Re: [obrolan-bandar] A MUST READ for beginner: No 1= GROWTH, No 2 = GROWTH, No 3 = GROWTH

2007-12-11 Terurut Topik Eka Suwandana 
Dan lonjakan laba bisa didapat dari growth organik dan
non prganik.

Organik : Penambahan kapasitas pabrik/jualan macam
ANTM, PGAS, SMGR, BTEL, ISAT, BLTA, MEDC

Atau lewat akuisisi macam BLTA, CPRO, DEWA

Non -Organik: Harga komoditas jualan naik meroket
contoh TINS.

Mau cari yg aman beli yg organik! Nggak masalah
kapasitas naik sedikit asal continue seperti ISAT,
BTEL.
--- OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Apasih yg paling PENTING agar saham yg kita punya
 NAIK banyak ?
 
 Jawabannya bukan di PER atau ROE   !!!
 
 Yang paling menentukan kenaikan harga saham yg
 SPEKTAKULER
 ialah GROWTH ...
 
 Jika Penjualan, Laba operasi dan Laba bersih NAIK
 banyak ,
 maka OTOMATIS harga saham akan naik secara
 SPEKTAKULER..
 Begitu juga sebaliknya.
 
 Sebagai contoh saya kirimkan lagi Financial
 performance untuk
 ANTM dan TINS berikut grafik QUARTERLY GROWTHnya...
 
 
 Regards,
 
 OB Help desk
 
 
 
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   TINS Financial Performance
 (billion Rp)
  
   2007| 
  2006|  2005|
  10-12-07 Q3 Q2 Q1|Q4 Q3
 Q2 Q1|Q4|
 -- -- == -- -- -- ==
 -- -- --
 SALES  6.583  4.078  1.858  4.076  3.004
  1.729809  3.396
 COGS   4.122  2.601  1.259  3.411  2.667
  1.529703  2.916
 GROSS MARG 2.460  1.476599665337
199106479
 GM (%)37 36 32 16 11
 11 13 14
 OPR PROFIT 2.057  1.270523|   381126
 68 47|   213
 OP (%)31 31 28  9  4
  3  5  6
 NET PROFIT 1.264780314|   208 61
 23 11|   107
 NP (%)19 19 16  5  2
  1  1  3
 -- -- == -- -- -- ==
 -- -- --
 STK PRICE  28.650 13.250 12.150 11.850| 4.435  1.770
  1.740  2.025| 1.820
 BOOK VALUE 5.632  4.671  3.959| 3.331  3.048
  2.980  3.052| 3.047
 PBV  5,09   2,35   2,60   2,99|  1,33   0,58
   0,58   0,66|  0,60
 DER 0,54   0,84   1,06|  1,17   0,83
   0,92   0,75|  0,79
 -- -- == -- -- -- ==
 -- -- --
 ROE (%)   59 66 63|12  5
  3  2| 7
 ROA (%)   38 36 30| 5  2
  1  1| 3
 LUPS   4.088  2.524  1.039|   757251
135 93|   424
 EPS2.512  1.551624|   413122
 47 22|   213
 EPS (ANNU) 3.349  3.102  2.498|   413163
 95 91|   213
 PER  8,55   3,95   3,91   4,74| 10,72  10,84
  18,30  22,20|  8,52
 -- -- == -- -- -- ==
 -- -- --
 COP (year)   5,25   2,43   2,40   2,85   5,85   5,27
   6,43   5,40   4,28
 CLOP(year)   5,81   2,99   3,18   3,85  11,01  12,78
  16,58  11,47   9,97
 -- -- == -- -- -- ==
 -- -- --
 Sales Growth(%)  119135129|20
 Op.Prof Growth(%)  1.524  1.767  1.009|78
 EPS Growth(%)  1.953  3.165  2.639|93
 PEG (1) 0,00   0,00   0,00   0,00|  0,11
 -- -- == -- --|-- ==
 -- --|--
 SALES(Qtr) 2.504  2.219  1.858  1.072  1.274
919809791
 OP.PR(Qtr)   787747523254 58
 20 47  9
 NET.P(Qtr)   483466314146 37
 12 11  6
 -- -- == -- --|-- ==
 -- --|--
 ASSET  4.374  4.328  4.100| 3.642  2.801
  2.882  2.681| 2.748
 LIABILITY  1.539  1.977  2.108| 1.965  1.267
  1.381  1.144| 1.214
 EQUITY 2.835  2.351  1.992| 1.676  1.534
  1.500  1.536| 1.534
 CAPITALIS. 14.419  6.668  6.115  5.964| 2.232890
875  1.019|   916
 LEMBAR(JT)   503503503503503
503503503
 -- -- == -- -- -- ==
 -- -- --
  
