Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik -sAThya-
Begini aja biar adil ..
Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih 
info Economic Indicator.
karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n 
global economic reaction.
T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global 
Economic Indicator.
 
Rgds
SAT



- Original Message 
From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM
Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades


A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful
people listen to you? How come?

The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with
God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right
intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what
to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or
secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God
will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child
because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just
remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention.
Then you can do it as I do.

nambahin aja dikit

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:

From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM


Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak 
PM...


2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au

jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan

seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market

dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca..

karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu /
informasi

hahahahaha 

biar diskusinya sehat

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:

 Pak JT,
 
 Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu
 banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market
 keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2
 saja...tanda alam? hehe
 Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual.
 Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak
 setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-)
 
 Rei
 
 
 On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
  Dear All,
 
 
 
  Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih.,
sampe2 cover
  pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business..
 
 
 
  Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade
position..,
  karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat
  berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama
  dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran.
 
 
 
  Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective
mungkin.
  Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !!
 
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
 
 
  JsxTrader
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
  On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
  Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
 
 
 
  Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya.
 
  Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal.
 
  Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya.
 
  Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda.
 
  Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya),
bahwa
  masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish.
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
  On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi
  Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
 
 
 
  Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak...
 
  Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT..
 
  Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan
saya yg
  paling salut
 
  beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau
  mereview..
 
  Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana,
 
  tapi kalo bener  I TOLD YOU..
 
 
 
  _
 
  Dari: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ ...
  Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Terkirim: Selasa, 21 Oktober, 2008 13:44:33
  Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
 
 
  Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana.
  Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau
menelusuri
  lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita
lupakan
 
  Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin 

Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik M Alfatih
not realy work? are you sure?

2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Begini aja biar adil ..

 Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah
 kasih info Economic Indicator.

 karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam
 n global economic reaction.

 T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global
 Economic Indicator.



 Rgds

 SAT


 - Original Message 
 From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM
 Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and
 powerful
 people listen to you? How come?

 The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest
 with
 God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and
 right
 intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart
 what
 to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal)
 or
 secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by
 God
 will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child
 because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just
 remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right
 intention.
 Then you can do it as I do.

 nambahin aja dikit

 --- On *Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com* wrote:

 From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM

  Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah
 ngomong pak PM...

 2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan

 seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market

 dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca..

 karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu /
 informasi

 hahahahaha

 biar diskusinya sehat

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
 
  Pak JT,
 
  Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu
  banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market
  keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2
  saja...tanda alam? hehe
  Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual.
  Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak
  setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-)
 
  Rei
 
 
  On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
   Dear All,
  
  
  
   Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih.,
 sampe2 cover
   pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business..
  
  
  
   Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade
 position..,
   karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat
   berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama
   dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran.
  
  
  
   Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective
 mungkin.
   Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !!
  
  
  
   Best Regards,
  
  
  
   JsxTrader
  
  
  
   From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 ]
   On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
   Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
   Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
  
  
  
   Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya.
  
   Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal.
  
   Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya.
  
   Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda.
  
   Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya),
 bahwa
   masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish.
  
  
  
   From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 ]
   On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi
   Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
  
  
  
   Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak..
  
   Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT..
  
   Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan
 saya yg
   paling salut
  
   beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau
   mereview..
  
   Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, HILANG entah kemana,
  
   tapi kalo bener  I TOLD YOU..
  
  
  
   _
  
   Dari: Pengamat 

OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik hendrik_lwww
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 not realy work? are you sure?
 


yang bilang TA not works perlu belajar TA lagi...
minimal TA bilang : IT IS DOWNTREND, sejak index masih 2000. he3



Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik -sAThya-
tidak persis seperti itu pak,,, ada batasan2 T.A yg menjaga harga 
namun karena kondisi global market juga tidak sehat maka saya terkadang 
meng-kombinasi kan T.A dgn Economic Indicator.
namun bila nanti malam ada hal2 yg sangat criucial dan arah nya lebih ke 
sentiment negatif
sore nya saya uda bersih barang ,, i am avoid a T.A for temporary n watch CNBC.
just simple strategy trading in risk market.
 
