Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-09 Terurut Topik Irawan Sudarman
tul

2008/2/10 Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

CPO boleh lah naik
 tapi kalo regional gak dukung, plus bandar gak mau kasih angapo..
 mau hold nih saham juga gak bakalan untung..



 - Original Message -
 *From:* bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:18 PM
 *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

  Oil rebound di hari Jumat , CPO akan break new high lagi minggu depan
 ?

  



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-09 Terurut Topik Pemain Mini
CPO boleh lah naik
tapi kalo regional gak dukung, plus bandar gak mau kasih angapo..
mau hold nih saham juga gak bakalan untung..


  - Original Message - 
  From: bernanke20551 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:18 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High


  Oil rebound di hari Jumat , CPO akan break new high lagi minggu depan
  ?



   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-09 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Pakai FA saja , kalo mau setiap hari dapat untung yah susah dong saat 
seperti sekarang ... he he



[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-08 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Oil rebound di hari Jumat , CPO akan break new high lagi minggu depan
 ?



RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Dicurangi gimana maksudnya pak... 

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew wijaya
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:53 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

 

Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja
perusahaan perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga
saat ini, hanya +/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the
spot. Cuma PE ini berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya
ada menghitung penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam
negri yg kebetulan punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum
punya pabrik akan terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya
pabrik yg diuntungkan krn kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR,
serta TBLA (perusahaan ini bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi
pemegang saham pengendali).

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  menulis:

jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
jika iya, bagus donk..



2008/2/5 bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...

 

 

 



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Andrew wijaya
Harga jual perusahaan boleh naik tapi fee dari agen penjual juga ikut naik.
Semua transaksi baik mesin dan produk perseroan dilakukan oleh perusahaan yg
dimiliki oleh pemegang saham pengendali. Setiap periode tertentu khususnya
ketika harga melonjak, maka fee yg dibebankan kepada perseroan juga ikut
dinaikan dgn segala macam alasan. Yah kalo murah sekali si boleh tapi kalo
relatif wajar sih ntar dulu yah.

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Prasetyo, Hani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
menulis:

 Dicurangi gimana maksudnya pak…


  --

 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew wijaya
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:53 PM
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High



 Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja perusahaan
 perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga saat ini, hanya
 +/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the spot. Cuma PE ini
 berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya ada menghitung
 penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam negri yg kebetulan
 punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum punya pabrik akan
 terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya pabrik yg diuntungkan krn
 kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR, serta TBLA (perusahaan ini
 bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi pemegang saham pengendali).

 Pada tanggal 05/02/08, *Irawan Sudarman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

 jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
 jika iya, bagus donk..

  2008/2/5 bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...





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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

TBLA kalo ga salah yg pegang Sungai Budi Group (BUDI)... thanks
infonya...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew wijaya
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:29 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

 

Harga jual perusahaan boleh naik tapi fee dari agen penjual juga ikut
naik. Semua transaksi baik mesin dan produk perseroan dilakukan oleh
perusahaan yg dimiliki oleh pemegang saham pengendali. Setiap periode
tertentu khususnya ketika harga melonjak, maka fee yg dibebankan kepada
perseroan juga ikut dinaikan dgn segala macam alasan. Yah kalo murah
sekali si boleh tapi kalo relatif wajar sih ntar dulu yah.

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Prasetyo, Hani
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  menulis:

Dicurangi gimana maksudnya pak... 

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Andrew wijaya
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:53 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

 

Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja
perusahaan perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga
saat ini, hanya +/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the
spot. Cuma PE ini berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya
ada menghitung penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam
negri yg kebetulan punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum
punya pabrik akan terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya
pabrik yg diuntungkan krn kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR,
serta TBLA (perusahaan ini bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi
pemegang saham pengendali).

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  menulis:

jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
jika iya, bagus donk..

