Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - kEPEMILIKAN BUMI YG BARU : BNBR - Northstar - Ancora , dll

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik Hendra Susanto
Apa bedanya dibacking 1 ataupun 1000 perusahaan, kalau sumber uangnya dari 1
tempat?
Kalo Soros / Buffet yang masuk, mgk harganya akan cpt melejit, krn si bandar
BUMI unlikely akan membiarkan barang murahnya disosot bandar lain..


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:26 AM, John Rull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Menurut saya denga adanya transaksi oleh Northstar dan Ancora maka
> posisi BUMI akan semakin baik KARENA AKAN di backing oleh beberapa
> perusahaan yg memiliki modal yg cukup besar, jadi hari ini
> seharusnya harga saham BUMI akan naik.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> Iwan Tono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ancora gets up to 5 pct of Bumi Resources: source
> > Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:02am EST
> >
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> > [-] Text [+]
> > By Sara Webb
> > JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ancora Capital Management (Asia), an
> Indonesian private equity firm, has taken a stake of up to 5 percent
> in coal miner Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK: Quote, Profile, Research,
> Stock Buzz), worth about $75 million, a person familiar with the
> situation said on Saturday.
> > Bumi, Indonesia's biggest coal miner, was the prize asset in the
> diversified Bakrie group, which has been struggling to raise money
> in order to repay about $1.2 billion of debt at a time when
> investors are pulling out of emerging markets such as Indonesia amid
> a global financial crisis and credit crunch.
> > Late on Friday night, the Bakrie group announced that most of its
> short-term debt problems had been settled following a deal with
> Indonesian private equity firm Northstar Pacific.
> > Patrick Walujo, Northstar's founder, said the investment firm
> would take over a "significant" chunk of the $1.2 billion owed by
> the Bakrie group in a bid to convert it into shares in Bumi.
> > Separately, Ancora is taking over Bumi shares that had been held
> by JPMorgan as collateral against a loan of $70-100 million, the
> person familiar with the situation told Reuters.
> > Ancora, which is focused on investing in Indonesia's natural
> resources sector and infrastructure, was set up earlier this year by
> Gita Wirjawan, the former head of JPMorgan's (JPM.N: Quote, Profile,
> Research, Stock Buzz) Indonesian business, and raised about $300
> million to invest.
> > Bumi controls two major coal mines, PT Kaltim Prima Coal and PT
> Arutmin Indonesia, located in Indonesia's resource-rich East
> Kalimantan province. Both mines produce high quality coal used in
> power plants. The coal-mining firm aims to sell 60 million tonnes of
> coal this year, or around a quarter of Indonesian output.
> > Bumi was briefly the biggest firm by market capitalization on the
> Indonesian bourse when its share price peaked in June.
> > But concerns over the Bakrie group's debts, coupled with the
> retreat in commodity prices and global market sell-off, knocked
> Bumi's share price down from an all-time high of 8,750 rupiah to a
> 2009 low of 640 rupiah in November, or less than one-tenth of the
> peak value.
> > Bakrie & Brothers (BNBR.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz),
> the listed holding company, is controlled by the family of
> Indonesia's chief social welfare minister Aburizal Bakrie, and has
> interests in palm oil, property and telecoms.
> > The group borrowed heavily to finance an aggressive expansion,
> using shares in Bumi as collateral.
> > As Bumi's stock plunged, some creditors started to sell off shares
> in Bumi that had been held as collateral, depressing the share price
> even further, brokers said.
> > Bumi shares on Friday closed at 1,010 rupiah, up 9.8 percent on
> the day.
> > (Editing by Tomasz Janowski)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:01:58 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MACQUARIE how will the dice roll for
> bakrie? (BUMI)
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, bobby gosal
> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Orang engga henti henti nya mencoba menghitung nilai BUMI...
> >
> > Menurut pak Kidod saham BUMI di BNBR ada 19,27%, coba bandingkan
> > ama hitungan Macquairie:
> >
> > - Dari pdf kiriman Pak Bobby Gosal: Menurut Macquire saham BUMI
> > yg di repo di Oddickson ada $334 juta dollar per tgl 21/11
> > dengan menggunakan Last Traded price yaitu tgl laporan Macquire.
> > Pada tgl 21/11 harga BUMI close di 710 perak.
> > - Jadi jumlah lembah saham BUMI yg ada di Oddickson =
> > $334 x kurs 12000/ 710 = 5,65 juta lembar atau 29%.
> >
> > Mana yg benar 19,27% atau 29% ?. Sepertinya yg lebih masuk akal
> > adalah 19,27%
> >
> > Jadi sesudah Deal Nortstar:
> > - Northstar punya BUMI 19,27%
> > - BNBR punya sekitar 15%
> >
> > Status REPO BUMI:
> > - Nortstar repo BUMI 19,27% ex punya BNBR dan
> > - BNBR masih punya repo BUMI 7% dicreditur lain selain Oddickson.
> >
> > Jadi STATUS Repo BUMI sesudah deal Nortstar sebenarnya belum
> > be

