[ob] Posting surplus.. delete --Milis sepi..
Ya mbah, saya juga kewalahan saking banyaknya posting..sayangnya banyak yg ga berarti at least buat saya. Jadi cara saya, sort berdasar pengirim di mailbox, dan saya pindahkan saja bbrp yg saya pikir isinya biasanya ok.. (contoh postingnya mbah selalu saya simpan). Sisanya delete langsung ga dibuka lg. Pegel liat kadang isinya cuman one liner : mis: Hahahaa..ha. Atau testing padahal yg nrima testing ribuan mailbox. salam, tanu --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Memang kedepan, embah mau menambah PORSI/BOBOT diskusi soal Investasi untuk mengimbangi Bobot trading yang sangat besar saat ini... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, lkm jkt lkmjkt@ wrote: Mbah. Kalau menuruti daftar dari mbah. Masalahnya ada kah saya punya kesabaran menunggunya . jadi mesti di lengkapi dengan ilmu , sabar X sabar X sabar X sabar. Gain nya sudah besar (diatas 20% ) dan masih besar potensi untuk UP . Rasanya ini mainannya investor. Salam Lukman 2010/3/30 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Grafik saham itu engga akan bohong kecuali saham gorengan... Grafik saham menunjukan: - Fundamental emiten - Prospek bisnis emiten kedepan Kalo fundamentalnya ngambang tentunya BD senang NGERJAIN trader yang main saham tsb. Coba tunjukan saham yang ROEnya dan Profit growthnya tinggi yg dikerjain ?. Coba hitung BETAPA TINGGI naiknya saham saham YG BAIK dibawah ini: - dipaling kanan ada harga saham tsb per 6/11/09, jadi anda bisa hitung berapa persen naiknya sampai hari ini. - http://www.investdata.net/QZ93ALL6.TXT Investasi itu SIMPLE dan PROFITABLE, jangan dibikin rumit...hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dwianto_fhui@ wrote: Bagus untk di kerjain mbah hehe Rule Number One: Never lose money. Rule Number Two: Never forget Rule Number One. -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:53:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Milis sepi.. --- Misi CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE Bagusnya apa Pak Halim ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tiger Roar boysngirls@ wrote: BUMI tuh mbah.. Sudah dikerjain setahun lebih. Padahal BUMI kan saham bagus. On 3/30/10, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: - BD itu NGERJAIN saham yg Fundamentalnya engga baik - TAPI BD itu mengangkat saham saham yg Fundamntalnya bagus dalam jangka panjang. - BD itu NGERJAIN saham yg baik dan yg buruk dalam JANGKA PENDEK - TAPI BD itu TIDAK sanggup ngerjain saham yg baik dalam JANGKA PANJANG. Coba anda tunjukan saham2 bagus yg BISA dikerjaian BD dalam jangka panjang ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, TimurLangit i4n05@ wrote: Excellence di bidang apa mBah? OB sepertinya telah menjadi bahan bacaan penting para Bandar untuk melakukan plan your trade, trade your plan. Semakin banyak yg kita diskusikan dengan detil di sini, semakin terkecoh kita oleh BD. Jika demikian adanya, makin lama, yg didiskusikan disini semakin tidak bisa dipakai sebagai rujukan untuk merencanakan trading. Kalau tidak bisa dipakai, ya nggak excellent lah namanya. Andaikan OB bisa mendeteksi BD yg jadi member OB, lalu mendiskualifikasikannya. Pastilah member OB pada cepat kaya raya Timur From: jsx-consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:31:16 PM Subject: RE: [ob] Milis sepi.. --- Misi CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE  Lebih baik sepi begini, lebih COMFORTABLE. ..  