Mon 20
10:00am  USD  Fed Chairman Bernanke Testifies  
10:00am  USD  CB Leading Index m/m   0.3% -0.2% -0.9% 
12:45pm  USD  FOMC Member Kroszner Speaks  
Tue
Oct 21  
7:30pm  USD  Treasury Sec Paulson Speaks  
7:45pm  USD  FOMC Member Stern Speaks  

Regards
SAT



- Original Message 
From: M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:48:19 PM
Subject: Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades


not realy work? are you sure?


2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

Begini aja biar adil  ..
Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih 
info Economic Indicator.
karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n 
global economic reaction.
T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global 
Economic Indicator.
 
Rgds
SAT



- Original Message 
From: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM
Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades


A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful
people listen to you? How come?

The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with
God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right
intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what
to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or
secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God
will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child
because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just
remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention.
Then you can do it as I do.

nambahin aja dikit

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:

From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.. com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM


Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak 
PM...


2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au

jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan

seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market

dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca..

karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu /
informasi

hahahahaha 

biar diskusinya sehat

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:

 Pak JT,
 
 Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu
 banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market
 keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2
 saja...tanda alam? hehe
 Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual.
 Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak
 setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-)
 
 Rei
 
 
 On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
  Dear All,
 
 
 
  Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih.,
sampe2 cover
  pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business...
 
 
 
  Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade
position..,
  karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat
  berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama
  dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran.
 
 
 
  Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective
mungkin.
  Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !!
 
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
 
 
  JsxTrader
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
  On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
  Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
 
 
 
  Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya.
 
  Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal.
 
  Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya.
 
  Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda.
 
  Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya),
bahwa
  masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish.
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
  On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi
  Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM

OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik kangduren
yah sudahlah kurang lebih artinya masing2 itu, hehehe.
bedanya TA masing2 kan mungkin masalah time framenya.
btw sekarang ada TA mutlak yaitu : TA buang barang alias Teknik Asing
Buang Barang, hehehe...

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tidak persis seperti itu pak,,, ada batasan2 T.A yg menjaga harga 
 namun karena kondisi global market juga tidak sehat maka saya terkadang 
 meng-kombinasi kan T.A dgn Economic Indicator.
 namun bila nanti malam ada hal2 yg sangat criucial dan arah nya
lebih ke sentiment negatif
 sore nya saya uda bersih barang ,, i am avoid a T.A for temporary n
watch CNBC.
 just simple strategy trading in risk market.
  
 Mon 20
 10:00am  USD  Fed Chairman Bernanke Testifies  
 10:00am  USD  CB Leading Index m/m   0.3% -0.2% -0.9% 
 12:45pm  USD  FOMC Member Kroszner Speaks  
 Tue
 Oct 21  
 7:30pm  USD  Treasury Sec Paulson Speaks  
 7:45pm  USD  FOMC Member Stern Speaks  
 
 Regards
 SAT
 
 
 




OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik Terry Astradika
nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..!

gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :))

ciao!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 not realy work? are you sure?
 
 2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Begini aja biar adil ..
 
  Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak 
Kalipatulah
  kasih info Economic Indicator.
 
  karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri 
paman Sam
  n global economic reaction.
 
  T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC 
and Global
  Economic Indicator.
 
 
 
  Rgds
 
  SAT
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM
  Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About 
Your Trades
 
 A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly 
and
  powerful
  people listen to you? How come?
 
  The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always 
honest
  with
  God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere 
good and
  right
  intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into 
your heart
  what
  to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said 
openly(verbal)
  or
  secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been 
opened by
  God
  will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an 
ordinary child
  because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your 
heart. Just
  remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and 
right
  intention.
  Then you can do it as I do.
 
  nambahin aja dikit
 
  --- On *Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com* wrote:
 
  From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your 
Trades
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM
 
   Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada 
salah
  ngomong pak PM...
 
