non opinion hehe)  

   
 
 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   PANIC SELLING memang tidak terjadi, karena hampir semua 
turun
 secara MERATA. Pada panic selling BEBERAPA saham BC seharusnya 
 TURUN DRASTIS
 
 TLKM aja dijagain ama si BOZZ, jadi MARKET masih BISA DIKENDALIIN 
 'kata' boss gede Asal jangan sibozz yg panik besok :) 
 
 Gimana index besok ?.
 
 Kita ngomong lagi besok pagi sesudah INDEX REGIONAL keluar besok 
 pagi. Percuma kita ngomong IHSG akan kemana karena si BOZZ 
 engga bisa MENGENDALIKAN index regional...
 
 Minggu terakhir ini menurut analisa embah, si BOZZ kejedut
 di trading...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, highwaystar91 
 highwaystar91@ wrote:
 
  Mbah, gimana besok?...Rebound kah? hehe...
  
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ wrote:
  
   Embah jadi INGET ama ung Pemainbesar yg suka bikin prediksi
   closing saat index jatoh...
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, laksono dwighty 
   ngakunyabandar@ wrote:
   
indeks hari ini rabu akan ditutup di 2127-2134off earlier 
  lows 
   of 2107.680.
hor

Eka Suwandana esuwandan@ wrote:
Ancaman resesi. Housing market prices drop! Kalo udah 
   gini commodities stock macam BHP, EXXON, turun. Imbasnya ke 
 nikel, 
   oil, copper, dsb. So sahamnya turun. 

Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ wrote: Apakah di 
   bursa terjadi panic selling? Kalau dilihat dari volume belum 
bisa 
   dibilang crash. Beda dengan kasus crash gara-gara redemption 
   reksadana besar-besaran waktu itu, hingga akhirnya fund manager 
  juga 
   melego portfolionya.

MUNGKIN besok rebound. Lagian ada isu negatif apa sih? 
 Rasanya 
   nggak ada. The FED kah? Naik pun suku bunga kita teteup lebih 
  tinggi.

Aku mau minta pendapat nih sama para suhu : apakah koreksi 
  hari 
   ini bisa dibilang sehat? 
Regards,
DE



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Febry Hariyannugraha
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:23 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kacau semua dah



Just because the market gave you $1000 in profit in 2 
   minutes, it has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the 
market 
  is 
   going to continue in the same direction. Nothing whatsoever
... taken from Emotion Free Trading Book  
On 6/27/07, exindo_trade exindo_trade@ wrote:
Maaf ya temen temen. Cuman hari ini saya lagi stress 
   berat. Jadi lagi 
kepingin teriak-teriak. Bole ya. Sebelumnya saya minta ijin 
 dulu.

   
  
 
Arggghhh.

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Laporan Intel TA - INDF 070529 Sessi I

2007-05-30 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Kali ini, gw contrarian.
Bandar buang INDF, gw dan teman2 retail beli INDF.
Cash hasil cuan nge short.. dibeliin INDF semua.
Utk yg ini, dianggap tidak exist di day trade aja, ntar akhir tahun 
juga berbuah buanyakk..

Hidup BANDAR! Tanpa Bandar ga CUAN, No pain No Gain!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Angelo Michel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Meskipun Bandar berupaya mengumpulkan barang selama pertengahan Mei 
(lihat BD 1 Week), tetapi itu rupanya untuk mengangkat harga agar 
dapat membuang barangnya di harga yang bagus.
 
 Upaya melepas barang terlihat sudah dimulai sejak awal minggu kedua 
bulan Mei (lihat BD 1 Month). Ini pun setelah bandar sendiri kecele. 
Bandar sebenarnya sedang mengumpulkan barang sejak pertengahan April. 
Rupanya Bandar sedang mengharapkan sesuatu yang sangat positif pada 
saham ini. Tapi begitu mendapatkan konfirmasi bahwa berita tersebut 
tidak demikian, Bandar segera melepas barangnya. Namun karena harga 
cepat turun, Bandar berupaya memanfaatkan berita2 bagus agar harga 
bisa diangkat lagi.
 
 BD Sell pada tanggal 29 Mei menunjukkan bahwa Bandar sudah 
melakukan penjualan besar2an tepat pada waktu harga melakukan break 
out. Suatu peristiwa teknikal yang seringkali dianggap positif oleh 
pasar. Bandar benar2 memanfaatkan keadaan ini. Akibatnya pada tanggal 
25 Mei banyak sekali korban yang barangnya tersangkut di sekitar 1800.
 
 Untunglah para klien Intel TA yang kemarin mendapatkan peringatan 
ini, telah ikut melepaskan barangnya.





[obrolan-bandar] Re: INDF : Laporan Intel TA - INDF 070529 Sessi I

2007-05-30 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Below 1700 Ok lho, sebab selama ini INDf belum naikin harga 
noodlenya. trus baru naikin Rp.50/bungkus. target gw siih above 2000. 
Adding LSIP into its group, should provide better supply of its 
edible oil


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Agung Cap [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Mr.bearish_forever
 
 INDF dari kemaren turun terus,.. Apa tidak sebaiknya nunggu dulu??
 Please advise. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of mr.bearish_forever
 Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:20 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Laporan Intel TA - INDF 070529 Sessi I
 
 Kali ini, gw contrarian.
 Bandar buang INDF, gw dan teman2 retail beli INDF.
 Cash hasil cuan nge short.. dibeliin INDF semua.
 Utk yg ini, dianggap tidak exist di day trade aja, ntar akhir tahun 
 juga berbuah buanyakk..
 
 Hidup BANDAR! Tanpa Bandar ga CUAN, No pain No Gain!





[obrolan-bandar] Re: JSX ALERT: Capital OUTFLOW memprihatinkan !!!

2007-05-30 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
2nd Liner -- INDF tetap Jaya.. no Worry man..Salah satu calon 
SHOOTING STAR MR LEE.. Right Mr. LEE? IFAR SP is one of your 
portfolio hehehehe.


TLKM -- SHORT TP 9000, BEWARE Bull Berak!

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pahala Baringbing 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mbah… apakah Capital Outflow hanya mengancam saham Blue Chip aja?
 
 bagaimana nasib saham 2nd  3rd liner ? apakah akan ikut hanyut ?
 
 
 
 best regards..
 
 
 On 5/31/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Meskipun pagi ini IHSG rebound TINGGI, tapi BOLA SALJU CAPITAL
  OUTFLOW MAKIN MEMBESAR TERUS 
 
  REDUCE YOUR EQUITY sebelum BOLA SALJU melabrak anda 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Embah jsx-consultant@ wrote:
  
   JSX ALERT: Capital OUTFLOW memprihatinkan !!!
  
  
   Embah kirimkan lagi grafik JSX CAPITAL FLOW terakhir...
  
   Dari gambar terlihat CAPITAL OUTFLOW mulai terjadi dalam
   beberapa HARI TERAKHIR...
  
   Apakah ini adalah AWAL dari BOLA SALJU yg makin membesar ?.
  
  
   ...
  
   embah, bandarmologist
  
 
  
 





Re: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEAR....BEAR......???

2007-05-24 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Guys, do we need to commit Harakiri short selling? 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DJI dibuka sempat menguat 0.7 % dan akhirnya ditutup melemah -0.6 %
 ini akibat statement Allan Greenspan yang udah pensiun.
 Ini kan reaksi sesaat minggu depan juga rebound lagi.
 
 GBU
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: macan cuan 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:47 AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEARBEAR..???
 
 
 Ini lho Pak..
 WORLD INDICES Market Indices Index Level +/-% 
   COMPX 2.537,9199 -1,5184 
   DJI 13.441,1299 -0,6249 
   HSI.X 20.798,9707 0, 
   NI225 17.696,9707 0, 
   STI 3.530,2600 0, 
  Updated 25/05/2007, 04:25:07
 
 Masih ada yg mau teriak lagi 
 
 coba tebak IHSG hari ini terjungkal hingga berapa poin ??
 
 tunggu sampai seninyg nekat masuk ya tanggung 
sendiri..
 
 disclaimer ON  OFF, that's ur call
 
 
 
 
 
 Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   dow roller coaster dari +80an jadi -20
   emank udah waktunya koreksi dulu
   regards
 
 
   On 5/24/07, Eddy S. Purnomo  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Keep watching bro, there may be confusion in the market.
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: ihsg 88 
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:04 PM
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, 
BULL...BULL ...BULL..???
 
