[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalo saya pribadi sih ga masalah, pak... Soalnya buat saya gerakan-gerakannya pak JT itu ilmu juga... Make sense..., better keep private., ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to introspectively work on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to sympathise or to congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your business. From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford Page 58 This post originally posted at: www.trendtrader.co.cc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1735 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 2:52 PM
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
sharing view
sharing posisi
sama telling people about your trades bedanya apa
maklum agak rancu disini, saya sih cenderung ok2 aja sharing view dan
posisi karena prosesnya bisa profit dan prosesnya bisa loss itu yg
harus dipelajari.
mungkin lebih tepatnya, stop telling people about your trades,
without explanation or view ?
klo ada penjelasan ok la
heehehhe
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pengamat Market
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Proses belajarnya pak yang penting..
Sharing view sih gk masalah pak...
Sharing posisi jg gk dilarang...
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:52 PM
Buat saya, hal yg paling penting dari Om
T, bukanlah dianya profit ato rugi.
Tapi penjelasannya dari sisi technical.
Grafik2nya sangat membantu mengerti apa yg dicoba dijelaskan.
From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Pengamat Market
Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008
4:45 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop
Telling People About Your Trades
Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas
sangat sederhana.
Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau
menelusuri
lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita
lupakan
Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita
telah
menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita
sedang
profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu
mungkin akan
membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi
profit tapi
anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu
juga bisa
menyakiti teman anda.
Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar
penilaian
kita ke market tetap objektif
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
From: JsxTrader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM
Make sense...,
better keep private
, ok I'll stop telling people about my trade.
Thanks for
the reminding.
Regards,
JsxTrader
From:
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ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market
Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop
Telling People About Your Trades
Stop
telling people about your trades!
Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with
words. If
you keep telling others about your open positions, you are
encouraging them
to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'.
While you
have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this
private,
and not discuss your successes or failures with another living
soul. You do
not need to hear another person's response regarding your
effectiveness or
ineffectiveness as a trader.
The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to
introspectively work
on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to
sympathise or
to congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your
business.
From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford
Page 58
This post originally posted at:
www.trendtrader. co.cc
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
well.. tiap orang bisa punya pandangan sendiri dan masing2tentang hal ini.
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:20 PM
sharing view
sharing posisi
sama telling people about your trades bedanya apa
maklum agak rancu disini, saya sih cenderung ok2 aja sharing view dan
posisi karena prosesnya bisa profit dan prosesnya bisa loss itu yg
harus dipelajari.
mungkin lebih tepatnya, stop telling people about your trades,
without explanation or view ?
klo ada penjelasan ok la
heehehhe
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Pengamat Market
kalipatullah@ ... wrote:
Proses belajarnya pak yang penting..
Sharing view sih gk masalah pak...
Sharing posisi jg gk dilarang...
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:52 PM
Buat saya, hal yg paling penting dari Om
T, bukanlah dianya profit ato rugi.
Tapi penjelasannya dari sisi technical.
Grafik2nya sangat membantu mengerti apa yg dicoba dijelaskan.
From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Pengamat Market
Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008
4:45 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop
Telling People About Your Trades
Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas
sangat sederhana.
Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau
menelusuri
lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita
lupakan
Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita
telah
menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita
sedang
profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu
mungkin akan
membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi
profit tapi
anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu
juga bisa
menyakiti teman anda.
Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar
penilaian
kita ke market tetap objektif
--- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
From: JsxTrader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM
Make sense...,
better keep private…, ok I'll stop telling people about my trade.
Thanks for
the reminding.
Regards,
JsxTrader
From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market
Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop
Telling People About Your Trades
Stop
telling people about your trades!
Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with
words. If
you keep telling others about your open positions, you are
encouraging them
to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'.
While you
have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this
private,
and not discuss your successes or failures with another living
soul. You do
not need to hear another person's response regarding your
effectiveness or
ineffectiveness as a trader.
The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to
introspectively work
on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to
sympathise or
to congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your
business.