  2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan
 
  seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market
 
  dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca..
 
  karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi 
ilmu /
  informasi
 
  hahahahaha
 
  biar diskusinya sehat
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
  
   Pak JT,
  
   Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah 
membantu
   banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat 
Market
   keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2
   saja...tanda alam? hehe
   Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting 
as usual.
   Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg 
tidak
   setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-)
  
   Rei
  
  
   On 10/21/08, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ . wrote:
Dear All,
   
   
   
Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen 
nih.,
  sampe2 cover
pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business..
   
   
   
Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of 
trade
  position..,
karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini 
sangat
berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap 
loss sama
dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran.
   
   
   
Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-
objective
  mungkin.
Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope 
A live !!
   
   
   
Best Regards,
   
   
   
JsxTrader
   
   
   
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
  ]
On Behalf Of Iwan.Budi@ .
Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your 
Trades
   
   
   
Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya.
   
Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal.
   
Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - 
buruknya.
   
Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda.
   
Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak 
saya),
  bahwa
masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish.
   
   
   
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
  ]
On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi
Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About 
Your Trades
   
   
   
Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak..
   
Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT..
   
   

Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik Ren Joesriemerst
TA sometimes works the way we *don't* want. :D jadi gimana dong..

2008/10/21 Terry Astradika [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..!

 gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :))

 ciao!


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  not realy work? are you sure?
 
  2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Begini aja biar adil ..
  
   Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak
 Kalipatulah
   kasih info Economic Indicator.
  
   karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri
 paman Sam
   n global economic reaction.
  
   T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC
 and Global
   Economic Indicator.
  
  
  
   Rgds
  
   SAT
  
  
   - Original Message 
   From: Pengamat Market [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM
   Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About
 Your Trades
  
  A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly
 and
   powerful
   people listen to you? How come?
  
   The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always
 honest
   with
   God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere
 good and
   right
   intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into
 your heart
   what
   to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said
 openly(verbal)
   or
   secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been
 opened by
   God
   will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an
 ordinary child
   because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your
 heart. Just
   remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and
 right
   intention.
   Then you can do it as I do.
  
   nambahin aja dikit
  
   --- On *Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com* wrote:
  
   From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your
 Trades
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
   Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM
  
Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada
 salah
   ngomong pak PM...
  
   2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan
  
   seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market
  
   dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca..
  
   karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi
 ilmu /
   informasi
  
   hahahahaha
  
   biar diskusinya sehat
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,
   Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
   
Pak JT,
   
Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah
 membantu
banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat
 Market
keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2
saja...tanda alam? hehe
Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting
 as usual.
Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg
 tidak
setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-)
   
Rei
   
   
On 10/21/08, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ . wrote:
 Dear All,



 Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen
 nih.,
   sampe2 cover
 pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business..



 Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of
 trade
   position..,
 karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini
 sangat
 berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap
 loss sama
 dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran.



 Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-
 objective
   mungkin.
 Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope
 A live !!



 Best Regards,



 JsxTrader



 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com
   ]
 On Behalf Of Iwan.Budi@ .
 Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your
 Trades



 Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya.

 Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal.

 Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik -
 buruknya.

 Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda.

 Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak
 saya),
   bahwa
 masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish.



 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com
   ]
 On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 

OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
DJI saat ini turun lagi -200.

Assume TA IHSG bagus tapi kalo DJI tutup -10%(assume) malem ini, apa
gunanya TA IHSG ?.

Point pak Sathya ada benarnya...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ren Joesriemerst 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TA sometimes works the way we *don't* want. :D jadi gimana dong..
 
 2008/10/21 Terry Astradika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..!
 
  gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :))
 
  ciao!
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih alfatih.aati@
  wrote:
  
   not realy work? are you sure?
  
   2008/10/21 -sAThya- prassathya@
  
  Begini aja biar adil ..
   
Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak
  Kalipatulah
kasih info Economic Indicator.
   
karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari 
negeri
  paman Sam
n global economic reaction.
   
T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on 
CNBC
  and Global
Economic Indicator.
   