 
   DJ crazy. + - + - ??. I wait  see.
 
 
   On 5/24/07, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I will back. DowJones + again. 
 
 
 
 On 5/24/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
   No problem if you sold it yesterday, so you can buy good 
stock at cheap price. Therefore, yesterday I agree with macan cuan to 
sell and short all INCO and ANTM to be able to buy back again at 
lower price. So I am still waiting the right timing for entry, for 
sure it is not today 
 
 
 
   On 5/24/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
 USA do not need your country get bear.. especially... 
to  keep this region from china influence
 Your BI Rate will be down again 
 The price of your SUN continue to rise
 
 So.. what's wrong with your country ???
 
 It is still good 
 
 Until now I prefer to invest in your country
 
 Because  our country don't have natural resources... i 
must buy ANTM, INCO, PTBA, AALI, TINS etc 
 
 so buy that stock,
  
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Wiro Hardy wiro.pribadi@ gmail.com
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2007 2:51:16
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, 
BEAR...BEAR ...BEAR..???
 
 
 Naik turun ya wajar, turun koreksi dibilang BEAR ya 
susah. Dari Maret 07 sampe hari ini lihat chart ihsg kok sepertinya 
naik ya alias uptrend? Klo tiap koreksi dibilang bear berarti dari 
maret 07 sampe skrg udah belasan bear dong?? 
 
 
 On 5/24/07, macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id  wrote: 
   Masih ada yg mau teriak BULL BULL BULL ???
 
   Hehehhee . ...turun 1,27 % nih sampe 
detik ini. ...
 
   tunggu aja sampai senin... .kita lihat sampai 
dimana kekuatan support2 IHSG.. 
 
 
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Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Ada yang ikutan beli bareng gw ngga kemarin?  khan gw sudah bilang 
untuk cover my short position... yach sekarang tinggal lari sambil 
angkat rok.. he he he


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 TLKM.down to JUMP
 
 - Original Message 
 From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 2:58:53
 Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 14:50
 
 
 
 TLKM Technical reBound +300 (3,2%)...
 
 
 
 Will TLKM TBon be followed by FUND INFLOW tomorrow ?.
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Mr. Boen 
mr.boenjamin@ ... 
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  gimana klo TLKM di bawah 8500 ??
 
  hmm .. nyam nyam
 
  
 
  mr.boen
 
  
 
  
 
  On 5/22/07, anto cibubur anto8384@ . wrote:
 
  
 
 TP 31/05/07 9.000
 
  
 
   dari sumber yang tidak dapat dipercaya
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   - Pesan Asli 
 
   Dari: ALX alexmuhairuddin@ ...
 
   Kepada: junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com; obrolan-
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 
   Terkirim: Selasa, 22 Mei, 2007 10:13:20
 
   Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM
 
  
 
FYI...
 
  
 
   Tgl  Broker   Target   Recomm
 
  
 
   27/03/07   DB 13.250Buy
 
   10/04/07Credit Suisse9.200Neutral
 
   20/04/07   DB 13.250Buy
 
   25/04/07   YU  11.000Neutral
 
   25/04/07KZ 12.500Buy
 
   30/04/07YU 11.000Neutral
 
   21/05/07 IF  11.400Buy (Maintained)
 
  
 
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[obrolan-bandar] TLKM - Time to Cover Back

2007-05-22 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Dear All,

I think it's time for me to Cover Back ..

Anyone like to follow?

rgds



[obrolan-bandar] Re: SHARING 3 DARI PAK ADI CHANDRA untuk para milis

2007-05-10 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
IMHO besok Indeks turun. 2047 (highest ever this year)

Siap siap Short! Gajah lawan Jutaan Semut, Gajah juga mampus..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dhany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hik hik hik...
 embah berusaha menjebak pak adi untuk menyampaikan prediksinya, dan 
akan ada
 counter dari embah...
 
 Memang penjelasannya masuk akal. Karena terlalu masuk akalnya itu, 
teman2
 disini malah sudah dari kemaren2 tahu kalo ihsg sedang ada di 
border...
 cuman seperti kata embah... nebaknya mau naik apa turun sih...?
 
 ah, embah ini,.. pak adi jawabnya pasti masih agak lama mbah... 
entar
 jawabannya terlanjur udah basi..
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:38 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SHARING 3 DARI PAK ADI CHANDRA untuk 
para
 milis
 
 
  Jadi singkatnya, menurut pak Adi, IHSG mau diNAEKIN atau
  diTURUNIN ama bandar dilevel 2047 ?.
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, adi chandragold
  adichandragold@ wrote:
  
   Salam damai dan tenang selalu
  
 Terima kasih atas pertanyaannya yang baik dan mengena untuk
  sekarang ini.
 Saya akan jawab sbb;
 1. Indeks 2040 adalah bermain di daerah BORDER / PERBATASAN. 
Saya
  akan kupas dulu pengertian tentang BORDER ; BORDER adalah daerah
  rawan tempat Bandar membuang barang, tempat perang beneran untuk 
oper
  mengoper barang, tempat Bandar ganti posisi /
 ganti fund management / ganti supir pengendali market, ganti
  Bandar berikut tukang masaknya sekalian, Di sinilah tempatnya 
kalau
  indeks mau naik ya.. naik beneran, kalau mau turun ya... turun
  beneran. Betapa dahsyat dan hebatnya daerah BORDER. Itu sebabnya
  daerah ini menjadi daerah favorit untuk ngerjain investor.
 Di mana2 yang namanya daerah perbatasan negara selalu dijaga
  ketat, tempat keluar masuk rakyat, tempat berperang, bertempur,
  tempat berdarah2, tempat banyak korban,  tempat konflik, tempat 
adu
  kepentingan, tempat tidak mau saling mengalah, tempat adu gengsi.
 Nah...dengan pengertian yang begitu luas sekarang saya kupas.
  BORDER / PERBATASAN
 SERING JADI AJANG MEMBINGUNGKAN PASAR / INVESTOR. INI ARAHNYA 
MAU
  KEMANA ?
 Sekarang saya jelaskan sbb; Bila indeks 2040 dianggap sudah
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Idx down

2007-05-10 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
It looks going down furtherBEWARE MARGIN CALL
i'm waiting at idx 2001 for short covering, khususnya di TLKM



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sebetulnya saya setuju sih dgn pak Gitto kalo idx mau dijatuhin ya 
belum sekarang. Tapi kalo nge-short ada kesempatan kali tadi pagi?
   Saya masih melihat idx msh ke 2100, bahkan lebih (semoga) buat 
kita unload dulu sebelum nampung di bawah  Ah, bercanda.  
 
 gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 salam hangat,
 gitto kurniasanto
 
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 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Idx down
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bank Indonesia Cuts 1-Month Rate 25 Bps to 8.75%

2007-05-08 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hehehehe..

Good News already price in.. IDR strong, BI cut interest rate..

But MKT flat to lower ... Welcome to my party..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ihsg 88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No surprise to markets. Stocks have already reflected lastest rate 
cut in
 moves in previous week.
 Dow Jones Newsires





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa TLKM

2007-05-08 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Big Players can easily switch to any brokers he/she like.

Come on

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Shamjul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lihat file terlampir, dimana terlihat yg paling gencar jual TLKM 
ternyata
 rata-2 tidak punya stock, maksudnya mereka rata-2 net sell (data 
saya ambil
 sejak Jan-07 sampai hari ini).  Apa mereka short TLKM ? Cut Loss ? 
  
 Dan rata-2 mereka jual dengan harga rugi, contoh:
  
 BK beli rata-2 di 9959 jual rata-2 di 9689
 AK beli 9933 jual 9592
 KZ beli 9931 jual 9783
  
 Silahkan di analisa, dan mari kita cari peluang cuan untuk kita-2.
  
