Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Santai BroKayaknya BD utama udah keluar dari ANTM and INCO. Ada baiknya 
kita baca bareng2 di bawah ini:
http://www.xstrata.com/annualreport/2007/page38http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_pwwi/is_/ai_n19195805

http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6458516.html

http://www.hatch.ca/Consulting/Knowledge_Base/Articles/European%20Stainless%20Steel.pdf

troyan troyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jadi 
maksudnya kalau dilakukan SS itu karena industrinya udah sunset ? Baca2 lagi 
dong Pak.

--- On Sat, 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 26, 2008, 10:59 PM

Kalau nickel tidak sunset, kenapa INCO SS Pak? 

James Arifin  james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:
 padahal reserve INCO masih lama habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali

On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi  wrote:






 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau
 BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang
 sunset

 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


 Rei  wrote:


 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan  mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

 Andi  Wahyudi  wrote:


 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
 new nickel field di Siberia.

 Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
 Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih
 rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
 http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Stainless_ steel

 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami
 hal yang kurang lebih sama.
 http://www.bloomber g.com/apps/ news?pid= newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always

 Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007
 Kyoto - The  International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
 stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be  higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
 some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
 ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for
 the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
 now available.



 ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
 Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its
 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications 2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications.
 The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
 the world. Sectors such as building  and construction, industrial machinery
 and transport are covered.
 The  Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
 corrosion-resistanc e properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
 stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels
 contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
 applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for
 stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Minggu lalu ada yg bilang ANTM akan breakout? Breakout w/o volume? We can 
proove now apakah tulisan minggu lalu bener apa tidak.
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/77256

No offense, saya tidak pernah memegang INCO dan ANTM sejak Juli 2007..

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santai 
BroKayaknya BD utama udah keluar dari ANTM and INCO. Ada baiknya kita baca 
bareng2 di bawah ini:

http://www.xstrata.com/annualreport/2007/page38http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_pwwi/is_/ai_n19195805

http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6458516.html

http://www.hatch.ca/Consulting/Knowledge_Base/Articles/European%20Stainless%20Steel.pdf

troyan troyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Jadi 
maksudnya kalau dilakukan SS itu karena industrinya udah sunset ? Baca2 lagi 
dong Pak.

--- On Sat, 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 26, 2008, 10:59 PM

Kalau nickel tidak sunset, kenapa INCO SS Pak? 

James Arifin  james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:
 padahal reserve INCO masih lama  habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali

On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi  wrote:






 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau
 BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang
 sunset

 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


 Rei  wrote:


 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan  mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

 Andi  Wahyudi  wrote:


 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
 new nickel field di Siberia.

  Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
 Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih
 rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
 http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Stainless_ steel

 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami
 hal yang kurang lebih sama.
 http://www.bloomber g.com/apps/ news?pid= newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always

 Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007
 Kyoto - The  International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
 stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be  higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
 some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
 ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an  economic and effective solution for
 the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
 now available.



 ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
 Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its
 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications 2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications.
 The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
 the world. Sectors such as building  and construction, industrial machinery
 and transport are covered.
 The  Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
 corrosion-resistanc e properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
 stainless steels. However,  unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels
 contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
 applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for
 stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Industri sunset - BD ingin keluar - BD butuh pembeli - Makanya diSS - 
Supaya banyak yg ambil

troyan troyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Siapa yang 
gak santai bro ? Aneh aja anda mengkaitkan SS dengan industri yang sunset. Dan 
soal bandar dah keluar kata Anda dari INCO dan ANTM itu soal lain lagi yang 
bukan bagian dari analisa Anda sebelumnya. Dan ini bisa dipermasalahkan lagi. 
Jadi hati2 aja bro memberii statement kalo anda gak ngerti benar masalahnya.

--- On Sun, 4/27/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 27, 2008, 7:26 PM

Minggu lalu ada yg bilang ANTM akan breakout? Breakout w/o volume? We can 
proove now apakah tulisan minggu lalu bener apa tidak.
http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ message/77256

No offense, saya tidak pernah memegang INCO dan ANTM sejak Juli 2007..

Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com wrote:
Santai BroKayaknya BD utama udah keluar dari ANTM and INCO. Ada baiknya 
kita baca bareng2 di bawah ini:

http://www.xstrata. com/annualreport /2007/page38http://findarticles 
.com/p/articles/ mi_pwwi/is_ /ai_n19195805

http://www.purchasi  ng.com/article/ CA6458516. html

http://www.hatch. ca/Consulting/ Knowledge_ Base/Articles/ European% 
20Stainless% 20Steel.pdf

troyan troyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:Jadi maksudnya kalau dilakukan SS 
itu karena industrinya udah sunset ? Baca2 lagi dong Pak.

--- On Sat, 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi  andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com wrote:
From: Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN
To:  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, April 26, 2008, 10:59 PM

Kalau nickel tidak sunset, kenapa INCO SS Pak? 

James Arifin  james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:
 padahal reserve INCO masih lama  habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali

On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi  wrote:






 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu  semuanya...Kalau
 BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang
 sunset

 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul  a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


 Rei  wrote:


 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan  mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

 Andi  Wahyudi  wrote:


 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
 new nickel field di Siberia.

  Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
 Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih
 rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
 http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Stainless_ steel

 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1  2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami
 hal yang kurang lebih sama.
 http://www.bloomber g.com/apps/ news?pid=  newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always

 Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 
 May 2007
 Kyoto - The  International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
 stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be  higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
 some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
 ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an  economic and effective solution for
 the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
 now available.



 ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
 Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new  brochures during its
 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications  2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications.
 The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
 the world. Sectors such as building  and construction, industrial machinery
 and transport are covered.
 The  Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
 corrosion-resistanc e properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
 stainless steels. However,  unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels
 contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
 applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the  applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document  for
 stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Landlord
Re: INCO - 

CMIIW, but baru pertama kali dengar nih SS diimplikasikan ke sunset industry
.. selama ini SS=CA dan untuk company yg FAnya baik, CA ini biasanya akan
memberikan nilai positif bagi saham emiten yg bersangkutan ..

 

LL.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:02 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

 



Pasaran stainless steel gak bakalan menyusut mas sampe semua nickel di
dunia habis. Elastomer engineering masih belum bisa menggantikan
stainless steel
Grow nya menurun karena semua sudah jadi terlalu mahal utk standard
industry saat ini

Kalo urusan SS mungkin management INCO atau ANTM merasa harga sahamnya
sudah kemahalan, Sehingga dia juga sulit utk bermain dan mendapatkan dana
segar dari naek turunnya saham tsb

Ini mah CA biasa ajah, ANTM dan INCO masih butuh dana besar utk eksploit
tambangnya. Atau masih butuh dana utk menaikkan penjualannya atau utk
akuisisi tambang lain

Gitu aja koq / A3K


From: [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:02 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]

Kalau nickel tidak sunset, kenapa INCO dan ANTM SS Pak?
Padahal ANTM masih 16 rebu waktu SS, TINS aja skrg udah 32 rebu

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com 
wrote:
padahal reserve INCO masih lama habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali

On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi wrote:






 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu
semuanya...Kalau
 BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang
sedang
 sunset

 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


 Rei wrote:


 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

 Andi Wahyudi wrote:


 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD
untuk
 new nickel field di Siberia.

 Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan
oleh
 Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel
lebih
 rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya
mengalami
 hal yang kurang lebih sama.
 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY
sid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always

 Stainless steel production to grow further - but at a slower rate21 May
2007
 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
 stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005
and
 some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel,
encourage
 ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for
 the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution
is
 now available.

 ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
 Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its
 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications 2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel
applications.
 The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from
around
 the world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery
 and transport are covered.
 The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
 corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins,
austenitic
 stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless
steels
 contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
 applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document
for
 stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Baru pertama kali melihat hubungan SS dan sunsetting share? Silahkan membaca 
buku The Intelligent Investor yg ditulis Benjamin Graham. Engkong Buffet 
memberikan preface di buku ini.