 See ERROR and OMISSION 
  
 QTR   PRICE NET PRF  Quarterly NET
 PROFIT Growth
 --- --- ---
 |123456789|
  Q3  13.250 483
 |-*
  Q2  12.150 466
 |---*
 7Q1  11.850 314
 |---*
  Q4   4.435 146 |--*
  Q3   1.770  37 |--*
  Q2   1.740  12 |*
 6Q1   2.025  11 |*
  Q4   1.820   6 |*
  
 QTR   PRICE OPR PRF  Quarterly OPERATING
 PROFIT Growth
 --- --- ---
 |123456789|
  Q3  13.250 787
 |-*
  Q2  12.150 747
 |--*
 7Q1  11.850 523
 |*
  Q4   4.435 254 |---*
  Q3   1.770  58 |--*
  Q2   1.740

Re: [obrolan-bandar] A MUST READ for beginner: No 1= GROWTH, No 2 = GROWTH, No 3 = GROWTH

2007-12-11 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA 
And I vote for PGAS.

Natural gas is STAR OF FUTURE ENERGY, crafted to back up diminishing crude
oil that's been getting scarce.

Advanced countries are developing NGVs (Natural Gas Vehicles).

Advantages:
1. NGVs are safer.
2. Natural gas costs lower than gasoline.
3. Natural gas is convenient and abundant.
4. Natural gas prices have exhibited more stable than oil.
5. NGVs have lower maintenance cost.

This is BIG FUTURE PROJECT. Not yet to mention INDUSTRIAL NEED.

I incorporate PGAS as one of leading portfolio in 2008 and ahead.

Besides natural gas, of course BIO-FUEL related.

PS: Growth Acceleration is NOT YET fully applicable in ISX. Corporates are
still *'learning good governance'*.

Love,
Aimee

Re: [obrolan-bandar] A MUST READ for beginner: No 1= GROWTH, No 2 = GROWTH, No 3 = GROWTH

2007-12-11 Terurut Topik Kalyana Mitta 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] A MUST READ for beginner: No 1= GROWTH, No 2 = GROWTH, No 3 = GROWTH

2007-12-10 Terurut Topik Oom senang 
Little correction: the most important thing is GROWTH ACCELERATION

For example:

Growth 100(0) 200(+100%)  250(+25%) 300 (+20%)
It's a declining growth, and it's not good enough

Growth 10(0) 15(+50%) 30(+100%) 60 (+100%) 150(+150%)
It's an accelerating growth from time to time

And I agree on ANTM and TINS



On Dec 11, 2007 12:58 PM, OB Help desk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Apasih yg paling PENTING agar saham yg kita punya NAIK banyak ?

 Jawabannya bukan di PER atau ROE !!!

 Yang paling menentukan kenaikan harga saham yg SPEKTAKULER
 ialah GROWTH ...

 Jika Penjualan, Laba operasi dan Laba bersih NAIK banyak ,
 maka OTOMATIS harga saham akan naik secara SPEKTAKULER..
 Begitu juga sebaliknya.

 Sebagai contoh saya kirimkan lagi Financial performance untuk
 ANTM dan TINS berikut grafik QUARTERLY GROWTHnya...

 Regards,

 OB Help desk

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