 Yang net buy tidak kelihatan jual akhir-2 ini, mereka adalah OD, 
YU, ML
  
 Yang Net buy yang biru dan Net sell yg merah.





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Selling force by foreign brokers may drag down JCI further

2007-05-08 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Saat ini mash bebas mengeluarkan pendapatkan? belom ada UU subversi 
di mailing list ini. 

Kalo nyangkut di atas contoh TLKM modalnya 10,500 (saya uda short 
sejak 10,600 setelah 1Q7 keluar) Mbok ya jgn marahin org lain. Come 
On... Grow Up Man!



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 bozz, kalau nulis datar saja jangan nyerang sana sini, bozz!
 itu khan view ibu bettina tan kalau salah yach jangan diserang 
teruz bozz
 mungkin pak laksono mungkin lebih tahu bisa nulis yang lebih berguna
 misalnya view bapak tentang suatu saham atau index
 khan lebih enak daripada bikin suasana jadi nggak enak
 regards
 
 On 5/9/07, laksono dwighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
pitty you
  ternyata memang gak tahu apa-apa...
  i would rather shut my mouth up than stating something that i 
don't know
  haha
 
  *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
   Foreign brokers is seen actively sold their position in TLKM and 
other
  blue chips. Last week the movement was covered by second liners, 
however
  this week 2nd liners upward movement is limited and JCI is seen 
to dragged
  down more.
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kemarin CPRO, skrg ASGR, trus MTDL,... bsk..

2007-04-30 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hehehe,
It seems that my BIG BEAR BROTHER will visit us sometime this week.

Welcome SOUTH BEAR!



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fei_lix22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 hati2 nih gw curiga, semua 2nd liner pada SKJ,jangan2 `the bear is 
 coming`, be-ware...





[obrolan-bandar] Re: What's wrong with my BMRI ????

2007-04-26 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
I'm with you James..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 level 3125 baru ngeSHORT
 
 On 4/26/07, Giri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Kalo digebukin, bukannya biasa ngeshort?
 
  :D
 
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:04 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI 
 
 
  bukan cuma BMRI, semua sektor banking masih mati suri jadi BMRI 
disuruh
  parkir dulu biar nggak overheat digebuk sama semua bandar sektor 
banking
 
  On 4/26/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken 
terus...
   What's wrong ???
  
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BMTR ???

2007-04-26 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Saya yg short bozz..

kemana aja...bozz?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pahala Baringbing [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 BMTR (Global Mediacom) di tanggal 23/04/07 masih 5000-an..
 keesokan harinya 24/04/07 diperdagangkan di harga 1000-an..dgn volume 
 144 juta lbr...
 
 Aneh sekali, kok gak disuspend ya?
 
 Apakah chart saya yg salah ya???
 
 Edan tenan... dari 5000 ke 1000...hanya dalam satu hari...
 ektrem banget... ini saham sakit apa saya yg gak tau apa2 ???
 
 mohon pencerahan dari para sesepuh...





[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA

2007-04-25 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Already Run Away? hehehe


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Mr Jammin...
 
 Remember your statement
 
 - Original Message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:04:08PM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I am holding PTBA very 
 tight.
 
 thanks.
 
 Hope u buy some 
 too.
 
  
 
  
 
 best regards,
 
  
 
 jam min
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
   - Original Message - 
 
   From: 
   Lee Cwan 
   Yeuw 
 
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
   
 
   Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:06
 
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
 
   
 
 
   
   
   
 
   Mr 
   Jammin...
 
 Although it's not my favorite
 
 don't sell your 
   PTBA
 
 
   - 
   Original Message 
 From: Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ gmail.com
 To: 
   obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Sent: 
   Tuesday, 24 April 2007 9:57:03AM
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA

2007-04-25 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
I Salut ama Om Lee.

Gw terpaksa Cover Short...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 PTBA = PeTa BAru
 
 You must remember.
 BMRI n ISAT are  part of my seven stars  
 
 - Original Message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 6:41:26PM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 No lah, I have my confident in 
 PTBA.
 
 Any comment for BMRI and ISAT?
 
 hehehe...
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
   - Original Message - 
 
   From: 
   mr.bearish_forever 
 
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
   
 
   Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 
   14:39
 
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
 
   
 
 
   
   Already Run Away? hehehe
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
   Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@  
 wrote:
 
  Mr 
   Jammin.. .
  
  Remember your statement
  
   
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] TINS and ANTM

2007-04-24 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Short
Tins , target 10,000 or even better back to 5000

ANTM, target 13,500 or even better 12,000 so the split will be 2,400 
(TINS price before extreme rally)

Good Luck and Happy Long Holiday for Japanese colleagues.
Hehehehe...





[obrolan-bandar] Re: JUST REMEMBER : PTBA=UNTR

2007-04-23 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Mr Lee, 
Please take my supply... if you can bring above 4000, I will be 
really happy.

Peace!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 After the price fly in the highyou will know
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Daniel Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2007 10:07:39AM
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] JUST REMEMBER : PTBA=UNTR
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Salam kenal, 
  
 
   
  
 
 Perkenalkan nama saya Daniel, baru saja
 bergabung dengan milis ini. salam kenal untuk semua member dan 
moderator. Sebelumnya
 saya mohon maaf kalo kadang2 mengajukan pertanyaan yang kurang 
berbobot, maklum
 masih newbie. 
  
 
 Btw saya ada pertanyaan, re: PTBA, is
 there any FA or TA behind the recommendation? 
  
 
   
  
 
 Many thx.
  
 
   
  
 
 
 
 Daniel Wong
  
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From:
 obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps.com] On Behalf Of Andri Wijaya
 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007
 10:00 AM
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] JUST
 REMEMBER : PTBA=UNTR
  
 
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 yang percaya ama Lee Cwan Yeuw dan gudang masih kosong
 buy PTBA, reward = 100%
  
 
 
 
 On 4/24/07, Lee Cwan
 Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
  wrote:
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Remember PTBA = UNTR
  
 
 
 
 - Original Message
 
 
 From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com;
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2007 9:06:18AM
 
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JUST REMEMBER : HARI INI CUM INCO
  
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Selasa Koreksi

2007-04-22 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Wah... Selasa minggu ini atau minggu depan.

Mau siap siap bantu SHORT ... hehehehe


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Johand Dimalouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 YUP, SELASA KOREKSI KE 2000 aja dulu. Koreksi yang lain biar 
dikerjakan sama GURU-GURU. Yg masih murid duduk manis yah!
 JD
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:37:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Selasa Koreksi
 
 There MAY be a MILD to HEAVY correction in the first week of May... 
not because of chart reading nor speculation, but the fact is that 
some of big foreign hedge funds will have their maturity due (while 
intl bonds issues in South Korea and Hong Kong are on, so fund 
swicthing would be) BUT, Hopefully this would be  just a 
theoritical 'PULL BACK on chart reading
 Anyway, I always feel that short trade isn't an unfair game and too 
speculative. ..but, any investment decision is on your call...
 Meanwhile, a minor correction on Wednesday or Thursday would take 
place but, won't necessarily hurt long term invetment management.. .
 disclaimer is heavily on...
 GBU, 
 cheers
 
 
 Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
 CMIIW...
  
 kita diskusi aja.. ilmu EW saya umurnya masih 2 bulan .. so.. 
kemungkinan besar salah.
  
 saya rasa corection wave 4 a-b-c sudah terjadi di hari kamis minggu 
lalu.. sekaligus dalam 1 hari.
 Lalu soal wave b.. apakah boleh wave b bikin new high.. koreksi kog 
new high.
  
 Saya sih sependapat bahwa koreksi dalam sedang menanti IHSG.. tapi 
saya yakin bukan minggu ini.. sampai akhir bulan April saya lihat 
bull all the way
 
  
 On 4/23/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote: 
 Saya nggak coba ngomporin tapi dari teori Elwave, setiap kenaikan 
dan keturunan ada polanya. Wave naik 1-2-3-4-5 dan turun a-b-c. Bila 
kemarin koreksi ke 1944 adalah merupakan wave a dilanjutkan dengan 
wave b, sekarang dimana wave c-nya sebelum pergerakannya menjadi 
impulse wave lagi. Jadwal IHSG bull nggak mesti hari ini atau besok 
kok karena kalau memang mau digerakkan gampang sekali kok untuk lari 
200-500 point setelah terjadi koreksi karena beban menjadi lebih 
ringan 
 
 
 On 4/23/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] com  wrote: 
 Sepertinya terlalu beresiko..
  