Landlord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
  Re: INCO – 
  CMIIW, but baru pertama kali dengar nih SS diimplikasikan ke sunset industry 
.. selama ini SS=CA dan untuk company yg FAnya baik, CA ini biasanya akan 
memberikan nilai positif bagi saham emiten yg bersangkutan ..
   
  LL.
   
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:02 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN
  
  
   

 
 Pasaran stainless steel gak bakalan menyusut mas sampe semua nickel di
 dunia habis. Elastomer engineering masih belum bisa menggantikan
 stainless steel
 Grow nya menurun karena semua sudah jadi terlalu mahal utk standard
 industry saat ini
 
 Kalo urusan SS mungkin management INCO atau ANTM merasa harga sahamnya
 sudah kemahalan, Sehingga dia juga sulit utk bermain dan mendapatkan dana
 segar dari naek turunnya saham tsb
 
 Ini mah CA biasa ajah, ANTM dan INCO masih butuh dana besar utk eksploit
 tambangnya. Atau masih butuh dana utk menaikkan penjualannya atau utk
 akuisisi tambang lain
 
 Gitu aja koq / A3K
 
 
 From: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi
 Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:02 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
 
 Kalau nickel tidak sunset, kenapa INCO dan ANTM SS Pak?
 Padahal ANTM masih 16 rebu waktu SS, TINS aja skrg udah 32 rebu
 
 James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 padahal reserve INCO masih lama habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
 artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
 view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali
 
 On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau
  BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang
 sedang
  sunset
 
  Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
  baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.
 
 
  Rei wrote:
 
 
  Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
  begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...
 
  Andi Wahyudi wrote:
 
 
  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.
 
  Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
  new nickel field di Siberia.
 
  Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
  Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel
 lebih
  rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel
 
  Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya
 mengalami
  hal yang kurang lebih sama.
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY
 
  May God Bless Us Always
 
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May
 2007
  Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
  stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the
  record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
  some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
  ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for
  the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
  now available.
 
  ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
  Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its
  11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
  Book of New Applications 2007
  ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel
 applications.
  The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
  the world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery
  and transport are covered.
  The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
  Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
  corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
  stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless
 steels
  contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
  applications.
  The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
  stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
  they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for
  stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-27 Terurut Topik Bandar Bola
Saya sependapat dengan Pak Andi mengenai stock split walau dengan alasan
berbeda. Saya memandangnya bukan dari kacamata sunset industry, tapi dari
kacamata perbandaran. Maksudnya SS bisa dilakukan untuk semua industri,
nggak harus sunset industry.

Menurut saya SS adalah corporate action doesn't make any sense. Saya belajar
hal ini dari engkong Warren Buffet. Kalo anda lihat di NYSE, saham Berkshire
Hathaway-nya tidak pernah di-stock-split secara otomatis seluruhnya, makanya
harga BRK-A satu lembar sekarang di USD 126,875 (atau kurang lebih 1,2
milyar rupiah per share). Ada split-an BRK-B 1/30 dari BRK-A, tapi ini
dilakukan untuk alasan yg lain, nggak usah saya jelaskan.

Intinya adalah, SS digunakan umumnya oleh controlling stake-holders atau
influencing stake-holders untuk cash-out sahamnya ke retailers, karena di
harga pra-SS, distribusi sdh sulit untuk dilakukan.

Kalo anda punya saham pra-SS, bersyukurlah, karena umumnya corporate action
ini akan meng-jack-up harga saham kencang. Asal ingat saja untuk lock your
profit. Kalo anda mau icip2 post-SS juga boleh, asal ingat money management
secara disiplin. Segera cut-loss kalo untuk trending-down. Jangan sekali2
averaging down, you will be sorry man, karena horizon bandar melakukan
distribusi bisa bulanan sampai tahunan (kecuali anda main short-term keluar
masuk cepat dengan money management yang ketat).