From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford
Page 58
This post originally posted at:
www.trendtrader. co.cc
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
iya tiap orang punya pandangan yang berbeda di milis ob juga sebenernya pisau mata 2 , kadang melihat ada yg mau buy, malah kesempatan untuk buang barang... ada pak jsx dan pasukan nya, mau buy, yah bandar mengunakan kesempatan ini untuk distribusi... jadi ada baiknya juga untuk menahan bicara, tapi yah bagaimana tidak ada yg tahu secara pasti biarkan semua berjalan dengan alami, rest n relax dan serahkan pada yang diatas saja --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well.. tiap orang bisa punya pandangan sendiri dan masing2tentang hal ini. --- On Tue, 10/21/08, conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:20 PM sharing view sharing posisi sama telling people about your trades bedanya apa maklum agak rancu disini, saya sih cenderung ok2 aja sharing view dan posisi karena prosesnya bisa profit dan prosesnya bisa loss itu yg harus dipelajari. mungkin lebih tepatnya, stop telling people about your trades, without explanation or view ? klo ada penjelasan ok la heehehhe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ ... wrote: Proses belajarnya pak yang penting.. Sharing view sih gk masalah pak... Sharing posisi jg gk dilarang... --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Iwan.Budi@ . Iwan.Budi@ .. wrote: From: Iwan.Budi@ . Iwan.Budi@ .. Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:52 PM Buat saya, hal yg paling penting dari Om T, bukanlah dianya profit ato rugi. Tapi penjelasannya dari sisi technical. Grafik2nya sangat membantu mengerti apa yg dicoba dijelaskan. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:45 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita telah menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita sedang profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu mungkin akan membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi profit tapi anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu juga bisa menyakiti teman anda. Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar penilaian kita ke market tetap objektif --- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM Make sense..., better keep private , ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
iya tiap orang punya pandangan yang berbeda di milis ob juga sebenernya pisau mata 2 , kadang melihat ada yg mau buy, malah kesempatan untuk buang barang... ada pak jsx dan pasukan nya, mau buy, yah bandar mengunakan kesempatan ini untuk distribusi... jadi ada baiknya juga untuk menahan bicara, tapi yah bagaimana tidak ada yg tahu secara pasti biarkan semua berjalan dengan alami, rest n relax dan serahkan pada yang diatas saja --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well.. tiap orang bisa punya pandangan sendiri dan masing2tentang hal ini. --- On Tue, 10/21/08, conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:20 PM sharing view sharing posisi sama telling people about your trades bedanya apa maklum agak rancu disini, saya sih cenderung ok2 aja sharing view dan posisi karena prosesnya bisa profit dan prosesnya bisa loss itu yg harus dipelajari. mungkin lebih tepatnya, stop telling people about your trades, without explanation or view ? klo ada penjelasan ok la heehehhe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ ... wrote: Proses belajarnya pak yang penting.. Sharing view sih gk masalah pak... Sharing posisi jg gk dilarang... --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Iwan.Budi@ . Iwan.Budi@ .. wrote: From: Iwan.Budi@ . Iwan.Budi@ .. Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:52 PM Buat saya, hal yg paling penting dari Om T, bukanlah dianya profit ato rugi. Tapi penjelasannya dari sisi technical. Grafik2nya sangat membantu mengerti apa yg dicoba dijelaskan. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:45 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita telah menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita sedang profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu mungkin akan membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi profit tapi anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu juga bisa menyakiti teman anda. Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar penilaian kita ke market tetap objektif --- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM Make sense..., better keep private , ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan..., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe.., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak.. Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT.. Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan saya yg paling salut beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau mereview.. Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana, tapi kalo bener I TOLD YOU.. _ Dari: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 21 Oktober, 2008 13:44:33 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita telah menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita sedang profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu mungkin akan membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi profit tapi anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu juga bisa menyakiti teman anda. Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar penilaian kita ke market tetap objektif --- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM Make sense..., better keep private., ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to introspectively work on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on
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Iya Positve Thinking saja Saling Mengingatkan sesama OB'ers I Love OB We All Do 2008/10/21, conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan..., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe.., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak.. Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT.. Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan saya yg paling salut beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau mereview.. Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana, tapi kalo bener I TOLD YOU.. _ Dari: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 21 Oktober, 2008 13:44:33 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita telah menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita sedang profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu mungkin akan membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi profit tapi anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu juga bisa menyakiti teman anda. Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar penilaian kita ke market tetap objektif --- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM Make sense..., better keep private., ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to
