Re: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas,China Yang Mau Beli. ( Interview with IMF Head )

2009-09-22 Terurut Topik CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
pecially in the area of high technology.
> SPIEGEL: But are US consumers not well advised to save more after decades of
> living on credit?
> Strauss-Kahn: What is right for the individual can create new problems for
> the global economy. We have to find new sources of growth. We cannot simply
> say that the Brazilians, the Indians, and the Chinese are going to consume
> more.
> SPIEGEL: The American economist and Nobel laureate Paul Samuelson proposes
> another solution. Slow down, is his advice to the United States. Slow down
> capitalism. According to Samuelson, economic growth should be lower in the
> future but more sustainable.
> Strauss-Kahn: Samuelson is right -- growth will probably be lower in the
> future. But whoever pleads for growth to slow down should also acknowledge
> that it will lead to higher unemployment worldwide.
> SPIEGEL: Mr. Strauss-Kahn, we thank you for this interview.
> Interview conducted by Gregor Peter Schmitz and Gabor Steingart.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Matt Nowo  wrote:
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> From: Matt Nowo 
> Subject: Re: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 7:08 PM
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> It's good to be rich, isn't it? :-)
> You have higher bargaining power.
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> From: "CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)" 
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:12:28 +0700
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.
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> IMF mau jual 400+ ton emas minggu depan, seperdelapan dari cadangan IMF.
> http://mineweb. co.za/mineweb/ view/mineweb/ en/page34? oid=89504& sn=Detail
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> Kayaknya sih China yang mau beli semuanya, kalo dikasih diskon. Tiga
> belas milyar dollar, kontan!
> http://mobile. forbes.com/ device/article. php?CALL_ URL=http: //www.forbes.
> com/feeds/ reuters/2009/ 09/21/2009- 09-21T090755Z_ 01_SP483707_ RTRIDST_0_
> GOLD-CHINA- UPDATE-1. html?partner= moreover
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> Mengapa IMF perlu banyak uang sampe jual emas? Mengapa China yang mau beli?
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> Dan ternyata IMF narik iuran pake emas juga. :-P
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Re: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.

2009-09-21 Terurut Topik Agus Winardy
IMHO, IMF menjual emas dan cina yg beli, pasti akan dibayar dgn obligasi US yg 
ingin dibuang pelan2 oleh china untuk
memperkecil cadangan devisa mereka yg sebagian besar dalam bentuk obligasi usd.

Tp dengan penjualan ini, kayanya usd akan lebih stabil, mungkin juga tujuannya 
agar persepsi dunia terhadap usd akan membaik karena IMF berani menukaran emas 
dengan usd.
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Efeknya apa ya thd saham n nilai tukar ? Tq
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IMF mau jual 400+ ton emas minggu depan, seperdelapan dari cadangan IMF.
 http://mineweb.co.za/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=89504&sn=Detail 
<http://mineweb.co.za/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=89504&sn=Detail> 
 
 Kayaknya sih China yang mau beli semuanya, kalo dikasih diskon. Tiga
 belas milyar dollar, kontan!
 
http://mobile.forbes.com/device/article.php?CALL_URL=http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/09/21/2009-09-21T090755Z_01_SP483707_RTRIDST_0_GOLD-CHINA-UPDATE-1.html?partner=moreover
 
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 Mengapa IMF perlu banyak uang sampe jual emas? Mengapa China yang mau beli?
 
 Dan ternyata IMF narik iuran pake emas juga. :-P
 
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Re: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.

2009-09-21 Terurut Topik chris . hadiwijaya
Efeknya apa ya thd saham n nilai tukar ? 
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:12:28 
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IMF mau jual 400+ ton emas minggu depan, seperdelapan dari cadangan IMF.
http://mineweb.co.za/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=89504&sn=Detail


Kayaknya sih China yang mau beli semuanya, kalo dikasih diskon. Tiga
belas milyar dollar, kontan!
http://mobile.forbes.com/device/article.php?CALL_URL=http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/09/21/2009-09-21T090755Z_01_SP483707_RTRIDST_0_GOLD-CHINA-UPDATE-1.html?partner=moreover

Mengapa IMF perlu banyak uang sampe jual emas? Mengapa China yang mau beli?

Dan ternyata IMF narik iuran pake emas juga. :-P



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[ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas,China Yang Mau Beli. ( Interview with IMF Head )