Embah sebenarnya BERUSAHA mengurangi jumlah posting dari 300 posting sehari menjadi 100 posting sehari, karena dengan jumlah posting sebanyak ini praktis embah sudah tidak sanggup membacanya..  Kedepan yang kita perlukan BUKAN kwantitas posting tapi KWALITAS posting, ini sesuai dengan misi menjadikan OB sebagai CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE bagi pelaku Pasar modal untuk 10 tahun kedepan.  Jadi usahakan mengirim posting yg Tidak Profesional seperti: - Target saham X 3000 TANPA menyebutkan alasan dan sumbernya - Kurangi sedapat mungkin yang OOT - Posting terimakasih, selamat ulang tahun dll sebaiknya dikirim langsung pada member ybs  Embah bercita cita menjadikan OB menjadi Sekolah saham VIRTUIL lewat internet/milis dan menelorkan Pelaku Pasar Modal yang berCaliber internasional sebelum embah keburu tua dan loyo...  Mudah mudahan, cita cita ini bisa terlaksana dengan dukungan anda semua
[ob] Re: ADHI
Wah pagi beli di 495, sore ngeliat lagi abis meeting tinggal 455.. volumenya gede banget.. Party is over? Pls any info.. ada yg bilang 510 dan game still on? Lalat ijo muda kejebak lilin gemerlap
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
ikutan 30 lot --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, icchanks iccha...@... wrote: I m in Jendral!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ wrote: 1-2 lot adalah bentuk perjuangan. no problem. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:04 PM Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I  tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah.. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM       Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  Ã                maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M  I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM àààà  Garis merah merupakan area nyopetââ¬Â¦.,àlet see om BD berani masuk daerah itu nggaââ¬Â¦,àsilahkan  Omââ¬Â¦Ã J  Ã JT  Ã  Ã Ã Ã Ã  Ã Ã Ã Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/       Akses email lebih cepat.  Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)                               Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + +
[ob] Re: ikut nimbrung bumi
Iya nih.. saya rasa 2400an deh hari ini, liat DJI anjlok gitu besar dan BUMI nyari utang lagi $500juta (aneh Komutnya bilang ga tau... opo toemon..) DB malah bilang bbrp hari lalu target pricenya Rp.1.100.- --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, swan silo swan_gro...@... wrote: yuuukk nungguin bumi di 2600 (garis merah)
Tidur lagii...[ob] Re: ADHI cuci piring gih
Betul pak, banyak keanehan yg kasar jelas rekayasa rekayasa.. klo udah gini BAPEPAM memble aja ngeliatin transaksi abnormal? Emang susah ya penegakan hukum dinegeri ini. Buat yg pegang ADHI ya..nyanyi ...tidur lagi sabar deh sampe bandar gelo nya iseng lagi. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@... wrote: Sy lihat - maennya sangar banget : o Bid2 (kiri) tebel2 - Offer2 (kanan) relatif lebih tipis2 o Tapi, harga makin tetep turun2 terus Tinggal yg beberes, nyapu ama cuci piring kotor..hehehe.. Bandarnya pindah ke Ciputra khek nya
[ob] Take profit DOID
Hati hati mudah mudahan udah pada safe semua member.. Take profit klu udah cuan..
Re: [ob] DEWA UDANG
Sigh.. ada aja yg nulis sembarangan spt ini. Supir Medan = pasti masuk jurang? Oii..ati ati bah.Horas Lae..mauliate godang lah .. hati2 jalan di depan banyak tikungan tajam, pilih supir yang jago nyupir, jangan pake supir medan ya, ntar malah masuk jurang.