 Jadwal IHSG untuk bull sudah tidak banyak lagi.. kalau sampai 
disisipi waktu buat turun bisa kehabisan waktu.
  
 Lagipula laporan keuangan 1Q sudah menanti untuk keluar.. beberapa 
udah dapat bocoran.
  
 Terlalu beresiko untuk ambil posisi SELL/SHORT.. . apalagi buat 
model junior seperti saya ha..ha..
 
  
 On 4/22/07, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ gmail.com  wrote: 
 dow jones + 150an and sudah break high. sekali ini ogut rekomend 
BUY saja terutama buat ANTM reward sangat besar hampir 70% 
 base udah terbentuk hari kamis buat take off.
 BUY... BUY and NEVER SHORT
 I said this because Every body must be happy with my recommendation 
 kalau bilang SHORT ntar ada yang bilang gue pingsan again
 regards
 
 
 On 4/22/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com  wrote: 
 Dari sisi TA, kemungkinan besar Selasa market akan koreksi lagi 
untuk membentuk wave c dari wave 4. Bila Senin naik, siap2 untuk 
ngeshort. Seorang senior TA juga confirm dan dia akan mulai scanning 
untuk SHORT di hari Selasa. 
  
 Hati2 aja, besok level 2000 kalau tembusnya nggak kuat yah alamat 
turun lagi, target yah di bawah level kemarin. Silakan cek TA dari 
Elliot Wave kalau nggak percaya
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Welcome to the Party my Teddy Bears

2007-04-19 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Guys,
Several Things to Watch :
1. China GDP -- Economy Heat? -- Interest Rate Increase?
2. JPY strengthen against Dollar -- Another Carry Trade issue?
3. Politics -- Resuffle issue, Do SBY dare to fire Hamid, Yusril, 
Hatta, Bakrie ? 

Sell, Sell, Sell,





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Welcome to the Party my Teddy Bears

2007-04-19 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Yeah, I LOVE THIS Things.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 warning buat yang margin, jangan sampai kena margin call
 14.18 shanghai -5.85%, malam ini dow minus gede lagi
 mr bearish do you like this? he...
 regards
 
 On 4/19/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Guys,
  Several Things to Watch :
  1. China GDP -- Economy Heat? -- Interest Rate Increase?
  2. JPY strengthen against Dollar -- Another Carry Trade issue?
  3. Politics -- Resuffle issue, Do SBY dare to fire Hamid, Yusril,
  Hatta, Bakrie ?
 
  Sell, Sell, Sell,
 
   
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow mencetak rekor tertinggi baru (Sumber : IQPlus)

2007-04-19 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
James, I help you.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ok james
 
 please sell all of your stock today and short.
 if you only have 2000 lot...too little
 
 - Original Message 
 From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2007 2:58:59PM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow mencetak rekor tertinggi baru 
(Sumber : IQPlus)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 Lee,
 
  
 
 You are worried now ... cheers  tolong ANTM dinaikkan lagi biar 
saya short lagi ... hehehhe
 
  
 
 On 4/19/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Your ANTM is down..
 butmajority of the sellers are  domestic
 so... i am with you
 time to buy  .when  people worried
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ sinarmassekurita
 s.co.id
 To: samsudesyang@ sinarmassekuritas.co.id
 Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2007 9:04:50AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dow mencetak rekor tertinggi baru 
(Sumber : IQPlus)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 IQP, (19/4) - Indeks Dow Jones Industrial Averages (DJIA) 
 NYSE (New York Stock Exchange) pada perdagangan saham Rabu (18/4) 
 ditutup menguat 30,80 poin (0,24%) ke level 12.803,84, tertinggi 
 sejak 20 Februari 2007. Penguatan indeks Dow Jones itu dipicu oleh 
 
 kinerja sejumlah emiten selama kuartal pertama 2007 yang meningkat, 
 melebihi perkirakan para analis serta data ekonomi AS yang membaik.
 Kenaikan indeks Dow Jones ke level tertinggi baru itu antara lain 
 dipicu oleh kinerja JPMorgan Chase  Co selama kuartal pertama 
 
 2007. JPMorgan Chase  Co mencatat peningkatan laba bersih sebesar 
 55%, jauh di atas diperkirakan para analis.Indeks Standard  Poor's 
 500 (SP 500) juga naik 1,02 poin (0,07%) menjadi 1.472,50. 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: si Ke BOZZ

2007-04-18 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hehehe... watch TLKM and Mandiri

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 skenario ini sangat mungkin sekali, mengingat level sekarang bila 
ditembus
 maka top minimal adalah sekitar 250 point dari level breakoutnya, 
means
 1975+250 = 2225 maksimum. Ini target TA maksimum tapi yah itu 
jatuhnya juga
 sakit ...
 
 On 4/18/07, Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 ada skenario ke 3 : index ke 2250 ^^
 
 
  -Original Message-
  *From:* James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *Sent:* 18 April 2007 12:26
  *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] si Ke BOZZ
 
   saya lihat bozz mau jalanin skenario ke dua karena sudah 
kebanyakan yang
  phobia ketinggian kecuali Busur
 
  On 4/18/07, Karno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Si Ke BOZZ pandai bikin gambar / cerita
   1. Indeks dinaekin sampe 1990 atau 2000, pake gerak tepu-tepu, 
kemudian
   siram yang buanyak ke 1890/1900. *Tidak bisa dipungkiri 
indeks sudah
   cukup tinggi. *
   Investor pada nangis, BOZZ yg untung dari ngambil posisi short 
ketawa
   jahat.
   2. Indeks ditembus dengan kuat agar kepala 2 terjaga minimal 
sampe
   2030... *Cukup banyak trader yg sudah minggir karena phobia 
ketinggian*
   Walau bagaimanapun jika IHSG menembus ribuan baru akan 
menimbulkan efek
   psikologis yg bagus bagi pasar. Profit taking bisa nanti 
dilakukan
   sewaktu-waktu
   Cerita bisa aja dibikin-bikin/dihembuskan ke pasar untuk 
menambah
   heboh : reshufle, deviden, SBI, minyak etc etc..
  
  
   Kira-kira mana yang akan dipilih si BOZZ ?
   Ane sudah punya perkiraan sendiri, tapi kalau diutarakan  
bikin pooling
   di sini, si BOZZ  akan mempermalukan mayoritas anggota milis. 
(Kalo you
   percaya skenario 1,  BOZZ jalanin skenario 2, begitu juga 
sebaliknya)
  
  
   
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dg INCO ??

2007-04-18 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Bozz, Tumben ga SHORT , berubah jadi LONG nih..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 horee  indeks akan naik lagi ... see you all at the high ... 
IHSG will
 soon break 2000. ANTM will soon become 25000 (Sinarmas riset), INCO 
will be
 11 (conservative) - 20 (aggresive) dan TINS will become 
24000 as
 predicted by Bang Irwan
 
 See you all in the high
 
 
 On 4/18/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
hajar truz bozz
  index lagi distribusi, prepare yourselves
 
  On 4/18/07, Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  Apakah yield 7% (gross) kurang menarik utk company sekelas 
INCO ?
  
   Ada bbrp kemungkinan :
  
   - Bandar masih kurang muatannya
   - Ngusir lalat2 pengganggu makan siang
   - Ato emang produksi INCO bakal berkurang 1Q07 krn capacity 
damnya
   reduced.
  
   ANy comment is welcome.
  
   Salam Bonex
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dg INCO ??

2007-04-18 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hajar Bozz!!

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sekarang baru dapat barang buat supply INCO nih .. hehehhe ... yok 
ditekan
 rame2 mumpung lagi ada sentimen negatif nih ... tapi ingat setiap 
short INCO
 kudu pasang stop loss dan cover buy di target price. Bila harga 
break 58800
 maka target turun bisa ke 54000 kemudian 51500 dan mulailah periode 
bearish
 untuk sektor mining
 
 On 4/18/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Barang sudah habis ...
 
