Re: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS: Q3 Update, Beli tanah murah yu....

2008-11-02 Terurut Topik Kezia
Enggak Mbah.  Di masa krisis gini book value blm tentu mencerminkan
market value, khususnya aset property yg rawan bubble.

2008/11/2, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Beli tanah murah yu


 Harga property masih akan turun, telihat pada performance CTRS.

 Suku bunga yg tinggi dan prediksi penjualan property 2009 yg akan
 turun sekitar 10% ampe 20% akan membuat sektor property tidak
 bergairah.

 Tapi kalo ada yg mau jual land bank MURAH BANGET, mau engga ?,
 liat dibawah:

 - Sale CTRS = 314 (9 month)
 - Costnya = 158
 - Laba kotor = 49%

 Ini kurang lebih artinya Modal penjualan tanah+banguan = 51%

 Saat ini harga CTRS = 185 dengan Price to Book value (PBV) = 0,28
 Artinya anda beli saham CTRS dengan harga cuman 28% dari
 Harga Buku asset CTRS atau dibawah modal asset CTRS dilevel 51%.

 Bener engga ?.

 http://www.investdata.net/QSCTRS.TXT









[obrolan-bandar] CTRS: Q3 Update, Beli tanah murah yu....

2008-11-01 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Beli tanah murah yu


Harga property masih akan turun, telihat pada performance CTRS.

Suku bunga yg tinggi dan prediksi penjualan property 2009 yg akan
turun sekitar 10% ampe 20% akan membuat sektor property tidak
bergairah.

Tapi kalo ada yg mau jual land bank MURAH BANGET, mau engga ?,
liat dibawah:

- Sale CTRS = 314 (9 month)
- Costnya = 158
- Laba kotor = 49%

Ini kurang lebih artinya Modal penjualan tanah+banguan = 51%

Saat ini harga CTRS = 185 dengan Price to Book value (PBV) = 0,28
Artinya anda beli saham CTRS dengan harga cuman 28% dari
Harga Buku asset CTRS atau dibawah modal asset CTRS dilevel 51%.

Bener engga ?.

http://www.investdata.net/QSCTRS.TXT








[obrolan-bandar] CTRS

2008-10-14 Terurut Topik tjoa_to_hing
arek-arek suroboya!!!
mau tanya nih, CTRS gimana kabarnya di sono?
kenapa CTRS harganya bisa turun banget di banding CTRA?
padahal biasanya harga nya selalu diatas CTRA!!
pbv juga jauh di banding ctra,
ctrs book value nya 640.
kalo di lihat dari FA bukannya udah terlalu murah?





[obrolan-bandar] CTRS: Financial performane Q2/2008

2008-08-02 Terurut Topik OB Help desk
Dari SALES (QTR) terlihat booming property terjadi pada Q4/2007 dan
sesudah itu melemah untuk CTRS. Untuk emiten property yg lain
belum jelas..

Untuk bank BESAR, income stability masih bisa di maintained

http://www.investdata.net/QTCTRS.TXT


Regards,

OB helpDesk


[obrolan-bandar] CTRS,CTRA,CTRP harga dibawah nilai buku

2008-04-16 Terurut Topik Agus Tandiono
Grup ciputra nampaknya membiarkan nilai saham turun dibawah nilai buku
  nampaknya saat ini blm waktunya utk collect saham dibawah nilai buku.

   
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[obrolan-bandar] CTRS payah

2007-12-27 Terurut Topik Pemain Mini
CTRA udah melaju kencang
CTRS di situ2 aja kyk lemot
saham gak menguntungkan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS payah

2007-12-27 Terurut Topik Color Of Universe
Gantian dong pak, dulu kan ctrs yg terbang sedangkan ctra jongkok aja.

On 12/27/07, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CTRA udah melaju kencang
 CTRS di situ2 aja kyk lemot
 saham gak menguntungkan


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[obrolan-bandar] CTRS lagi

2007-12-20 Terurut Topik Pemain Mini
Jika baca rekomendasi di sini

http://stocks.us.reuters.com/stocks/recommendations.asp?WTmodLOC=C3-FindOut-1-Recommendations

saham CTRS ini layak di BUY.tapi apakah benar2 layak ? 
gw termasuk salah SATU yang merasa dirugikan..
saya pernah beli TAHUN LALU di 1070.sampe skr GAK CUAN.tau gini beli 
ELTY ajarese nih...
gimana yah.research luar negeri masih aja bisa keliru.emang blm tau 
ciri2 saham ciputra yg agak rampok

ada ga yg lain yg jadi korban ciputra ini ? 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS terbang...