Waktu INCO melakukan dual-corporate action (bukan cuma single corporate
action berupa SS, biar lebih attractive khan), dengan special dividend dan
stock split, maka saya sangat yakin, bahwa bandar luar negri yang punya INCO
sudah baca trend harge nickel yg sudah dekat peak (tidak harus tunggu harga
di puncak gunung). Ya diaturlah dual corporate action itu, sekaligus dengan
issuance reksa dana khusus sektor tambang untuk makan INCO. Sorry, ini
conspiracy theory versi saya lho ya.

Proses distribusi akan berlangsung terus berbulan2, mungkin bisa bertahun2,
sambil sesekali main-kan gelombang naik turun harga INCO, biar proses
distribusi tersamarkan. Ingat betul ucapan Pak Oentoeng, bandar akan keluar
di keramaian.

Regards,
Bandar Bola


NB. Perhatikan juga harga saham2 yg baru SS beberapa bulan ke depan dari
sekarang, dan nanti tanya kiri kanan, banyakan pada cuan atau buntung. Tanya
kenapa?

2008/4/27 Landlord [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: INCO –

 CMIIW, but baru pertama kali dengar nih SS diimplikasikan ke sunset
 industry .. selama ini SS=CA dan untuk company yg FAnya baik, CA ini
 biasanya akan memberikan nilai positif bagi saham emiten yg bersangkutan ..



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau BD 
ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang sunset

Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a baru 
bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lalu apakah 
produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo begini antm  
inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless  steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007 
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage ISSF to promote 
ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for the main applications 
of stainless steel: a book “The Ferritic Solution” is now available.


  ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007  Kyoto - The International 
Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its 11th 
Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:   Book of New 
Applications 2007 
  ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications. 
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around the 
world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery and 
transport are covered. 
  The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
  Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and 
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic 
stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels 
contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many 
applications. 
  The Ferritic Solution provides  an overview of the properties of ferritic 
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where they 
can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for 
stainless steel users, specifiers and producers. 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Orang beralih dari austenitic ke ferritic sehingga nickel demand turun tapi 
chromium demand naik..Lalu kalau chromium demand naik, chromium price naik, 
orang balik lagi ke austenitic..Gitu aja terus putar-putarMay God Bless Us 
Always

ThyssenKrupp to increase low nickel SS volumes Bloomberg reported that the 
world's biggest stainless steelmaker ThyssenKrupp AG may reduce nickel 
purchases to cut costs as prices of the raw material rise to record highs.
 
 Mr Jurgen H Fechter CEO of ThyssenKrupp's stainless steel division in an 
interview at Kyoto in Japan said that it may increase output of nickel free 
stainless steel to 35% of total production from current 30%. He said clearly if 
the ratio of ferritic rises significantly, we will require less nickel but it 
also depends on our total volume. I don't believe it's a right strategy to 
invest in nickel because we need to maintain flexibility. It is a trend that 
will take a long time. So if you would grow from 30% to 35% in the next two 
years, you would do a very good job.
 
 The nickel price has risen many folds since 2007 as China's economic growth 
fueled demand. The price is driving companies to make nickel free, or ferritic, 
stainless steel and to increase chromium or manganese content. London Metal 
Exchange nickel for delivery in three months rose to a record USD 51,800 a 
metric ton on May 9th 2007.
 
 Global stainless steel output is forecast to rise 5% to 29.8 million tons in 
2007, after rising 17% in 2006. Standard grade stainless-steel, which contains 
a typical 8% nickel, makes up 45% of global output of SS as compared with 50% 
to 60% in past years. Duplex grades, a mixture of ferritic and standard 
stainless steel, represent 1.5%.