Re: [ob] ES hit the nail was Salam Kenal
Hahahaha...ha. ES you hit the head right on the nails.. Tired actually trying to weed the junks best regards (one of the lurker (lazy to learn TA, FA, EA (ES analysis).. wants easy way of getting freebies of financial advises.) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Hello IAN nice to have you here. [?] Perhaps you knew already that OB is 95% a$$ kissers, stock junkies, fake players and opportunists that will take advantage of anyone especially from a nice guy like you. (yes, I'm talking about all replies above [?]) 5% are true experts. Again, welcome to OB. Elaine*
[ob] Primata ~ Re: [Ask I CHING]
Apa baiknya kita ke bagian Primata di Ragunan? Siapa tahu emang lebih baik. tanu --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ichingprediction wimanto...@... wrote: Ane pernah baca seekor monyet disuruh memilih sesuatu secara acak, hasilnya lebih baik dari orang yg mengunakan probalitas statistik
[obrolan-bandar] DJ naik 3%+, NASDAQ +4.41%
Stocks Shake Off Jobs Report to End With Big Gains http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-turn-higher-shake-off-apf-13759816\ .html - AP Wall Street has put an upbeat spin on the government's report that the nation lost more than half a million jobs last month. Stocks reversed early losses to finish sharply higher as the job numbers raise hopes that Washington will again step in to help the economy. Nasdaq http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EIXIC 1,509.31+63.75+4.41% http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EIXIC
[obrolan-bandar] Dow up again, 10% for week,biggest 5-day rally since 1932
Dow up again, 10% for week http://www.boston.com/business/markets/articles/2008/11/29/dow_up_again\ _10_for_week/ Index wraps biggest 5-day rally since 1932 despite likely grim reports ahead By Tim Paradis Associated Press / November 29, 2008 . .. It's the first time the Dow and the SP have risen for five consecutive sessions since July 2007, and the biggest percentage gain over five sessions since Aug. 8, 1932, for the Dow, and March 16, 1933, for the SP. The month of November wiped out $1 trillion of shareholder wealth, but the last five days gained $1.2 trillion, according to the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite index, which reflects the value of nearly all US stocks. . .
[obrolan-bandar] Dow Fut mentok daily limit
Breaking News Stocks Tumble, Yen Rallies on Economy; U.S. Futures Plunge by Daily Limit http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=auOWnyIl1o_0refer=\ home INDEXVALUECHANGEOPENHIGHLOWTIMEDJIA INDEX8,224.00-550.008,769.008,778.008,224.0006:28
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BREAKING NEWS : CTRP- Bandar Junior
Sudah segininyakah kita? Bagaimana kalau ayah atau kakek anda didoakan spt ini? Cobalah jangan sampai segitunya lah, mari kita adab dlm hidup ini bung. Mbah tlg di moderasi saja dulu anggota ini saya usulkan. terima kasih, tanu 2008/7/29 Bandar Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] Selamat jalan encek ciputra, cepatlah kau pergi, jadi CTRP akhirnya bisa naik Hor
[obrolan-bandar] Re: KKG on Fuel Price Hike...
Jadi ada yg bisa ngitung ga berapa COGS dan harga yang pantas utk BBM? Kayaknya dari dulu debat kusir soal ini ga abis abisnya. Dan ada yg pernah nulis (lupa dimana) bhw accounting system utk migas dibuat begitu kompleksnya shg auditor luar pun bingung. ... sayapun ragu kalau ada yg bisa sebenarnya ngitung berapa cost. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beliau nggak menguasai dunia perminyakan sehingga bingung sendiri.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: tanggapan DEWA? Think clearly.