  On 4/18/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Bozz, Tumben ga SHORT , berubah jadi LONG nih..
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
   James Arifin
   james.arifin@ wrote:
   
horee  indeks akan naik lagi ... see you all at the 
high ...
   IHSG will
soon break 2000. ANTM will soon become 25000 (Sinarmas 
riset), INCO
   will be
11 (conservative) - 20 (aggresive) dan TINS will 
become
   24000 as
predicted by Bang Irwan
   
See you all in the high
   
   
On 4/18/07, Andri Wijaya  andri.wijaya@ wrote:

 hajar truz bozz
 index lagi distribusi, prepare yourselves

 On 4/18/07, Investor Bonex investorbonex@  wrote:
 
  Apakah yield 7% (gross) kurang menarik utk company 
sekelas
   INCO ?
 
  Ada bbrp kemungkinan :
 
  - Bandar masih kurang muatannya
  - Ngusir lalat2 pengganggu makan siang
  - Ato emang produksi INCO bakal berkurang 1Q07 krn 
capacity
   damnya
  reduced.
 
  ANy comment is welcome.
 
  Salam Bonex
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ASII

2007-04-18 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hehehehe... Meteor Rain

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 which stock do you refer to ? TLKM, BMRI or what? Seems you are 
desperate
 that your seven star and other seven being shorter by market maker
 
 On 4/18/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Mr. Bear
 
  Don't short this stock.
 
  It will be Rp 21.000
 
  - Original Message 
  From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2007 2:31:48PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: si Ke BOZZ
 
   Hehehe... watch TLKM and Mandiri
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  James Arifin
  james.arifin@ ... wrote:
  
   skenario ini sangat mungkin sekali, mengingat level sekarang 
bila
  ditembus
   maka top minimal adalah sekitar 250 point dari level 
breakoutnya,
  means
   1975+250 = 2225 maksimum. Ini target TA maksimum tapi yah itu
  jatuhnya juga
   sakit ...
  
   On 4/18/07, Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ... wrote:
   
ada skenario ke 3 : index ke 2250 ^^
   
   
-Original Message-
*From:* James Arifin [mailto:james. arifin@ .]
*Sent:* 18 April 2007 12:26
*To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] si Ke BOZZ
   
saya lihat bozz mau jalanin skenario ke dua karena sudah
  kebanyakan yang
phobia ketinggian kecuali Busur
   
On 4/18/07, Karno karno.edy@ .. wrote:

 Si Ke BOZZ pandai bikin gambar / cerita
 1. Indeks dinaekin sampe 1990 atau 2000, pake gerak tepu-
tepu,
  kemudian
 siram yang buanyak ke 1890/1900. *Tidak bisa dipungkiri
  indeks sudah
 cukup tinggi. *
 Investor pada nangis, BOZZ yg untung dari ngambil posisi 
short
  ketawa
 jahat.
 2. Indeks ditembus dengan kuat agar kepala 2 terjaga minimal
  sampe
 2030... *Cukup banyak trader yg sudah minggir karena phobia
  ketinggian*
 Walau bagaimanapun jika IHSG menembus ribuan baru akan
  menimbulkan efek
 psikologis yg bagus bagi pasar. Profit taking bisa nanti
  dilakukan
 sewaktu-waktu
 Cerita bisa aja dibikin-bikin/ dihembuskan ke pasar untuk
  menambah
 heboh : reshufle, deviden, SBI, minyak etc etc..


 Kira-kira mana yang akan dipilih si BOZZ ?
 Ane sudah punya perkiraan sendiri, tapi kalau diutarakan 
  bikin pooling
 di sini, si BOZZ akan mempermalukan mayoritas anggota milis.
  (Kalo you
 percaya skenario 1, BOZZ jalanin skenario 2, begitu juga
  sebaliknya)


   
   
  
 
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dg INCO ??

2007-04-18 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Bozz, jangan ampe jual rumah segala... 

Mobil boleh dijual deh. ntar beli baru lagi, spy Astra diuntungkan 
dan bisa terbang ke 20 ribu.. hahahaha


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Boen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 hajar aja terus sampe pingsan sekalian,   hajar terus
 INCO  ANTM ... siapin fulus yang gede ... kalau perlu jual semua
 rumah, mobil, sawah,   buat nampungin di bawah..
 yang penting jangan salah langkah saja.
 
 mr.boen
 
 
 
 
 On 4/19/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Sepertinya saya mesti gitu deh pak, setuju. Saya sebetulnya 
pengen tahu
  aja, tapi memang tdk akan berbuat apa2 krn saya long term. Thanks!
 
  Salam,
  Rei
 
 
  *James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
   Nggak usah bingung dan keriting pak, kalau anda investor 
mestinya anda
  nggak lihat monitor tiap hari dan tiap menit, beli dan simpan di 
bawa tidur
  dan 1 tahun lagi bangun.
 
  On 4/19/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
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Apakah kalian
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yang perlu
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an saya.
   mohon petunjuk.
  
   salam,
   Rei
  
  
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dikit?
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Yg optimis BELANJA donk...right Mr Lee ?

Jangan ikutan Short ya...

Hehehehe

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bila malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan
 bertahan??? Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, 
INCO,
 TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang 
membuat
 market top dengan membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan 
segera ke
 2000.
 
 Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng 
dan
 Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.
 
 Regards,
 Arifin





[obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Nice comments,

If investors only follow the big bulls, then you will loose your best 
oportunity to lock the profit, when the bull berak. You better be 
contrarian, whereas you sell whenever market is at new high and buy 
back whenever market is in deep deep lower correction. 
SHORT AT HIGH BUY AT LOW

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold 
vast amount
 of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my 
part ...
 gezzz ...
 
 Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
 Top of INCO : 64000
 Top of TINS : 14650
 
 I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few days. 
Now, big
 players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market is 
not like
 DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it from 
May 2005
 where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best 
time to
 offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be time 
for entry
 for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the market.
 
 So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach new 
high as
 recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
 
  In bullish market...
  Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
  And  don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, 
BDMN,PTBA)
 
  ok.
 
  if you believe me .
 
  please do it
 
  - Original Message 
  From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share
  (per 8 Maret 2007)
 
   Not Today..
 
  When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this stocks.
 
  May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
 
  Always Take Profit!
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ 
  wrote:
  
   Thank's for your ANTM research.
   My TP is US$ 2.
  
   Your TP is Rp 24.600,-
  
   Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
   and 24.600 not more than 12 months
  
  
   - Original Message 
   From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
   To: samsudesyang@ ...
   Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share
  (per 8 Maret 2007)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Best Regards,
  
  
  
   SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
  
   (http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
  
   RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
  
  
  
   PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Saya ketik Bozz, jadi memang mulutnya diem.

hardcrash...-50 dlm 5 hari berturut2? hehehe -70 dlm sehari aja udah 
pada lari..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bearish sucks 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mending pake bhs indonesia pak, daripada pake bhs inggris yang 
blepotan...
   kalau berani ngomong gini berarti bapak mainnya sehari diatas 50 
bio ya pak..?
   tapi kalau cuma 500 juta ampe 10 bio mendingan diem...
   hard crash..? gak laah...makanya indeks bakal ada yang melukis 
ampe diatas 2020..., jadi kalau ada hardcrash 50-60 point dalam 5 
hari indeks tetap sehat diatas 1900...
   ok pa...? 
   damai ah...
 
 mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Nice comments,
 
 If investors only follow the big bulls, then you will loose your 
best 
 oportunity to lock the profit, when the bull berak. You better be 
 contrarian, whereas you sell whenever market is at new high and buy 
 back whenever market is in deep deep lower correction. 
 SHORT AT HIGH BUY AT LOW
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
 james.arifin@ wrote:
 
  Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold 
 vast amount
  of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my 
 part ...
  gezzz ...
  
  Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
  Top of INCO : 64000
  Top of TINS : 14650
  
  I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few 
days. 
 Now, big
  players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market 
is 
 not like
  DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it 
from 
 May 2005
  where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best 
 time to
  offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be time 
 for entry
  for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the market.
  
  So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach 
new 
 high as
  recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  
  On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ wrote:
  
   May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
  
   In bullish market...
   Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
   And don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, 
 BDMN,PTBA)
  
   ok.
  
   if you believe me .
  
   please do it
  
   - Original Message 
   From: mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
 2++/share
   (per 8 Maret 2007)
  
   Not Today..
  
   When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this 
stocks.
  
   May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
  
   Always Take Profit!
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,
   Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ 
   wrote:
   
Thank's for your ANTM research.
My TP is US$ 2.
   
Your TP is Rp 24.600,-
   
Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
and 24.600 not more than 12 months
   
   
- Original Message 
From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
To: samsudesyang@ ...
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
 2++/share
   (per 8 Maret 2007)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Best Regards,
   
   
   
SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
   
(http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
   
RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
   
   
   
PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS
   
GEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA III
   
Jl.M.H.Thamrin No.51
   
Telp : 62-21-3925550 ext.159
   
Fax : 62-21-3925579
   
   
   
DISCLAIMER :
   
This material is issued by PT Sinarmas Sekuritas, a member of 
 the
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and Surabaya Stock Exchanges, represent the opinion of PT 
 Sinarmas
   
Sekuritas, derived its judgement from sources deemed reliable,
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Sinarmas Sekuritas and its affiliated cannot guarantee its 
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completeness. PT Sinarmas Sekuritas or its affiliates may be
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Kalo indeks cuma 2020 berarti tinggal 2.8% upsidenya. Kalo yang 
invest dari awal maret indeks lagi 1740, sekarang udah enjoy 13% 
dalam 1.5 bulan atau 104% annually. Apa ngga cukup happy kalo lock 
the profit? expect kalo kita rakus. well it's a choice. Unload 
dulu half of it, then save it under the pillow. somewhere between now 
till end of the year, any correction below today's index adalah 
waktunya average down. kalo naik. ngga turun-turun gw msh ada 
separo. he he he

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, mr.bearish_forever 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saya ketik Bozz, jadi memang mulutnya diem.
 
 hardcrash...-50 dlm 5 hari berturut2? hehehe -70 dlm sehari aja 
udah 
 pada lari..
  

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bearish sucks 
 i_kick_mrbearish@ wrote:
 
  mending pake bhs indonesia pak, daripada pake bhs inggris yang 
 blepotan...
kalau berani ngomong gini berarti bapak mainnya sehari diatas 
50 
 bio ya pak..?
tapi kalau cuma 500 juta ampe 10 bio mendingan diem...
hard crash..? gak laah...makanya indeks bakal ada yang melukis 
 ampe diatas 2020..., jadi kalau ada hardcrash 50-60 point dalam 5 
 hari indeks tetap sehat diatas 1900...
ok pa...? 
damai ah...
  
  mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@ wrote:
Nice comments,
  
  If investors only follow the big bulls, then you will loose your 
 best 
  oportunity to lock the profit, when the bull berak. You better 
be 
  contrarian, whereas you sell whenever market is at new high and 
buy 
  back whenever market is in deep deep lower correction. 
  SHORT AT HIGH BUY AT LOW
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
  james.arifin@ wrote:
  
   Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold 
  vast amount
   of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my 
  part ...
   gezzz ...
   
   Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
   Top of INCO : 64000
   Top of TINS : 14650
   
   I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few 
 days. 
  Now, big
   players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market 
 is 
  not like
   DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it 
 from 
  May 2005
   where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best 
  time to
   offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be 
time 
  for entry
   for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the 
market.
   
   So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach 
 new 
  high as
   recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.
   
   
   Regards,
   
   
   On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ wrote:
   
May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
   
In bullish market...
Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
And don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, 
  BDMN,PTBA)
   
ok.
   
if you believe me .
   
please do it
   
- Original Message 
From: mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
  2++/share
(per 8 Maret 2007)
   
Not Today..
   
When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this 
 stocks.
   
May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
   
Always Take Profit!
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
  40yahoogroups.com,
Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ 
wrote:

 Thank's for your ANTM research.
 My TP is US$ 2.

 Your TP is Rp 24.600,-

 Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
 and 24.600 not more than 12 months


 - Original Message 
 From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
 To: samsudesyang@ ...
 Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
  2++/share
(per 8 Maret 2007)

















 Best Regards,



 SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG

 (http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)

 RESEARCH DEPARTMENT



 PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS

 GEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA III

 Jl.M.H.Thamrin No.51

 Telp : 62-21-3925550 ext.159

 Fax : 62-21-3925579



 DISCLAIMER :

 This material is issued by PT Sinarmas Sekuritas, a member 
of 
  the
Jakarta

 and Surabaya Stock Exchanges, represent the opinion of PT 
  Sinarmas

 Sekuritas, derived its judgement from sources deemed 
reliable,
however, PT

 Sinarmas Sekuritas and its affiliated cannot guarantee its 
  accuracy
and

 completeness. PT Sinarmas Sekuritas or its affiliates may be
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 2++/share (per 8 Maret 2007)

2007-04-16 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Not Today..

When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this stocks.

May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?

Always Take Profit!

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Thank's for your ANTM research.
 My TP is US$ 2.
 
 Your TP is  Rp 24.600,-
 
 Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
 and 24.600 not more than 12 months
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 2++/share 
(per 8 Maret 2007)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 
 
 SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
 
 (http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
 
 RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
 
 
 
 PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS
 
 GEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA III
 
 Jl.M.H.Thamrin No.51
 
 Telp  : 62-21-3925550 ext.159
 
 Fax   : 62-21-3925579
 
 
 
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Jakarta
 
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however, PT
 
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and
 
 completeness. PT Sinarmas Sekuritas or its affiliates may be 
involved in
 
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banking
 
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material. PT
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-16 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Hehehehe..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
 
 In bullish market...
 Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
 And  don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, BDMN,PTBA) 
 
 ok.
 
 if you believe me .
 
 please do it
 
 - Original Message 
 From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share (per 8 Maret 2007)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 Not Today..
 
 
 
 When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this stocks.
 
 
 
 May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
 
 
 
 Always Take Profit!
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@  
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Thank's for your ANTM research.
 
  My TP is US$ 2.
 
  
 
  Your TP is  Rp 24.600,-
 
  
 
  Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
 
  and 24.600 not more than 12 months
 
  
 
  
 
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  To: samsudesyang@ ...
 
  Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
 
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share 
 
 (per 8 Maret 2007)
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA

2007-04-13 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Aiyoo

Masa sih ke Tujuh ribu?? Mendingan masuk BUMI denk, asetnya kan lebih 
gede daripada Petak Baru..

Short Baby ! Short!


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Jammin...
 
 You bought PTBA yesterday
 
 Don't sell today or you will buy after the price = UNTR.
  
 
 - Original Message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 13 April 2007 10:59:39AM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks a lot Mr. Lee
 
  
 
 jm
 
  
 
 
   - Original Message - 
 
   From: 
   Lee Cwan 
   Yeuw 
 
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
   
 
   Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 
 15:41
 
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
 
   
 
 
   
   
   
 
   PTBA 
   needs foreign players
 
 you can collect PTBA
 
 Some of my friend 
   collect too
 
 wait until the real - big- foreigners come.
 
 I 
   believe ... they will come...
 
 I am an investor, not speculator 
   
 
 be patience
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell

2007-04-11 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Saya dukung dan supply trus..(Take Profit)
Tapi bukan Naked Short Selling Om, salah salah bisa melarikan diri 
spt Leo 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 bang, sudah biasa rugi kok ... kalau semua long khan nggak ada yang 
supply
 barang
 
 On 4/11/07, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hehee koq ditawar terus sih.. kemaren 12rb short, 14rb short, 
15500 pun jg
  short, skr dinaekin lagi..
  coba kemaren dari 12rb long.. udah hemat brp kali fee tuh pak?
 
  kl nanti ternyata tutup di 15700 spt yg sampeyan bilang, apakah 
itu
  termasuk kategori april mop?
 