2009-09-21 Terurut Topik Hubert Nice
dicine.
SPIEGEL: The patients, namely the countries, generally do not like their 
medicine. Often they complain it's too bitter.
Strauss-Kahn: That also happens to real doctors, right? The Fund is often the 
doctor who tells the patient to stop drinking because he is sick. The patient 
does not like it but he stops drinking -- and promptly feels awful. He then 
blames the doctor for feeling that way.
SPIEGEL: But during the current crisis, you were a lenient doctor. You advised 
your patient the United States to drink more: Take another swig from the debt 
bottle!
Strauss-Kahn: In this crisis, I would compare our role and that of governments 
to firefighters. We all saw that the house was on fire. A lot of water was 
needed to put the fire out. Of course, afterwards we have to mop up. But it is 
better to have a soaked house than a house burned to the ground.
SPIEGEL: Do you have any idea when the house will be dry again, how the 
government interventions could be terminated? Is there an exit strategy?
Strauss-Kahn: I agree, we do need such an exit strategy and we are working on 
it. But I disagree if your question implies that we should consider 
implementing it already. 
SPIEGEL: How many more trillions of dollars should governments continue to pump 
into their national economies?
Strauss-Kahn: In the minds of too many -- not only regular people but also top 
politicians -- the financial crisis is already behind us. That way of thinking 
is dangerous. The global economic crisis continues despite the fact that 
Germany and France saw some positive growth figures for the last quarter. 
However, unemployment is set to rise for at least another year, and will 
probably peak in mid-2010. So the financial crisis has not only been followed 
by an economic crisis, but also by a social crisis which has not yet reached 
its apex.
SPIEGEL: But the question remains: What is the exit strategy? Will central 
banks and finance ministers be able to pull all that additional money out of 
the markets before global inflation eats up savings and the purchasing power of 
billions of people?
Strauss-Kahn: We will have to withdraw liquidity from the markets. There is no 
question about that.
SPIEGEL: But how?
Strauss-Kahn: Possibly a combination of raising interest rates and an end to 
direct interventions by the central banks.
SPIEGEL: Or do you and others tacitly accept inflation? After all, it also 
helps to shrink the value of debts, including federal debts.
Strauss-Kahn: In this type of crisis, no policy action is without risk. But the 
question is: Where are the greatest risks? In my view, the risk that demand is 
stifled prematurely is much greater today than the risk of inflation.
SPIEGEL: For the first time in decades, American consumers are saving more. 
That means, however, they are also cutting back on consumption. Is that good or 
bad?
Strauss-Kahn: Both. During the last decades, American consumers served as the 
engine for global economic growth. The American consumer is now changing his 
behavior, at least the generation between 25 and 45 years of age. They are 
saving more. Will this trend continue? I do not know. But if it does, it would 
raise a new question. Who would take on the role the American consumer has 
played for the last 25 years?
SPIEGEL: Chinese consumers, perhaps?
Strauss-Kahn: It is not obvious that that will happen, and even if it does, it 
does not solve the entire problem. The Chinese invest primarily in basic goods, 
in education and infrastructure. US consumer demand is focused on other kinds 
of goods, especially in the area of high technology.
SPIEGEL: But are US consumers not well advised to save more after decades of 
living on credit?
Strauss-Kahn: What is right for the individual can create new problems for the 
global economy. We have to find new sources of growth. We cannot simply say 
that the Brazilians, the Indians, and the Chinese are going to consume more.
SPIEGEL: The American economist and Nobel laureate Paul Samuelson proposes 
another solution. Slow down, is his advice to the United States. Slow down 
capitalism. According to Samuelson, economic growth should be lower in the 
future but more sustainable.
Strauss-Kahn: Samuelson is right -- growth will probably be lower in the 
future. But whoever pleads for growth to slow down should also acknowledge that 
it will lead to higher unemployment worldwide.
SPIEGEL: Mr. Strauss-Kahn, we thank you for this interview.
Interview conducted by Gregor Peter Schmitz and Gabor Steingart.


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From: Matt Nowo 
Subject: Re: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 7:08 PM


  



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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:12:28 +0700
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Re: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.

2009-09-21 Terurut Topik Matt Nowo
It's good to be rich, isn't it? :-)
You have higher bargaining power. 
 
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-Original Message-
From: "CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)" 
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:12:28 
To: 
Subject: [ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.

IMF mau jual 400+ ton emas minggu depan, seperdelapan dari cadangan IMF.
http://mineweb.co.za/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=89504&sn=Detail


Kayaknya sih China yang mau beli semuanya, kalo dikasih diskon. Tiga
belas milyar dollar, kontan!
http://mobile.forbes.com/device/article.php?CALL_URL=http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/09/21/2009-09-21T090755Z_01_SP483707_RTRIDST_0_GOLD-CHINA-UPDATE-1.html?partner=moreover

Mengapa IMF perlu banyak uang sampe jual emas? Mengapa China yang mau beli?

Dan ternyata IMF narik iuran pake emas juga. :-P



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[ob] IMF Jual 400+ Ton Emas, China Yang Mau Beli.

2009-09-21 Terurut Topik CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
IMF mau jual 400+ ton emas minggu depan, seperdelapan dari cadangan IMF.
http://mineweb.co.za/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page34?oid=89504&sn=Detail


Kayaknya sih China yang mau beli semuanya, kalo dikasih diskon. Tiga
belas milyar dollar, kontan!
http://mobile.forbes.com/device/article.php?CALL_URL=http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/09/21/2009-09-21T090755Z_01_SP483707_RTRIDST_0_GOLD-CHINA-UPDATE-1.html?partner=moreover

Mengapa IMF perlu banyak uang sampe jual emas? Mengapa China yang mau beli?

Dan ternyata IMF narik iuran pake emas juga. :-P



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