Broker Buy Sell Broker Freq Vol Avg % Freq Vol Avg % Net KI 151 47,238 539.54 4.3159 2,275 497,556 537.84 45.4602 450,318 YJ 207 70,284 540.39 6.4216 109 20,839 533.76 1.9039 49,445 DH 237 52,797 536.50 4.8239 91 9,982 540.00 0.9120 42,815 YU 101 51,340 544.46 4.6907 74 14,920 540.95 1.3631 36,420 II 562 56,645 541.07 5.1754 147 22,198 529.93 2.0281 34,447 CC 182 45,575 534.18 4.1640 94 12,737 535.96 1.1637 32,838 LS 304 47,561 514.31 4.3455 147 18,170 544.15 1.6601 29,391 ML 25 26,000 570.00 2.3755 0 0 0.00 0. 26,000 OK 80 25,468 526.88 2.3269 14 1,325 510.71 0.1210 24,143 LK 57 24,058 538.77 2.1981 22 3,450 550.00 0.3152 20,608 PK 65 18,135 549.23 1.6569 34 2,055 520.29 0.1877 16,080 LG 344 57,290 544.04 5.2344 234 42,221 523.33 3.8576 15,069 NI 127 21,399 541.02 1.9551 104 7,440 533.37 0.6797 13,959
[obrolan-bandar] Re: SIPD
SIPD ohhh.. O) SIPD?? :) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: WATCHOUT - KIJA
Kalau liat polanya sih baru ntar Sincia ngasih angpao gopek. Saingan industrial area skrg ketat sekali, dan iklim investasi yg ga nunjang membuat jualan di KIJA susah betul. Ini secara fundamental tentu, entah kalau bandar kecil mau ngegoreng deh..syuukurr bisa dapat angpao in advance. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: timing yah kita serahkan ke bandarnya mau berbaik hati nggak kasih THR buat Lebaran kalau nggak berkenan kasih THR Lebaran yah semoga mau kasih dana buat Tahun Baruan On 8/30/07, bandar kecil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[obrolan-bandar] BS aja tuh..Re: ANTM : ML research (21 Aud 07) TP Rp 1422
ML mah bullshittt aja, artikel pesanan klien tuh. Liat fundamental di basemetal.com dan berita di Reuters, AFX. Stok kebutuhan nikel kekurangan 7700an tonnes Guru ekonomi di SMA dulu ngajarin fundamental gini: Kalau kebutuhan banyak dan asupan barang sedikit maka harga naik. Just as simple as that imho. Jadi baca artikel2 spt ML punya itu dng cautious sekali. Percaya pada diri sendiri lebih baik dari pada percaya nabi nabi karbitan kmlinter spt ML dan kawan kawan (incl. yg sebut dirinya pakar pakar dng display grafis cantik yg keliatan canggih) [Reuters] [height: 12px;] Print this article Close This Window UPDATE 6-Copper, lead and nickel end up on firm equities Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:22 PM BST (Updates with New York closing copper prices) By Daniel Magnowski and Anna Stablum LONDON, Aug 22 (Reuters) - Copper, lead and nickel futures rose on Wednesday as firm Chinese demand and higher share prices offset recent worries linked to turmoil in other financial markets, traders said. Benchmark copper futures at the London Metal Exchange MCU3 have closely tracked the volatile movements of stock markets recently. Copper MCU3 closed up 2.5 percent at $7,150 per tonne. Britain's leading FTSE share index .FTSE closed up 1.8 percent as upbeat results from BHP Billiton and firm metal prices lifted sentiment. In New York, most-active December copper HGZ7 settled up 5.75 cents, or 1.8 percent, to $3.2225 a lb on the New York Mercantile Exchange's COMEX division, its highest settlement since Aug. 15, after dealing in a session range between $3.1610 and $3.25. Metals have been taking their lead from stock markets for some time now, a dealer on the floor of the exchange said. I'm just not sure I believe the stock markets. I'm not sure the problems are over and everything is rosy again, he said. Lead MPB3, mainly used in batteries, rose to a high of $3,029, up 4.8 percent, as Chinese net exports fell in July from June and remained sharply down year-on-year. LME warehouse stocks fell to levels last seen in March 1990 at 26,675 tonnes, or just over one day of global consumption. Three-months lead closed $90 higher at $2,980 and steelmaking raw material nickel MNI3 was up $805 at $28,000 after rising 4.2 percent on Tuesday. Dealers said stainless steel mills had started to restock as prices had nearly halved from the record of $51,800 hit in May. We expect the three-month nickel