Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UD AH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
if you upset pls think with cool headed man, not like childreen, sudden judge
the other or yelling at, hope you and we all take a learn from this happen
correct me if i'm wrong
thx
regards
(bukan siapa-siapa dan tidak ingin menjadi siapa-siapa)
--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Vaulstrad vaulst...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Vaulstrad vaulst...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE
BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 4:36 AM
Like i say before I have no reason except that i am disappointed with the
leader. I do not even know him. That my mistake. I am sorry for that.
I add that margin call all bullshit because i am just upset at that moment. I
realise now that i make mistake and do not think properly at that time.
So there is no reason to follow this up. Like i say i am sorry.
Everyone have the right to be upset. maybe mine is just too much.
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Ruz7 indeksbei3000@ ... wrote:
The article is not yours, but this statement is :
Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;(
Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin
call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang
tertentu
May I Know the reason behind that statement ?
Btw: Tanda Alam, Milis Dibikin Rame. RUPS sebentar lagi. :)
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-Original Message-
From: Vaulstrad vaulst...@. ..
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:16:23
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE
BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
I guess it is about how you stand.
first for that article, i am not the writer.
Of course i know that if we keep talking this issue never resolve and BUMI
still at the lowest level. But it is not about the share price. This is how
you should stand. Even Mappi can extend time to talk to BUMI for the outcome.
If BUMI agree that it is publish. If not let adjust it to everyone favour.
This is call independent.
I believe that he should stand for us. that what the leader of minority
shareholder right? maybe he forget. He is just worries if this thing take
longer time BUMI share price will be at rock bottom.
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Aria Santoso ariasantoso@ wrote:
Dear PH,
I suppose that u need to learn about the difference of law ethics.
Should u do fart in front of us, it would be unfavorable to many of us;
however we couldn't sue you for that. It's not a law-breaking thing so
we can't take any legal action.
In fact we are not happy for that action and the bad smell left for us.
It's about ethics in social relationship.
Below allegation in public is managed under law. Please be so kind to
ensure that you will settle it.
Cordially,
Ace
Original Message
Subject:[ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE
BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:04:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: PHâ„¢ vaulstrad@
Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
PHâ„¢ wrote:
Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;(
Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin
call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang
tertentu
- - -
Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’
In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the
Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the
market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe,
nothing much has changed.
However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse
and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors â€
it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,�
with
analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they
are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial
Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK) .
In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of
three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo
Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after
an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions
were
Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UD AH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
gabung KIPS aja biar kenal Pak Rully dan tau apa yang dibahas di dalam KIPS
regards
From: Andy a...@qsix.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:17:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE
BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
Sorry,
mungkin saya kurang mengerti, bisa tolong dijelaskan, apakah memang ada
pengangkatan secara resmi bahwa Pak Rusli adalah Leader/Representati ve dari
minority shareholder group of BUMI secara LEGAL?
Kalau
dilihat dari cara menanggapi kritik orang lain kok kayak preman yah, mau ke
court segala.
Memangnya yg dihadapi itu REAL Person? Siapa yg mau di
penjarain lagi nih?
Aduh,
ingat diatas langit masih ada langit lagi!
PS:
Mau tanya nih iseng2, ngak ada hubungannya sih sama yg lagi diributin ini (gw
sendiri kaga ngerti apaan):
Gw pengen tahu,
apa sih yang ngak bisa dibeli di Indonesia? Honestly!
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
ps.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:41 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE
BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
Pak Paul SUDAH minta maaf dan sudah MENARIK statement yg menyinggung
pak Rully... Pak Rully juga menerima permintaan maaf pak Paul kan ?.
Case is CLOSED... We are all brother and sister, rite ?.
Embah tadi sengaja melepaskan perdebatan ini dimilis untuk
menjadi pembelajaran:
- Kalo posting, konsentrasi pada masalah dan jangan pada PRIBADI,
Kalo pak Paul mengutarakan masalahnya pada pak Rully secara
baik baik, kan engga akan ada KERIBUTAN ini. Malah akan jadi
topik yg menarik.
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vaulstrad vaulst...@. .. wrote:
Sorry rully that me just upset from the article from Jakarta Globe. There is
no need to go to court to prove. because i have nothing to prove.
I am one of the minority shareholder. Of course we depend on you. Please
kindly explain why there is sudden change.
My mistake for my statement. I fully take it back. Hope you forgive me. Of
course all statement below are for jokes only. Like margin call etc. But if
you take that seriously I am sorry.
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rully rullymainsaham@ wrote:
PH,
Would you be kind enough to clarify this allegation? Or should we go to
court so you can prove your allegation?
Salam,
Rully
- Original Message -
From: PHâ„¢
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:04 PM
Subject: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE
BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;(
Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call...
jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu
- - -
Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’
In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the
Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market
regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing
much has changed.
However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and
the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it
now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,†with
analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are
happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution
Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK) .
In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of
three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo
Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after
an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were
overpriced.
It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material
transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was
never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated
with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure
cross-shareholding arrangements.
However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the
recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up
with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti,
was Rp 370 billion too high.
But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was
renegotiate the price and bring it down to a “reasonable†level, which
it says it is now in the process of
Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UD AH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA
Boss DE, kayaknya yg pernah AR kanan (paling gak mendekati AR KANAN 1-2 point lg) Bakal terulang lg deh. ada yg punya catatan nya? Dean Earwicker wrote: Jawaban: Saham yang AR kanan/suspen. HAHAHA udah lah mereka udah pada baekan kok. Tadi saya lihat udah mulai **berpelukaaan! ** :)) Teletubbies™ Regards, DE 2009/6/20 Andy a...@qsix.com Gw pengen tahu, apa sih yang ngak bisa dibeli di Indonesia? Honestly! Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