03.03.2008  FERRITIC
STAINLESS STEEL PRICES AT RECORD LEVELS
 The rising cost of ferro chromeis pushing 
transaction prices for ferritic grades ever upwards.The MEPS 
North American and Asian average transaction values fortype 430 
cold rolled coil are at all time highs this month. Further
substantial increases are expected in all regions of the world in   
 March.
 EU prices have not reached the lofty figures
recorded in other regions because selling figures turned down in
mid 2007 as the whole market collapsed after the massive fall in
the price of nickel on the LME. A slight recovery is now in place   
 for all grades. The most spectacular improvement is in the ferritic
types. Significant alloy surcharge rises will occur next month. 
   Our research shows that substitution of austenitic steels by ferritics   
 is continuing, despite the price of nickel on the LME currently
standing at half its value in May last year. This is because customers  
  are not confident that the metal will remain at its existing low  
  level after speculation in previous years. Moreover, a rise in 
thecost of ferro chrome also affects the austenitic types in 
equalmeasure to the
 ferritics.
 It is now clear that the day of the non-nickel
stainless steel has come. These grades will take a greater share
of the market in years ahead. The LME nickel price hiatus through   
 2006 created a permanent change in the potential for ferritic grades.  
  Nickel producers have lost a substantial volume of future business
as a result. The mills are now investing in plant and equipment 
   to meet the growing demand. Customers continue to test for suitability.  
  

Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lalu apakah 
produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo begini antm  
inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless  steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007 
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Perkembangan harga2 (chart) utk nickel selama ini + bgm kondisi stock
(persediaannya) dapat dilihat :
 
http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/nickel_historical_large.html#5years
 
Stock Level cenderung meningkat2 terus sejak awal taon yl - sedangkan
harga2nya cenderung hanya side-aways/flat mulai Agustus 2007.Hal ini telah
kelihatan di LapKeu 2008 ini - meskipun scr nominal profit-nya gede, yaitu
US$139.6 Million (dalam IDR 1.3 T) - tapi faktanya growth-nya dalam
persentase turun signifikan sejumlah  - 38 %
 
 
 
 
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:29 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN
 
Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau
BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang
sunset

Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
begini antm  inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
new nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI,! Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always

Stainless steel production to grow further - but at a slower rate

21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects
that stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the
record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for
the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
now available.



ISSF releases new publications

21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has
published three new brochures during its 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto,
Japan. The brochures are: 
Book of New Applications 2007 
ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications.
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
the world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery
and transport are covered. 
The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels
contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
applications. 
The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for
stainless steel users, specifiers and producers. 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Rei
Apa itu pak Andi? (baru bangun tidur siap2 terbang) Tins?

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu 
Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas 
ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang sunset

Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a baru 
bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan 
mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo begini antm  inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007 
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage ISSF to promote 
ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for the main applications 
of stainless steel: a book “The Ferritic Solution” is now available.


  ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless 
Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its 11th Annual 
Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:   Book of New Applications 2007 
  ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications. 
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around the 
world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery and 
transport are covered. 
  The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
  Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and 
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic 
stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels 
contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many 
applications. 
  The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic 
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where they 
can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for 
stainless steel users, specifiers and producers. 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
TINS dari kmrn sih udah terbang..tinggal mo cointinuation buying (mudah2an.com)

Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apa itu pak Andi? 
(baru bangun tidur siap2 terbang) Tins?

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau 
BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang 
sunset

Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a baru 
bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan 
mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo begini antm  inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us  Always
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007 
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage ISSF to promote 
ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for the main applications 
of stainless steel: a book “The Ferritic Solution” is now available.


  ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless 
Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its 11th Annual 
Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:   Book of New Applications 2007 
  ISSF has published its second reference to new  stainless steel applications. 
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around the 
world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery and 
transport are covered. 
  The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
  Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and 
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic 
stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels 
contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many 
applications. 
  The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic 
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where they 
can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Rei
Jadi main di sektor apa yg pak ndi bilang aman?
  Memang sekarang masih terlalu banyak ketidakpastian di pasar ya pak, kalo 
saya sih mending nyingkir dulu dan melihat perkembangan pasar daily...tku!

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  TINS dari kmrn sih udah terbang..tinggal mo cointinuation buying 
(mudah2an.com)

Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Apa itu pak Andi? (baru bangun tidur siap2 
terbang) Tins?

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu 
semuanya...Kalau BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel 
memang sedang sunset

Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a baru 
bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan 
mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo begini antm  inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007 
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage ISSF to promote 
ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for the main applications 
of stainless steel: a book “The Ferritic Solution” is now available.


  ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless 
Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its 11th Annual 
Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:   Book of New Applications 2007 
  ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications. 
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around the 
world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery and 
transport are covered. 
  The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
  Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and 
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic 
stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels 
contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many 
applications. 
  The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic 
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where they 
can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for 
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2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Saham ini proses pembandarannya diduga sama dengan TINS...

Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Jadi main di sektor apa yg pak ndi bilang aman?
  Memang sekarang masih terlalu banyak ketidakpastian di pasar ya pak, kalo 
saya sih mending nyingkir dulu dan melihat perkembangan pasar daily...tku!

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  TINS dari kmrn sih udah terbang..tinggal mo cointinuation buying 
(mudah2an.com)

Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Apa itu pak Andi? (baru  bangun tidur siap2 
terbang) Tins?

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu 
semuanya...Kalau BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel 
memang sedang sunset

Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a baru 
bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan 
mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo begini antm  inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007 
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from  2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage ISSF to promote 
ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for the main applications 
of stainless steel: a book “The Ferritic Solution” is now available.


  ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless 
Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its 11th Annual 
Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:   Book of New Applications 2007 
  ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications. 
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around the 
world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery and 
transport are covered. 
  The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
   Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and 
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic 
stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels 
contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many 
applications. 
  The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic 
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where they 
can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Rei
Thank you pak atas penjelasannya, saya cuma nanya spy buat yg lain2 tahu juga 
jika mereka (sapa tahu) berpikir utk membeli saham antm atau inco 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  

Pasar akan mencari equilibrium baru mas (apa tuh ??)
Jadi walaupun banyak produsen SS (stainless steel) yang beralih membuat SS
dgn kandungan nickel yang rendah
Ini tetap membuat pasaran SS tetap diminati.

SS type 304 yang nickelnya 10% menjadi terlalu mahal,
Jadi pake SS yang kandungan nickel 1%, tetap aja nickel nya terpakai.
Ini membuat pasaran pelat SS jadi murah dan ahirnya banyak dipakai orang lagi
Jadi pakae time range LT mas

Gitu …. Jadi gak usah kuatir dgn penurunan harga saham ANTM dan INCO
Ibarat dulu pake innova yang boros terus ada saingan avanza yang lebih hemat
Tidak membuat orang jadi tidak bepergian, tapi hanya ganti moda transport
saja.

Getooo A3K


From: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:29 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]

Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu
semuanya...Kalau BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas
nickel memang sedang sunset

Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.

Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD
untuk new nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan
oleh Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless
steel lebih rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya
mengalami hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always
Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate
21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects
that stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the
record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005
and some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel,
encourage ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective
solution for the main applications of stainless steel: a book “The
Ferritic Solution” is now available.

ISSF releases new publications
21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has
published three new brochures during its 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto,
Japan. The brochures are:
Book of New Applications 2007
ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel
applications. The Book of New Applications contains more than 60
applications from around the world. Sectors such as building and
construction, industrial machinery and transport are covered.
The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins,
austenitic stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic
stainless steels contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective
alternative in many applications.
The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document
for stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik ilham dwi
Yg labanya naik sampai 200% aja harga sahamnya gak
naik2...
Aneh...



--- Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you pak atas penjelasannya, saya cuma nanya
 spy buat yg lain2 tahu juga jika mereka (sapa tahu)
 berpikir utk membeli saham antm atau inco 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 
 Pasar akan mencari equilibrium baru mas (apa tuh ??)
 Jadi walaupun banyak produsen SS (stainless steel)
 yang beralih membuat SS
 dgn kandungan nickel yang rendah
 Ini tetap membuat pasaran SS tetap diminati.
 
 SS type 304 yang nickelnya 10% menjadi terlalu
 mahal,
 Jadi pake SS yang kandungan nickel 1%, tetap aja
 nickel nya terpakai.
 Ini membuat pasaran pelat SS jadi murah dan ahirnya
 banyak dipakai orang lagi
 Jadi pakae time range LT mas
 
 Gitu …. Jadi gak usah kuatir dgn penurunan harga
 saham ANTM dan INCO
 Ibarat dulu pake innova yang boros terus ada saingan
 avanza yang lebih hemat
 Tidak membuat orang jadi tidak bepergian, tapi hanya
 ganti moda transport
 saja.
 