price to remain weak in the third quarter but recover a little in the fourth quarter, averaging $28,300/t and $30,000/t respectively, analyst Daniel Smith at Standard Chartered said in a daily report. CHINA OFFSETS TURMOIL In the past two weeks, investors have sold metals futures for cash to cover losses in other assets stemming from a collapse in the U.S. high-risk home loan market. U.S. monetary policy makers have tried to soothe troubled financial markets with liquidity infusions and a 50-basis-point discount rate cut last week. It seems to me that the market doesn't believe that the discount rate cut alone is sufficient to restore confidence, Craton Capital commodities strategist Peter Richardson said. Traders took comfort from data showing world number one copper consumer China was still buying vast amounts of metal. China's refined copper imports in July were up almost 70 percent month-on-month at 98,489 tonnes, customs data showed. Month-on-month imports eased 9 percent. [ID:nBJB000353] The Chinese still have a tremendous appetite even if Western demand cools off, the LME dealer said. London-listed shares in BHP Billiton BHP.AXBLT.L, the world's biggest mining company, closed 4.7 percent higher after posting a 19 percent jump in second-half earning. The company's share prices have risen about 40 percent this year. [ID:nSYD116832] BHP did not expect recent market turmoil to have a big impact on demand for raw materials, particularly in China and India. Aluminium MAL3 was up $35 at $2,515 supported by comments from Alcoa Inc AA.N saying it would keep production at its 1.4 million tonne Jamalco alumina refinery in Jamaica shut while it assesses damage caused by Hurricane Dean.[ID:nN22436715] Tin MSN3 gained to $14,440 and zinc MZN3 was up $70 at $3,065 from Tuesday's close. The global zinc market was in surplus of 31,000 tonnes from January to June 2007, data from the International Lead and Zinc Study Group showed.[ID:nL22668239] Metal Prices at 1600 GMT: MetalLast Change Pct Move End 2006 Ytd Pct move LME Cu7135.00 160.00 +2.296330.00 12.72 SHFE Cu* 63010.00 290.00 +0.46 60080.00 4.88 LME Alum 2515.00 35.00 +1.412805.00-10.34 SHFE Alu*19320.00 90.00 +0.47 20550.00 -5.99 COMEX Cu** 322.707.75 +2.45 287.10 12.40 LME Zinc 3080.00 85.00 +2.844230.00-27.19 SHFE Zinc* 26545.00 10.00
[obrolan-bandar] Re: permintaan maaf , subject test
OK pak DS, permohonan maaf diterima tentu, dan turut senang mendengar permintaan maaf Anda utk semua dan pengertian perlunya utk thoughtfull di milis, dan ada kesadaran utk menghemat bandwidth internet Indonesia. Semoga kedepan kita smeua bermilis dng baik. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dodik SUDIYONO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear pak Tanu Jakaria mohon maaf sekiranya mengganggu para anggota milis dan pak Tanu, email saya dengan subject test, karena saya sedang mengoprek POP dan SMTP supaya lebih irit pulsa telepon. salam perkenalan -- Dodik Sudiyono
[obrolan-bandar] LSIP koq bantet ya?
Pak,Ibu, memperhatikan LSIP koq malah kaya adonan bantet, katanya mau ke bulan? Ada opini kenapa? Apa krn harga minyak bumi turun drastik jadi soal biodiesel udah mulai dingin ga menarik lagi? Liat AALI kan mercurial banget tuh naeknya. Dibanding UNSP (duh tapi ini bakrie) gimana any opinion? Tempo hari euphoria tipikal dikita sampe ke PINDAD aja ikutan bikin mesin olah biodiesel. Ini penyakit di kita, latahisme kale ya boss. tanu
[obrolan-bandar] PGAS - 5950
Edan naiknya banyak amat.. ya hari ini, senang aja sih masih holding. tj Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Try Online Currency Trading with GFT. Free 50K Demo. Trade 24 Hours. Commission-Free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/RvFikB/9M2KAA/U1CZAA/zMEolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Orang bijak jangan bayar pajak ~ Re: OOT- Soal memburu jumlah NPWP