  On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:41:48 +0700, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   kalau Bozz berani narik ANTM ke level 685% FIBO tanpa ada 
koreksi, maka
   memang anda benar2 akan buat history di dunia persahaman dan 
akan masuk
   sebagai salah satu stock yang bisa lari hingga menembus level 
423%
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Now!! Time to Short Sell - sekedar tips

2007-04-11 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Gw bantu supply barang...(Take Profit)
Tapi kok dilawan ya hari ini .. ga apa apa lah.. yg penting jualan 
laku keras..



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andri Wijaya[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 4/11/07 8:39:02 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell - sekedar tips
 
 wise, mr boyz
 tambahan sekedar tip short selling :
 a. sekadar latihan buat short, mulai dari barang sendiri dan 
lihat result,
 sesudah short harus cover dimana
 b. kalau nggak punya barang, latihan short one day mulai dari 
lot yang kecil
 saja (1 - 5 lot)
 c. kalau sudah dapat sekuritas yang bisa 1-2 minggu ngSHORT  
dan skill short
 udah ok jumlah lot bisa dinaikkan
 kalau anda tahu ada sekuritas yang menyediakan short selling 1-
2 minggu,
 mungkinkah anda memberitahukan kepada semua orang yang ada di 
millis ini
 mungkin hampir 2rb orang? mungkin itu alasan pak james nggak 
mau kasih tau
 regards
 
 On 4/11/07, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 hehehe ... :-)
 
  lucu juga sih liat milis belakangan ini.
  control your emotion, please.
  gak usah lah saling menyerang dan bikin suasana makin PANAS.
 
  saya sih gak memihak,
  tapi seingat saya, Mr. FS juga dulu sering share postingan2 
yang berguna.
  gak tau deh kenapa belakangan ini agak2 pelit, hehehe 
 
 
  untuk Short-Selling,
  sebenarnya gak terlalu susah juga untuk nge-short selama 
sebulan ...
  bahkan bisa lebih .
 
  Bull Shit ???  . ah nggak juga 
 
  caranya?   salah satunya REPO
  (tapi hanya bisa dilakukan oleh BigFunds seperti Institusi 
dan Very
  BigPlayer)
 
  kalau ada pemain besar tapi gak ngerti caranya ...
  hehehe... kebangetan deh
 
  untuk pemain kecil dan menengah ,
  bisa menggunakan fasilitas LendingBorrowing di sekuritas 
tertentu.
  (coba anda hunting  ke sekuritas2 besar dan tanyakan apakah 
ada fasilitas
  tsb.)
  tapi biasanya hanya untuk jangka pendek(1-2 minggu) dan 
volumenya tidak
  besar,
  terbatas untuk nasabah tertentu dan juga variasi sahamnya 
biasanya
  sedikit.
 
  bagi saya cukup beralasan mr.james gak mau kasih tau
  sekuritas mana yg menyediakan fasilitas tsb,
  karena mungkin dia khawatir kehilangan competitive advantage-
nya.
  hehehe ...
 
  salam,
 
 
  Mr. Boen wrote:
 
  My opinion ( tanpa bermaksud berpihak sama sekali ) hanya 
supaya seimbang
  aja hehehe ...
 
  Banyak kritikus yang pura - pura pemain besar  but nothing at 
all
  hehehehe ..
 
  cuma bisa kritik tapi tidak pernah memberikan pengetahuan di 
milis ini
 
  giliran ada yang memberikan ilmu / pengetahuan langsung 
bisanya kritik ..
  Iri kali yach ?
 
  apa pernah Mr. FS memberikan input atau saran di milis ini ??
 
  jangan - jangan cuma Om Do   :))
 
  ya nama nya milis ya semua orang berhak memberikan saran dan 
input.
 
  mau diterima atau gak ya terserah masing masing, analisa 
masing masing
  dong !!
 
  kalau saya sih yang penting ada pengetahuan yang dishare 
kan ..,, jangan
  pelit kyk Mr. FS
 
  Ayo Mr. FS mana kemampuan dan analisis anda , kok tidak 
pernah ditulis ?
 
 
  mr.boen
 
 
 
 
 
   On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 nice one vic..
   hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehethis milist is getting 
funier and
   absurd..
  
   **
  
 

 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell

2007-04-10 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Wow bisa bearish 1 bulan? Dimana tuh?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Java Weka [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I second that. follow this conversation closely yet no straight 
direction
 seen, please info :)
 
 On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a 
one-month
  short sell
  desperately curioushehehehe
 
  *James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
   hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting 
then there
  is time for correction and do you want to dive with the 
correction wave or
  do you want to ride it? It's your choice
 
  On 4/10/07, Mr. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Just remember:
  
   Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered
  
   another one:
  
   Never short sell on valuations!! Do not short sell just 
because you
   think the price of such a security is too high, based on 
valuation. Stocks
   that are expensive tends to get more expensive, some investment 
manager
   somewhere is just gonna crush you with their buying, so you 
would never have
   time to buy back in cheaper. - Jim Cramer Real Money
  
   example: TINS.JK
  
  
   *hadizhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
  
Terima kasih untuk rekomendasi short selling yang disampaikan 
pak
   James. Kalau saja banyak dari kita-kita ini bisa menjalankan
   rekomendasi tersebut dalam prakteknya. Namun apa daya, fasilitas
   untuk short selling tak punya. Yang menjadi kendala bagi 
sebagian
   kita-kita ini (saya :-)adalah bagaimana menemukan sekuritas yang
   memberikan fasilitas short selling, bisa seminggu saja sudah 
cukup,
   apalagi yang bisa satu bulan. Adakah syarat-syarat tertentu, 
misalnya
   besar permodalan, kedekatan hubungan (dengan sekuritas), dll 
agar
   bisa mendapat fasilitas short selling. Kalau sekiranya berkenan,
   bolehlah kiranya pak James atau para sesepuh lainnya memberikan
   petunjuk sekuritas mana yang memberi fasilitas short selling, 
serta
   persyaratannya apa saja, Apakah ada sekuritas online seperti 
etrading
   dll yang memberikan fasilitas short selling ini. Dengan adanya
   informasi ini, harapannya adalah kita-kita tidak sekedar melongo
   mendengar anjuran pak James, melainkan bisa ikut nyemplung 
berenang
   bersama pak James.
  
   Terima kasih untuk petunjuknya sekecil apapun petunjuk itu.
  
   Hadi
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
   balifade balifade@
   wrote:
   
---saya tidak jarang short pagi, menjelang siang harga dah 
turun
dikit tapi jelang penutupan harga naik tinggi, terpaksa deh 
bb eh
besok paginya hrga turun banyak. kalo short bisa 1 bln asik 
bgt
   tuh,
gimana bung james dan sesepuh2 bagi ilmunya dong.thx
   
   
In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
   Susanto Winarto
susanto_winarto@ wrote:

 Pak James,

 Short sell itu, menurut saya lebih beasr untung2an-nya
   dibanding
analisanya kali yah?
 Kadang harga sudah terlalu tinggi, tapi tetep aja naik 
terus
 Kadang udah naik, sorenya jadi minus...
 Mohon pencerahannya pak...
 Thanks.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Boen
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell


 berat dech bang rasanya ...

 any way, saya kayaknya mesti banyak belajar dulu nih .





 On 4/9/07, James Arifin  james.arifin@ wrote:

 Rekomendasi saya bisa saja salah, contohnya ANTM hari ini
   balik
dan harusnya siapa saja yang short sell di bawah 14000 harus 
pasang
cut loss di 14050-14100, sehingga implikasi dari berbaliknya 
market
dari analisa TA tetap terantisipasi. Next level untuk short 
ANTM di
15500 kalau tercapai, silakan test short sell lagi tapi ingat 
stop
loss dan don't be greedy kalau sudah turun jangan ingin untung
   gede2
karena market overall masih bullish dan short sell saat ini 
hanya
untuk mengikuti pergerakan market saja ...

 Semoga bermanfaat.