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A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come? The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do. nambahin aja dikit --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak.. Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT.. Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan saya yg paling salut beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau mereview.. Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana, tapi kalo bener I TOLD YOU.. _ Dari: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ ... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Selasa, 21 Oktober, 2008 13:44:33 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita telah menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita sedang profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu mungkin akan membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi profit tapi anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu juga bisa menyakiti teman anda. Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar penilaian kita ke market tetap objektif --- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader
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Betol Pak... Selain itu perlu disadari juga bahwa kita adalah sesame street (halah...sesama manusia kaliii...) walaupun tdk jarang juga kalo lagi senggang saya terbiasa memamah biak (hwadoh...jadi kambing donk:-p) Eh topiknya serius ya Maap...maap Tks Best Regards --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, indeks bei3000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iya Positve Thinking saja Saling Mengingatkan sesama OB'ers I Love OB We All Do 2008/10/21, conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat
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Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT - Original Message From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come? The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do. nambahin aja dikit --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak... Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT.. Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan saya yg paling salut beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau mereview.. Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana, tapi kalo bener I TOLD YOU.. _ Dari: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ ... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Selasa, 21 Oktober, 2008 13:44:33 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin
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Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan..., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe.., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak.. Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT.. Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan saya yg paling salut beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau mereview.. Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana, tapi kalo bener I TOLD YOU.. _ Dari: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Selasa, 21 Oktober, 2008 13:44:33 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita telah menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita sedang profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu mungkin akan membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi profit tapi anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu juga bisa menyakiti teman anda. Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar penilaian kita ke market tetap objektif --- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM Make sense..., better keep private., ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to
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not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT - Original Message From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come? The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do. nambahin aja dikit --- On *Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com* wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak.. Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT.. Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan saya yg paling salut beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau mereview.. Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana, tapi kalo bener I TOLD YOU.. _ Dari: Pengamat
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Saya sudah lihat postingan2 pak JT, hasil nya banyak yg Ok. Kalau memang mengganggu yg lain , mohon agar pak JT berkenan mengirimkan fortfolio harian by JAPRI . jadi yg ingin dikirimi portfolio harian oleh pak JT sebaiknya mendaftar dulu. Gimana pak JT boleh kan ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sense..., better keep private., ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to introspectively work on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to sympathise or to congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your business. From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford Page 58 This post originally posted at: www.trendtrader.co.cc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1735 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 2:52 PM
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--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not realy work? are you sure? yang bilang TA not works perlu belajar TA lagi... minimal TA bilang : IT IS DOWNTREND, sejak index masih 2000. he3