Makasih atas semua komentarnya, tapi saya rasanya masih blm dapat penjelasan kalau pangsiunan kaya paman saya kudu harus mesti wajib kaga ya? Saya setuju kalau saja aparat pajak dan pemerintah jujur semua orang juga mau bayar pajak. Wong banditnya di sono semua. Lha wong contoh yg sederhana spt PJU (Penerangan jalan umum) yg dipungut dari setiap pelanggan PLN aja lampunya ga dikasih dan itu kita bayar tiap bulan. Coba berapa banyak dari kita kita yg pasang sendiri lampu penerangan jalan didepan rumah. Duitnya kemana? Walahu alam bin bisawab.. Contoh lain: yg baru ini rame di koran soal Jamsostek. Ini kejadian dialami salah satu senior juga dikantor. Beliau ikutan sejak ASTEK dimulai dan kemarin ini pangsiun, duit tabungannya itu dia ambil pilihan diambil sekaligus. Dihitung hitung total belasan tahu itu bunganya cuman absolut 6% (jadi per tahunnya cuma 0.0x%)..dia misuh misuh.. Yg punya ide bikin ASTEK dulu itu cuman niat mau nikmatin duit nganggur punya atas darah/keringat pekerja dan dipake sak enak udele.. liat aja tersangka koruptor Ahmad Djunaidi yg dicokok selagi umroh. Bini doi orang Singapura berantem di pengadilan rebutan harta. Duit dari mana cing? Dan baca di detik yg mau ngambil ga boleh sekarang ngambil semua sekali gus. Semua kebringasan, premanisme aparat pemerintah dan rasa tidak adilan ini membuat orang bijak jadi JANGAN bayar pajak. Tul ga? Hahahaha. Kita kita rakyat jelata cuman selalu jadi objek tak ubah seperti jaman Kultur Stelsel bin Tanam Paksa Belanda dulu kalo baca lagi buku sejarah. Ga banyak rasanya yg berubah. Tetap aja di tindas ama resim yang berkuasa, beda tragedinya dulu aktornya kulit putih bule sekarang ganti penindasnya bangsa dewek kulit coklat (dan sering sering diatur ama bule juga dibelakangnya). Salam rakyat jelata, tj Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Try Online Currency Trading with GFT. Free 50K Demo. Trade 24 Hours. Commission-Free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/RvFikB/9M2KAA/U1CZAA/zMEolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Gimana funda nya UNVR, PGAS, BUMI, ENRG?
Saya masih keep saham ini udah cukup lama. Sejauh ini sih masih ok posisi nya. Apa mending dilepas kalau rame? Dua hari ini koq jempling bin sepi betul ya? Ada apa? BUMI rame tapi mandeg macet harganya. salam saham, tj Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Try Online Currency Trading with GFT. Free 50K Demo. Trade 24 Hours. Commission-Free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/RvFikB/9M2KAA/U1CZAA/zMEolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Opini PGAS, UNVR, ENRG
Salam kenal. Saya masih hold ke tiga saham ini. Apa opini pak Budi dan kawan kawan lain? Hold dulu saja? BUMI harganya menarik kelihatannya. Saya agak heran mestinya saham saham enerji alternatif bagus prospeknya tapi blm banyak beranjak. MEDC, PTBA? Apa emang ada distorsi dari pihak tertentu? Terima kasih, salam sejahtera, tj Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Try Online Currency Trading with GFT. Free 50K Demo. Trade 24 Hours. Commission-Free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/RvFikB/9M2KAA/U1CZAA/zMEolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] OOT- Soal memburu jumlah NPWP
Maaf ini agak out of the topis. Yang rame soal kudu punya NPWP. Paman saya yg sepuh dan pensiunan nganggur; kerjanya ternak tericu dan tani bunga, dan ikutan ama saya kadang main saham walau dia lbh ke long term holding. Apakah harus punya NPWP? Kalau disalah satu kriteria di detik.com tertulis: mempunyai saham. Kalau bener dia mau keluar aja dari investasi saham dan simpan duit di instrumen lain yg ga minta NPWP. Urusan ama pajak mah sama aja datang ke sarang hiu atau srigala ujarnya hahahaaha. Saya juga awam dan jelata jadi ga bisa kasih pendapat sama beliau. Boleh mohon saran / pendapat anggota disini? terima kasih, salam sejahtera, tj Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Try Online Currency Trading with GFT. Free 50K Demo. Trade 24 Hours. Commission-Free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/RvFikB/9M2KAA/U1CZAA/zMEolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