2007-12-03 Terurut Topik farhan zailani
wajar aja toh, Pak Ciputra kan baru dapat penghargaan



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Pak Ciputra lagi unjuk gigi kali yak...hehehe. .





  

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS terbang...

2007-12-03 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
emang masih punya gigi? …he..he

 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS terbang...

2007-12-03 Terurut Topik Landlord
Unjuk apa juga boleh deh .. Yg penting hrgnya naek!

 

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[obrolan-bandar] CTRS

2007-04-26 Terurut Topik Dodi Aulia

Mohon pencerahan dong, CTRS kira-kira mau di-angkat sampai berapa ya?

Trims


[obrolan-bandar] CTRS research 1200 from csfb

2006-12-11 Terurut Topik up_trends
tgl 11 csfb baru keluar research ctrs 1200 



RE: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS

2006-04-17 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto





masih bisa naek ke 720 dulu
dengan asumsi tidak dibawah 610

  -Original Message-From: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of kangjahe mandiriSent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:25 
  AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [obrolan-bandar] CTRS
  hallo bung Sudeswantoapa kabar?
  
  bagaimana CTRS apakah masih bisa naik lagi?
  target di berapa?
  apakah CTRS masih layak di ambil?
  
  thanksgood luck
  
  Sudeswanto 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

yup

  -Original Message-From: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of johannes 
  zakariaSent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:28 PMTo: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  ASII and GJTL : time to buy?
  Pak Sudeswanto,
  
  Jadi time to buy GJTL IDR 670 dgn target resistance IDR 
  730/740.
  
  Rgds,
  
  
  
  Sudeswanto 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  session 
I updatedASII : break its middle term resistance at IDR 11.650, 
as long as the pricedont fall below IDR 11.650, the target price for 
ASII is IDR 13.550, you mayfollow the vertical red lineGJTL: 
break its short term resistance and its going to testing 
itsresistance at IDR 730-740, the price should not fall below IDR 
660, you mayfollow the vertical red line or the vertical black 
lineBest Regards,SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNGRESEARCH 
DEPARTMENTPT SINARMAS SEKURITASGEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA 
IIIJl.M.H.Thamrin No.51Telp : 
62-21-3925550 ext.159Fax : 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS

2006-04-16 Terurut Topik kangjahe mandiri



hallo bung Sudeswantoapa kabar?bagaimana CTRS apakah masih bisa naik lagi?  target di berapa?  apakah CTRS masih layak di ambil?thanksgood luckSudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  yup-Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of johannes zakariaSent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:28 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject:
 Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII and GJTL : time to buy?  Pak Sudeswanto,Jadi time to buy GJTL IDR 670 dgn target resistance IDR 730/740.Rgds,Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  session I updatedASII : break its middle term resistance at IDR 11.650, as long as the pricedont fall below IDR 11.650, the target price for ASII is IDR 13.550, you mayfollow the vertical red lineGJTL: break its short term resistance and its going to testing itsresistance at IDR 730-740, the price should not fall below IDR 660, you mayfollow the vertical red line or the vertical black lineBest Regards,SAMUEL
 SUDESWANTO YEUNGRESEARCH DEPARTMENTPT SINARMAS SEKURITASGEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA IIIJl.M.H.Thamrin No.51Telp : 62-21-3925550 ext.159Fax : 62-21-3925579Yeremia 33:3 : Berserulah kepada-Ku, maka Aku akan menjawab engkau dan akanmemberitahukan kepadamu hal-hal yang besar dan yang tidak terpahami, yaknihal-hal yang tidak kauketahuiDISCLAIMER :This material is issued by PT Sinarmas Sekuritas, a member of the Jakartaand Surabaya Stock Exchanges, represent the opinion of PT SinarmasSekuritas, derived its judgement from sources deemed reliable, however, PTSinarmas Sekuritas and its affiliated cannot guarantee its accuracy andcompleteness. PT Sinarmas Sekuritas or its affiliates may be involved intransactions contrary to any opinion herein or have positions in thesecurities recommended herein and may seek or will seek investment bankingor other
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS

2006-04-16 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





CTRS is good dude...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  kangjahe 
  mandiri 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:25 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS
  
  hallo bung Sudeswantoapa kabar?
  
  bagaimana CTRS apakah masih bisa naik lagi?
  target di berapa?
  apakah CTRS masih layak di ambil?
  
  thanksgood luck
  
  Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

yup

  -Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of johannes 
  zakariaSent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:28 PMTo: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  ASII and GJTL : time to buy?
  Pak Sudeswanto,
  
  Jadi time to buy GJTL IDR 670 dgn target resistance IDR 
  730/740.
  
  Rgds,
  
  
  
  Sudeswanto 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  session 
I updatedASII : break its middle term resistance at IDR 11.650, 
as long as the pricedont fall below IDR 11.650, the target price for 
ASII is IDR 13.550, you mayfollow the vertical red lineGJTL: 
break its short term resistance and its going to testing 
itsresistance at IDR 730-740, the price should not fall below IDR 
660, you mayfollow the vertical red line or the vertical black 
lineBest Regards,SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNGRESEARCH 
DEPARTMENTPT SINARMAS SEKURITASGEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA 
IIIJl.M.H.Thamrin No.51Telp : 
62-21-3925550 ext.159Fax : 
62-21-3925579Yeremia 33:3 : Berserulah kepada-Ku, maka Aku akan 
menjawab engkau dan akanmemberitahukan kepadamu hal-hal yang besar 
dan yang tidak terpahami, yaknihal-hal yang tidak 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS and MYOR are the target?

2006-03-16 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto





u are very 
welcome
thanx to you too 
^^

  -Original Message-From: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of johannes zakariaSent: 16 March 2006 
  14:52To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
  [obrolan-bandar] CTRS and MYOR are the target?
  Pak Sudeswanto,
  
  Thks informasisangat bermanfaat sekali.
  
  Salam,
  Johannes Z
  
  Sudeswanto 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

myor.JPG ctrs.JPG 
Sincerely, 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS and MYOR are the target?

2006-03-15 Terurut Topik Investor Bonex



MYOR selama ini outside my radar, kalo CTRS sih sudah kuda2..  kira2FA buat MYOR, gimana ya ?thanks-Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  myor.JPG ctrs.JPG   Sincerely,   SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG RESEARCH DEPARTMENT Phone : (62 21) 392 5550 ext. 159   PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS Gedung Plaza BII, Menara III Lt. V Jl. M.H. Thamrin No. 51 Jakarta - 10350 Indonesia   DISCLAIMER This material is issued by PT Sinarmas Sekuritas, a member of the Jakarta and Surabaya Stock Exchanges, represent the opinion of PT Sinarmas Sekuritas, derived its judgement from sources deemed reliable, however, PT Sinarmas Sekuritas and its affiliated cannot guarantee its accuracy and completeness. PT Sinarmas Sekuritas or its affiliates may be involved in transactions contrary to any opinion herein or have positions in the securities recommended herein and may seek or will seek investment banking or other
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] CTRS and MYOR are the target?

2006-03-15 Terurut Topik johannes zakaria



Pak Sudeswanto,Thks informasisangat bermanfaat sekali.Salam,  Johannes ZSudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  myor.JPG ctrs.JPG   Sincerely,   SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG RESEARCH DEPARTMENT Phone : (62 21) 392 5550 ext. 159  
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[obrolan-bandar] CTRS,MYOR

2005-03-06 Terurut Topik budi suryono




CTRS seperti saya bahas sebelumnya, make a break di 1610 tapi turun ke 1570an dan naik lagi, jumat kemarin make a new high di 1650 walaupun dengan volume yang tidak mengesankan, anyhow tetap sebuah opportunity, yang diharapkan besok melanjutkan rallynya.buy CTRS di 1650

MYOR,telah konsolidasi di 1200-1340 an selama 4 bulan,watch jika membentuk new high dengan vol besar di level 1350,merupakan saat yang tepat untuk beli dan strong posibility untuk rally lebih lanjut

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