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI - kEPEMILIKAN BUMI YG BARU : BNBR - Northstar - Ancora , dll

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik John Rull
Menurut saya denga adanya transaksi oleh Northstar dan Ancora maka 
posisi BUMI akan semakin baik KARENA AKAN di backing oleh beberapa 
perusahaan yg memiliki modal yg cukup besar, jadi hari ini 
seharusnya harga saham BUMI akan naik. 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Iwan Tono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>  
> Ancora gets up to 5 pct of Bumi Resources: source
> Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:02am EST
>  
> Email | Print | 
> Share| Reprints | Single Page | Recommend (0) 
> [-] Text [+] 
> By Sara Webb
> JAKARTA (Reuters) - Ancora Capital Management (Asia), an 
Indonesian private equity firm, has taken a stake of up to 5 percent 
in coal miner Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, 
Stock Buzz), worth about $75 million, a person familiar with the 
situation said on Saturday.
> Bumi, Indonesia's biggest coal miner, was the prize asset in the 
diversified Bakrie group, which has been struggling to raise money 
in order to repay about $1.2 billion of debt at a time when 
investors are pulling out of emerging markets such as Indonesia amid 
a global financial crisis and credit crunch.
> Late on Friday night, the Bakrie group announced that most of its 
short-term debt problems had been settled following a deal with 
Indonesian private equity firm Northstar Pacific.
> Patrick Walujo, Northstar's founder, said the investment firm 
would take over a "significant" chunk of the $1.2 billion owed by 
the Bakrie group in a bid to convert it into shares in Bumi.
> Separately, Ancora is taking over Bumi shares that had been held 
by JPMorgan as collateral against a loan of $70-100 million, the 
person familiar with the situation told Reuters.
> Ancora, which is focused on investing in Indonesia's natural 
resources sector and infrastructure, was set up earlier this year by 
Gita Wirjawan, the former head of JPMorgan's (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, 
Research, Stock Buzz) Indonesian business, and raised about $300 
million to invest.
> Bumi controls two major coal mines, PT Kaltim Prima Coal and PT 
Arutmin Indonesia, located in Indonesia's resource-rich East 
Kalimantan province. Both mines produce high quality coal used in 
power plants. The coal-mining firm aims to sell 60 million tonnes of 
coal this year, or around a quarter of Indonesian output.
> Bumi was briefly the biggest firm by market capitalization on the 
Indonesian bourse when its share price peaked in June.
> But concerns over the Bakrie group's debts, coupled with the 
retreat in commodity prices and global market sell-off, knocked 
Bumi's share price down from an all-time high of 8,750 rupiah to a 
2009 low of 640 rupiah in November, or less than one-tenth of the 
peak value.
> Bakrie & Brothers (BNBR.JK: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), 
the listed holding company, is controlled by the family of 
Indonesia's chief social welfare minister Aburizal Bakrie, and has 
interests in palm oil, property and telecoms.
> The group borrowed heavily to finance an aggressive expansion, 
using shares in Bumi as collateral.
> As Bumi's stock plunged, some creditors started to sell off shares 
in Bumi that had been held as collateral, depressing the share price 
even further, brokers said.
> Bumi shares on Friday closed at 1,010 rupiah, up 9.8 percent on 
the day.
> (Editing by Tomasz Janowski)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:01:58 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MACQUARIE how will the dice roll for 
bakrie? (BUMI)
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, bobby gosal 
 
> wrote:
> >
> 
> Orang engga henti henti nya mencoba menghitung nilai BUMI...
> 
> Menurut pak Kidod saham BUMI di BNBR ada 19,27%, coba bandingkan
> ama hitungan Macquairie:
> 
> - Dari pdf kiriman Pak Bobby Gosal: Menurut Macquire saham BUMI 
> yg di repo di Oddickson ada $334 juta dollar per tgl 21/11 
> dengan menggunakan Last Traded price yaitu tgl laporan Macquire.
> Pada tgl 21/11 harga BUMI close di 710 perak.
> - Jadi jumlah lembah saham BUMI yg ada di Oddickson =
> $334 x kurs 12000/ 710 = 5,65 juta lembar atau 29%.
> 
> Mana yg benar 19,27% atau 29% ?. Sepertinya yg lebih masuk akal
> adalah 19,27%
> 
> Jadi sesudah Deal Nortstar:
> - Northstar punya BUMI 19,27% 
> - BNBR punya sekitar 15%
> 
> Status REPO BUMI:
> - Nortstar repo BUMI 19,27% ex punya BNBR dan
> - BNBR masih punya repo BUMI 7% dicreditur lain selain Oddickson.
> 
> Jadi STATUS Repo BUMI sesudah deal Nortstar sebenarnya belum
> berubah.
> 
> Bener engga pak Halim ?. 
> 
> Pak Halim gimana nasib harga BUMI sesudah CA Northstar ?.
> Pake TA atau CA ?.
> 
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