2008/2/5 bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Lamasi Saksi
*05.02.2008 - MIDDAY Closing Crude Palm Oil Quotes:*
 Midday Closing CPO futures prices on Bursa Malaysia Derivatives in MYR/ton

*Month*

*Close*

*Previous*

*Change*

*High*

*Low*

Feb '08

3400

3300

*up 100*

3400

3350

Mar '08

3421

3339

*up 82*

3445

3401
 *

Apr '08
*

*3431*

*3345*

*up 86*

*3458*

*3409*

May '08

3428

3344

*up 84*

3455

3407
 Turnover at 0430 GMT: 6,653 lots. (1 lot=25 tons)

On 2/5/08, Andrew wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja
 perusahaan perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga saat
 ini, hanya +/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the spot.
 Cuma PE ini berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya ada
 menghitung penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam negri yg
 kebetulan punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum punya pabrik
 akan terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya pabrik yg diuntungkan
 krn kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR, serta TBLA (perusahaan
 ini bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi pemegang saham pengendali).

 Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
 
jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
  jika iya, bagus donk..
 
 
  2008/2/5 bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...
  
  
 
 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
cari yg profit marginnya paling lebar.. yg paling banyak revenuenya 
adalah hasil sendiri bukan plasma...

sgro sama tbla tuh banyakan plasmanya...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andrew wijaya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Harga jual perusahaan boleh naik tapi fee dari agen penjual juga 
ikut naik.
 Semua transaksi baik mesin dan produk perseroan dilakukan oleh 
perusahaan yg
 dimiliki oleh pemegang saham pengendali. Setiap periode tertentu 
khususnya
 ketika harga melonjak, maka fee yg dibebankan kepada perseroan juga 
ikut
 dinaikan dgn segala macam alasan. Yah kalo murah sekali si boleh 
tapi kalo
 relatif wajar sih ntar dulu yah.
 
 Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Prasetyo, Hani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 menulis:
 
  Dicurangi gimana maksudnya pak…
 
 
   --
 
  *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew wijaya
  *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:53 PM
  *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High
 
 
 
  Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja 
perusahaan
  perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga saat 
ini, hanya
  +/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the spot. 
Cuma PE ini
  berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya ada 
menghitung
  penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam negri yg 
kebetulan
  punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum punya pabrik 
akan
  terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya pabrik yg 
diuntungkan krn
  kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR, serta TBLA 
(perusahaan ini
  bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi pemegang saham 
pengendali).
 
  Pada tanggal 05/02/08, *Irawan Sudarman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
 
  jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
  jika iya, bagus donk..
 
   2008/2/5 bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik farhan zailani
Ada yang bisa cerita nggak ttg Si pemegang saham pengendali ini?
tks


- Original Message 
From: Prasetyo, Hani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 3:38:02 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

TBLA kalo ga salah yg pegang Sungai Budi Group (BUDI)… thanks infonya…
 



From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Andrew wijaya
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:29 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High
 
Harga jual perusahaan boleh naik tapi fee dari agen penjual juga ikut naik. 
Semua transaksi baik mesin dan produk perseroan dilakukan oleh perusahaan yg 
dimiliki oleh pemegang saham pengendali. Setiap periode tertentu khususnya 
ketika harga melonjak, maka fee yg dibebankan kepada perseroan juga ikut 
dinaikan dgn segala macam alasan. Yah kalo murah sekali si boleh tapi kalo 
relatif wajar sih ntar dulu yah.
Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Prasetyo, Hani Hani.Prasetyo@ standardchartere d.com 
menulis:
Dicurangi gimana maksudnya pak… 
 



From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com] On Behalf Of Andrew wijaya
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:53 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High
 
Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja perusahaan 
perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga saat ini, hanya 
+/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the spot. Cuma PE ini 
berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya ada menghitung penurunan 
Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam negri yg kebetulan punya kebon 
sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum punya pabrik akan terganggu. Contoh 
perusahaan perkebunan yg punya pabrik yg diuntungkan krn kebijakan ini antara 
lain Group INDF dan SMAR, serta TBLA (perusahaan ini bagus tapi ada 
kecendrungan dicurangi pemegang saham pengendali).
Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com menulis:
jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
jika iya, bagus donk..
2008/2/5 bernanke20551 bernanke20551@ yahoo.com:
Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
TA dibikin kusut sedangkan FA tambah ok , orang sabar pasti disayang 
Tuhan ( dan BD juga kali ya ) ...