   
   
Rgds
   
SAT
   




OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik icchanks
Kadang-kadang memang TA bisa menjebak kalau pas masuknya saat
penutupan dengan asumsi TA bakal bagus, pas Malamnya Dow anjlok, semua
balik ke  indicator economy (FA ya Mbah?) 
Tapi kayaknya ini masalah TA dan FA dah sering dibahas di OB deh, dak
usah diperdebatkan lagi, cukup baca aja posting2 suhu yang telah lalu.. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DJI saat ini turun lagi -200.
 
 Assume TA IHSG bagus tapi kalo DJI tutup -10%(assume) malem ini, apa
 gunanya TA IHSG ?.
 
 Point pak Sathya ada benarnya...
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ren Joesriemerst 
 indahrenata@ wrote:
 
  TA sometimes works the way we *don't* want. :D jadi gimana dong..
  
  2008/10/21 Terry Astradika astradika@
  
   nah lu! bos TA marah tuh..!
  
   gitu lah Pak Al, harap maklum.. :))
  
   ciao!
  
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M Alfatih alfatih.aati@
   wrote:
   
not realy work? are you sure?
   
2008/10/21 -sAThya- prassathya@
   
   Begini aja biar adil ..

 Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak
   Kalipatulah
 kasih info Economic Indicator.

 karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari 
 negeri
   paman Sam
 n global economic reaction.

 T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on 
 CNBC
   and Global
 Economic Indicator.



 Rgds

 SAT






Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik Ned Putra
pak  sAThya dan senior 2 OB,  untuk mengetahui  jadwal   pengumuman penting di  
DowJ AS lihat dimana ? Tq

-NP-


- Original Message 
From: -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:03:16 PM
Subject: Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades


tidak persis seperti itu pak,,, ada batasan2 T.A yg menjaga harga 
namun karena kondisi global market juga tidak sehat maka saya terkadang 
meng-kombinasi kan T.A dgn Economic Indicator.
namun bila nanti malam ada hal2 yg sangat criucial dan arah nya lebih ke 
sentiment negatif
sore nya saya uda bersih barang ,, i am avoid a T.A for temporary n watch CNBC.
just simple strategy trading in risk market.
 
Mon 20
10:00am  USD  Fed Chairman Bernanke Testifies  
10:00am  USD  CB Leading Index m/m   0.3% -0.2% -0.9% 
12:45pm  USD  FOMC Member Kroszner Speaks  
Tue
Oct 21  
7:30pm  USD  Treasury Sec Paulson Speaks  
7:45pm  USD  FOMC Member Stern Speaks  

Regards
SAT



- Original Message 
From: M Alfatih alfatih.aati@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:48:19 PM
Subject: Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades


not realy work? are you sure?


2008/10/21 -sAThya- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

Begini aja biar adil  ..
Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih 
info Economic Indicator.
karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n 
global economic reaction.
T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global 
Economic Indicator.
 
Rgds
SAT



- Original Message 
From: Pengamat Market kalipatullah@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM
Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades


A good lady once asked a young man: I wonder why the elderly and powerful
people listen to you? How come?

The young man replied: Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with
God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right
intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what
to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or
secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God
will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child
because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just
remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention.
Then you can do it as I do.

nambahin aja dikit

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:

From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM


Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak 
PM...


2008/10/21 conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au

jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan

seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market

dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca..

karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu /
informasi

hahahahaha 

biar diskusinya sehat

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:

 Pak JT,
 
 Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu
 banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market
 keberatan atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2
 saja...tanda alam? hehe
 Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual.
 Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak
 setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-)
 
 Rei
 
 
 On 10/21/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:
  Dear All,
 
 
 
  Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih.,
sampe2 cover
  pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business..
 
 
 
  Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade
position..,
  karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat
  berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama
  dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran.
 
 
 
  Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective
mungkin.
  Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !!
 
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
 
 
  JsxTrader
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
  On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
  Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades
 
 
 
  Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya.
 
  Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal.
 
  Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya.
 
  Yang jelas