 On 4/9/07, Bambang S bangsur@ wrote:
 saya sudah coba cuma 2 lot seh di tins jual kamis
 kemarin di 12 850 td pagi beli lagi 12350 mayan
 kan...buat coba2 aja ko

 --- Giri  giriacckl@ wrote:

  Memang sih bebas dan suka2. Short sell di saat pasar
  bullish ini beresiko sangat tinggi kecuali ilmunya
  sudah tinggi.
 
  Dan untuk bulan April ini, LKQ1 07 akan keluar. IHSG
  baru break new high. Bila ada yang berani short
  sell, silahkan saja...
 
  Selamat mencoba, semoga Oentung
 
  peace
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Johand Dimalouw
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:14 AM
  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell

2007-04-10 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Gw bantu Short dgn barang sendiri...

Ayo Bozz kalo nekad kalahkan kita para shorter2 (regional merah 
berdarah)

Hehehehe ^^ (80% harusnya market merah)
 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BOZZ mau langgar semua pakem TA .. even fibo 426.4% ditembus, 
semoga bisa
 kuat aja nahan terus2 di atas FIBO itu .. hehhehe ... semoga modal 
bozz
 masih banyak yah
 
 On 4/11/07, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
On 4/11/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]james.arifin%
40gmail.com
  wrote:
   Kebanyakan orang berharap bisa belajar short sell dengan barang 
orang,
  untuk latihan saya sarankan latihan dulu short sell dengan barang 
sendiri,
  kemudian setelah emosi dan mental anda stabil baru cari sekuritas 
yang bisa
  short sell untuk short term (1 minggu s/d 1 bulan). Jangan 
terlalu buru2 pak
  belajarnya ...
  
   ANTM harusnya bisa dishort sell di level +/- 15500. Kalau level 
ini
  ditembus juga ... hehehhe ... gue ngaku Bozz benar2 hebat dan 
berani ...
  salut untuk anda
 
  Sadis nih ANTM, 15500 nya udah tembus tuh pak, barusan sempat 
15950,
  gile-gile...ngeri ngeshort kalo gini, bisa cut loss mulu jadinya
  
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell

2007-04-10 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Oh... gitu toh.

Salah istilah..

Jadi Take Profit selama sebulan. Jualnya kecil kecil setiap hari.. 
(maaf ikan teri, soalnya ikan cere ga ada)

Kalau spt ini sekuritas manapun bisa Om..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 hahahahahahahahahhahah
 ikan cere mau ngelawan ikan paus hahahah
 kalo jualan barang sendiri itu bukan ngeshort donk, itu tp. namanya
 juga short sell, jualan kagak punya barang.
 banyak yg omdo ngeshort hahahaha
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har Rudi.Har@ wrote:
 
  On 4/11/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ wrote:
   Kebanyakan orang berharap bisa belajar short sell dengan barang
 orang, untuk latihan saya sarankan latihan dulu short sell dengan
 barang sendiri, kemudian setelah emosi dan mental anda stabil baru
 cari sekuritas yang bisa short sell untuk short term (1 minggu s/d 1
 bulan). Jangan terlalu buru2 pak belajarnya ...
  
   ANTM harusnya bisa dishort sell di level +/- 15500. Kalau level
 ini ditembus juga ... hehehhe ... gue ngaku Bozz benar2 hebat dan
 berani ... salut untuk anda
  
  
  Sadis nih ANTM, 15500 nya udah tembus tuh pak, barusan sempat 
15950,
  gile-gile...ngeri ngeshort kalo gini, bisa cut loss mulu jadinya
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: BNGA : SHORT DI IDR 850

2007-04-09 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
840 Juga uda di SHORT!

Pokoknya Jualan Trus! 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gitto kurniasanto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 pertama2 jangan di marah2in kayak pak james yak...kalo nyang mao 
nyoba2 ngesot. coba bnga di 850...dengan titik CL di 860/70-sebelum 
terjadi malapetaka- dengan target buy di 800/790 .risk:reward 1:5. 
mayanlah
 
 salam hangat,
 gitto kurniasanto





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bank Indonesia Keeps Interest Rate Unchanged At 9.00%

2007-04-05 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
WHATEVER YOU SAY, SELL AND MAKE PROFIT. Recent stock gains is 
considerably to fast compared to major regional indexes, while JSX is 
only small cap compared to MSCI global index. Thus, once hedge funds 
have filled their investment allocations (which is small!), they 
won't add and wait until the time to exit. So far, infow foreign 
funds have reach over 1 trillion net buying. So, any catalyst to 
drive it up WATCHOU Bro.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well. the main index trend line is still heading to 1940-
1960... a minor pull back should not necessarily drive it back to 
1700come on
   safe trade...
   
 
 edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Soalnya, Ada kemungkinan bulan bulan berikutnya bunga 
malah Naik..
 krn kenaikan harga BBM industri.
 
 Kalo BI PD, ya cut donk, at least 0.125% . ga usah 0.25%
 
 Ini malah di HOLD..
 
 Boss uda kabur dari kemarin..? Kan embah warning 1930 highest..
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, gitto kurniasanto 
 gittokurniasanto@ wrote:
 
  lho pak koq SELL ON NEWS ?? nanti kalo dah ijo2 lagi pada 
 bingung..minta diguyur^^... duuuh si boss lagi baik hati sebaiknya 
 kita MANFAATKAN dengan baik...
  
  salam hangat,
  gitto kurniasanto
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  SELL on NEWS 
  
  No Catalyst, Bad Sentiment..
  
  BI ga PD keliatannya, LOCK PROFIT!
  
  Indeks mudah mudahan anjlok lagi ke level 1700 an
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ihsg 88 ihsg88@ wrote:
  
   Awas panic selling!!
   
   
   
   
   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bank Indonesia Keeps Interest Rate Unchanged At 9.00%

2007-04-05 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Dear brother, koq you percaya kalo index will touch range 1950 or 
even 2000? is there any chart heading to that line? do you believe 
index will follow chart line or it should follow its own fundamental? 
fundamental wise said that almost all blue chips stocks have almost 
reach its 12 month target price, which rom now is considerably 8 
months left to go.Can you predict the rest of 8 month? If you happy 
with 5% discount to its TP or 5% discount over 2000 JSX target (which 
is current index level) then SELL YOUR PORTFOLIO, move it into other 
safer investment, wait for deep correction, like 1820? good CALL.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 no much upside tough .. 60 point is very limited cause with TLKM 
and BMRI
 ... it could hike up IHSG to chase that target ... better to drop 
it first
 to 1820 ... and give upside of 140 point
 
 On 4/5/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
WHATEVER YOU SAY, SELL AND MAKE PROFIT. Recent stock gains is
  considerably to fast compared to major regional indexes, while 
JSX is
  only small cap compared to MSCI global index. Thus, once hedge 
funds
  have filled their investment allocations (which is small!), they
  won't add and wait until the time to exit. So far, infow foreign
  funds have reach over 1 trillion net buying. So, any catalyst to
  drive it up WATCHOU Bro.
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Frederick Schubert
  pemainbesar@ wrote:
  
   well. the main index trend line is still heading to 1940-
  1960... a minor pull back should not necessarily drive it back to
  1700come on
   safe trade...
  
  
   edy1276 edy1276@ wrote:
   Soalnya, Ada kemungkinan bulan bulan berikutnya bunga
  malah Naik..
   krn kenaikan harga BBM industri.
  
   Kalo BI PD, ya cut donk, at least 0.125% . ga usah 0.25%
  
   Ini malah di HOLD..
  
   Boss uda kabur dari kemarin..? Kan embah warning 1930 highest..
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  gitto kurniasanto
   gittokurniasanto@ wrote:
   
lho pak koq SELL ON NEWS ?? nanti kalo dah ijo2 lagi pada
   bingung..minta diguyur^^... duuuh si boss lagi baik hati 
sebaiknya
   kita MANFAATKAN dengan baik...
   
salam hangat,
gitto kurniasanto
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SELL on NEWS
   
No Catalyst, Bad Sentiment..
   
BI ga PD keliatannya, LOCK PROFIT!
   
Indeks mudah mudahan anjlok lagi ke level 1700 an
   
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  ihsg 88 ihsg88@ wrote:

 Awas panic selling!!





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