[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Menjaga harga kacang kedelai utk tahu  tempe saat ini saja 
pemerintah RI ngga berkutik , apalagi utk CPO mau bikin pajak export 
apa mempan ya ?




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Pemain Saham
TA bukan kusut lagi.tapi busuk
mau sabar sampai kapan.namanya aja bandar, kok mau bagi2 duit
kekekeke...

  - Original Message - 
  From: bernanke20551 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:40 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High


  TA dibikin kusut sedangkan FA tambah ok , orang sabar pasti disayang 
  Tuhan ( dan BD juga kali ya ) ...



   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
CPO naik lagi 1,8% (running) dan di harga skrg CPO belum terkena 
pajak export progressif ( US$ 1100 akan kena 15% )



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Pemain Mini
bah.gak ada efek di saham agri

  - Original Message - 
  From: bernanke20551 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:48 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High


  CPO naik lagi 1,8% (running) dan di harga skrg CPO belum terkena 
  pajak export progressif ( US$ 1100 akan kena 15% )



   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Pajak export naik progressif max 25% sedangkan PPN turun 10% ... 
ahirnya yang untung bukannya perusahaan perkebunan yang export ?



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Andrew wijaya
CPO bukan hanya untuk minyak goreng, tetapi untuk banyak kebutuhan spt sabun
dan detergent. CPO dikenakan PE segitu tinggi sehingga eksport menjadi tidak
menarik. Yg menjadi pertanyaan apakah pabrik di dalam negri mampu mengelolah
CPO yg dihasilkan kebon dalam negri? Dgn harga yg spt saat ini 3400-an akan
membuat kebon di Malaysia semakin jaya sedang dari Indo sulit masuk ke pasar
krn adanya PE apalagi harga naik diatas 3600 maka kebon di Indo kurang
berminat masuk pasar kecuali harga melonjak tinggi hingga diatas 4000 yg
akan membuat kebon dalam negri melakukan eksport krn setelah dipotong PE 25%
masih akan lebih tinggi dibanding saat ini. Untuk PPN turun 10%, jawabannya
seperti kalimat ketiga diatas.

2008/2/5, bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Pajak export naik progressif max 25% sedangkan PPN turun 10% ...
 ahirnya yang untung bukannya perusahaan perkebunan yang export ?

 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Pak Andrew , tetapi pajak export kan progressif max 25% ( saat ini 
tdk dikenakan pajak 25% ) ... penurunan export akan dicover dgn 
lonjakan harga CPO serta penurunan PPN .



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Pemain Mini
pak bernanke dan pak andrew, ga usah berdebat mengenai pajak deh
yg penting kenapa hari ini saham CPO anjlok semua.SGRO, UNSP, TBLA 
jadi pecundang..karena sama sekali blm ada candle panjangsedangkan AALI 
dan LSIP sudah.
jadi penurunan hari ini masih bisa di tolerir...

  - Original Message - 
  From: bernanke20551 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:33 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High


  Pak Andrew , tetapi pajak export kan progressif max 25% ( saat ini 
  tdk dikenakan pajak 25% ) ... penurunan export akan dicover dgn 
  lonjakan harga CPO serta penurunan PPN .



   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik bernanke20551
Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Irawan Sudarman
jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
jika iya, bagus donk..


2008/2/5 bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...

  



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Andrew wijaya
Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja perusahaan
perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga saat ini, hanya
+/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the spot. Cuma PE ini
berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya ada menghitung
penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam negri yg kebetulan
punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum punya pabrik akan
terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya pabrik yg diuntungkan krn
kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR, serta TBLA (perusahaan ini
bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi pemegang saham pengendali).

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

   jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
 jika iya, bagus donk..


 2008/2/5 bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...