 Getooo A3K
 
 
 From: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Andi Wahyudi
 Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:29 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
 
 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God
 yang tahu
 semuanya...Kalau BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot
 he he..tapi yg jelas
 nickel memang sedang sunset
 
 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup
 industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.
 
 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti
 trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...
 
 Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.
 
 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan
 membelanjakan 105 juta USD
 untuk new nickel field di Siberia.
 
 Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan
 banyak digantikan
 oleh Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di
 ferritic stainless
 steel lebih rendah dibanding austenitic stainless
 steel.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel
 
 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel
 producer lainnya
 mengalami hal yang kurang lebih sama.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY
 
 May God Bless Us Always
 Stainless steel production to grow further – but at
 a slower rate
 21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless
 Steel Forum (ISSF) expects
 that stainless crude steel production in 2007 will
 be higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by
 recovery from 2005
 and some restocking. High raw material prices,
 especially for nickel,
 encourage ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an
 economic and effective
 solution for the main applications of stainless
 steel: a book “The
 Ferritic Solution” is now available.
 
 ISSF releases new publications
 21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless
 Steel Forum (ISSF) has
 published three new brochures during its 11th Annual
 Conference in Kyoto,
 Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications 2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new
 stainless steel
 applications. The Book of New Applications contains
 more than 60
 applications from around the world. Sectors such as
 building and
 construction, industrial machinery and transport are
 covered.
 The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to
 ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the
 mechanical and
 corrosion-resistance properties of their more
 expensive cousins,
 austenitic stainless steels. However, unlike the
 austenitics, ferritic
 stainless steels contain no nickel. This makes them
 a cost-effective
 alternative in many applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the
 properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and
 the applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial
 reference document
 for stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik James Arifin
padahal reserve INCO masih lama habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali

On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau
 BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang
 sunset

 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

 Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
 new nickel field di Siberia.

 Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
 Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih
 rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami
 hal yang kurang lebih sama.
 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always

 Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007
 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
 stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
 some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
 ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for
 the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
 now available.



 ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
 Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its
 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications 2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications.
 The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
 the world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery
 and transport are covered.
 The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
 corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
 stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels
 contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
 applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for
 stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Kalau nickel tidak sunset, kenapa INCO SS Pak? 

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: padahal reserve INCO masih lama 
habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali

On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi  wrote:






 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau
 BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang
 sunset

 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


 Rei  wrote:


 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

 Andi Wahyudi  wrote:


 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
 new nickel field di Siberia.

 Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
 Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih
 rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami
 hal yang kurang lebih sama.
 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always

 Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007
 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
 stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
 some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
 ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for
 the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
 now available.



 ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
 Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its
 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications 2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications.
 The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
 the world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery
 and transport are covered.
 The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
 corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
 stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels
 contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
 applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-26 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Kalau nickel tidak sunset, kenapa INCO dan ANTM SS Pak? 
Padahal ANTM masih 16 rebu waktu SS, TINS aja skrg udah 32 rebu

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: padahal reserve INCO masih lama 
habisnya kalau nickel sudah sunset
artinya industri manufacturing, LNG, etc sudah mulai menurun tapi kok
view saya kebalik yah. Ada yang salah kali

On 4/26/08, Andi Wahyudi  wrote:






 Q1 sih kmrn seperti itu Pak..tapi saya bukan God yang tahu semuanya...Kalau
 BD ngegoreng INCO ke atas ya repot he he..tapi yg jelas nickel memang sedang
 sunset

 Aman sih kita maen aja di sektor yang grup industrinya lagi nge-bul a.k.a
 baru bangun tidur n siap2 terbang.


 Rei  wrote:


 Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo
 begini antm  inco bisa payah dong...

 Andi Wahyudi  wrote:


 Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

 Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk
 new nickel field di Siberia.

 Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh
 Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih
 rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

 Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami
 hal yang kurang lebih sama.
 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always

 Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007
 Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that
 stainless crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the
 record-level of production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and
 some restocking. High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage
 ISSF to promote ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for
 the main applications of stainless steel: a book The Ferritic Solution is
 now available.



 ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International
 Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its
 11th Annual Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:
 Book of New Applications 2007
 ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications.
 The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around
 the world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery
 and transport are covered.
 The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels
 Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and
 corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic
 stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels
 contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many
 applications.
 The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic
 stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where
 they can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for
 stainless steel users, specifiers and producers.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-25 Terurut Topik Angelo Ferdinand
Koreksi mbah, labanya US$0.014 untuk Q1 kalau dikalikan 9200 = 129 = 130,-.
Sumber : detikfinance

2008/4/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

 Net profit 2006:
 - 43, 80, 124, 265

 Net profit 2007:
 - 227, 479, 265, 200

 Net profit 2008
 - 139 (siaran pers)

  



Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-25 Terurut Topik Gambler Bej
Kalo gitu nilai bagusnya di 4500 ya mbah kalau menggunakan tahun 2006
sebagai perbandingan.

1500an - 43

4500an - 139

2008 = 3x 2006 profitnya.

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN


 INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

 Net profit 2006:
 - 43, 80, 124, 265

 Net profit 2007:
 - 227, 479, 265, 200

 Net profit 2008
 - 139 (siaran pers)






Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-25 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

 May God Bless Us Always
Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007  
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage ISSF to promote 
ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for the main applications 
of stainless steel: a book “The Ferritic Solution” is now available.


ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007  Kyoto - The International Stainless 
Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its 11th Annual 
Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are: Book of New Applications 2007 
ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications. 
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around the 
world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery and 
transport are covered. 
The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and corrosion-resistance 
properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic stainless steels. 
However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels contain no nickel. 
This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many applications. 
The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic 
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where they 
can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for 
stainless steel users, specifiers and producers. 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Q1 2008 profit DOWN

2008-04-25 Terurut Topik Rei
Lalu apakah produsen2 besar nickel akan mengikuti trend ini pak Andi? Kalo 
begini antm  inco bisa payah dong... 

Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan.

Maret 2008 Norilsk Nickel mengumumkan akan membelanjakan 105 juta USD untuk new 
nickel field di Siberia.

Menurut laporan IISI, Austenitic stainles steel akan banyak digantikan oleh 
Ferritic stainless steel. Kandungan nickel di ferritic stainless steel lebih 
rendah dibanding austenitic stainless steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

Bukan cuma INCO LK Q1 2008 mengalami drop, nickel producer lainnya mengalami 
hal yang kurang lebih sama.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchivesid=avCNKlwNNdLY

May God Bless Us Always
  Stainless steel production to grow further – but at a slower rate21 May 2007 
Kyoto - The International Stainless Steel Forum (ISSF) expects that stainless 
crude steel production in 2007 will be higher than the record-level of 
production in 2006, mostly driven by recovery from 2005 and some restocking. 
High raw material prices, especially for nickel, encourage ISSF to promote 
ferritic grades as an economic and effective solution for the main applications 
of stainless steel: a book “The Ferritic Solution” is now available.


  ISSF releases new publications21 May 2007 Kyoto - The International Stainless 
Steel Forum (ISSF) has published three new brochures during its 11th Annual 
Conference in Kyoto, Japan. The brochures are:   Book of New Applications 2007 
  ISSF has published its second reference to new stainless steel applications. 
The Book of New Applications contains more than 60 applications from around the 
world. Sectors such as building and construction, industrial machinery and 
transport are covered. 
  The Ferritic Solution: The essential guide to ferritic stainless steels 
  Ferritic stainless steels share most of the mechanical and 
corrosion-resistance properties of their more expensive cousins, austenitic 
stainless steels. However, unlike the austenitics, ferritic stainless steels 
contain no nickel. This makes them a cost-effective alternative in many 
applications. 
  The Ferritic Solution provides an overview of the properties of ferritic 
stainless steels, the advantages of using them and the applications where they 
can be used. The Ferritic Solution is a crucial reference document for 
stainless steel users, specifiers and producers. 

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