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Lha, emang salahnya pak PM apa sih??? pak PM juga ngga nyerang / bbilang buat pak JT ngga posting2 lagi,he3... Positiv aja.. balik ke masing2 karena itu berhubungan dengan psikologis. makin kita mnceritakan trading kita, maka makin berat beban kita juga dalam trading. Bisa jadi makin Greed atau makin fear. bisa jadi ragu2 buat Cl karena takut MALU (kan udah cerita beli apa aja), dll.. tapi ya itu, behubung denga psikologis ya kalau bisa meng handle emosi ya silahkan saja... jangan saling nyerang gini ah.. jadi ngga enak... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Maksudnya apa ya, Pak PM ? Kalo mo polling, saya YAKIN : 99% mengharapkan Pak JT telling people about his trades ! karena postingan beliau sangat dinantikan oleh para Nyangkuters, Newbies,... dan mungkin juga para profesional. Dan saya YAKIN : 99% appreciate Pak JT for his generosity of sharing his skills in trading. so the results will be only 1% yang sakit hati ! So, Please don't discourage someone to do useful things to help others ! Keep on POSTED ! Pak JT, we are always on your side. Plus... what is the main purpose of OB anyway ? Gossiping ? Come on ! ... * On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to introspectively work on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to sympathise or to congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your business. From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford Page 58 This post originally posted at: www.trendtrader.co.cc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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tidak persis seperti itu pak,,, ada batasan2 T.A yg menjaga harga namun karena kondisi global market juga tidak sehat maka saya terkadang meng-kombinasi kan T.A dgn Economic Indicator. namun bila nanti malam ada hal2 yg sangat criucial dan arah nya lebih ke sentiment negatif sore nya saya uda bersih barang ,, i am avoid a T.A for temporary n watch CNBC. just simple strategy trading in risk market. Mon 20 10:00am USD Fed Chairman Bernanke Testifies 10:00am USD CB Leading Index m/m 0.3% -0.2% -0.9% 12:45pm USD FOMC Member Kroszner Speaks Tue Oct 21 7:30pm USD Treasury Sec Paulson Speaks 7:45pm USD FOMC Member Stern Speaks Regards SAT - Original Message From: M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:48:19 PM Subject: Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT - Original Message From: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come? The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do. nambahin aja dikit --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business... Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM
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yah sudahlah kurang lebih artinya masing2 itu, hehehe. bedanya TA masing2 kan mungkin masalah time framenya. btw sekarang ada TA mutlak yaitu : TA buang barang alias Teknik Asing Buang Barang, hehehe... salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tidak persis seperti itu pak,,, ada batasan2 T.A yg menjaga harga namun karena kondisi global market juga tidak sehat maka saya terkadang meng-kombinasi kan T.A dgn Economic Indicator. namun bila nanti malam ada hal2 yg sangat criucial dan arah nya lebih ke sentiment negatif sore nya saya uda bersih barang ,, i am avoid a T.A for temporary n watch CNBC. just simple strategy trading in risk market. Mon 20 10:00am USD Fed Chairman Bernanke Testifies 10:00am USD CB Leading Index m/m 0.3% -0.2% -0.9% 12:45pm USD FOMC Member Kroszner Speaks Tue Oct 21 7:30pm USD Treasury Sec Paulson Speaks 7:45pm USD FOMC Member Stern Speaks Regards SAT
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*memang sebnrnya ga ada yg salah,biasalah bung klo saat ini rekan2 lbh sensi,coba klo market lg rally bullish,sy yakin tanggapan2 ke bung PM pasti lain,sy jd kasihan sm bung PM JT,lha wong sama2 sdh rugi porto folionya msh jg dibikin mumet,mending dengerin lagu oma irama...yuk kita santaii atau dr koes plus...hati senang walaupun tak punya uang ooh :D* --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lha, emang salahnya pak PM apa sih??? pak PM juga ngga nyerang / bbilang buat pak JT ngga posting2 lagi,he3... Positiv aja.. balik ke masing2 karena itu berhubungan dengan psikologis. makin kita mnceritakan trading kita, maka makin berat beban kita juga dalam trading. Bisa jadi makin Greed atau makin fear. bisa jadi ragu2 buat Cl karena takut MALU (kan udah cerita beli apa aja), dll.. tapi ya itu, behubung denga psikologis ya kalau bisa meng handle emosi ya silahkan saja... jangan saling nyerang gini ah.. jadi ngga enak... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young fifiyoung03@ wrote: *Maksudnya apa ya, Pak PM ? Kalo mo polling, saya YAKIN : 99% mengharapkan Pak JT telling people about his trades ! karena postingan beliau sangat dinantikan oleh para Nyangkuters, Newbies,... dan mungkin juga para profesional. Dan saya YAKIN : 99% appreciate Pak JT for his generosity of sharing his skills in trading. so the results will be only 1% yang sakit hati ! So, Please don't discourage someone to do useful things to help others ! Keep on POSTED ! Pak JT, we are always on your side. Plus... what is the main purpose of OB anyway ? Gossiping ? Come on ! ... * On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Pengamat Market kalipatullah@wrote: Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to introspectively work on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to sympathise or to congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your business. From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford Page 58 This post originally posted at: www.trendtrader.co.cc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..! gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :)) ciao! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT - Original Message From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come? The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do. nambahin aja dikit --- On *Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com* wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ . wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se- objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Iwan.Budi@ . Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak.. Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT
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sebenarnya memang riskan juga bagi bung JT mengungkapkan posisinya selama ini.. beli di harga ini.. jual di harga itu.. ibarat di medan perang, sang operator radio tersadap komunikasinya oleh pihak lawan bahwa pasukannya berada di koordinat x,y.. riskan bukan? dengan mudahnya pesawat pembom akan mengebom pasukan tsb dalam waktu sekejap. bukannya saya kontra dengan bung JT dan csnya lho.. silahkan tunjukkan medan perangnya namun ga perlu kan sampe harus nunjukkin koordinatnya juga.. Mbah pun kalau sudah teriak komando serbu, ya serbu aja..ga perlu di harga berapa kan? cukup menunjukkan medan perangnya yang potensial menjanjikan.. posisi? ya ambil masing2 .. siapa yang hokie ya dia yang te it.. hehehe.. seperti kata pepatah: posisi menentukan prestasi.. ciao! salam cuan selalu.. sehat dan umur panjang.. TerryAstradika --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, John Rull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya sudah lihat postingan2 pak JT, hasil nya banyak yg Ok. Kalau memang mengganggu yg lain , mohon agar pak JT berkenan mengirimkan fortfolio harian by JAPRI . jadi yg ingin dikirimi portfolio harian oleh pak JT sebaiknya mendaftar dulu. Gimana pak JT boleh kan ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote: Make sense..., better keep private., ok I'll stop telling people about my trade. Thanks for the reminding. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Stop telling people about your trades! Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or ineffectiveness as a trader. The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to introspectively work on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to sympathise or to congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your business. From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford Page 58 This post originally posted at: www.trendtrader.co.cc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1735 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 2:52 PM
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TA sometimes works the way we *don't* want. :D jadi gimana dong.. 2008/10/21 Terry Astradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..! gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :)) ciao! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT - Original Message From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come? The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do. nambahin aja dikit --- On *Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com* wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ . wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se- objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Iwan.Budi@ . Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5
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DJI saat ini turun lagi -200. Assume TA IHSG bagus tapi kalo DJI tutup -10%(assume) malem ini, apa gunanya TA IHSG ?. Point pak Sathya ada benarnya... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ren Joesriemerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TA sometimes works the way we *don't* want. :D jadi gimana dong.. 2008/10/21 Terry Astradika [EMAIL PROTECTED] nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..! gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :)) ciao! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih alfatih.aati@ wrote: not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- prassathya@ Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT
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Kadang-kadang memang TA bisa menjebak kalau pas masuknya saat penutupan dengan asumsi TA bakal bagus, pas Malamnya Dow anjlok, semua balik ke indicator economy (FA ya Mbah?) Tapi kayaknya ini masalah TA dan FA dah sering dibahas di OB deh, dak usah diperdebatkan lagi, cukup baca aja posting2 suhu yang telah lalu.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DJI saat ini turun lagi -200. Assume TA IHSG bagus tapi kalo DJI tutup -10%(assume) malem ini, apa gunanya TA IHSG ?. Point pak Sathya ada benarnya... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ren Joesriemerst indahrenata@ wrote: TA sometimes works the way we *don't* want. :D jadi gimana dong.. 2008/10/21 Terry Astradika astradika@ nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..! gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :)) ciao! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih alfatih.aati@ wrote: not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- prassathya@ Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT
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pak sAThya dan senior 2 OB, untuk mengetahui jadwal pengumuman penting di DowJ AS lihat dimana ? Tq -NP- - Original Message From: -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:03:16 PM Subject: Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades tidak persis seperti itu pak,,, ada batasan2 T.A yg menjaga harga namun karena kondisi global market juga tidak sehat maka saya terkadang meng-kombinasi kan T.A dgn Economic Indicator. namun bila nanti malam ada hal2 yg sangat criucial dan arah nya lebih ke sentiment negatif sore nya saya uda bersih barang ,, i am avoid a T.A for temporary n watch CNBC. just simple strategy trading in risk market. Mon 20 10:00am USD Fed Chairman Bernanke Testifies 10:00am USD CB Leading Index m/m 0.3% -0.2% -0.9% 12:45pm USD FOMC Member Kroszner Speaks Tue Oct 21 7:30pm USD Treasury Sec Paulson Speaks 7:45pm USD FOMC Member Stern Speaks Regards SAT - Original Message From: M Alfatih alfatih.aati@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:48:19 PM Subject: Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Begini aja biar adil .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT - Original Message From: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come? The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do. nambahin aja dikit --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Pak JT, Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 saja...tanda alam? hehe Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) Rei On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Dear All, Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business.. Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! Best Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. Yang jelas
