AW: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ -
duh. untung gue ga ngerti inggris. lg pada ngomongin apaan sih? Von: Ruz7 indeksbei3...@gmail.com An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: Samstag, den 20. Juni 2009, 15:32:00 Uhr Betreff: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA The article is not yours, but this statement is : Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu May I Know the reason behind that statement ? Btw: Tanda Alam, Milis Dibikin Rame. RUPS sebentar lagi. :) Be There, Be Behind or Left Behind Powered By FREN BondBerry. (Bayar Pake Daun). Indeksbei3000® -Original Message- From: Vaulstrad vaulst...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:16:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA I guess it is about how you stand. first for that article, i am not the writer. Of course i know that if we keep talking this issue never resolve and BUMI still at the lowest level. But it is not about the share price. This is how you should stand. Even Mappi can extend time to talk to BUMI for the outcome. If BUMI agree that it is publish. If not let adjust it to everyone favour. This is call independent. I believe that he should stand for us. that what the leader of minority shareholder right? maybe he forget. He is just worries if this thing take longer time BUMI share price will be at rock bottom. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Santoso ariasant...@... wrote: Dear PH, I suppose that u need to learn about the difference of law ethics. Should u do fart in front of us, it would be unfavorable to many of us; however we couldn't sue you for that. It's not a law-breaking thing so we can't take any legal action. In fact we are not happy for that action and the bad smell left for us. It's about ethics in social relationship. Below allegation in public is managed under law. Please be so kind to ensure that you will settle it. Cordially, Ace Original Message Subject: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:04:02 -0700 (PDT) From: PHâ„¢ vaulst...@... Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com PHâ„¢ wrote: Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,â€� with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. But even here Bumi was given an easy way out †all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down to a “reasonableâ€� level, which it says it is now in the process of doing. The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in different fiscal years the issue of materiality did
Re: AW: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ -
Guten Abend Mr. CC Would you like me to translate in German ? :) Btw, WIKA bagaimana Bos ? TP akhir tahun brp :) Powered By FREN BondBerry. (Bayar Pake Daun). Indeksbei3000® -Original Message- From: Cleopatras Cat cleopatras.c...@yahoo.de Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:42:15 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: AW: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - duh. untung gue ga ngerti inggris. lg pada ngomongin apaan sih? Von: Ruz7 indeksbei3...@gmail.com An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: Samstag, den 20. Juni 2009, 15:32:00 Uhr Betreff: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA The article is not yours, but this statement is : Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu May I Know the reason behind that statement ? Btw: Tanda Alam, Milis Dibikin Rame. RUPS sebentar lagi. :) Be There, Be Behind or Left Behind Powered By FREN BondBerry. (Bayar Pake Daun). Indeksbei3000® -Original Message- From: Vaulstrad vaulst...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:16:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA I guess it is about how you stand. first for that article, i am not the writer. Of course i know that if we keep talking this issue never resolve and BUMI still at the lowest level. But it is not about the share price. This is how you should stand. Even Mappi can extend time to talk to BUMI for the outcome. If BUMI agree that it is publish. If not let adjust it to everyone favour. This is call independent. I believe that he should stand for us. that what the leader of minority shareholder right? maybe he forget. He is just worries if this thing take longer time BUMI share price will be at rock bottom. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Santoso ariasant...@... wrote: Dear PH, I suppose that u need to learn about the difference of law ethics. Should u do fart in front of us, it would be unfavorable to many of us; however we couldn't sue you for that. It's not a law-breaking thing so we can't take any legal action. In fact we are not happy for that action and the bad smell left for us. It's about ethics in social relationship. Below allegation in public is managed under law. Please be so kind to ensure that you will settle it. Cordially, Ace Original Message Subject: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ - APA GUE BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:04:02 -0700 (PDT) From: PHâ„¢ vaulst...@... Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com PHâ„¢ wrote: Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang tertentu --- Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, nothing much has changed. However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator †not to mention the interests of small investors †it now appears that it’s a case of “out of sight, out of mind,â€� with analysts and even Bumi’s minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms †PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara †for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions were overpriced. It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders †which was never given †Âand that some of the coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was that the price paid for one of the targets
